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hi every1,
my 3 contract runs out next month and i am thinking about getting the MDA Compact III.
My question is about co-pilot that comes with the t-mobile UK bundle. I was wondering if was able to get hold of the installation cd's from somewhere ... can i install it on my empty memory card
are there any serial numbers or anything that i might need?
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just another question to add. anyone with the co-pilot bundle. i went to a t-mobile shop today to ask them about a similer question. worded differently tho lol. seem to have answered my question. the co-pilot bundle does come with original installation cds for you to re-install them on your mem card. ;-)
but the women said that the co-pilot bundle comes with an antenna that plugs into the back of the phone. now im wondering
1) is this really needed? bcoz i thought the GPS was in-built????
2) wot type of antenna would i need? and how much do they cost?
thanks,
Snoop
Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?
ansaar99 said:
Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?
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thats a good point you know. maybe she said that it comes with attenna because it would help boost the signal. bcoz my friend has a navman pda and he uses an external attenna to do just that.
it be interesting to know to excat box contents of the phone and phone with copilot bundle. can anyone fill us in please
thanks,
snoop
ansaar99 said:
Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?
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Sounds interesting.
Maybe they include an RDS antenna to get live traffic updates??
Can anyone confirm this?
hi guys,
regarding this external antenna. please read below. found it on this website http://htcphonestore.com/review.asp?itemMDL=HTC_P3300
GPS Navigation
One of the best features of the Artemis is the integrated GPS. With a built in GPS Sirf-Star III chipset, navigation was seamless. The unit comes bundled with TomTom 6, and included in your purchase is the ability to download one free city-map. Additionally, there is an external antenna port on the back of the unit which enables you to achieve better satellite reception. More on the GPS capabilities in Part II.
just need to find out what type it is. maybe some with the manual can have a read through and tell us. if under there accessories section they mention anything.
thanks,
snoop
found this description about a Bluetooth GPS antenna?
http://www.yourkindamobile.co.uk/upgrades2_orange.asp?Phone=2036&Network=T-Mobile
Includes Co-Pilot GPS navigation which gives you spoken and on-screen turn instructions, satellite positioning, address-level street map, ETA and distance remaining, detour around traffic and 2D or 3D display with night mode. Bluetooth GPS antenna included.
snoop85 said:
just need to find out what type it is. maybe some with the manual can have a read through and tell us. if under there accessories section they mention anything.
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If you really think you need an external aerial for the GPS unit in your device (which I doubt to be honest) have a search for the part number 36H00352-00M it transpires that the same aerial was supplied for the I-Mate PDA-n, you can purchase one from http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=129590 (at least I can improve the reception on my PDA-n now I know that! and I have found a use for the external GPS aerial that was supplied with my Arte) - Mike
To confirm guys...
I opened the box to an MDA III co-pilot and the package contains:
Software
Moulded Car Holder (Windscreen Sucker)
Car charger for MDA
No GPS antenna and no Bluetooth receiver. This product retails at 169.99 compared to 199.99 with the GPS bluetooth receiver (Vario, Vario 2 etc...)
treblechance said:
To confirm guys...
I opened the box to an MDA III co-pilot and the package contains:
Software
Moulded Car Holder (Windscreen Sucker)
Car charger for MDA
No GPS antenna and no Bluetooth receiver. This product retails at 169.99 compared to 199.99 with the GPS bluetooth receiver (Vario, Vario 2 etc...)
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wwwhoooo thanks treblechance. thanks for confirming, must mean the shop assisant meant that you can BUY one extra. like the one pointed out by mikealder. because i know a friend who has one of those navman pda's and he is using an external attenaa to boost the signal. and simply plugs in the back, similar place to what the shop assisstant showed me.
looks like i what need to buy the copilot bundle after all SAVING me a bundle of $$$ hehe
thanks everyone for the help.
If you have the hardware and only need the GPS software try using it first with the inbuilt GPS, don't go wasting money on the external GPS aerial, the receiver in the Artemis is very good without re-course to an external feed. If you have a car with Athermic coated glass you might experiance a signal drop but even so I would try it first and it should be fine with just the device on its own - Mike
ye good point mike. thats what some of my friends said. thanks
Manual
hey does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of the manual?
i thought someone posted somewhere on the forum. but i can seem to find it
snoop85 said:
hey does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of the manual?
i thought someone posted somewhere on the forum. but i can seem to find it
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Hi,
Try - http://www.europe.htc.com/support/training.html
TomTom on the MDA Compact III? Anyone used one?
Hi all,
I am in the process of getting tmobile mda iii compact without the bundled co-pilot but tmobile call centre said it wouldn’t work but I’m very taken with tom tom.
So I am seeking information from anyone that has actually pulled it off.
This is because I would like to know if there are any negatives involved and what.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx
mikolo said:
Hi all,
I am in the process of getting tmobile mda iii compact without the bundled co-pilot but tmobile call centre said it wouldn’t work but I’m very taken with tom tom.
So I am seeking information from anyone that has actually pulled it off.
This is because I would like to know if there are any negatives involved and what.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx
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hi,
i think they may be right. i tried getting co-pilot to work on my mda but wasnt having any of it. so i gave up in the end. i think the only way you can install it is using some kind of auto install file that is on the memory that is provided when you buy the bundle.
as for tom tom. i have managed to get that working just prefect. i tried it inside my house wasnt getting a very good signal. stepped outside...and hey presto 11 signals picked up. i havnt done full test of it i.e. driving from my house to another location. but it seemed to work fine when i did a small walk around my local area.
hope that helps.
regards,
snoop
i have a question about copilot's installation. Does anyone know where the license file is installed. I had copilot installed on one device and copied files onto another device thinking that would save me download time. Anyway now it keeps picking the licensing info from the previous device. I have tried uninstall and reinstall but that did not help. If someone could help me with resetting the licensing info so I can register the software with the new key. Thanks.
Hello to All
I have seen many people search for the answer to the question I have, does our MDA CIII have WLAN or not?
There is an extensive thread on that topic, with no real conclusion, so i thought i open a new one, and throw some new ideas and questions into the room.
First of all:
I own a Arte110 i was one of the first ones to get it in Austria, i bought it right when it hit T-mobile stores on the 02.11, back then the Austrian webpage advertised it has WLAN, the German webpage never claimed that, so when i was standing in the store i asked once more, and the guy said no WLAN, in that moment i didnt think much, since the device was very nice, and there was no alternative for me, since my other phones was stollen a couple of days before, and i was in a hurry to get a new mobile.
Well now i do miss WLAN, and i am trying everything to get to it
I checked the dutch page yesterday, it still says WLAN, can it be that T-mobile doesnt supply some of its biggest markets (German, Austria) without WLAN, but it does so in the Dutch market. It doesnt even make sense to buy two different pieces of HArdware when they order in masses.
SO how come we dont get WLAN and they do! And seemingly some dutch friends have confirmed their devices have WLAN. I am planing to confront T-mobile Austria on that and see what they say, did any one do that already?
Further i tried talking up HTC, but they didnt help much, told me to go talk to t-mobile.
Now a question to the technical guys around, being an Electronic Engineer myself, i am very interested in playing around to get this WLAN mystery solved, so i am in the search of following things:
a. Any one take one of these things appart?
b. Any way to get our hands on infromation concearing wireing, chipsets, and the inside of the device? I found this italian website which had a block diagram of the new HTC 4000-something model, it would be nice to have something like that for our MDA, would solve many questions.
c. What type of USB does our device have, is it client only or does it also support host? if so we would work out an external solution! That would be great if it would support host function, specialy for all other kind of applications.
d. Any idea where we could get such info from
Thanks to all
And dont give up until we have a prove that the Hardware for WLAN is missing in our devices!
The extensive thread you refer to has most of the answers to your questions, I think, on the penultimate page. The outfit who unlocked the phone said it wasn't an Artemis model (the United Kingdom MDAIII enquired about and similar to the German/Austrian I believe) but a Hero and it didn't have wireless lan.
They also said the Artemis and Hero looked cosmetically identical but were different inside...
I must admit that I find it strange that the Dutch went for the Artemis model and the others the Hero. You would have thought that the entire European operation would have made a bulk purchase.
well i have still no information on the USB?
Mtheory said:
Hello to All
I have seen many people search for the answer to the question I have, does our MDA CIII have WLAN or not?
There is an extensive thread on that topic, with no real conclusion, so i thought i open a new one, and throw some new ideas and questions into the room.
First of all:
I own a Arte110 i was one of the first ones to get it in Austria, i bought it right when it hit T-mobile stores on the 02.11, back then the Austrian webpage advertised it has WLAN, the German webpage never claimed that, so when i was standing in the store i asked once more, and the guy said no WLAN, in that moment i didnt think much, since the device was very nice, and there was no alternative for me, since my other phones was stollen a couple of days before, and i was in a hurry to get a new mobile.
Well now i do miss WLAN, and i am trying everything to get to it
I checked the dutch page yesterday, it still says WLAN, can it be that T-mobile doesnt supply some of its biggest markets (German, Austria) without WLAN, but it does so in the Dutch market. It doesnt even make sense to buy two different pieces of HArdware when they order in masses.
SO how come we dont get WLAN and they do! And seemingly some dutch friends have confirmed their devices have WLAN. I am planing to confront T-mobile Austria on that and see what they say, did any one do that already?
Further i tried talking up HTC, but they didnt help much, told me to go talk to t-mobile.
Now a question to the technical guys around, being an Electronic Engineer myself, i am very interested in playing around to get this WLAN mystery solved, so i am in the search of following things:
a. Any one take one of these things appart?
b. Any way to get our hands on infromation concearing wireing, chipsets, and the inside of the device? I found this italian website which had a block diagram of the new HTC 4000-something model, it would be nice to have something like that for our MDA, would solve many questions.
c. What type of USB does our device have, is it client only or does it also support host? if so we would work out an external solution! That would be great if it would support host function, specialy for all other kind of applications.
d. Any idea where we could get such info from
Thanks to all
And dont give up until we have a prove that the Hardware for WLAN is missing in our devices!
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Hehe, hello
I'm from austria too and did already much research but gave it up. There is some kind of proof that wifi is not built in. Great to see some support from austria . I suggest you ment that thread didn't you?
greets from vienna
Hi
Nice to see your replies. But i still havent seen any answer to my most important question:
IS THE USB ON THE MDAC III a full USB OR ONLY CLIENT? i have not seen an answer in any of the forums, thanks
Mtheory said:
Hi
Nice to see your replies. But i still havent seen any answer to my most important question:
IS THE USB ON THE MDAC III a full USB OR ONLY CLIENT? i have not seen an answer in any of the forums, thanks
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Afaik it's client only... though I'm not completely sure.
We should really find out, cuz if its a full functioning USB, one could try getting a WLAN to work on it externally.
I must say i still have hopes of having the hardware inside...these dutch people, why do they get WLAN? i dont understand. They should help us out with a ROM...it would be redicoulus if T-mobile only supplied them with WLAN (no offense i like holland, but still this gets me mad)
I will contact T-mobile tomorrow and have a word with them!
If the USB is only a client, how is hte antenna recognized via USB?
I don't think, that the antenna has to be recognized as a "Device"... It is just a cable, that is connected to the right Pins in the USB Connector. A normal FM Radio surely does not recognize the Antenna as a device, almost any cable can do the job if connected to the Antenne Input of the Radio....At least i'd say
ok explanation taken...i was hoping for a bit more hightec...but that goes too...(and is absolutly right).
So no one around her believes that the USB could also be a host?
The Omap850 can handle usb on-the-go. See here: http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...lateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
German USB-On-The-GO Description (german): http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/23696
We can also see that wlan a/b/g is on chip but wth is wiLink?! or mWLAN.
greets
THIS IS great, thanks...I was looking for a block diagramm...now lets look what the chip can do...
Thanks
Ok i figured what the WiLink is, and its sounds really good for us, since it seems to be part of the MDAC III architecture:
"WiLink™ 5.0 platform is the industry's first solution that integrates mobile WLAN (mWLAN), Bluetooth® and FM stereo audio all in a space-saving platform for mobile phones."
Sounds like the functionality of our MDAC III, only that Austria/German/UK doesnt have the GOD DAMN WLAN activated (i hate you dutch guys... )
SO now following question, if the WLAN is intergrated on the OMAP, it cannot be removed by HW...but only be deactivated via firmware. The question is now, does the OMAP need some co-processor to make use of WLAN, or only an antenna, now if it needs an antenna, then it could well be that Tmobile removed this Antenna!
I will do further technical research on this
it does seem to miss integrated WLAN: "54-Mbps WLAN interface" i think when they talk of interfaces, the only mean it supports some WLAN chip to work with it...
Hmm, you can see that that WiLink/mWLAN stuff is not on chip. It's some external circuit which possibly does not exist on our mdac3. Though... proove me wrong and we are best friends
Mtheory said:
it does seem to miss integrated WLAN: "54-Mbps WLAN interface" i think when they talk of interfaces, the only mean it supports some WLAN chip to work with it...
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Ahm, yes... I was 2 minutes too late... I btw already installed the wifi-driver from a dutch mdac3 and it didn't work. It is still possible that i did something wrong when doing this.
We need a Dutch ROM
Hi...
Don't know if I'm allowed, so if not: admin can remove my post, no prob...
I am looking for a BlueAngel device for testing with Linux installation etc...
Device may be in (heavily) used state, battery time more than 2 minutes is not necessary.
What need to be ok is: screen, touchscreen, keyboard, gsm radio...
Anyone want to sell an old (double) device for a small price, let me know!
Thanks!
Moved the thread out of WM6. See no problem with this request.
i have one for sale if you are interested. it is actually a double since i bought a new one.
bkortleven said:
Hi...
Don't know if I'm allowed, so if not: admin can remove my post, no prob...
I am looking for a BlueAngel device for testing with Linux installation etc...
Device may be in (heavily) used state, battery time more than 2 minutes is not necessary.
What need to be ok is: screen, touchscreen, keyboard, gsm radio...
Anyone want to sell an old (double) device for a small price, let me know!
Thanks!
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i want to sell
PM me if you have one for sale...
Let me know how much you want for it, what state it is in and where you live...
Thanks guys!
FS: Blue Angel
I have one for sale. It's branded T-Mobile MDA. The bluetooth function is not working but everything else is good, including battery. Very small nicks, and no scratches on screen (that I can see).
Currently running a stock T-Mobile UK 1.42 shipped ROM. I also tested it on WM6 and it ran it too but I went back to 2003SE.
Comes w/ USB + serial 2-in-1 cable (charging via USB or the DC jack on the cable).
Also comes w/ a cigarette lighter charger (third party).
I'm in Vancouver, Canada. Will ship out of country.
$175. + shipping.
[I do not have the docking station, nor the AC charger, or other except as listed above.]
Hi Buddy,
Let me know if u still need it. I have the Blue Angel with me with updated Windows 2006 and 1GB expanded memory as well. Please let me know if you are interested in buying. I can ship the same to you either from US or from India.
In the meantime, there's one coming to belgium from one of our US friends
Many thanks, and let's hope you get yours sold real soon...
Maybe an idea for a fixed post, or even a seperate topic?
Thanks again all for your quick responses
Bram
premkkumaar said:
I have the Blue Angel with me with updated Windows 2006 and 1GB expanded memory as well.
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1 gig? Are you talking about a gig of memory on board, or via a SD card?
if it's onboard, how the heck was that done?
Gents I just wan to collect some ideas or experiences on my issue. since few weeks my keyboard giving me troubles. Some of the keys are less responsive and need more pressure to type correctly. I am not sure whether it is the rubber membrane or the keypad. Anyone has such experience and any idea what can be done to fix it? Obviously I don't wan to spend 250-300 USD to buy complete set of Keyboard for my old Universal
Not That I Know What Causes It But I Too Would Like To.
Since Having My Brand New G4 Replaced With A Nearly New G4 Device, (Due To A Broken USB Port)
I Too Experience This But Only With The Number 6 Key. (Haven't Noticed Any Others Yet)
If Anyone Knows Why And If Its Fixable Please Let It Be Public Knowledge.
Regards,
OllieD
Uni Replacement keyboard,case source
Hi, my USB connector pulled out, so I have been searching for parts & accessories sources. This is just one of many I have found: NEW OEM FULL HOUSING CASE + KEYBOARD FOR I-MATE JASJAR $56.00 total http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160242894972&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006
I am a beginner JasJar owner/user, so most of that I read on this web site is greek to me, but interesting copy. Maybe I will learn something, or not? I love my JasJar and I am sure I am using a minimal of its capabilities. I have a 1gb card in use and an 8gb card it does not see, an Spanish Dictionary card it does not see or I cannot access. I am sure it needs to be upgrades from WM5 to WM6, but I am not proficient enought to do myself. After copying the correspondence there appears to be many versions of WM6 with varying drawbacks. I will continue to read ya'alls correspondence and input when I feel I can assist. Hugh
Hey guys. I have gotten alot from this website so I would like to give back. I own and operate a mobile phone repair shop and would like to extend my services to this forum. Most of you seem pretty techical so even if you just want the part (microphone, ear speaker, Loud speaker, LCD) I will provide it for you at a low cost plus shipping of course. I mostly deal with hardware issues so please don't PM me or post asking about software, I am a total noob when it comes to that!
Thanks again to all the rom builders and contributers who have helped make my phone awsome!
If you can source the vibrate motor for an HTC S710 I would be forever grateful. Where abouts are you located?
EDIT: I see you're in Phoenix.
Most of the parts I carry are for US released HTC phones but often they carry simular parts. If you can post a picture of what it looks like I'll see if I have a match.
I will upload a picture in a little bit, however here are the specifications from the HTC Vox Service Manual for the motor;
JT0406-30CSR1, JNTECH, Cylindrical, 3V, 100mA, 12000+/-3000 rpm, 60/-, 20degC, 11.2*5.1*5.8mm
The cylinder has J7D05 printed on it and has 2 prongs that make contact to the pad on the PCB. I've tried many different other motors but none of them physically fit in the spot. So if you have any motor rated to those specs and is smaller or equal to the dimensions above, I will take it.
Here are two pictures of it. They are quite large, so not inlined. Not my camera, one of those funky digital ones that I have no idea how to adjust the focus on.
http://i25.tinypic.com/20psxg3.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/22dcb4.jpg
I'll check my inventory tomorrow. The shop is closed for today, it being the 4th of July and all.
Ah yes. Thanks, I shall await your response in great excitement.
Happy Indie Day!
A friend of mine has an O2 XDA Orbit but the usb works for charging but not for the data link.
Is this fixable? and if so, do you perform the fixes !!!!
@pna
I had the same problem with my Dash/Excalibur. I had to turn off the USB charging feature in the settings and then the data worked fine. I just either turn it back on if I need to charge via USB on my PC and don't have a wall charger handy. Tell your friend to try that.
Edit:
Also Turn off Advanced Network Functionality to along with charging over USB.
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A friend of mine has an O2 XDA Orbit but the usb works for charging but not for the data link.
Is this fixable? and if so, do you perform the fixes !!!!
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If the pins in the socket look straight re-flow the solder on the mainboard or get someone to do it. It's fairly easy. New sockets are about $4 on fleabay but as there are multiple lines close together you do need skill to replace.
M.S
@h4waii
Sorry friend. I don't have one that looks like that by HTC. However the T-Mobile Sidekick 3 vibrator does look like it. If I had it here to test I would be able to look closer. Once again, sorry friend.
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@h4waii
Sorry friend. I don't have one that looks like that by HTC. However the T-Mobile Sidekick 3 vibrator does look like it. If I had it here to test I would be able to look closer. Once again, sorry friend.
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I do, however, stock them. pm me and I'll list it on eBay.I'm in the UK though so shipping will be dependant on where you are. Outside UK is £7.
M.S
Good, this is the point right? To help our fellow members. Thanks Mysterious Stranger.
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Good, this is the point right? To help our fellow members. Thanks Mysterious Stranger.
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Help if asked, yes. Spam to get sales, NO.
M.S
Anyway you can check out my thread here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405758
Might find it intresting.
htc touch cruise
One of the give aways in buying this product is CoPilot Live 7 with free city map. I choose Muscat in Oman in English but I can not activate it. I went to the dealer but he wants me to pay to activate it.
Planetneo said:
Hey guys. I have gotten alot from this website so I would like to give back. I own and operate a mobile phone repair shop and would like to extend my services to this forum. Most of you seem pretty techical so even if you just want the part (microphone, ear speaker, Loud speaker, LCD) I will provide it for you at a low cost plus shipping of course. I mostly deal with hardware issues so please don't PM me or post asking about software, I am a total noob when it comes to that!
Thanks again to all the rom builders and contributers who have helped make my phone awsome!
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Right on! I have been wanting to replace the metal bezel that goes around the front of the AT&T 8525 (U.S. HTC Hemes). Mine has gotten quite scratched and scuffed over the last year, and I would love to have it returned to it's original clean, shiny look.
Do you happen to carry this part by any chance? Or know of an affordable place to obtain one?
I get mine from a guy on ebay. I used my last 3 over the holiday weekend so I am out till I order some more on Monday. They are about $28 shipped. Link below....
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Hermes-Cing...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Planetneo said:
I get mine from a guy on ebay. I used my last 3 over the holiday weekend so I am out till I order some more on Monday. They are about $28 shipped. Link below....
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Hermes-Cing...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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If you need the full housing email Amit / Raki Computers and ask - they have them as well at not much more $ ( about $26 IIRC) if you ask although the parts they sell are used / stripped from BER phones so some have minor marks and it's pot luck.
M.S
edit - I emailed Amit @ Raki myself anyway and he's listed the full housings here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220254094906
better value IMO.
Yes. We've got software support and now hardware support. This thread needs to be stickied.