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Hi guys,
Just found this forum and it looks great. Anyhow, i'm the middle of buying my first ever phone/pda and have decided to go for the TMobile MDA III/xda iii.
I have one major issue that needs answering prior to buying it and hopefully someone here might be able to assist.
I drive a 320d sport touring 2004 model, this has the standard bmw business tape player but also has the Bluetooth Phone option installed by factory, currently it works like a dream with my Nokia 6310i.
So, my questions is, Does anyone know if the mda iii would work in my car.
I have tried many BMW forums including bmwland/e46fans etc etc and no one can give me a answer, i have also checked the X5 forum however its not listed on there list.
I hope someone can assist as its the only thing holding me back on buying the unit.
Thanks to all.
Roger
Well I would say to give it a go, there shouldnt be any reason why it wouldnt work. If it didn't work and you bought it from an o2 shop you always have 14 days return guarantee. I have a BMW 7 series but didnt go for the bluetooth option as I have the wired factory telephone kit fitted but just give it a go.
s1nn0n
No waY. The MDA III does not work reliably with BMW bluetooth. I've spend hours patching the darn thing. Sometimes it works, most times it doesnt. Somethings badly screwed up here.
stick the widcomm bluetooth drivers on the phone, I bet ur using the crappy microsoft bluetooth stack!
I had the Xda IIs working in an X5 with the standard BT kit, although it occasionally decides to disconnect. No such luck with the iDrive version of BMWs BT kit, pairs up but doesn't work at all. I can't really recommend it for use with a beamer, maybe after the first ROM update is released!
From previous posts on here I'd say the MDA version of the phone has even worse BT so definitely don't go there!
thanks for the reply guy's.
have decided to go for it anyway as i need somethng like a phone / pda.
Cheers
Anyone know if an RS232 cable is available for the Jasjar yet or have I got to use one of these awful RS232/USB convertors?
Regards
did you ever get a lead that worked ? I can't find one and I'm trying to work out if I can hack my old IPAQ one up. cheers
gooroo said:
Anyone know if an RS232 cable is available for the Jasjar yet or have I got to use one of these awful RS232/USB convertors?
Regards
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A converter isn't going to work. They all require a USB Host port.
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also interested into this old fashionned but necessary tool to console to routers for example.
so up for this topic
I am interested also.
I was thinking about this a while back though. I think the only way this is going to work really is through a bluetooth or IR adapter.
Obviously those would require external power. Doing it with an IR adapter should be relatively easy to program, something along the lines of a PIC 16F64 or 18F452 would be more than enough. However, would it be usable? When controlling a router I would like to use the keyboard. The IR points dirctly towards the user.
However, I have little experience in how BT works, so would not be able to even think on how that would work.
Gareth
coldpenguin said:
I am interested also.
I was thinking about this a while back though. I think the only way this is going to work really is through a bluetooth or IR adapter.
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Perhaps this might point you in the right direction...
http://home.tiscali.nl/~t_aalberts/index.htm
Its a guide to making a GPS IRDA but I'm sure it could be suitably modified.
Bluetooth to usb
How about this: http://www.neteon.net/cat.aspx?clvl=3&c1=1&c2=177&c3=107
It's a serial to Bluetooth dongle. I don't see any WM drivers but I would think that the bluetooth stack on the latest "cooked" ROMS would support serial host since that is what most bluetooth GPS receivers use.
If it wheren't for the $108 price tag I would grab one of these myself and see if it worked.
Maybe in a few weeks. If someone else gets a chance to try this one, please post here and let us know.
hi every1,
my 3 contract runs out next month and i am thinking about getting the MDA Compact III.
My question is about co-pilot that comes with the t-mobile UK bundle. I was wondering if was able to get hold of the installation cd's from somewhere ... can i install it on my empty memory card
are there any serial numbers or anything that i might need?
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just another question to add. anyone with the co-pilot bundle. i went to a t-mobile shop today to ask them about a similer question. worded differently tho lol. seem to have answered my question. the co-pilot bundle does come with original installation cds for you to re-install them on your mem card. ;-)
but the women said that the co-pilot bundle comes with an antenna that plugs into the back of the phone. now im wondering
1) is this really needed? bcoz i thought the GPS was in-built????
2) wot type of antenna would i need? and how much do they cost?
thanks,
Snoop
Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?
ansaar99 said:
Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?
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thats a good point you know. maybe she said that it comes with attenna because it would help boost the signal. bcoz my friend has a navman pda and he uses an external attenna to do just that.
it be interesting to know to excat box contents of the phone and phone with copilot bundle. can anyone fill us in please
thanks,
snoop
ansaar99 said:
Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?
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Sounds interesting.
Maybe they include an RDS antenna to get live traffic updates??
Can anyone confirm this?
hi guys,
regarding this external antenna. please read below. found it on this website http://htcphonestore.com/review.asp?itemMDL=HTC_P3300
GPS Navigation
One of the best features of the Artemis is the integrated GPS. With a built in GPS Sirf-Star III chipset, navigation was seamless. The unit comes bundled with TomTom 6, and included in your purchase is the ability to download one free city-map. Additionally, there is an external antenna port on the back of the unit which enables you to achieve better satellite reception. More on the GPS capabilities in Part II.
just need to find out what type it is. maybe some with the manual can have a read through and tell us. if under there accessories section they mention anything.
thanks,
snoop
found this description about a Bluetooth GPS antenna?
http://www.yourkindamobile.co.uk/upgrades2_orange.asp?Phone=2036&Network=T-Mobile
Includes Co-Pilot GPS navigation which gives you spoken and on-screen turn instructions, satellite positioning, address-level street map, ETA and distance remaining, detour around traffic and 2D or 3D display with night mode. Bluetooth GPS antenna included.
snoop85 said:
just need to find out what type it is. maybe some with the manual can have a read through and tell us. if under there accessories section they mention anything.
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If you really think you need an external aerial for the GPS unit in your device (which I doubt to be honest) have a search for the part number 36H00352-00M it transpires that the same aerial was supplied for the I-Mate PDA-n, you can purchase one from http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=129590 (at least I can improve the reception on my PDA-n now I know that! and I have found a use for the external GPS aerial that was supplied with my Arte) - Mike
To confirm guys...
I opened the box to an MDA III co-pilot and the package contains:
Software
Moulded Car Holder (Windscreen Sucker)
Car charger for MDA
No GPS antenna and no Bluetooth receiver. This product retails at 169.99 compared to 199.99 with the GPS bluetooth receiver (Vario, Vario 2 etc...)
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To confirm guys...
I opened the box to an MDA III co-pilot and the package contains:
Software
Moulded Car Holder (Windscreen Sucker)
Car charger for MDA
No GPS antenna and no Bluetooth receiver. This product retails at 169.99 compared to 199.99 with the GPS bluetooth receiver (Vario, Vario 2 etc...)
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wwwhoooo thanks treblechance. thanks for confirming, must mean the shop assisant meant that you can BUY one extra. like the one pointed out by mikealder. because i know a friend who has one of those navman pda's and he is using an external attenaa to boost the signal. and simply plugs in the back, similar place to what the shop assisstant showed me.
looks like i what need to buy the copilot bundle after all SAVING me a bundle of $$$ hehe
thanks everyone for the help.
If you have the hardware and only need the GPS software try using it first with the inbuilt GPS, don't go wasting money on the external GPS aerial, the receiver in the Artemis is very good without re-course to an external feed. If you have a car with Athermic coated glass you might experiance a signal drop but even so I would try it first and it should be fine with just the device on its own - Mike
ye good point mike. thats what some of my friends said. thanks
Manual
hey does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of the manual?
i thought someone posted somewhere on the forum. but i can seem to find it
snoop85 said:
hey does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of the manual?
i thought someone posted somewhere on the forum. but i can seem to find it
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Hi,
Try - http://www.europe.htc.com/support/training.html
TomTom on the MDA Compact III? Anyone used one?
Hi all,
I am in the process of getting tmobile mda iii compact without the bundled co-pilot but tmobile call centre said it wouldn’t work but I’m very taken with tom tom.
So I am seeking information from anyone that has actually pulled it off.
This is because I would like to know if there are any negatives involved and what.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx
mikolo said:
Hi all,
I am in the process of getting tmobile mda iii compact without the bundled co-pilot but tmobile call centre said it wouldn’t work but I’m very taken with tom tom.
So I am seeking information from anyone that has actually pulled it off.
This is because I would like to know if there are any negatives involved and what.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx
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hi,
i think they may be right. i tried getting co-pilot to work on my mda but wasnt having any of it. so i gave up in the end. i think the only way you can install it is using some kind of auto install file that is on the memory that is provided when you buy the bundle.
as for tom tom. i have managed to get that working just prefect. i tried it inside my house wasnt getting a very good signal. stepped outside...and hey presto 11 signals picked up. i havnt done full test of it i.e. driving from my house to another location. but it seemed to work fine when i did a small walk around my local area.
hope that helps.
regards,
snoop
i have a question about copilot's installation. Does anyone know where the license file is installed. I had copilot installed on one device and copied files onto another device thinking that would save me download time. Anyway now it keeps picking the licensing info from the previous device. I have tried uninstall and reinstall but that did not help. If someone could help me with resetting the licensing info so I can register the software with the new key. Thanks.
Is it possible to connect an external hard drive to the Touch Pro 2, even if it requires buying an extra dongle or something?
WatermelonSlim said:
Is it possible to connect an external hard drive to the Touch Pro 2, even if it requires buying an extra dongle or something?
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No, it is not possible.
I don't know, I wouldn't say a definate 'no', maybe more of a 'not at the moment' - but I'm afraid most probably unlikely as many experienced developers/cooks have moved from the TP2. I was very surprised that my old HTC Universal was capable of this (as in, the hardware supported it - it was working with android).
Possible? Maybe. Practical? Not likely.
Even if the hardware inside supports it then someone will have to invest the effort to make the software use that capability. That seems unlikely at this point in the product's life cycle but we can hope there's a TP2/Tilt2 zealot out there with the time and know how to accomplish a host mode driver.
So as cajunflavoredbob said (but in more words....) - nope, not possible.
If you're just trying to move data around then there are other ways to accomplish that....
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I don't know, I wouldn't say a definate 'no', maybe more of a 'not at the moment' - but I'm afraid most probably unlikely as many experienced developers/cooks have moved from the TP2. I was very surprised that my old HTC Universal was capable of this (as in, the hardware supported it - it was working with android).
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So it works on the HTC Universal? What all does it entail? Do you have to do a bunch of stuff to make it work or does it just work out of the box? Also, does it work in WinMo too or just Android on the Universal?
doodaa1 said:
Possible? Maybe. Practical? Not likely.
Even if the hardware inside supports it then someone will have to invest the effort to make the software use that capability. That seems unlikely at this point in the product's life cycle but we can hope there's a TP2/Tilt2 zealot out there with the time and know how to accomplish a host mode driver.
So as cajunflavoredbob said (but in more words....) - nope, not possible.
If you're just trying to move data around then there are other ways to accomplish that....
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Well what I am trying to do is find a way to play music from an external hard drive in my car. And easily take it from my car, to my motorhome when we go on a long road trip. The easiest way I can think of is to have a device like a laptop that will host the hard drive and play the music. The laptop's headphone output would then connect to my stereo's aux input. I would much rather use a phone though, so I am trying to find a phone that will do it.
WatermelonSlim said:
So it works on the HTC Universal? What all does it entail? Do you have to do a bunch of stuff to make it work or does it just work out of the box? Also, does it work in WinMo too or just Android on the Universal?
Well what I am trying to do is find a way to play music from an external hard drive in my car. And easily take it from my car, to my motorhome when we go on a long road trip. The easiest way I can think of is to have a device like a laptop that will host the hard drive and play the music. The laptop's headphone output would then connect to my stereo's aux input. I would much rather use a phone though, so I am trying to find a phone that will do it.
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Wow.... you must have one hell of a lot of music if it takes more than 16G (sdcard) to store it, but then I'm not that big of an MP3 guy. If it was me I think I'd just use a cheap netbook off craigslist powered with a small inverter, wouldn't cost a lot more than a phone and not that much bigger. Or maybe an iPod classic, they go up over 150G for a couple hundred bucks. You may want to try googling "carputer" too, might give you some ideas?
WatermelonSlim said:
So it works on the HTC Universal? What all does it entail? Do you have to do a bunch of stuff to make it work or does it just work out of the box? Also, does it work in WinMo too or just Android on the Universal?
Well what I am trying to do is find a way to play music from an external hard drive in my car. And easily take it from my car, to my motorhome when we go on a long road trip. The easiest way I can think of is to have a device like a laptop that will host the hard drive and play the music. The laptop's headphone output would then connect to my stereo's aux input. I would much rather use a phone though, so I am trying to find a phone that will do it.
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Basically, the Universal had the capability to begin with. There are no hardware drivers for the Rhodium to enable this function. This means they would need to be written from the ground up. If you know someone would could do this, then the community would be grateful, but as it stands, this isn't a function you will get from the Rhodium. As was suggested above me, an iPod classic with a 160GB hard drive is the most portable solution we could afford you.
As you may know the Galaxy Nexus sports a Broadcom BCM4330 which is capable of Bluetooth, Wifi, and FM tuning and transmitting. I hereby propose a bounty for a hardware/software modder to make these functionalities work. As of now the need for an internal antenna is a major hurdle for some people. I personally don't mind opening up my device and installing one as long as there are clear instructions on how to do so.
I am willing to donate $400 USD to a dev that can get either transmitting or receiving working
I think it is a neat idea.Good luck..I'm not the developer.
Does FM work with headphones?
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Your wanting to do this for transmitting purposes and not so you can listen to fm radio right? Because you can use TuneIn Radio for FM.
I also would like to see this because of several reasons. First, streaming apps need internet (obviously) and I don't have data. I run on prepaid and only use wifi at home and school to save money (I'm a student). Second, FM radio was the one thing that one of my friends required for a new phone. Obviously I want him to get the great Galaxy Nexus.
If anyone would be able to get this working with either an internal antenna, or (more ideally) using the headphone wires as an antenna, that would be great.
Hi,
Sorry if I did not clearly understand all,but maybe take a look at this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296&highlight=fmradio
But it seems it's not possible:
These devices will likely never be able to support FM with Spirit or any FM app:
- Google/Samsung Galaxy Nexus
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@DroidMahn:if you talk about the FM radio (listening).
That would definitely be awesome. I don't have an Aux port or a tape player in my car so I always wanted to be able to just tune my radio to a channel and hear music from it without plugging my phone into anything.
clarified my post xD
Very interesting, hopefully someone gets this working.
yami951 said:
That would definitely be awesome. I don't have an Aux port or a tape player in my car so I always wanted to be able to just tune my radio to a channel and hear music from it without plugging my phone into anything.
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I'm in the exact same boat...erm, crappy car. Badass phone, POS car.
The stock head unit is integrated with dashboard so its not easy to swap a new one.
Also willing to open up my Gnex and solder to test an antenna, just need an EE to tell me which leads....
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As you may know the Galaxy Nexus sports a Broadcom BCM4330 which is capable of Bluetooth, Wifi, and FM tuning and transmitting. I hereby propose a bounty for a hardware/software modder to make these functionalities work. As of now the need for an internal antenna is a major hurdle for some people. I personally don't mind opening up my device and installing one as long as there are clear instructions on how to do so.
I am willing to donate $400 USD to a dev that can get either transmitting or receiving working
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Wouldn't make more sense to buy a bluetooth FM headphone and an FM transmitter?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson...1DCM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1337776322&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Unive...L2/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1337776603&sr=8-13
Or something that have both functions like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Radio...OO/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1337776603&sr=8-11
$400?! You ARE such a generous gentleman.
I really hope this going to happen. I hate to use radio apps to listen to music due to my 2GB Highspeed Cap. FM receiver/transmitter feature is needed.
I'll throw in $40 to make it happen. I just want as many features as possible
I brought a wireless FM Transmitter for £10...I don't get it :/ All seems hassle for a few quid and a bit of shopping...
Lol
Ill sell you my droid x2 that has fm radio working in it for $400
From my nexus tappin the talk
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I've bought an FM-sender that plugs into the cigarette-lighter-output in the car, which connects to the phone via 3.5mm jack. The sender also has output for USB, which lets me charge the phone at the same time. I payed 150 NOK for that, which is about $30. Should be something like that in your american Wallmarts as well!
The phone is capale of transmission on the fm band by any developer so inclined to create it. This is the very essence of nexus class development. If your solution to the bounty on this thread is to suggest buying external hardware , you are really missing the point .
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android01 said:
The phone is capale of transmission on the fm band by any developer so inclined to create it. This is the very essence of nexus class development. If your solution to the bounty on this thread is to suggest buying external hardware , you are really missing the point .
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Don't think its the bounty anyone is interested in, just why the bother and hassle when external solutions exist at a fraction of the price? Very capable ones at that.
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killyouridols said:
Don't think its the bounty anyone is interested in, just why the bother and hassle when external solutions exist at a fraction of the price? Very capable ones at that.
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But the whole point of the thread is to unlock the full capability of the hardware we own.
Not to buy another product to do a job that in theory our phone can already do.
I have a feeling its a big job and next to near impossible to accomplish but I'm willing to throw some money into the pot if a dev gets this done.
Just to prove it can be done at least.
This kind of thing is why I love android and nexus, doing something that isn't supposed to be done.
nodstuff said:
But the whole point of the thread is to unlock the full capability of the hardware we own.
Not to buy another product to do a job that in theory our phone can already do.
I have a feeling its a big job and next to near impossible to accomplish but I'm willing to throw some money into the pot if a dev gets this done.
Just to prove it can be done at least.
This kind of thing is why I love android and nexus, doing something that isn't supposed to be done.
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Don't get me wrong, I love seeing happen that, by rights, shouldn't. That's the joy of Android. All I'm questioning and wondering, and not in a bad way just a quizical way, I'm assuming the op is throwing in $400 to encourage the development of the FM transmitter. If so, why a relatively large amount for a device that can be brought for a fraction of the price? Is there really a $390 benefit to have it built in?
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