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Hi
I'm looking at purchasing an XDA IIi from O2, both to use as a PDA, phone and for SatNav. It's likely that I'll go with TomTom and I already have a Bluetooth GPS receiver.
I've already got an O2 blue headset that works with my SonyEricsson T610 and I'll also be wanting to use that whilst in the car.
I have some questions that I hope some of you might be able to answer...
Is it possible to use both a bluetooth headset and bluetooth GPS at the same time?
Does the XDA IIi support the O2 blue as the SE T610 does, i.e. I press the button and say the contact I want to call and then the phone (home, mobile etc).?
Thanks for any help!
GWG
Hi
I have the Jabra BT 200 headset and the Leadtek 9537 GPS unit. They both work fine at the same time on my Xda IIi.
I was checking the GPS using Pocket Streets (have not re-installed Tom Tom yet but I do not envisage a problem)
The BT setup seems better on the IIi, there wasn't any messing around with the COM port settings like there was with the Xda II.
If you mean the fonix VoiceDial software that comes with it, then yes, it does work that way.
On the whole, I am pleased with the IIi (I had the II for a year), the camera is flakey but I can live with that.
MarkySan...
Thanks for that... Looks like it'll do what I'm after
I might then have to become a regular on these forums!
Cheers
GWG
Be warned, if you mean the o2 CLIP blue headset (made by iTech), I also have it and have been unable to get it working. (Why oh why can I not have the old stack from the xda2 as that worked perfectly with headset profile)
At one point I was briefly able to get it installed as a handsfree device but it then stopped working. Before I got rid of my xda2 I tried re-pairing the devices and it worked great first time. Other BT headsets I had access to worked fine.
Does anyone else have this headset and an xda2i? I've posted about this before but got absolutely no feedback whatsoever. Could anyone tell me if they're using a clip style headset (not the ones that hook round your ear) with the 2i...how much it cost and what make etc. I may have to bite the bullet, sell the o2 headset and buy another one.
Cheers
Anthony
2 BT devices simultaneously on XDA II
This is an interesting problem. I've got an XDA II, a leadtek BT gps receiver and a nokia handsfree BT carkit, plus Tom Tom.
I haven't got them all working at once yet and have been told there is a problem getting the handsfree to work anyway.
This was from a so called reputable high st mobile phone chain (who also said that only one BT device could be connected at once).
Any help or advice appreciated....
David
Well, I got my XDA IIi and very nice it is too.. this is my first foray into the world of PDA so I've nothing to compare too, so I'm very pleased
I've twinned it with my O2 blue headset and it works fine.
Also got TomTom navigator and a bluetooth GPS (although you still need a cable for power across the dashboard! Doh!).
They both work together, although there does seem to be some strangeness when they're both on:
1. The GPS sometimes drifts off... although this is based on a 15 minute drive into Town only
2. When on a call, the GPS signal seems to go completely and TomTom doesn't know where I am!
I do have a question about WiFi and MMS if anyone could help...
I have a WLAN at home, whihc the XDA IIi seems to connect to fine. However, when I am connected to it, I cannot send or receive MMS messages.. I'm sure it's something to do with this 'Internet' or 'Work' stuff, but this is all rather confusing. Has anyone written an idiots guide to all these strange settings?
Thanks!
ive used it all week on calls and even had the voice through my jabra 250 gps stayed on all the time it was fine the only problem i had was i couldnt get gprs without a softreset
Alix, are you saying you got the Tom Tom voice directions through the Jabra?
If so, I'm off to get the i!
Firstly is this forum ONLY for developers?
Because you will quickly discover that I am not a developer but a confused user and I was hoping that I could get some advice here?
Anyway I have a Bluetooth headset and was considering getting TomTomGo but also wondered if the headset and a BT GPSr would work together.
Also does anyone know if we will ever get voice dialling working on MobilePPC? I had a brief discussion with someone at Fonix who said that "Microsoft does not expose the necessary functions to third party software developers like Fonix".
Actually, now I've been using it for a while, it seems the reason Tom Tom drifted was because of a loss of signal.
Using the BT headset and Tom Tom with the BT GPS together is fine.
What is annoying though is the fact that the Phone App pops up in front of Tom Tom and doesn't go away when the call is complete.
Also, when touching the button on the headset to open the connection with the phone, it doesn't automatically start the Voice dial, you still have to reach across and fumble about looking for the button on the side. Has anyone got any ideas if it's possible?
That being said, the voice dial works OK.. not brilliant, and the voice that tells me what it thinks I've said is rather disappointing.. I want to keep telling it to 'Please speak more clearly' !
And I too can hear the Tom Tom voice prompts through the BT headset when the conection is open, although I prefer not to.
See my note re what the Fonix guy said above.
aRGybaRGy said:
Well, I got my XDA IIi and very nice it is too.. this is my first foray into the world of PDA so I've nothing to compare too, so I'm very pleased
I've twinned it with my O2 blue headset and it works fine.
Also got TomTom navigator and a bluetooth GPS (although you still need a cable for power across the dashboard! Doh!).
They both work together, although there does seem to be some strangeness when they're both on:
1. The GPS sometimes drifts off... although this is based on a 15 minute drive into Town only
2. When on a call, the GPS signal seems to go completely and TomTom doesn't know where I am!
I do have a question about WiFi and MMS if anyone could help...
I have a WLAN at home, whihc the XDA IIi seems to connect to fine. However, when I am connected to it, I cannot send or receive MMS messages.. I'm sure it's something to do with this 'Internet' or 'Work' stuff, but this is all rather confusing. Has anyone written an idiots guide to all these strange settings?
Thanks!
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You can ONLY connect to MMS via the O2 GPRS network. Since your WIFI is outside their network, and is somebody elses, they won't let you login to their servers to send. All the carriers work this way - it's how they charge!
Hi,
I have a XDAIIi, Nokia car kit and TomTom 3 bluetooth. I have been trying to connect my phone to the car kit using bluetooth. Unfortunately it will only connect for phone calls. Does anyone knows how to permanently connect the phone using a different profile, so that I can listen to music and voice instruction of my TomTom using the car audio system? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Reda
Hi,
I have a XDAIIi, Nokia car kit and TomTom 3 bluetooth. I have been trying to connect my phone to the car kit using bluetooth. Unfortunately it will only connect for phone calls. Does anyone knows how to permanently connect the phone using a different profile, so that I can listen to music and voice instruction of my TomTom using the car audio system? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Reda
All I can help you with is that using my Jabra I press the call end button on the headset and the sound for my Tom Tom and MP3s comes through the headset.
Hope this helps.
Thanks mindracing. Do you know what services/profile your jabra return when you enquire it?
KR,
Reda
It shows up as Hands Free connection to Jabra 250.
Status just shows Jabra 250/Audio Gateway.
If you know where else to look just ask.
Thanks mindracing. yesterday I tried every possible combination but it seems I cannot stream my music and Tomtom instruction to the car kit.
Thanks anyway.
KR
Reda
just a note on this. I have had a jabra bt205 working with a QStarz BT-800 gps, it works ok BUT when i changed from the jabra to a stereo headset it workd ok too but only on the crap audio quality. I installed the cab file for A2DP support. now i have really good audio but as soon as i try to connect the gps the audio goes all choppy and eventualy cuts out.
It is of my limited opinion that you cant run A2DP and a bluetooth GPS because of the bandwidth (data transfer) available. Ive yet to see if i can get tomtom running with the wired gps and A2DP quality headset.
Think ill be goin back to wired headset for on the bike so i can have music, tomtom and calls... just need to find someone on here who has got a voice dial prog to run from the green call button on the wired headset.
GPS and BT Headset on XDA II
Anton.Valleyman said:
Does anyone else have this headset and an xda2i? I've posted about this before but got absolutely no feedback whatsoever. Could anyone tell me if they're using a clip style headset (not the ones that hook round your ear) with the 2i...how much it cost and what make etc. I may have to bite the bullet, sell the o2 headset and buy another one.
Cheers
Anthony
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I use the MS BT stack with my Blue Ant BT earpiece and the Broadcom BT stack with a BTGPS74R receiver (aka Holox BT-321). They both work well individually, but not together. Another post made the point about com port issues ... well yes, I use the Broadcom BT Manager for this purpose, but the XDA II does not pair with the Blue Ant, even with TomTom 6 OFF. It shows up but is not really paired correctly.
Perhaps there is a simple answer ... if so, I am sure someone will advise me.
OK here's a strange one. Orange SPV M2000 with Navman Smart ST V3 amd a Holux GPS cradle (which uses the com port on bottom of the phone so its hard wired).
Since installing I have been through a process of elimination to find out why the software reports NO GPS DATA occasionally, especially when it had to do anything that involves loading something, i.e. a speedcam warning or voice command approaching a roundabout. Tried the lot. Disabling ports/activesync etc.
Then one day it dawned on me that it wasn't happening on a long drive North from London. The only thing that was different was I didn't have the headset plugged in!
I've tested this over the last few weeks or so, and yes, headset plugged in means loss of data from the GPS intermittently.
I installed TOM TOM 5 from a friend and low and behold it seems to be doing the same. In TOM TOM you get the signal bars at the right and they go to zero every couple of minutes then spring back up. So its not software specific.
I would have thought the supplied headset was just a good old-fashioned 'feed to the speaker or feed to the earpiece' hard connection but it would appear not to be so.
So the question is, what is the Blue Angel doing when the headset is plugged in that it isn't doing when its not?!!!
....... tumbleweed rolls by........ signs creak...... saloon doors swing......
OK, ....I know, ...I know, ....if no one has posted it probably means no one knows the answer So I'll ask, does anyone use their Blue Angel with Navman SmartST V3 who could try this with the headphones to see if its a one off or a real issue?
As a test I installed TomTom Navigator and it does the same thing.
Any thoughts appreciated.
OK guys. I know I can't force a response so I'll post findings to date. For one reason or another, I have used Navman Smart ST V3 (now returned) a 'borrowed' version of Tom Tom navigator 5 and, in an effort to remain 'legit' a version of Destinator PN. All these exhibit the same problem so I can only presume that there is a hardware issue with the Blue Angel and my GPS port (port 1). Does anyone have a clue what the BA does when you plug in the headset that could cause such a problem or pehaps even a fix?
I have an XDA IIs with TomTom 5 and a wired GPS unit.
It doesn't exhibit this fault.
The headset (wired) works just fine. I have disabled BlueTooth to get reliable telephone performance, so I can't tell what that would work like.
HTH
Steve
Hi - This question may of already been answered but i couldn't see it in any forum.
I have an xda2i and i have paired a fortuna bluetooth GPS Clip On receiver to it. Once connected the blue light flashes on the gps for about 30 secs to a minute and then the pairing drops, i then have to connect again. If i wish to use tom tom with it then this will be no good. Has anyone else seen this before? Any possible solutions.
I've upgraded to the very latest xda2i rom, the dropout happens if tom tom is installed or not.
Thanks in advance.
jase
Hi Guys
I have been testing out some gps sat navs for work...tested with holux bt gps
So far I have the following which are compatible not compatible.
Destinator... works fine, however will sometimes struggle to pick up signal and requires a reset.. Otherwise all other functionality works great. Sometimes freezes when in 3d mode. (Most of these were true for wm5
Igo Myway plus- Will install on wm6(eventually) however seems to have a memory leak that causes it to slow down to nothing.... Very impressive gps sat nav on wm5. Better than most of the others I tried...
Will add more when test the other models.....
If anyone else can update me with thier info / experiences, please go ahead.
The Garmin Mobile 20 (GPS 20SM) works fine with both Windows Mobile 5 and 6. It is a Bluetooth GPS that supports using Bluetooth for receiving GPS information, and for the speakerphone, but for some reason insists on using the external speaker of the phone for navigation directions. (Or so it seems, I didn't have it long enough to do full testing).
The one problem that it seems to have (at least my unit does - I am awaiting a RMA replacement) is that it will not charge my Cingular 8525, unless I perform a soft-reset after connecting the mini-USB connector. I am hoping that it is a problem with the particular unit that I had, as I really like the Garmin products. (I suspect that it may be an issue with the product itself though, as it will charge a T-Mobile SDA, as well as an old Nokia phone not capable of Bluetooth. The 8525 does charge flawlessly when connected to a PC via mini-USB, or the supplied AC adapter, so I'm sure that it's not a problem with the phone).
-- Joe
Edit: After re-reading this, it appears you're using a generic GPS and evaluating software that works with said unit. The Garmin software pretty much only works with the Garmin units as far as I can tell, so it might not be an appropriate solution for you.
TomTom works flawlessly.
Currently i'm on v6.03 but i used 2 previous versions on WM6 with no problems.
Side note, i don't know if its because of v6.03, or WM6 but this version takes a little longer to acquire a valid GPS signal when initially turned on.
MioMap 3.2, TomTom 6.3 & Destinator 6.2 work flawlessly for me...
Destinator still has the tedious lock up issues... other then that MioMap is the best...
walshieau said:
MioMap 3.2, TomTom 6.3 & Destinator 6.2 work flawlessly for me...
Destinator still has the tedious lock up issues... other then that MioMap is the best...
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does Miomap have voice commands, or just on screen instructions only? Do they make maps for USA?
marscandybars said:
does Miomap have voice commands, or just on screen instructions only? Do they make maps for USA?
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Both quests = Positive.
Can any body tell me the best 6.1 cab to use tom tom on have trouble with bluetooth at the moment wont stay paired up.
Will consider using a 6.0 cab if this is the only way.
is there a fix
thank you
Had no problems with either Farias R-32 versions, and Schaps was fine too.
i found TomTom pretty good with pairing and finding bluetooth signals.
TNT 19999
Hy...
no problem with this rom.... i hope this notice can help you.....
If you need some other information cantact me!!!
Bye!!
there must be another problem, mabe with your bt-gps. Been flashing about 7 different 6.0 and 6.1 roms's the last few weeks and none of them heve instable bluetooth gps pairing and using.
i'm using a bt-gps and bt-stereo headset intensive together. listening to mp3, on the same time tomtom is telling directions, while on the background pushmail is bringing me new mail that i can read at the same time, being interrupted for incoming sms.
on top of that all an incoming phone call on my bt-headset will work, just as using a voice command to dial a number myself. and the mp3 player automaticaly pauses and restarts at the end of the phonecall.
tomtom keeps working.
just when ending a phonecall sometime the mp3 sound goes to the pda speaker instead of the headset.
Pays 6.1 ROM works with tt6 and bt.
My hermes kept droping out with TomTomon WM5 all the time, but since I switched to WM6 i never had a single drop.
For me WM5 > WM6 stopped all TomTom problems I had
l3it3r said:
Pays 6.1 ROM works with tt6 and bt.
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Better late the never: Correct
photoscubaman said:
Can any body tell me the best 6.1 cab to use tom tom on have trouble with bluetooth at the moment wont stay paired up.
Will consider using a 6.0 cab if this is the only way.
is there a fix
thank you
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hi Photoscuba, i have the exact same problems
First it wont pair properly (says that the key is incorrect).
Its there in the Bluetooth device list, so i open a com port for it then run my gps software, goto detect GPS but then i keep getting GPS reciver wants to pair with you message, as soon as i can answer yes or no, another screen will pop up saying the same
i have asked in several other threads if anyone else is having the same issues, but everyone elses seem fine.
i did read some where about all wm6.1 rom having problems with pairing when using the pass code 0000 (something along the lines of it sending a NULL or a single 0), but i cant find now. ill keep looking for it maybe someone has over come this, on a thread on XDA.
i use a HOLUX GPSlim240 receiver and it works flawlessly with wm6's
im using K's 1.3 at the mo
All these ROMS worked for me
I like to test new ROM and play around a lot.
I have tested Tom Tom 6 and my Bluetooth GPS on the following WM 6.1 ROM all worked.
Below are the ROM in the order i used them.
FARIA-R-32-CLEAN
TNT.19199_Professional_Hermes
CRCs_PHKv12r10
Binky11'sv3_3 - Great Clean ROM and i loved S2U2
PDACorner.V10 - New ROM i am testing right now
What map software and GPS units are everyone using?
maybe theres a incompatibilty problem with certain makes of GPS and wm6.1
im using destinator 7 and igo6 with a holux 240 GPSlim
crusti said:
What map software and GPS units are everyone using?
maybe theres a incompatibilty problem with certain makes of GPS and wm6.1
im using destinator 7 and igo6 with a holux 240 GPSlim
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Considering they are talking about Tomtom, I assume thats the software they are using....
yea, lol, shoulda seen that coming
but the problem seems to be the gps unit connecting or staying paired to the phone, so if there a list of bluetooth gps units that are working fine with wm6.1 then maybe see why some units wont connect
It all works fine on all the WM6's, so the change is in how wm6.1 handles it as far as i can work out
if theres a list of workin and non working GPS's then maybe i could see what the problem is