Recommended Bluetooth Headsets - General Accessories

Hi folks,
First post here, I've had a XDA IIs (Blue Angel) for about a year (before that an XDA / Wallaby).
I'm looking for some advice concerning bluetooth headsets, I a regular one for general in-car call making and receiving.
Two things I need advice on really, which function better / worse with a XDA IIs (Blue Angel), I have the current revision of Roms installed from O2. Functionality = with regard to pairing, audio quality etc.
My key thing is Audio clarity and volume here, battery life isnt as important as use wont be that high, and additional functionality e.g caller ID displays arnt needed as my phone is mounted on my dash anyway
So what would people recommend? Suggestions please!
Sorry if this has been asked in the past but I've not had much look finding definative results for my situation from searching old posts.
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I use a Jabra BT200.

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Qtek 9090 Audio in phone calling is very Bad.

hello with my Qtek
when i am in Call (receive or send) and
when i no speak the micro cut off and return to on when i re-speak !
but this system is not not very efficient and somme people
complain to me...
i have search option of energy save microphone or other and
i found nothing ...
you have a idea ??
a another french user of Qtek 9090 have the same problem...
start/settings/system -> microphone AGC, turn it off so that it doesn't change the microphone sensitivity.
thanks but no change with AGC settings
the AGC settings is for voice note not for telephony...
On my company we have all 4 devices with bad microphone. Everyone has to use a BT-HF. We are using Qtek 9090.
This is actually a network setting and nothing you can control. The network simply disconnects you when it thinks you are not saying anything. Here in the UK the networks do teh same thing but due to many complaints they now replace the silence you hear with white noise so it sounds like you are still connected.
R
According to the swedish distributor Brightpoint a fix for Bluetooth and microphone quality is soon to be released. All of the 9090s we have experience the same problems, bt stack and audio quality. Even had one that claimed that the license for the bt stack had expired :shock:
This is not only a network setting. When using HF the sound quality is great.
Anonymous said:
This is actually a network setting and nothing you can control. The network simply disconnects you when it thinks you are not saying anything. Here in the UK the networks do teh same thing but due to many complaints they now replace the silence you hear with white noise so it sounds like you are still connected.
R
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Sjugge, great for you :wink: For me HF quality is also bad and its not the hf that is defective :? My agc is disabled aswell...
Yes the Qtek 9090 have a microphone problem, is not the network is the Qtek.
I am in france on the SFR network, and the opérator not cut the sound in silence, the operator doesn't cut the sound, all is in continuous with all telephones except the Qtek
The micro has an intelligent system to improve the sound and saved the batteries I think. It would be necessary to cut it!!
i call the oficial Qtek repair service but...
the boss I say... You have ??? a 9090 ??? whaooo
not have info, not have doc...
I saw it in photo but I have touch it never !
i am make test with Bluetooth headset and sound in phone call is OK.
its just the internal microphone mode or heaset with cord...
have a problem with microphone level automatic ajustment...
for the moment, the Bluetooth headset is obligatory to correct call...
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I recently bought an i-mate pda2k. The quality of the GSM is so low I am thinking about having to revert back to my Nokia for business calls! Microphone is intermittent, and sometimes inaudible. The signal is also sporadic, cutting calls for no apparent reason. I get same results with AGC on or off.
yes harry_mb !!
we are a lot
I have write to this has HTC but he didn't even answer to me.
HTC No have software or rom support !! just a repair harsware house.
it is my first Qtek
but especially my last,
more I would never buy a constructor's product that doesn't exist!!
I have experienced the same problem with i-Mate PDA2K here, in Dubai-UAE as well!
The first one that I bought some 40 days ago had a real miserable microphone.. so they replaced it for me... I am still experiencing the same problem of those " slience periods " while I am talking, which makes it for other people almost difficult to hear everything I say.
That was one thing.. the other problem is that the voice quality is really bad, everyone complains to me that I sound very far, i.e. my voice is too low ... when using BT, everything is fine !
When I use my XDA II with its standard wired hands-free kit nearly everyone I phone complains that the voice volume is too low. The Microphone AGC setting in "Settings" makes no difference. It's only a simple level control that needs to be tweaked and is nothing whatsoever to do with the network. Does anyone know of any software tweak/fix available out there ? (XDA has the new Nov 2004 Rom pack).
chosl said:
Even had one that claimed that the license for the bt stack had expired :shock:
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Now thats one I keep seeing on my O2 XDA IIs !! Does not prevent BT from working/starting though - suspect its a MessageBox() left in by the programmers by mistake.
Nigel
MY call quality is terrible. Fine on my end, but *really bad* on the other end. Sounds as if, like others have said, i was 5 feet from the microphone. How is it that one can pay so much more for a phone and have problems like this???
same here
Yes - another XDA 2s user with the microphone problem. Everyone I speak to asks me to speakup. Would love a fix for this
Just got off the phone with the XDA data support people - they suggest a hard reset ;-)
Quality
me again
i've just come across a posting by psuter. He suggests holding the phone in the other hand and it only blo*dy works ! The mic for the phone seems to be near the reset pin hole so i've possibly been blocking it with my hand. Making an effort to speak directly into the mic hole certainly helps.
The XDA 2 didn't have this problem because the mic hole was next to the navigation disc.
chosl said:
....Even had one that claimed that the license for the bt stack had expired :shock:
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As of today I have the same problem. I have installed upgrade Bluetooth 3500...Can you tell me how to solve the license problem?

Several serious problems with Qtek 9090

I'm having several problems with my Qtek 9090
There's a rather loud constant high-pitched noise comming from the screen whenever it is turned on (which is when the device is on!). At first I though it was comming from the speaker, but the screen is definitely the source of the noise. It doesn't matter if the backlight is on or off.
People can't hear what I say when using the phone - it makes no difference whether I use the included headphones or just speak directly into the microphone.
I haven't been able to find a BT headset that works with it. They all have the same problem; The sound scratch so much they're unusable. I tried 3 different brands that all works well with my 2020!
The GSM link often "falls out" - even though there's plenty of link the phone doesn't work (nothing happens when I try to call someone). A soft reset solves this problem!
As you can see, I can hardly use the device as a phone at all I've had the device replaced once, but all the problems persists on the replacement.
Does anyone have similar problems?
1. No, don't have this problem. Strange that it happened on the replacement too.
2. Yes.
3. I have just ordered a jabra headset in the hope it will fix problem#2.
4. Yes.
These problems with GSM are a real headache. One of the primary reasons for buying the PDA2k was to consolidate my mobile into one device. I have seen other people experiencing such problems but from what I could gather, voice over BT worked much better. Have you updated the ROM since you bought it? I should know the answer to 3 today, if DHL delivers, and I can tell you I will not be a happy man if the answer is Yes!
Try a Motorola HS810 headset... works fine for me.
harry_mb said:
1. No, don't have this problem. Strange that it happened on the replacement too.
2. Yes.
3. I have just ordered a jabra headset in the hope it will fix problem#2.
4. Yes.
These problems with GSM are a real headache. One of the primary reasons for buying the PDA2k was to consolidate my mobile into one device. I have seen other people experiencing such problems but from what I could gather, voice over BT worked much better. Have you updated the ROM since you bought it? I should know the answer to 3 today, if DHL delivers, and I can tell you I will not be a happy man if the answer is Yes!
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I've already tried Jabra Freespeak 250, which didn't work for me
No I haven't updated the ROM as I've been told by the supplier that no new version is available yet!
outz said:
Try a Motorola HS810 headset... works fine for me.
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I also tried both a Motorola and a SonyEricsson BT headset, but I don't remember the specific models - they both scratched immensely
i use SE 60 and it works ok
As you said, the Jabra250 is pretty much unusable!
Crackling is not constant but goes in waves, even though I do not move.
Am at a bit of a loss what to do now... the device is great apart from this.
>> People can't hear what I say when using the phone - it makes no difference whether I use the included headphones or just speak directly into the microphone
yes PBT read my other post
I have the same problem!!
it is scandalous to sel an device with this big defect!!
Sony HBH-660 works good for me.
People say that they can't hear me when I use the handset, but I don't have any crackling, etc with the headset and voice is clear. You just never know if the headset is going to connect when the phone rings though.
sound from screen
there's a rather loud constant high-pitched noise comming from the screen whenever it is turned on (which is when the device is on!). At first I though it was comming from the speaker, but the screen is definitely the source of the noise. It doesn't matter if the backlight is on or off
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I have this problem also, I was told to use the new rom but this has made no difference, Please let me know if you have found a solution
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Guys,
the hissing coming from the screen is a power supply problem. keep swapping phones until it goes away! I used to build switching power supply and the hissing (in a system designed to operate well above 20kHz) is only able to be heared when unstable, inductor core or cap is broken. The hissing is very 'not normal'.
It appears that the Q9090 is standing out as having more problems than the MDAIII, one is the mic volume, most of the other phones are not complaining about this so there may be something with they way the Q9090 are updated or shipped.
With the Jabra 250, don't forget to pair it pressing BOTH the volume and phone button on the headset on discovery with the 9090.(On bonding, turn off headset, turn on again pressing both buttons)
Funny thing is, I had the cracking also. I deleted the headset in BT manager and paired it again as described above. Now it works ok.
Hi,
I bought a Qtek 9090 a few days ago and I also have the same problem with volume level. People can't hear me when speaking, either with the headset or base microphone.
Using a different headset doesn't help (that's even worse sometimes) but I didn't try a BT heaset (and I don't want to as it would raise potential connection problems). I'm going to contact Qtek for support on this...
Pierre
I too am having problems with the Jabra 250 BT headset and my SPV M2000. The Jabra 250 worked fine on the XDAII but is terribly crackly on the newer model.
This is even when pairing it with the enhanced pairing of pressing Volume Up and Phone button together to pair.
Any ideas?
qtek 9090 bluetooth problem
Hi All,
I have new qtek9090 with cellink bluetooth headset. It is work normal, but i am loosing connection to headset each time qtek go to stand by mode. I need to switch off/on the bluetooth in order to restore the connection. Any ideas?
I often get a message stating:
"The Bluetooth Radio failed to turn ON due to insufficient driver momory available. You must perform a normal reset before you can turn ON the Bluetooth Radio."
Does your device also give you this message?
Is it also using the Broadcom "Bluetooth for Windows CE BT-PPC/PE Version 1.0.0 Build 2200"?
Interested to know if you have the same problems with the same bluetooth driver.
same problem
My qtek 9090 shows te same problem
This is a known problem with the Blue Angel, unfortunately, until they bring out a fix, all you can do is a soft reset.
upgrade
hi all,
how can i get updates from www.imateclub.com?
I can't register there, because I have qtek 9090 and not i-mate
thanks
O2 Sourced info on which BT headsets work
See: http://www.my-xda.com/downloads/Other_Bluetooth.pdf

New to XDA IIs - is there anything I should know?

Having just taken delivery of an XDA IIs on Tuesday of last week, I was wondering if other users of this handset (or its variations) had any advice on how to get the most out of it in terms of useful apps, upgrades etc.
As a MS SmartPhone user for over two years I'm not completely clueless when it comes to the device or its operation, but there seems to be a dearth of information about these PPC devices elsewhere. I'd appreciate any pointers and tips.
Thanks in advance.
Get the Bluetooth patch then enjoy.
Can I apply the Asia BT Patch for the O2 XDA IIs to a UK XDA IIs, without any sideeffects?
O2 XDA IIs Bluetooth Patch?
Can someone please post a link to the 02 XDA IIs bluetooth patch?
Cheers
I've got 2 bluetooth patches, one is the essential one to bring you up to build 3500, the other is the one released at CES to give us 2 new bluetooth profiles.
both are available here[/url]
Thanks for that, have they made much of a difference for you?
The build 3500 patch made a phenominal difference to the build1900 that my XDA2s came with. bluetooth is stable, works, doesnt crash. fantastic.
I've installed the other one since then, it doesnt stop any of the other stuff working, but gives you new profiles for a stereo headset when playing music, and a bluetooth keyboard, neither of which I have, but reports on HowardsForums.com suggest that other people are getting on great with this.
I have been able to activate a semi-voice dial from my bt headset since I've had both patches (dont know if second one is essential or not - didnt try before I had it), as long as your voice dial software is running, you have to wakeup the headset by pressing the call button for a period of time longer than a single press but less than turning it off, you get white noise, at this point you can send voice commands to your XDA, but the feedback still comes out of the XDA speaker. it's a send only. Once the call is dialling though the ringing comes through to headset as normal.
This is a step in the right direction in my opinion!
What voice dial software are you using ?
Does anyone know how I can get hold of an O2 patch for fixing the poor mic performance when using the speaker?
@raiderz
I'm using Fonix Voice Dial, which came free on a disk from o2, apparently their new and improved Voice Central is much better (according to other forum users). Check out www.fonix.com
@mhanbury
Can't help with a speaker issue, havent tried speaker phone myself yet, I'm more of a headset person.
I think other users may have had the mic problem, not sure if it was hard/soft ware in the end. Several people have had it fixed now. I was reading about it on HowardForums, I've seen you there too, so it might be worth doing a search for microphone issue and seeing what comes up.
Works a treat, many many thanks!
XDA2s - Blackberry ?
Does anyone know if Blackberry is available on the XDA2s ?
- Activate the button lock or it will do all kinds of wierd stuff in your pocket.
- Check out clear type and see if you like it.
- Go to permanent save and make sure your contacts and calendar is stored permanently. With an XDA you NEVER know when it will do a major reset.
- Assign a button to flip the screen to make it easier browsing the web.
- Chose corporate during install to avoid the slow O2 active interface (that is if you don't like it)
- Get a fix for the minimize/closing of programs, like pocket plus.
- Take frequent backups to the PC
- Be carefull not to break the connector locking pins on the charger interface.
- Put the back light while on battery to the lowest setting. It drains your battery.
- Dont leave wifi on, it drains the battery.
- Get a better case for it. It's a pain having to get it out of the case to answer a call.
What case did you go for?
Do you have a link for it?

Nosie With A2DP!!!

Hi I'm new to the site, i had read a lot post about upgrading roms from different companys, i read people describe how good the a2dp quilty is, but the problems comes, i first upgraded the rom to T-Mobile , then i found there are a high pitch nosie, at first, i though it was just my earphone, after i changed it, it still the same, then i upgrade to the QTEK rom, the nosie still comes, the nosie comes as the singer start to sing!!! it makes my so dizzy, i had try to link my BT to my PC, but they sound much different! no nosie plus clearer sound!
the second problem is that when a phone call-in, the ringtone goes via BT rather than built-in speaker???
the third problem is if you set ur BT as both hands free/set and wireless stero, during a connected phone call, if you press any button on the dial pad, all the sound will gone, but the phone is still connected, i found this problem when i using my voice mail?!
also after i update to the non-O2 rom, my phone is no longer accept any MMS, i already config all the setting from O2, is just that i don't have my MMS acount appear on my mail box. i also try the .cab setting file too!
My A2DP BT is i-Tech S35
ROM Version: 1.30.77WWE (QTEK)
Radio Version: 1.09.00 (QTEK)
ExtROM Version: 1.13.188 WWE (O2)
Many Thanks!!!
Was it just me than having this problem???
- I've not the first problem.
- I've the second problem
- I never experienced third problem
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46540
Click on the above link , download the file and run it on your phone, do not alter any of the options, just click next on everything it will fix your MMS problem
thx a ur advice coff... but it still doesn't work, plus i starting to think that the nosie might cause by my s35, due to the campasility.. (sorry can't spell)
Hi MicmiC901,
Yes, it probably is something "locally" with your phone/headset/area/etc, since I also have same experience as asci, meaning;
1. NO, don't have that problem
2. YES, I have same issue (to me this is actually OK, since when headset is connected, I WANT it to only ring in the headset)
3. NO, never experienced this problem
I use the latest Qtek ROM with AKU2 and A2DP, but have never experienced that high-frequent-noise-issue you mention with any other of the A2DP ROMs on my JasJar (TMobile Germany ROM, a custom-ROM from the forums).
so RonnyGydar, which bt headset u using @ the moment? i just try with my friends logitech bt headphone, it get worse than my i.tech, sound get Stuttering , so i think i better change a new bt, would u recommand moto ht-820?
Hi MicmiC901,
Sorry the veeery slow response...but now I have even one more BT Stereo headset...so then you get the "bonus" of even more info in my reply!
I have 3 BT Stereo Headsets, and here is a short summary of experience of them all.
HP BT Stereo Headphones (same HW as the Logitech ones as I understand).
Sound is good, clear, OK bass. Nothing exceptional, but I was very pleased with them. Sound could be a bit higher at the highest volume...if you plan to use then in noisy environments...but not really an issue...since they are quite loud.
Motorola HS820
Soundwise (clarity and bass) very simmilar to the HP ones...can't point my finger on any differences. But they seem actually a little less loud than the HP ones...so with these I struggeled to hear Podcasts when I sat on a bus going through tunnels. The HP headphones are slightly louder, I think.
Bonus of these are the excellent batterylife and miniUSB plug...plus the HP ones do not have a microphone, so the HP ones are only for music. So I would easily chose the Motorola's before the HP headphones.
One minus for me with the Motorola's are that they hurt my ears after a couple of hours of use. ...that at lack of "powerfull" bass, got me to look at the i-Tech BluePRO's...
i-Tech BluePRO
These have very good bass (and they sure look like they should have it too...pretty big earmufflers...with these, you look like you are working at a construction site or something, but the clarity of the sound is actually worse than HP and Motorola...they sound a bit fuzzy.
...but I still use these all the time...mainly for two reasons. One is the excellent bass (I like to listen to techno and trance...and then bass is important, the other is that they isolate outside sounds (due to the enormous padding), so I can have the sound as low as I prefer...and STILL hear all my music without disturbance from other sounds in the environment (like sitting on the bus in a tunnel, or at a noise Gym).
It also seems that there is quite a bit difference in how the different manufacturers implement BT profiles.
My Motorola and i-Tech BluePRO have problems with "Pause/Resume"-button on headset when used with my JasJar (Pause works, but not resume...or opposite...not sure which it was, dont have the headsets with me today)...but the HP ones does not (I tested them a couple of times, and the HP headphones worked all the time)!?
Re-connection after a time without use seems also to vary a bit. The Motorola I can turn off/on the headset, and they reconnect automatically to my JasJar. The i-Tech BluePRO's I must choose re-connect in "Bluetooth settings" on my JasJar every time I want to use them.
The "famous" "lag-issue" everybody experiences I experience with all my headphones in some situations...and it does not seem any better or worse among the headsets. It seems to also be affected by general radio disturbance, since I have a lot of problems with lag at work, but no problems at all at the Gym (which is good for me...since that is the place I am most happy with having my wireless headphones), and some issues at home.
Hope this was of any help!
actually i have the problem micmic is talking about.. it happened when i upgraded my wiz to a newer rom to get the a2dp function. eventually i do not have a bt.stereo -headset yet.. (coming in about 2 weeks) but i have the issues with the sound. it's almost like a bad bitrate or something? ..wierd it is since i remains even if i downgrade my rom. =/
Hi epluribus and MicmiC901,
Is the "stuttering" you both mentioning the same as I call "occational lag"?
IF it is...it you should certainly not have it when you do the following test;
1. Reset your JasJar/Universal (to clean memmory completely)
2. Started listening to music over headset with...
3. The Universal lying on the desk in front of you completely still 50cm from your face
4. You sitting completely still
5. No WiFi on close to you.
...this test is completely overkill...but if it STILL stutters in that "controlled scenario"...well then it must be something different with your Universal or headset HW. Cause I can walk around with my JasJar (also in areas I know there are 5-6 WiFi connections active...like my appartment), and even put the JasJar on the table and walk 5-10 meters away from it...and have no or at least nothing more than an "occational stutter"/"lag".
It seems to be two major factors affecting this "stuttering"/"lag" (from my experiences at least...I have used A2DP a lot with my Universal...couple of hours every day);
1. Universal struggling outputting(RAM/CPU...or both!?)
One help here is to apply the registry "A2DP priority" fix (found it in the forums here).
Another is to close all programs before using it (I usually do not do this...I usually only do it in hindsight when I get the problem).
2. Signal between Universal and headset struggling (obstructions between Universal and headset, WiFi nearby, so forth)
I for example get this problem if I put my Universal in my trouser pocket (I know, I must have big pockets, and walk around, I get stuttering/lag occationally. If I then take it out, and hold it in my hand farily still when I walk...no stuttering. I have found, that when I walk, it is OK to have it in my backpack/rugsack...then for some reason it very rearly stutters...so I usually do that.
But when I walk of the bus at work, and walk into the "campus" of my workplace, which is cramped with radiotransmitters (is norways largest Telecom company)...I get a lot of stuttering, and need to take it out of backpack, and hold it in my hand, at it gets a lot better.
In short: A2DP with the Universal works, but is sensitive to disturbance/obstructions/moving around...and to make it worse, it is also sometimes dependant of the Universal itself struggling with CPU/RAM.
I have BTW had the exact same problems before with Qtek2020 and Qtek9090 (which I got hold of some "A2DP patches", when I had those devices). ...but I really had a LOT more stuttering with those two...so much so, that I never used A2DP with them on a daily basis.
...so it can seem that HTC is getting slightly better on each new device...?
Hope this info can be of some use!
...but it might not...if my assumption at the beginning here is wrong, and your "stuttering"-issue is something completely different than the "lag"-issue I talk about!?

[Q] Which Headset provides system sounds

Hi all,
I come from the TP2 and used my jabra JX10 9old, 1st version) on it.
The system sounds were forwarded to the headset without problem. I heard the noticiation, alarm or ringtone as if it was coming from the internal speaker.
Connecting the same headset to the DHD now, I hear only a 'signal' informing that I have an incoming call.
Deciding that I need a newer headset to go with the new phone I tried a few headsets but get the impression that it is not possible to hear system sounds. Can somebody please confirm this possibility with any of the BT headsets around.
If I put an 'oldphone' as a ringtone, I want to hear that 'oldphone' when I get a call. Same more incoming emails, sms etc. Please advise which headset is capable of doing so.
I just tried the Jabra extreme. Music is being forwarded if I play it, but the system sounds are not coming through, this although the BT settings show that phone and media sounds are forwarded to the headeset.
with many thanks for a good advise,
Ruud
this is a tricky one... have you installed any custom roms etc?
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this is a tricky one... have you installed any custom roms etc?
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Hi fkofilee,
no, I am still on stock-rom, purchased in Russia from one of the official dealers proposed on HTC's website. I am quite sure that I am fully original.
For the moment I am not into flashing another ROM. I came to the HDH with the main hope that this continously flashing would stop. It just takes too much time and it never was perfect anyway.
About the topic at hand :
I now have tried Jabra JX10 series 2, Jabra extreme and Jabra Stone on my DHD. All of which show that they forward phone and media, but none of them is giving me ringtones, notifications & alarm at the moment they sound at the phone.
If this is standard Android, next question would be if somebody has an additional software which is able to arrange this, I would be happy to try.
regards,
Ruud
Still hoping
Hi all,
added the Plantronic Voyager Pro to the mix, same result. Not even showing phone audio and media, but only phone audio. Though it was certainly a better fit for my ears, the fact that one more is lacking the result I am seeking was not convincing enough to purchase it.
Anyone please, who is able to get system sounds through Bluetooth. I really liked it with my TP2, to be "in meetings" not disturbing anyone, but being informed about all that my phone usually barks at me.
Regards,
Ruud

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