So, some of you have this error, some dont. So lets try and figure it out. Heres what we know.
The problem affects ALL Artemis WM6 ROMS.
Remember, the issue doesnt appear when just using it normally. Its only under certain circumstances. Heres how you re-create the problem.
Run Tomtom, this causes the error90% of the time.
Create a new word document and try to save anywhere.
Heres my setup and what ive tried to fix it.
Device: MDA Compact III
SD Card: 1gb
Ive tried font cache size, system cache, removing the memory card.
Please dont post "I dont get the error" if you havnt tried running tomtom or saving a word document.
Thanks
To add to the problem re-creation, I was trying to copy a directory with around 15 files in it from the internal memory to the storage card, the message just kept popping up for all the duration of the copy process, I stoppped clicking ok eventually. I looked at the free program mempry available then and it was pretty good at around 22mb.
Device: Orbit XDA
SD Card: 1gb
I too have noticed that looking at the free storage space seems to fix it for tomtom (but not word). There is something else wrong with Excel in that the "Save As" is in the wrong place, infact where it is isnt actually save as.
You're right, I haven't noticed this before with excel. I can't remember if it was like this before, was it? It won't be easy figuring this little memory issue out. I hope someone has a trick up their sleeves.
I have the WM6 emulator running on my pc and the excel thing isnt there. Comparing the registry settings on the emulator with my device. I would love to hear if anyone does actually have Word working without issue.
BREAKTHROUGH!
OK. I installed the original Orbit rom and... IT WORKS!!!! So the question is what did bepe and the guys do when they de-branded it? The orbit rom has an Ext-Rom with a load of branded stuff PLUS! some patches. I bet one of these patches fixes the issue!
These custom roms have NO Ext-Rom at all, hence the increased storage space. however in the process of removing the ext rom they have managed to cause these memory errors.
So guys, any chance of a rom close to the Orbit rom but with the English language and Ext rom left in tack?
Great work mate, it is the removal/merging of the extended rom that's causing the problem then. Maybe it's not even a patch in the extended rom, maybe it's the way the extended rom was merged that's causing it. This surely deserves more looking into.
Great breakthrough
Word FIX!
Thanks to pvdhelm for the tip on this one. Attached is a patch to fix the memory issue with word (and only word). To fix it for other apps you need to view the memory in the control panel and click on "Storage Card". The word fix is pernament but the other memory issue it only until you reset your phone.
Absolutely brilliant, so it looks like missing registry entries!! We need to find out what was in the original extended rom then to find out if we're missing anything else. Looks like only me and you here, you should post this fix in the main threads mate.
Cheers and well done.
I have a copy of the rom, tried isntalling it all but to no avail. It looks like on boot up the system thinks it has a different ammount of ram due to the ext rom being merged. By displaying the ammount of storage it realises it has a different ammount and fixes it. Until the next reboot. So if anyone knows what changes when you view the storage that may be fixing it I would love to know.
Or if somone can make a rom with the ext rom still in place.
EDIT: Heres one just for the MDA Compact III without WiFi users. It applys the Word memory errror fix but also fixes the Comm Manager issue and does so just for the MDA as it removes WiFi from the list.
Maybe this is a clue for you all. I have never had these errors, ands I use Tomtom daily and have tested word for you again with no fault.
The difference? Well I upgraded to WM6.0 the original way before USPL patch and flashed the OS only. I'm assuming you with problems used the ROM installer method. Am I right with my assumption? If so that should narrow down the culprit.
I used Bepes original WM6 WWE OS only upgrade, therefore the Ext ROM on my device is still the old T-Mobile WM5 one and was simply not allowed to run. So it can't be right to assume there is something missing from an EXT ROM patch.
It's most certainly the extended rom being merged then, there's nothing else to it.
gajet, can you give me the exact steps you took. I went from the T-Mobile rom to Black and blue then to the others. I uses USPL first though.
Can you give me a quick set of steps you took i.e Original T-Mobile rom, then ran USPL, then updated to Bepes.
Also, if you used bepe's can you also tell me which rom update util you used? as the one ive tried has errors at the end.
Thanks
dannyoneill said:
I have a copy of the rom, tried isntalling it all but to no avail. It looks like on boot up the system thinks it has a different ammount of ram due to the ext rom being merged. By displaying the ammount of storage it realises it has a different ammount and fixes it. Until the next reboot. So if anyone knows what changes when you view the storage that may be fixing it I would love to know.
Or if somone can make a rom with the ext rom still in place.
EDIT: Heres one just for the MDA Compact III without WiFi users. It applys the Word memory errror fix but also fixes the Comm Manager issue and does so just for the MDA as it removes WiFi from the list.
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VERY interesting reading!
If you move this thread, please drop a link on here for us, thanks. The first one to crack this problem will be worshipped from afar I am sure!!
I think it could be an order of upgrade issue, heres the latest.
1. Downgraded to T-Mobile WM5 rom
2. Ran USPL
3. Upgraded to Bepe WM6 using the EXE version
The word issue is no longer there but the out of memory in Tomtom is. Also no ext rom.
It would be good to know from others and gajet what steps they took and which files they uses to do it. Especially as gajet still has his extended rom.
I've tried:
official t-mobile wm5 to german wm6 to bepe uspl &
official t-mobile wm5 to bepe uspl
Both times I have had the error with tomtom but no problems with word.
Both times temp fix (looking at storage) worked (sorry about font cache red herring - thought I was onto something there).
Just tied chi-tai extended battery plugin with the storage showing on the homepage (as a way to force system to get correct memory) but no joy.
I have htc touch com manager and phone skin but not the home plugin.
Cheers
Matt
I think Ive cracked it. Just doing some final testing but watch out for a new "How to" thread.
go Danny go.
Look forward to seeing it.
Will test and report back once you've posted.
Cheers
Matt
Sadly the original thread was edited to reflect the OS update was repackaged but eddie2k still goes on the reexplain the process in this thread.
eddie2k said:
then use winrar to unpack the (bepe) wm6 wwe rom in this page (written in red). flashed using bootloader method.
after u get german rom installed , run ARTE os flash utility from xda ftp (log in properly) link don't work if not logon properly..
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Artemis/arte.zip unpack
copy os.nb from first folder (bepe) wwe rom to arte folder and rename os.nb to windows.nb then run UpgradeRom.bat
hard reset, soft reset done.
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Now I didn't bother installing the german O2 release as my MDACIII was CID locked, so I just used ARTE package with Bepes WM6 .nb renamed and flashed the OS only, then after hard resetting, at the point of about to load EXT ROM soft reset.
This thread was also the guide although you could skip the process of extracting the .os from a ROM package as Bepe originally provided us with the raw windows.nb file.
Thanks gajet, Ive just posted the steps. Your post was deffinatly the key. Once I saw you still had your ext rom I knew we could do it.
Answer is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313486
First of all I apologies because my thread isn't really phone related. But I saw that some members have experience with magellan gps devices, like Roadmate.
Triton are new GPS handled devices from Magellan. They run WINCE 5.0 Core and have custom shell(similar structure like Roadmate devices).
Issue that I have is that during upgrade of firmware power went down on my Desktop PC and flashing process gone bad. Now I can power up device but there is no connectivity to PC(shell uses special drivers to connect to PC, which now are probably corrupted or what so ever).
So what I would like to now is somebody can explain to me is it possible to change somehow startup process, or something similar. I think that word "cooking" is used to describe process of editing OS image to add, replace, modify OS. I tried some of tools for editing but I'm not sure where I'm making mistakes because I can't even get dump of files from OS image. I again say it is WinCE 5.0 CORE. I tried looking with hex editor but I can't find any reference to mgmShell.exe(that is name of shell exe). I would be very thankful if somebody could explain me these things to me because then I would probably be able to copy files back(I would add FileManCE or MortScript and I figured out way of applying OS image from SD Card) from SD card to internal storage and restore my unit.
If there is anybody interested I will put somewhere whole update package from Magellan. It contains OS image in bin format.
Again I apologies but I'm very desperate to restore my unit , and as I can see this only place with enough knowledge to help me. Sorry.
Trying to get HTC Home Weather working thru T-Mobile UK using v1.5HTCHomeproxy0409.cab (without success), I accidentaly renamed the folder \\\Registry\HKLM\Software to \\\Registry\HKLM\n !!!
Whatever I try, I can't rename it "Software". I've tried creating a new "Software" folder and copying/moving the files across, but a few won't copy (possibly as they are in use at the time?)
/Apps/Shared/ "\Windows\mscoree.dll" and /Apps/Shared/ "\Windows\Intellipad.dll"
...plus some .NET Compact Framework files in /Microsoft/ folder - I'm not sure if these will affect the normal functions / programmes I use though.
so... is there any way I can put the files I moved from
\\\Registry\HKLM\Software back, do I need to etc ????
Would appreciate advice from someone less accident prone!!!!
Its a (recently bought off eBay), ex T Mob (UK I think) unbranded with HTC home etc. Can't work out how to see what version of HTCHome was on, but guess I've written over it with the proxy.cab now - the icons have changes and have lost today screen battery indicator, but that's a problem for another day!
Not sure what the ROM is, if its an original or cooked (OS ID looks normal to me, WM5?), but ExtROM looks like its been hacked by its name - dferriera WM5SE.
Someone has suggested I flash a new ROM, but I think that's a project for later, I'm new to this and still reading about it. I could hard reset - will that sort this out? - but am hoping for an easy way to rename the existing files.
Thanks
hello, really need help upgrading my MDA Vario II (Hermes 300) from WM5 to WM6. Can't seem to make a ROM work, have tried the SD way and it just doesn't seem to pick anything up.
I am running
HERM300
IPL-1.04
HERM300
SPL-2.10. Olipro
Am I just using the wrong ROMs or am I doing something wrong?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Make sure your sd card is:
1. Smaller than 2 gig (non sdhc)
2. Formatted fat32 (not fat)
Then make sure the file is named hermimg.nbh (as in hermes image) and you should be good to go.
I've got a 2GB Micro SD card, formatted FAT32
well I've got no .nbh file with the rom, the rom is just an .exe that I cannot change. I'm guessing thats where I am going wrong is it? I need to put a .nbh file with the rom?
Many Thanks
Ahh, ok, your trying to install the stock shipped rom (upgrade), it sounds like.
You can use something like 7zip (I use 7zip, but it's just personal Preference) or winrar to extract the exe, the stock rom will need to have the 2nd exe extracted as well (there is another exe inside the original exe). Then the nbh file will appear that can be renamed and put on the sd card.
Also, what rom are you trying to install? Just to be sure.
If it's one of the ones from this section of the wiki you should be good to go.
Or if it's one of the "custom" roms found here in the hermes section of the forums, you should also be all set.
thanks very much for your help, followed what you said and it worked perfectly.
Thanks again!
Glad it worked!
Thanks for helping out boog. Closing thread.
Hey I want to add in a extrom for the first time on my siemens sx66. I read all the instructions and everything on the wiki. But they tell me I need a unlocker tool for it. I tried to find every link possible for it, but they all give me an error so Iam guessing there dead. Can anyone post up a new one please.
here you are, the unlocker and the repart doc
Thank you so much, appreciate it.
Okay, I downgraded back to wm2003, made it so total storage is 60mb. Now I upgraded back to wm6.5 explode. So now I just unhide, unlock and then just copy the extrom zip file to the extended_rom file???
Actually, I was reading another post of yours, and I remember you saying to put the /extrom folder in a sd card?? I dont remember reading that in the wiki. But anyways you think you could provide me with instructions on how to do that. I have the sd card.
by resizing the old extrom folder to (probably) 128kb, as suggested in the wiki, you don't have the old space to park the extrom, still the sd card has an autorun, as you might have experienced before, if for example there is a folder 2577 on the card, whatever is in there runs, when the card is inserted, but don't mind about that, just an example.
you have a file extrom.zip or something comparable, just unpack it and put it on the sd card, so that it shows EXTROM\ with a bunch of cabs in there and a cfg.txt, an autorun.exe and a picture custom.bmp.
- the autorun.exe is what executes the entire thing when inserted
- the cfg.txt holds the config, meaning it describes what happens there, there is a list of cabs in there, and how to process them,
- the cabs are the installation files of the programs to be installed, if you are uncertain, whether you need each one of them, maybe googling the name helps you determine that.
- the custom.bmp is the picture showing while installing the extrom and so rather uninteresting for you.
remember to make sure, the list of cab files in the folder is the same as listed in the cfg.txt, having it downloaded and extracted that is the case by default, but if you want to customize it, remember that simply copying the files into the folder is not enough, they need to be listed in the cfg.
i personally for example remove the adobe reader and arcsoft mms from extrom and put own apps in there.
every program in there is installed to the system storage, so make sure you don't stuff your device with to many apps that maybe you don't need.
Yay it worked!! Hey thanks alot for the help, didnt think it be so simple. Anyways, thanks again.
Heh I wrote this on my BA, more reasons to love this thing.