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In car bluetooth handsfree

I am looking for some feedback on the various in car bluetooth kits that are available in the marketplace, ie the fully installed kits rather than the in ear jobbies.
I have a Pioneer head unit that offers bluetooth headset features however due to a design fault it is fecking useless, ie the mobile phone can't be within a metre of the head unit unless you are prepared for the caller to put up with terrible interference.
Admittedly for a normal phone this would be of a lesser issue as there is the facility to store numbers on the headset, but as I use a XDA Exec with TomTom, I need the pda where I can see it
I have used an in ear device in the past, but it is bloody annoying.
I have looked at the various Parrot kits, the 3000, 3100 and 3200 all of which would do the job, but I don't know how they fair in reality.
I have used a Nokia bluetooth kit, IIRC CK1W or was it CK 7W that appeared to be a litle flaky when trying to connect to the exec.
Whilst browsing eBay, I have come across these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SIEMENS-BLUET...6QQihZ008QQcategoryZ42419QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ,http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLUETOOTH-HAN...7QQihZ009QQcategoryZ80085QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTOROLA-BLUE...3QQihZ018QQcategoryZ35190QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
So does anyone use any of the above and does anyone have any recommendations?
Cheers and Happy New Year

I have been using a Sony head unit with handsfree, A2DV and AVRCP. Its been pretty good and I have no problems recommending it.

dsen said:
I have been using a Sony head unit with handsfree, A2DV and AVRCP. Its been pretty good and I have no problems recommending it.
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Would that be the MEX-BT5000? I'm considering getting it for use with my Wizard.

Yes, thats the one.
http://www.sony.com.au/xplod/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22000

Hi all,
Seems the most appropriate place to post this.
I recently upgraded my headunit to the Sony MEX-BT5000. It plays CD's, MP3 CD disks, has a good tuner and and AUX in. It also supports bluetooth profiles A2DP, AVRCP, Hands-Free (HFP) and Object Push Profile (OPP - for contacts) and as is supports A2DP and AVRCP (basicically A2DP but the remote control features) you can also play music from your MP3 player, phone or whatever through the stereo. It works fine with my M3100.
The handsfree calling is good and pauses the music when in call but there are bad points which I've not managed to solve yet such as inability to initiate voice dialing from the unit, the call button brings up a Sony phone menu. It also can only store 50 contacts and doesn't automatically sync with the M3100 like my Parrot CK3100 would. This means you need to decide which 50 you want to have on there. You can assign 6 speed dials to the 6 preset buttons on the front.
The sound from this stereo is far better than my previous Sony MP3 stereo and on this alone I would recommend it to anyone. It also comes with an infrared remote which allows you to digit dial, andswer and hang-up etc alongside all the basic stereo functions.
Hope this might help someone looking to buy something similar.
http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProd...n_GB&pageType=Overview&category=ICA+CD+Tuners
Gavin.

I've had the BT5000 since January, and use it with my Wizard. Its BT performance is the best I've ever seen -- it's the best speakerphone I've ever used.
Sony also has a new MEX-BT2500 unit that's about half the price of the 5000, with all the same BT functionality plus an aux jack on the front panel.

Parrot
I am using Parrot, both the ck3100 without the LCD and with the LCD, and since upgrading to Radio 1.15/1.18 have had no issues switching between them and my Jabra X10 BT Headset.

I am using this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230142025172&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:VRI
Works good for me...

Laubscherc said:
I am using Parrot, both the ck3100 without the LCD and with the LCD, and since upgrading to Radio 1.15/1.18 have had no issues switching between them and my Jabra X10 BT Headset.
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When I experimented with a friend's Parrot unit I discovered that it didn't retrieve the contacts from my Exec, and I couldn't do voice-dialling with it. It worked OK as a hands-free speakerphone but that's about it.
Was your experience better than this? If so, is this because you upgraded your Universal's radio stack?

SiliconS said:
When I experimented with a friend's Parrot unit I discovered that it didn't retrieve the contacts from my Exec, and I couldn't do voice-dialling with it. It worked OK as a hands-free speakerphone but that's about it.
Was your experience better than this? If so, is this because you upgraded your Universal's radio stack?
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Sorry for the late reply.
Check the Firmware version on the Parrot. You can download the BT updater from their site, and use it to upgrade the firmware of the BT Car Kit. I had the same issue, but after upgrading to the new FW, the issue was fixed.

I have this car radio too.
Works like a champ on my iMate JasJar.

Car Stereo with Bluetooth

Hi,
I was just wondering if anyone has a car stereo with bluetooth capabilities. I have been looking at getting one myself. For the longest time I used a treo 650 and had an FM transmitter hooked up to the audio port so I could hear my music and GPS programs over the stereo. Since the Touch only has the mini USB out and I have yet to find a fm transmitter that uses this interface I've basically been stuck using the rear speaker on the phone.
I have seen a bunch of car stereos that are bluetooth capable. I realize that they have to be able to play streaming music via bluetooth and not just handsfree to get the full "stereo effect". My question.... Has anyone tried this out or knows anyone that has used it. Also, how would hands free actually work via the stereo?
Thanks!
Aaron

hmmm..why not just get a bluetooth receiver with a 3.5mm jack. I'm currently using the itech bluetooth clip radio and am able to output stereo music from my touch to my speakers. It also doubles as my handsfree when i'm out and about.
As you mentioned you're using an FM transmitter hooked up to the audio port of your car speakers, this would be something very similar to your existing setup and probably a lot cheaper than getting those bluetooth speakers you mentioned

I needed to replace my car stereo as it is because the display didnt work. Just figured I would upgrade and get one that had bluetooth capabilities but it would seem either no one has tried to play music through a deck with bluetooth capalities here OR that not one has read the thread. Either way I think I'll at least spend the cash and see what happens. Wost comes to worse I just bring it back

Also.. I was going for the whole LESS wires thing.. Having a bluetooth reciever with a 3.5 mm jack that goes to an fm transmitter just.. yeah thats alot of clutter. I'd like to have it where the touch is mounter to the dash (as it is now) and all I need to do is push a button on the car stereo deck and the sound is routed though there. Having the phone plugged in is one thing but then having an fm transmitter and a bluetooth reciever and what not all over the dash is just a pain in the ass I think.

im using the sony/Erikson mbr-100 bluetooth stereo receiver with 3.5 jack. works great.

mg48 said:
im using the sony/Erikson mbr-100 bluetooth stereo receiver with 3.5 jack. works great.
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Is there anything specific I should be looking for. Just.. basically that it can played streemed music and not just hands free correct? That way ALL of the audio will play through the stereo.. not just the phone calls

Aaron McCarthy said:
Is there anything specific I should be looking for. Just.. basically that it can played streemed music and not just hands free correct? That way ALL of the audio will play through the stereo.. not just the phone calls
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The magic phrase you're looking for is A2DP. That's the Bluetooth protocol for streaming music from one device to another.
I got a Parrot MK6100 for Christmas, which is a dedicated hands-free kit that plugs into the back of the OEM head unit in my '99 Audi. The MK6100 is both a hands-free for the phone and a streaming music player for the phone too. It's excellent so your proposed solution might be perfect for you if your new head unit delivers the same functionality as this Parrot.
ALL the audio from my Touch is delivered through the car's speakers, including screen taps, TomTom directions, music and so on. There are some caveats though, caused by the Touch rather than the Parrot, I think:
Although the phone functionality works perfectly (it's actually very impressive - I just get in the car and it works straight away) playing music is more complex. I have to reconnect the phone's A2DP output to the car kit before I start the HTC Audio Manager, and I have to exit the Audio Manager before shutting down the car kit, otherwise it crashes and requires a soft reset for the Touch before it'll work again. I think WMP is more reliable but it doesn't integrate into the HTC Cube or HTC Home utilities so it's not a desirable solution for me.
I recommend you test the bluetooth streaming functionality with your Touch and the head unit before you buy the head unit if you can - you might find an incompatibility.

Aaron McCarthy said:
Also.. I was going for the whole LESS wires thing.. Having a bluetooth reciever with a 3.5 mm jack that goes to an fm transmitter just.. yeah thats alot of clutter. I'd like to have it where the touch is mounter to the dash (as it is now) and all I need to do is push a button on the car stereo deck and the sound is routed though there. Having the phone plugged in is one thing but then having an fm transmitter and a bluetooth reciever and what not all over the dash is just a pain in the ass I think.
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Sorry just saw this post was updated..anyway the clip radio does have A2DP and AVRCP support. Also, there is no need to use the FM transmitter. I mentioned similar..not use existing
but yes there will be a wire going from your speakers into the 3.5mm jack of the bluetooth receiver. If you want it completely wireless, then you will need speakers that have a built in bluetooth receiver..not sure where you can get one though..

Parrot Rhym n'blue
You can find it on www.parrot.biz.

I also have a question about htc touch and my head unit Alpine IDA X001.
I'm thinking to buy the Alpine bluetooth adaptater KCE-300BT which works with the head unit i have.
With this adaptater the head unit can display your last calls and let your browse in the phonebook.
Do you think that it will work with the HTC Touch (Windows Mobile 6) I have ??
Thanks

Here are the specs of the BT adaptater of Alpine :
SECTION BLUETOOTH
Version Bluetooth Bluetooth 1,1 CERTIFIÉE
Puissance de sortie +4 dBm Max. (Power class 2)
Profil HFP (Profil mains libres)
HSP (Profil casque téléphonique)
A2DP (Profil de distribution audio avancée)
AVRCP (Profil de télécommande audio/vidéo)

I have the SONY MEX BT2500 CD MP3 CAR STEREO that I had for Christmas and fitted myself. I am really impressed with this unit and it works really well, it also works as a bluetooth hands free.

GEORGCHILL said:
I also have a question about htc touch and my head unit Alpine IDA X001.
I'm thinking to buy the Alpine bluetooth adaptater KCE-300BT which works with the head unit i have.
With this adaptater the head unit can display your last calls and let your browse in the phonebook.
Do you think that it will work with the HTC Touch (Windows Mobile 6) I have ??
Thanks
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You can stream music and recieve calls with it, but i havent been able to get the phone book inside the KCE-300Bt yet.

lankydwarf said:
I have the SONY MEX BT2500 CD MP3 CAR STEREO that I had for Christmas and fitted myself. I am really impressed with this unit and it works really well, it also works as a bluetooth hands free.
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Hello there,
I have Blaupunkt Hamburg MP68 and the bluetooth on it is excelent. Both handsfree & streaming working fine.

I have bought a Blaupunkt Hamburg MP68 stereo. I am very satisfied by this unit, it is a very complex device and it provides even a built-in bluetooth car-kit.
However there is an issue that I cannot work out: I can't get the stereo to download the phonebook from my HTC HD2 phone.
Both stereo and phone support the PBAP profile (phone book access), but the I always get the message "DOWNLOAD FAILED" on the stereo.
I have noticed that the "Dev A" profile (serial port) from phone's Bluetooth menu has a configuration option named "Local COM port", which was automatically set to COM2. Among the options, there is one called "ActiveSync" (as seen in the attached screenshot). I think that this might be the solution. Can anyone confirm my theory? I can't get to the car sooner than 4 hours from now.....

May be worth posting this in the HD2 forums as well. it has a much newer os with newer features then the touch does, by some 3 years. I do realise that this thread may be related, but people in the HD2 section may be more aware with any bluetooth features specific to the phone as well.

No need to do it, but thanks for the tip. 10 minutes ago I have tested the "ActiveSync" port setting and it works fine: all phone contacts are downloaded into the car stereo.
Cheers!

Grats for doing it then

Another bluetooth question...

Bluetooth stereo headset on htc s620?
Does anybody have expirience with a stereo bluetooth headset on de HTC S620 or Dash? and is this possible? And wich headset is a good one?

Fortunately, the Dash has bluetooth 2.0, so you'll be able to try the newer headsets/headphones as they come out. Sony has a set of 2.0 headsets that I tried as they had the earbud style I prefer (they stay in). The sound quality was a big disappointment though, not approaching that of wired headphones. The range was great though. Tried to watch video with them, but the audio was out of sync. Wound up returning them.
These look worth trying: http://mobilitytoday.com/news/007355/Jabra_BT8010_CES
Whatever you decide to try out, make sure the place you get them has a return policy.

Thanks for your reply.
i think i will keep it by mine wired headset

My dash was setup for poor audio on the stereo bluetooth. After much searching, i found out i had to delete the keys in the registry for it to work. Once i did that, audio quality improved ten times.
More on that here. I appear to not be the only one with the issue. If your getting poor audio quality with the stereo bluetooth, give it a shot.

I just got the itech clip headset which takes nomal earbud headphones not the headphones take look dorky when you wear them. A2DP AVCRP, works perfectly. No problems with audio quality. Handling of phone calls back to windows media player is fine Microsoft voice comand works fine as well. I have the o2 Germany ROM installed.

bluetooth headset profile question
everytime i connect my bluetooth headset or my wired handsfree headset my profile automatically changes to "headset" and i cannot change it to any other profile while the headset is connected
is there any way to change your profile while a headset is connected? or is there a registry edit that will do the job?
thanks in advance

Bluetooth loudness
Hi,
I am using the Dash flashed to the S620 original ROMs, on the US T-Mobile network.
Everything is fine, but the call volume on with my bluetooth headset seems low.
(I tried a Motorla hs500 and a samsung wep200)
Is there maybe a registry hack to increase the bluetooth volume?
Cheers,
Bela

I know what your talking about and I hate it. Only way to change the profile is to turn off your BT Headset.
I would like to have 2 headset profiles so i can have a silent one and that isnt silent.

bluetooth a2dp registry settings
So... following a thread here, I deleted everything in regards to those keys and I'm getting random dropouts whilst listening to music over my Motorola HT820 headphones. Is there anyway someone can send me their backup settings or tell me the settings so I can put them back in? Am I just forced to do a clean install of the WM6 Beta rom? I know, I'm stupid for not backing up, but they said it worked well... :-( Thanks!

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings
thats where the key values were deleted...

can someone give me their values so i can reprogram it in?! thanks!

BitPool 30
MaxSupportedBitPool 30
UseJointStereo 1
all of them dwords

bluetooth file exploring
is there any application or software that i can use to look at and copy files that are on other devices through bluetooth?
i used to have a samsung phone and i was able to do this, because my co workers and i always need files that are on eachothers phones and its just easier to go and get the file yourself then to have to ask them to beam me the files
any input would be helpful

T-mobile Dash and Bluetooth Stereo headphones
Has anyone tried using the A2DP functionality with bluetooth headphones to get stereo music? In particular I'm considering the I-tech S38 with my T-mobile Dash.
Thanks in advance!

My understanding is that certain headphones work better than others. Dishe over at HoFo tried the I-tech Clip r-35 with hs SDA and (I think) a Dash and wasn't happy with the results. I've used my cheapo Logitech BT headphones with my Dash and had very good results. Because of this I'd make sure whereve ryou get them has a liberal return policy.

Thanks for the update!
I followed up by searching the threads at Hofo and read a number of reviews outlining a bunch of issues with I-tech clips. Apparently, the plantropics headsets are much better.
cheers

My brother has a plantronics 590 I think it is. It sounded really good on my MDA, but that was before I had my dash.

None of them that I have tried (and I've tried a lot) sound nearly as good as a wired set of headphones. Definitely follow the poster's advice who recommended purchasing from someone with a return policy. I did, and returned them all -- an online store with a good selection and a good return policy: http://www.mobilecityonline.com

Bluetooth problem on SPV E600
Hi guys,
Anyone got that after installing HTC rom "RUU_Excalibur_HTC_WWE_1.11.405.4_4.1.13.28_02.63.90_Ship"?
I can't get the bluetooth to start.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Bart

Same with t-mobile wm6 beta

is my P3300 actually A2DP compatible?

Heya,
for a long time i have been looking for some decent bluetooth stereo headset.
now it has come down to two models. well, actually one only
my choice: motorola s9
and the second possibility: Motorola T820
from reading the comments on amazon on those devices i realize that my phone needs to be A2DP compatible to get the best sound out of the headset.
i use s2p as music player and i know it is A2DP compatible... but is real question is: is my phone (HTC P3300 WM6) compatible with this tecnology
also: if you can suggest any other good headsets, please do so.
key features i seek:
- able to use on my phone and pc
- a2dp
- good sound and microphone quality

a2dp not working
Hi,
I have HTC artemis. I recently purchased wireless bluetooth stereo headsets (Jabra bt325)
I cannot connect it to use as wireless stereo. Its working fine as handsfree. After pairing, I cannot see wireless stereo option. Its Greyed. I know that artemis is A2DP compatible.
But i am sure that headset is fine because I tested it with n95 and it worked fine.
Please give me a solution.

Try this:
Start - settings - connections - bluetooth - and add new device
If your headset is already added, use your stylus and press on the bluetooth headset name until the following menu comes up:
Edit
Delete
Set as Hands-free
Set as Wireless Stereo
Choose no. 4

yes it is.
I'm using Dopod M700 which is the P3300 w/o the GPS module.
It works with dell BH200 BT stereo headset and also the o2 BT stereo earphones.
It works on joint stereo in WM5 and since its now running WM6.1 its real stereo.

Dell BH200
Hi thanks for the suggestion even after setting the Bluetoot head set as "set as Handsfree" it did not work, as soon as I receive or make a call the head set goes off, looks like its some compatibility with A2DP not sure, if some one has done some development or found a patch to make this work would be a great help

sameerbs said:
Hi thanks for the suggestion even after setting the Bluetoot head set as "set as Handsfree" it did not work, as soon as I receive or make a call the head set goes off, looks like its some compatibility with A2DP not sure, if some one has done some development or found a patch to make this work would be a great help
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might be a specific problem of your headset model.
i use a motorola s9 and it's quite nice. fits nice, does not disturb after hours, controls work fine, calling works fine...
BUT (and there's always a but) it has some major drawbacks i found out. while it's still nice to listen music without wires, i encounter this problems. which MIGHT be due the phone, not the headset... but i have no way to test that.
so, basicly, P3300 + motorola S9 through A2DP:
- insides works like a charm. phone in my belt, headset on. music cuality nice with some small music interrupts every now and then (maybe once per 5 minutes). phone calls nice and i can hear and they can listen me well.
but my oh my when i get on the street...
- constant music interrupts every 15 seconds. i have hang the phone around my neck so it's where my chest is to not get interrupts so often (still get one every 2-3 minutes)
- as the mic is where the ear is, if i have a call, it's impossible to hear me due the background noise. this also applies to the underground/metro. it's not that bad in a bus
and well. without A2DP enabled my music player uses so little resources the phone still works fine...
if A2DP is enabled, the phone gets REAL slow and the battery drain is MASSIVE.
when this motorola S9 break... i'll get another model to test. and when that breaks i'll probably get back to some nice wired ones (unless the CPU issues and the battery drain on the phone gets solved) ... but maybe i actually change the phone before that happens. who knows.

Bluetooth Headset for Phonecalls and Music Listening

I am doing some nice commute at the moment (170 mile round trip) every other day and have loaded some podcasts onto my nice Touch HD phone. At the moment I have one 3.5mm jacked headphone bud in one ear to the listen to them with the bluetooth earpiece in the other for the phonecalls I get.
The HD will stop the music when a call comes in on the headphone side but I would like to get a BT solution to listen to the podcasts and still answer the phone and talk without having wires everywhere!
Any suggestions?
Thanks

Looks like I am being a div! I couldn't see anything on the SD9 site which mentioned a microphone!
So, any recommendations for bluetooth headsets!!
Regards

Most bluetooth "stereo" headset can function with both headset probile and music profile.
I myself is using iTech Clip Radio. I have it connected using music profile for listening to stereo music most of the time. When call comes in, it will switch to headset mode automatically and ring in the earpieces. You can answer call by pressing a button on the clip.
The good thing about this and why it is popular because its earpieces can be disconnect from the clip. You can replace it with any 3.5mm standard earpiece. The mic is built-in to the clip.
The bad, it is not completely wire-less as Motorola HS820. You still need wire from the clip to the earpiece. The included earpiece has shorter cable, but still annoying sometimes.
Not sure if it is availble in your region. iTech bluetooth stereo headset is very popular in South East Asia region.

I've recently got a Tritton AX BlueStream:
http://www.trittontechnologies.com/products/TRIBH102.html
It's similar to the iTech clip in functionality, but the main reason I went for it is that it charges over mini-USB so you only need to carry one charger cable...
It's also £20 off here: http://www.cooleststuff.co.uk/WsProduct.asp?sessid=160913654720&CWDCSID=3770&BPID=4602

BT STEREO is GREAT .. but newer ROMs lock it to WMP
I have the i-tech r35 clip and love it. What is nice is that is has PREV Play/Spot and REV D-pad. With Tcpmp these can be programed. I don't go backwards so I set the "prev" key to skip 10 seconds... that way I can speed through the commercials and anouncements of the podcasts.
Unfortunately since I flashed a newer ROM, anythime I press any button on the CLIP the Audiomanager is launched. I want to use COREplayer. Anyone know how to disable AudioManager form automatically coming up? Thanks!!

I propose You the set Bluetooth sony ericsson DS-220. You have the possibility of connecting to him any receivers. The very good solution.

Try Motorola HT820. I use it on my Wizard and have't noticed any problem.

I use the sony DRBT21G. they include a built in battery have a microphone. links very well with windows mobile with a audio players and with the phone software. it rings through the headphones also. they are extremely comfortable. tbh I think they are a perfect solution. my favourite gadget when it comes to my diamond. well apart from the diamond itself.
aaron

Jaybird JB-200
I just posted this http://www.jaybirdgear.com/ in another thread and same as I said there just havent been able to suck up and lay out the cash yet. However, just about every review of them says they fit the bill very nicely.
Rod

Bluetooh would be the best feature for this particular reason....yay!

maybe you should try out the Plantronics Pulsar (590A or 590E)
its a stereo headset using either bluetooth or a 3,5mm plug. but using a cable you can only listen to music...
the 590A comes with a small bluetooth sending unit so use with every mp3 player with a 3,5mm port
i'm using mine with my htc kaiser on the go, battery lasts for about 12 hours. theres also a charging cable for usb ports, a cradle, a wall plug and a carrying case with included.
The soundquality is very very good in stereo mode, if you receive a call, it stops the music and switches the bluetooth profile to handsfree device.
You can controll your music player on your touch hd and also activate voice dial etc.
it's even better to use it at home with the pc and skype best combination