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Hi. Are there actually any ported ROMs for the Uni that allows a super-clean (i.e. purely Microsoft) WM5? Thanks.
This is exactly what i am here at the Forum for please someone step up?
Cause i foudn one in general by name one time but im not sure if they are shapped for the Universal
I guess to clarify ...
A Clean version of WM5 shapped for the Uni if possible
I want to amke sure i do not lose any features
Please help thanks
rightnow im on the newest qtek but is actign weird so im going back to my orignal imate
don't install the extended ROM...
Can you explain SIMPLY which file is the extended ROM?
philby said:
Can you explain SIMPLY which file is the extended ROM?
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What "ady" meant was:
1st: Install Buzz's Ext ROM Unlocker and unlock your Ext ROM.
2nd: Cut and paste them to your SD Card and save a copy on your computer for backup.
3rd: Perform a hard reset. Since you already took off the Ext ROM, you now have a pure Microsoft OS running on your device.
To answer your question, the Ext ROM is what you see being installed when you perform a hard reset. It is indicated by a progress bar during installation after a hard reset. The Ext ROM contains the customizations provided by the "Brand" name of your device.
The simpliest way to avoid the installation of the Ext ROM, if you don't want to unlock it is:
1st: Perform a hard reset.
2nd: "IMMEDIATELY" perform a soft reset by pressing the reset pin as soon as you see the "Microsoft Today Screen". By doing this, the installation of the Ext ROM is by-passed.
If you are going to ask me where to find the Unlocker. Just do a search. Hope this cleared it up.
Thanks for the excellent reply. Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents? I am guessing this would be like selecting a corporate install on the O2 XDA EXEC?? Thanks again for any reply.
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Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents?
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Any customisations your operator has made. It's hard to say what exactly as that changes per ExtROM (and each new version of Windows Mobile by each operator has a new ExtROM so...)
If you don't install the ExtRom you have plain Windows Mobile, if you install the Extended ROM (which it will be default) it adds patches, customisations (backgrounds, sounds, GPRS settings etc), button configurations, home page settings, add icons, remove icons, custom programs etc.
My advise is to read the wiki (link in top left) open up your ExtendedROM as the poster above advised and then customise it how you want, or just by pass it completely each time and add in what you want manually.
philby said:
Thanks for the excellent reply. Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents? I am guessing this would be like selecting a corporate install on the O2 XDA EXEC?? Thanks again for any reply.
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xanth is absolutely right. The Ext ROM changes with each "Brand". I am attacching a link for the O2 Ext ROM explanation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32527
Some applications in the Ext ROM, you can deduce what it is made for like "default_Backgamon etc...(which installs the game backgamon in Imate Ext ROM) and some are similar to O2's, so let it be your guide.
why
you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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Actually ALL WORKS FINE with a clean install, as mentioned above, the only thing you might have to add is the settings for MMS, and video call capabilities. But ALL SOFTWARES INSTALLED WORKS. From BT to WiFi, camera app, voice dial, etc... I know because I already tried it.
Re: why
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you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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Well that depends on the base Windows Mobile ROM. Some will have some features, while some won't (won't fit possibly?) and would require the ExtROM to install them.
I appreciate this is a Universal thread, but one example is the BlueAngel. The SX66 doesn't come with a camera so it's ROM doesn't contain camera software and if you used that on a regular BlueAngel (XDA IIs for example) you'd need to install the camera software seperately.
Hope this actually makes sense.
what about a real clean ROM...
i mean a ROM that does not contain any of those "dog barking" junks media files and themes (there is around 8MB of these), as well as unnecessary EXTROM files. YET sparing drivers for camera, bluetooth , and other crucial drivers.
thanx
go it
then you are correct to hard reset then soft reset before your device wants to load the ext-rom
unnecessary media files are not in the ext rom
they come with the winows folder and the my doc. they r more than 8mb , and they serving for NOTHING... so stopping the erom wont save you from them
So, some of you have this error, some dont. So lets try and figure it out. Heres what we know.
The problem affects ALL Artemis WM6 ROMS.
Remember, the issue doesnt appear when just using it normally. Its only under certain circumstances. Heres how you re-create the problem.
Run Tomtom, this causes the error90% of the time.
Create a new word document and try to save anywhere.
Heres my setup and what ive tried to fix it.
Device: MDA Compact III
SD Card: 1gb
Ive tried font cache size, system cache, removing the memory card.
Please dont post "I dont get the error" if you havnt tried running tomtom or saving a word document.
Thanks
To add to the problem re-creation, I was trying to copy a directory with around 15 files in it from the internal memory to the storage card, the message just kept popping up for all the duration of the copy process, I stoppped clicking ok eventually. I looked at the free program mempry available then and it was pretty good at around 22mb.
Device: Orbit XDA
SD Card: 1gb
I too have noticed that looking at the free storage space seems to fix it for tomtom (but not word). There is something else wrong with Excel in that the "Save As" is in the wrong place, infact where it is isnt actually save as.
You're right, I haven't noticed this before with excel. I can't remember if it was like this before, was it? It won't be easy figuring this little memory issue out. I hope someone has a trick up their sleeves.
I have the WM6 emulator running on my pc and the excel thing isnt there. Comparing the registry settings on the emulator with my device. I would love to hear if anyone does actually have Word working without issue.
BREAKTHROUGH!
OK. I installed the original Orbit rom and... IT WORKS!!!! So the question is what did bepe and the guys do when they de-branded it? The orbit rom has an Ext-Rom with a load of branded stuff PLUS! some patches. I bet one of these patches fixes the issue!
These custom roms have NO Ext-Rom at all, hence the increased storage space. however in the process of removing the ext rom they have managed to cause these memory errors.
So guys, any chance of a rom close to the Orbit rom but with the English language and Ext rom left in tack?
Great work mate, it is the removal/merging of the extended rom that's causing the problem then. Maybe it's not even a patch in the extended rom, maybe it's the way the extended rom was merged that's causing it. This surely deserves more looking into.
Great breakthrough
Word FIX!
Thanks to pvdhelm for the tip on this one. Attached is a patch to fix the memory issue with word (and only word). To fix it for other apps you need to view the memory in the control panel and click on "Storage Card". The word fix is pernament but the other memory issue it only until you reset your phone.
Absolutely brilliant, so it looks like missing registry entries!! We need to find out what was in the original extended rom then to find out if we're missing anything else. Looks like only me and you here, you should post this fix in the main threads mate.
Cheers and well done.
I have a copy of the rom, tried isntalling it all but to no avail. It looks like on boot up the system thinks it has a different ammount of ram due to the ext rom being merged. By displaying the ammount of storage it realises it has a different ammount and fixes it. Until the next reboot. So if anyone knows what changes when you view the storage that may be fixing it I would love to know.
Or if somone can make a rom with the ext rom still in place.
EDIT: Heres one just for the MDA Compact III without WiFi users. It applys the Word memory errror fix but also fixes the Comm Manager issue and does so just for the MDA as it removes WiFi from the list.
Maybe this is a clue for you all. I have never had these errors, ands I use Tomtom daily and have tested word for you again with no fault.
The difference? Well I upgraded to WM6.0 the original way before USPL patch and flashed the OS only. I'm assuming you with problems used the ROM installer method. Am I right with my assumption? If so that should narrow down the culprit.
I used Bepes original WM6 WWE OS only upgrade, therefore the Ext ROM on my device is still the old T-Mobile WM5 one and was simply not allowed to run. So it can't be right to assume there is something missing from an EXT ROM patch.
It's most certainly the extended rom being merged then, there's nothing else to it.
gajet, can you give me the exact steps you took. I went from the T-Mobile rom to Black and blue then to the others. I uses USPL first though.
Can you give me a quick set of steps you took i.e Original T-Mobile rom, then ran USPL, then updated to Bepes.
Also, if you used bepe's can you also tell me which rom update util you used? as the one ive tried has errors at the end.
Thanks
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I have a copy of the rom, tried isntalling it all but to no avail. It looks like on boot up the system thinks it has a different ammount of ram due to the ext rom being merged. By displaying the ammount of storage it realises it has a different ammount and fixes it. Until the next reboot. So if anyone knows what changes when you view the storage that may be fixing it I would love to know.
Or if somone can make a rom with the ext rom still in place.
EDIT: Heres one just for the MDA Compact III without WiFi users. It applys the Word memory errror fix but also fixes the Comm Manager issue and does so just for the MDA as it removes WiFi from the list.
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VERY interesting reading!
If you move this thread, please drop a link on here for us, thanks. The first one to crack this problem will be worshipped from afar I am sure!!
I think it could be an order of upgrade issue, heres the latest.
1. Downgraded to T-Mobile WM5 rom
2. Ran USPL
3. Upgraded to Bepe WM6 using the EXE version
The word issue is no longer there but the out of memory in Tomtom is. Also no ext rom.
It would be good to know from others and gajet what steps they took and which files they uses to do it. Especially as gajet still has his extended rom.
I've tried:
official t-mobile wm5 to german wm6 to bepe uspl &
official t-mobile wm5 to bepe uspl
Both times I have had the error with tomtom but no problems with word.
Both times temp fix (looking at storage) worked (sorry about font cache red herring - thought I was onto something there).
Just tied chi-tai extended battery plugin with the storage showing on the homepage (as a way to force system to get correct memory) but no joy.
I have htc touch com manager and phone skin but not the home plugin.
Cheers
Matt
I think Ive cracked it. Just doing some final testing but watch out for a new "How to" thread.
go Danny go.
Look forward to seeing it.
Will test and report back once you've posted.
Cheers
Matt
Sadly the original thread was edited to reflect the OS update was repackaged but eddie2k still goes on the reexplain the process in this thread.
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then use winrar to unpack the (bepe) wm6 wwe rom in this page (written in red). flashed using bootloader method.
after u get german rom installed , run ARTE os flash utility from xda ftp (log in properly) link don't work if not logon properly..
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Artemis/arte.zip unpack
copy os.nb from first folder (bepe) wwe rom to arte folder and rename os.nb to windows.nb then run UpgradeRom.bat
hard reset, soft reset done.
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Now I didn't bother installing the german O2 release as my MDACIII was CID locked, so I just used ARTE package with Bepes WM6 .nb renamed and flashed the OS only, then after hard resetting, at the point of about to load EXT ROM soft reset.
This thread was also the guide although you could skip the process of extracting the .os from a ROM package as Bepe originally provided us with the raw windows.nb file.
Thanks gajet, Ive just posted the steps. Your post was deffinatly the key. Once I saw you still had your ext rom I knew we could do it.
Answer is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313486
I tried to upgrade my dopod 900 this morning from WM5 to WM6.1 using a file i downloaded here at xda. Looks like i got things wrong. After following screen instructions, and finally clicking on the FINISH button, my dopod's screen says Not For G4... I tried to hard reset, etc... But to no avail. This is my first time to do an upgrade..... What do i do now ? Could i still fix my dopod?
Welcome to forums
You have to flash a ROM what is compatible with G4 Universal
Have a look on my signature to select one.
Good luck,
thanx orb...
i also read and did the Mamaich method in the sticky... afterwards i got more confident flashing my rom knowing i cud still bring it to life again. hehe
i'll check other rom's and post some comments from a newbie's point of view...thanx! am learning........
No prob mate
We all were noobs sometime
Hi! I am new here. I have the same unit (Dopod 900). It runs in wm5. My question is can I Flash it from wm5 to wm6.5? Thanks!
Welcome to forums
Yes you can, just go to my signature link and follow instructions on how to upgrade your ROM, you can go to WM 6, 6.1 or even 6.5
Here is my device info:
RAM size: 64 MB
Flash size 128 MB
Flash Chip type: G3
Data bus: 32 bits
It is my first time flashing a device. So I am digging all the info available. But I must admit I need help for I don't understand most of the terms and the things needed to be done in order to flash succesfully.
For instance, do I need to update my activesync before getting unto the procedure? Or are there any one who can give me a link for the instructions for newb. Thanks!
Uni 64 Mb - upgrading from MW5 to ???, only looking for more available memory
Hi all,
yep, still happy with my 2006 model Jasjar . Hard to resist a good offer on a used HD2, but am sticking to my Uni !!
As you can see in my signature I am still running the factory ROM. The only thing that I have been missing so far is push email and the security tools that come with that like remote erase etc... . But that was something I could live without.
I am pretty pleased with the software I am running. Only iGo8 is very demanding and freezes when things get to rough. But other then that, happy. Until recently. I installed SPB shell to get a more updated look and feel, and a few new apps that have fingerstyle and scrolling/flipping effects. Now I see my Uni is getting memory problems. With no apps open, only SPB shell running I have :
Storage: Total 43,50, in use: 36,34, Free: 7.16
Program: Total 50,16, in use: 39,71, Free 10:45
I have cleaned out my phone to the max to free Storage. Deleted all sms'es, and moved all pictures and videos to the SD card. Ran 2 programs to free up memory.
Program memory is decreasing to 6 or 7 when launching f.ex. youtubeplay, SPB TV, Opera, or any type of graphics game.
Conclusion is that I like the look and feel of my Uni, but it looks like I need more memory. I could upgrade from 64 to 128, but that is something I consider as a last way out. That is, if I can find a new OS that frees up enough memory on both Storage and Program. I found soem comments on WM6.1 where some say this is the best solution when all you need is more memory. But if true, how much improvement can this bring? Or are there any basic WM6.5 images out there that suite my needs better then WM6.1?
I have been reading about some of the 6.5 ROMs, and it looks like there are still all with a certain risk of failure at a certain point. My curent ROM is working great, no hick ups. so I would like to keep it that way ;-). Please your opinion.
I did some reading up on how to flash. As it is said, I need to have a copy of my ROM with WM5 in case things go wrong. But I have no idea where to find a copy of my working ROM. But I found some info on making a dums:
http://buzzdev.org/how-to/universal-how-to-d2s-dump-the-rom/
Is this what I am looking for? Does this meanthat if I dump the files on my SD, I'm good?
Looking forward to start flashing! I hope somebody can help me getting started. I guess I first need to clarify the ROM backup. Then I need to make sure I know what NOT to do to avoid bricking my Uni, and last but not least, have a working routing to flash back to my old ROM.
Maybe a few more question for now:
- If I flash to a new ROM, do I need to reïnstall all data, contacts, programs etc?
- Are the Scandinavian letters/alphabet included in all new ROMs?
- Not sure if this is a WM5 limitation, but before I had a 2 Gb SD, and could store my pictures directly on SD, as default location in my camera app. But after upgrading to a 16Gb, this is not working (ironicly "not enough memory"). Looks like the camera app is not supporting 16 Gb. Have been reading about a 4 Gb limitation. Will this be better in newer ROMs?
If you want performance and free RAM try going to WM6.1 (I recommend Tomal 8.2 and 8.5), WM6.5 is not causing problems at least for me but is indeed slower than 6.1
- Yes, you need to reinstall all
- Not all, try checking my sig link and read the thread of the desired ROM
- Again, check my sig link to get working SD cards
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- If I flash to a new ROM, do I need to reïnstall all data, contacts, programs etc?
- Are the Scandinavian letters/alphabet included in all new ROMs?
- Not sure if this is a WM5 limitation, but before I had a 2 Gb SD, and could store my pictures directly on SD, as default location in my camera app. But after upgrading to a 16Gb, this is not working (ironicly "not enough memory"). Looks like the camera app is not supporting 16 Gb. Have been reading about a 4 Gb limitation. Will this be better in newer ROMs?
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@orb3000
I have been reading the thread from Things 6.1 ROM. Looks like I am going to give that one a try. To start with anyway.
About my data. SPB backup has a backup of PIM data, emails and documents. I assume I can use the exe file to restore that after I upgraded the ROM, yes?
about the SD card. I think you misunderstood ;-). My 16 Gb is working, no prob. It is only the camera app that does not want to store it there. If I change the path to my SD, I get a memory error. But I can install apps on it, store data on it, transfer data from my PC to it etc. So most likely itis the camera app, that is from 2006 or earlier, that is not capable on dealing with 16 Gb cards. Just wanted to check if somebody else has the same problem.
Thanks for the reply. I will do some reading on the howto ROM section. Just need to figure out how to get a restorable copy of my current ROM, just in case.
Until Now, I'm still afraid to flash my Dopod 900
Hi! Guys it's been quite a while since I read and read about how to flash my device but until now, I can't find the courage to do so.
Is there someone who can tell me that it is ok to flash my dopod 900?
It is ok to do it!
I flashed my Uni one week after I got it back in 2005 and since then have flashed so many times that I´ve lost count, as long as you follow the instructions all should be ok.
On my sig link there is a good tut on how to
Don´t be afraid! you´ll see the goodness of having a cooked ROM from our great Chefs i XDA
I have a complete backup a little over 1 week old of my previous i-Mate PDA2k which holds over 10 years of appointments, contacts, etc. which I migrated from device to device over the years. My backup was made with the x-Backup application to an external memory card and the file CompactFlashBackUpNew has 97.2 mb. This device had the original rom and the operating system in English.It was purchased in 12/2004.
Last week I lost this PDA2K in a taxi so I shopped around (in Brazil) for a similar used device and was able to find a QTEK 9090, unfortunately no PDA2K showed up. This device has the original rom but the operating system is in Portuguese (rom version 1.40.15 PTB 3/11/2005). When I start the restore from the external memory card I notice that required space says 100299.17 KB (this looks ok) but the available space says 64396 KB which is of course much less. Since the device has 128 mb ram it's strange. I checked the memory settings and it shows that it has 125.77 mb main memory. I found with the old PDA2K that you can't really trust x-Backup, especially the percentages on the progress bar, so I went ahead anyway.
My problem is that after the restore finishes, the device doesn't work because no applications can run, not even the file manager. Just the configurations work.
I noticed in the configuration system screen that some icons are in English and some in Portuguese so my hunch is that both versions of the OS are there together and so take up much more room. I also tried to restore using the option "only contacts and appointments" but in this case the "start" button is disabled and the required and available space information says "none". However if I try to make a backup only of contacts and appointments it lets me do it. So right now I'm wondering hos to get my data back.
I thouhgt of flashing a rom in English but would like to avoid that if possible since it might also not help.
Any ideas of how I could go about restoring my backup?
I also have a QTEK s9100 (OS in Portuguese) available but on this one there is no x-Backup because it has a completely different version of Windows so that's the reason I went for the 9090.
Thanks.
Hi experts,
I had a luca16thebig wm6.1-rom flashed a few weeks ago, it worked quite well. Then I decided to flash the latest T-Mobile-Original-fullrom (radio,os-wm5,ext), because I wanted the updated radio and it was german and I was curious about it. After flashing my Universal (64mb) didn't start (dark, nothing). I flashed then the latest orig. O2-Rom, that worked without any problems. Because it was english and a little bit outdated. I flashed t-mobile again, but this time without the radio, this time it started without problems. After that I unlocked the extended-rom. What I first realized was, that the content of the storage and the extrom was nearly the same, same as if the extrom was mapped on the storage. I deleted then the cabs in the storage and apparently those deleted cabs where still in the extrom, at least from totalcommanders view. After a few minutes my universal crashed and after restart, I saw only hyroglyphs, directories and files with special-characters in storage and extrom, even after hard-reset. I flashed then the luca16thebig-rom again which has an extrom by itself, but the corrupted storage stayed the same. Only after flashing the extrom-only from t-mobile, storage and extrom became available again.
My questions now:
1) How could this corruption happen ?
2) What is the relation of storage to extrom ?
3) Why is with a full rom-flash the extrom not overwritten ?
4) Is the location and size of extrom in all roms the same ?
5) Is there a way to "format" storage or ext-rom?
btw.I read about a mtty-command task 28 to format the device. Is it adviced to apply this command before every flash?
to clear the ext-rom, flash the attached. hope this 'clears' things up for you!
Thanks Jonny, nice to have you around Uni section