I was on the fence about buying the 3600 when I read of many people having problems with the screens going out, system slowing down when touching the screen, and the metal peeling, slow performance, ect. I didn't realize that there was a new one, 3600i. Has anyone had any similar issues with it? How is it compared to the 3600 as far as reliability? I believe this would be my perfect device if it just supported SDHC.
shawndh said:
I was on the fence about buying the 3600 when I read of many people having problems with the screens going out, system slowing down when touching the screen, and the metal peeling, slow performance, ect. I didn't realize that there was a new one, 3600i. Has anyone had any similar issues with it? How is it compared to the 3600 as far as reliability? I believe this would be my perfect device if it just supported SDHC.
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The P3600i does support SDHC, at least to 4Gb. Can't test higher capacity mini-SDHC cards yet, not available here.
Oh, BTW, the Quick Fix GPS cab file does work, despite the "placebo" sceptics. Tested exhaustively now for 4 weeks. It downloads ephemeris data from http://www.htcusainc.com/clm as packedEphemeris.ee for NMEA mode. This is exactly, precisely, the same data file for SirfIII GPS in NMEA mode.
TTFF is now 30-60 seconds. Before, 5-10 mins, about which I had justifiable criticism.
Regional setting HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\region
needs to be correct. I'm using AU for obvious reasons.
The P3600i is now in my view as close to perfection as I may wish.
ROM and RAM higher than 3600,so I think the speed will be higher and stable when run large program.for example,Map guide,etc.
Ian,
I am surprised to ear that P3600 support SDHC 4Go because i bought mine 2 weeks ago and before buying a mini SD i put the question to HTC and got this answer:
Dear Sir,
Unfortunately the HTC P3600 does not support the mini-SDHC format cards, only standard mini-SD. The maximum size you are able to use in the device is 2GB.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
So i was just prepared to buy a 2GB mini SD, can you confirm that a 4GB SDHC works on a long term basis?
About quickGPS do we have to launch it only every 7 days and nothing else than starting normaly our GPS software (tomtom)? I tried qGPS but i do not see any difference in the fixing time after starting tomtom.
My p3600 Italian version supports SDHC. I'm using a 4GB right now.
8Gb sdhc
Hi!
I using 8Gb micro sdhc card with minisd adapter, and it's work in my p3600.
frenchflyer said:
Ian,
I am surprised to ear that P3600 support SDHC 4Go because i bought mine 2 weeks ago and before buying a mini SD i put the question to HTC and got this answer:
Dear Sir,
Unfortunately the HTC P3600 does not support the mini-SDHC format cards, only standard mini-SD. The maximum size you are able to use in the device is 2GB.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
So i was just prepared to buy a 2GB mini SD, can you confirm that a 4GB SDHC works on a long term basis?
About quickGPS do we have to launch it only every 7 days and nothing else than starting normaly our GPS software (tomtom)? I tried qGPS but i do not see any difference in the fixing time after starting tomtom.
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There is the P3600 according to HTC and the P3600 according to XDA-Developers.
The P3600 according to HTC: WM5, no SDHC, and 4GB-Mini-SD (without HC) is not really a standard so nobody will assure compatibility.
The P3600 according to XDA: WM6, SDHC-compatible due to a new driver.
Beware: There are a lot of different flavours of WM6, as they are built by different persons, not directly by HTC. Their reliability is very different, read the threads to judge whether a built is more shiny, more stable or both.
QuickGPS does not work on the P3600, the standard rule is valid: Don't move until you get a fix. You might save up to 10 minutes.
Have fun!
everybody is talking about sdhc cards, but i dont see anywhere to put it into mt htc 3300, can you explain me?
if you find the place where you put in microSD cards that the same place you put in microSDHC cards
and 8go microsdhc card exist?? woaaa, that miraculus, but a question remain, what is the advantage of the ipod on ours artemis?? maybe the design... what else?
Hi,
Oh yeah, this time next year, you'll be seeing 32 GB microSDHC cards. The best is yet to come!
Thanks to BEPE, we are now able to use microSDHC cards on our Artemis and now, there's nothing stopping us from watching full-motion pictures, lasting three to four hours on our device. Oh yessssssssss!!!!
One more thing - our HTC Artemis has a built-in GPS receiver and you can do lots and lots of things with it, including:
1. Tracking your position live on Google Earth, so that friends and family all over the world could see where you are
2. Tracking your valuable assets against theft, eg. car, mobile phone
3. Flying - you can load VFR charts in it and fly your aircraft (I mean real aeroplanes), assuming that you are a pilot.
4. Navigation maps - such as TomTom can be installed for road navigation. Just imagine being able to know well advance, as to where the speed cameras are located.
5. You have access to a host of software - lots and lots of them about, for the Windows Mobile platform, unlike the iPod.
6. ....and the list goes on and on...., including the availability of support from this great Forum, ROMS, tweaks, warez, etc.
The iPod is over-hyped. It has no advantage whatsoever, over our Artemis, except maybe, the speed of the processor.
kiwi992.
I'm serious about my portable music and am trying to find the best combination of Xperia phone and SD to match an iPod Classic in file transfer speed and audio quality but I'm mostly concerned with data transfer for now.
I'm using a class 4 32GB Sandisk and want to shoot myself :crying:
My iPod Classic laughs at the speed. :crying:
Anyone using a Class 10 or any kind of Ultra SD? How's that going? Do you own/owned any portable music devices like an iPod to compare with? All I know is my Classic can transfer at least 1 song per second, usually more, with over 32GBs of music that's great or if just transferring my newest 30 songs. With my class 4 SD in my Xperia it takes about 4-5 seconds per song and I would prefer to bounce it off the wall :fingers-crossed: :good:
I'm planning to get the Xperia Sola and upgrading my SD, (upgrading headphones after that) but I'm just looking for feedback?
SharpnShiny said:
I'm serious about my portable music and am trying to find the best combination of Xperia phone and SD to match an iPod Classic in file transfer speed and audio quality but I'm mostly concerned with data transfer for now.
I'm using a class 4 32GB Sandisk and want to shoot myself :crying:
My iPod Classic laughs at the speed. :crying:
Anyone using a Class 10 or any kind of Ultra SD? How's that going? Do you own/owned any portable music devices like an iPod to compare with? All I know is my Classic can transfer at least 1 song per second, usually more, with over 32GBs of music that's great or if just transferring my newest 30 songs. With my class 4 SD in my Xperia it takes about 4-5 seconds per song and I would prefer to bounce it off the wall :fingers-crossed: :good:
I'm planning to get the Xperia Sola and upgrading my SD, (upgrading headphones after that) but I'm just looking for feedback?
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Use a microSD USB adapter or SDcard adapter to get 10Mb/s, if I do use the usb cable the speed is like 2mb/s
I use a Samsung Class 10 32GB SD and the speeds are very Good.
SharpnShiny said:
I'm serious about my portable music and am trying to find the best combination of Xperia phone and SD to match an iPod Classic in file transfer speed and audio quality but I'm mostly concerned with data transfer for now.
I'm using a class 4 32GB Sandisk and want to shoot myself :crying:
My iPod Classic laughs at the speed. :crying:
Anyone using a Class 10 or any kind of Ultra SD? How's that going? Do you own/owned any portable music devices like an iPod to compare with? All I know is my Classic can transfer at least 1 song per second, usually more, with over 32GBs of music that's great or if just transferring my newest 30 songs. With my class 4 SD in my Xperia it takes about 4-5 seconds per song and I would prefer to bounce it off the wall :fingers-crossed: :good:
I'm planning to get the Xperia Sola and upgrading my SD, (upgrading headphones after that) but I'm just looking for feedback?
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I don't get it. What's so bad about class 4 microSD cards? I use Sandisk 16GB Class 4 aswell, I don't cry about lag, because I don't have it. Transferring songs isn't that slow, I don't do it often either so no problems with it.
Or is it just that people keep wanting more and more?
Someguyfromhell said:
I don't get it. What's so bad about class 4 microSD cards? I use Sandisk 16GB Class 4 aswell, I don't cry about lag, because I don't have it. Transferring songs isn't that slow, I don't do it often either so no problems with it.
Or is it just that people keep wanting more and more?
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Is it just that people don't read entire posts?
As I posted above already, the issue is that I've been using various dedicated media devices for years which have consistently performed at far higher data transfer speeds. I'll say it again:
I have 32GB of music, if I transfer with an Apple device it transfers at least 1 song per second. For a large music collection, it does this very quickly as you can see. If I'm transferring the newest 20 or 30 songs in my collection, it does that in about 30 35 seconds.
If I asked my last phone or my current Android phone to do this, it takes about 4-5 seconds to transfer ONE song (or podcast). Whether it's a few minutes for just a few songs, or a few hours to transfer my whole collection, it's terrible performance and tedious.
Which brings me to my question about data speeds. I'm sure someone suggested before that it could be partly Apple cables being designed for optimum transfer speeds. I completely forgot about SD classes though, and I found the Sandisk Class 10 Ultra transfer up to 30mbps. I checked on eBay and they are not that expensive - about €30 for for 32GB. I'll get that soon and report back!
p.s. I just asked Sony about this and they said they've tested classes 2 and 4 with their phones and said that a class 10 will likely not work with their phones so not to purchase! Hmm. Mind you, many people here have bought 64GB SD cards when Sony said 32GB is the highest that you should use. I'll find someone here using a class 10!
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Is it just that people don't read entire posts?
As I posted above already, the issue is that I've been using various dedicated media devices for years which have consistently performed at far higher data transfer speeds. I'll say it again:
I have 32GB of music, if I transfer with an Apple device it transfers at least 1 song per second. For a large music collection, it does this very quickly as you can see. If I'm transferring the newest 20 or 30 songs in my collection, it does that in about 30 35 seconds.
If I asked my last phone or my current Android phone to do this, it takes about 4-5 seconds to transfer ONE song (or podcast). Whether it's a few minutes for just a few songs, or a few hours to transfer my whole collection, it's terrible performance and tedious.
Which brings me to my question about data speeds. I'm sure someone suggested before that it could be partly Apple cables being designed for optimum transfer speeds. I completely forgot about SD classes though, and I found the Sandisk Class 10 Ultra transfer up to 30mbps. I checked on eBay and they are not that expensive - about €30 for for 32GB. I'll get that soon and report back!
p.s. I just asked Sony about this and they said they've tested classes 2 and 4 with their phones and said that a class 10 will likely not work with their phones so not to purchase! Hmm. Mind you, many people here have bought 64GB SD cards when Sony said 32GB is the highest that you should use. I'll find someone here using a class 10!
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One of the problems - the chip. Phone's motherboard and it's transfer speed. It takes a longer 'distance' for the data to travel - from the computer, through the cable, through the chip, onto the SD.
Apple devices don't use SD cards, they have built-in memory chips, which have a lot faster r/w speeds, also they use the full max speed of USB 2.0(35 megabytes per second), microUSB has a bit lower rate of speed, and certain compression to transfer faster, which doesn't happen on other devices.
On the internet, there are sometimes written only maximum speeds(like you said - up to). The Class shows only minimum speed, Class 10 having minimum of 10 MB/s for write operation.
Android devices are not the same as Apple. Everything can't be the same, because it has been built different.
And FYI, I did read the whole post.
Thank you very much for explaining that :fingers-crossed: - that was exactly the extra kind of detail I wanted to understand the technology better - which in turn allows me to make better purchases.
What is roughly speaking, the best performance you can achieve with Android using an SD? What is the best performance a micro-USB can provide? On my new laptop, I made sure to get a USB 3.0 port but I'm guessing I won't be able to use that with Android until compatible devices are released. Devices with on-board storage as large as I'd like are uncommon and very expensive, so SD it is. Would a class 10 SD be the best you could get? I would be happy with a slight decrease in Apple-type performance, but 1 song every 4-5 seconds is too bad. Essentially, what I'm trying to do is to integrate my phone and media player in one device, without paying a fortune for an iPhone.
I just found this thread with some of the same intention: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674373
Perhaps, better micro USB cable such as: http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=4989 + class 10 SD = mission kind of accomplished?
SharpnShiny said:
Thank you very much for explaining that :fingers-crossed: - that was exactly the extra kind of detail I wanted to understand the technology better - which in turn allows me to make better purchases.
What is roughly speaking, the best performance you can achieve with Android using an SD? What is the best performance a micro-USB can provide? On my new laptop, I made sure to get a USB 3.0 port but I'm guessing I won't be able to use that with Android until compatible devices are released. Devices with on-board storage as large as I'd like are uncommon and very expensive, so SD it is. Would a class 10 SD be the best you could get? I would be happy with a slight decrease in Apple-type performance, but 1 song every 4-5 seconds is too bad. Essentially, what I'm trying to do is to integrate my phone and media player in one device, without paying a fortune for an iPhone.
I just found this thread with some of the same intention: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674373
Perhaps, better micro USB cable such as: http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=4989 + class 10 SD = mission kind of accomplished?
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A 32GB Class 10 SDHC is the largest and fastest kind of SD card compatible with Arc/Arc S. Some people have had luck with larger cards, but officially SDXC isn't supported on 2011 Xperia phones.
Phones currently don't support USB 3.0 as they don't have the processing power or data bandwidth to support USB 3.0 transfer speeds. You're hard pressed to find anything that maxes out USB 2.0 apart from dedicated storage - the two devices that exceed USB 2.0 speeds that I own are an external hard drive and a card reader that I use with high-speed CompactFlash. I usually get 10MB/s writes using this with my Class 10 MicroSD.
To be honest, trying to write at high speeds through the phone's system is an exercise in futility - just get a good card reader, it doesn't have to be a USB 3.0 model (which are usually rather expensive and aimed at photographers) as SDHC maxes out around 10-12MB/s writes anyway.
I got a 32 GB class 10 card with my phone when I got it. I move all apps to SD as much as possible, and also listen to a lot of music. I also take a lot of pictures and videos. So for me it was just calculated in as part of the cost of the phone when I bought it - it was a no-brainer.
Daniel75 said:
I got a 32 GB class 10 card with my phone when I got it. I move all apps to SD as much as possible, and also listen to a lot of music. I also take a lot of pictures and videos. So for me it was just calculated in as part of the cost of the phone when I bought it - it was a no-brainer.
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You lucky thing, a 32GB class 10 SD with the phone? Hah that's great. Well how do you like the performance?
My plan is: new phone with excellent audio tech+class 10 SD+great earphones=very happy me. I'll have the phone next week, finally.
So I have a 32 GB Class 6 and runs well
YEs i used 32GB class 10 in my neo v, but you always to fomrat it when you put it in your device
I've a 16 gb class 10 Samsung sd, and run's fine whithout problems.
My SanDisk Ultra microSDHC 16GB Class 10 run's fine 15mb/s with usb cable (usb2.0)
-Andi- said:
My SanDisk Ultra microSDHC 16GB Class 10 run's fine 15mb/s with usb cable (usb2.0)
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Well I have the same card, and I never managed to cross 7MB/s, with large files, music or videos. Not on my old system, not on my new system. Not on Windows XP, not on Ubuntu, not on Windows 7. Not on 6 different USB ports on my old system, and not on 8 USB ports on my new system. Two different USB cables are tested also.
So I'm really curious to know how could anyone manage to get 15MB/s with this phone.
Do you mind to post screenshot while transferring data at 15MB/s?
My 16 Gb class 10 sd transfer speed
FYI, file transferred using Sony usb cable to a USB 2.0 port.
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FYI, file transferred using Sony usb cable to a USB 2.0 port.
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Well, FYI, I guess we are all using Sony USB cable.
However, this is great transfer rate, I never managed to achieve.
And thanks for screenshot.
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Well, FYI, I guess we are all using Sony USB cable.
However, this is great transfer rate, I never managed to achieve.
And thanks for screenshot.
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Ok, i dont know if all you are really using Original Sony USB cable or one chinese and cheaper, due to a posible damage on original one, i only posted for info.
Check write/read speed, tested with Antutu benchmark.
Like I said earlier, card is SanDisk class 10, 16GB.
I'm using 32 GB Ultra High Speed (UHS-I) microSD, works fine
also i've got cute micro adaptor with it for fast downloading from PC
my AnTuTu scores 5624
My N7100 recently had many issues like loosing WiFi and Bluetooth devices (not just connections but devices!) with different ROM/kernels, even full stock no-root included.
After few hours to few days WiFi just disappeared and when I tried to turn it back on the settings slider just returned back to off. Same correct for BT.
Reboot and ROM flashing usually didn't help.
I had to turn the phone off for few hours, turn back on and both WiFi and BT reappeared. In a couple of days the same problem returned and so on.
I removed the Kingston 64/10 card used from the very first day and everything OK now for about a week.
I have to admit the Kingston microSD 64Gb class 10 (genuine, full 64Gb, verified) has issues with N7100.
Could you recommend me another 64/10 or better card know to be nice with N7100?
Thanks.
Don't go for sandisk... NEVER
I suggest a samsung one. .. worth the price
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Hm,I use a 16 GB Kingston...No issues at all.But I think the phone itself is defective in your case..Better call Sammy
I guess this is a sdxc and its possible that the note 2 doesn't Support sdxc look in the Manual or Data sheet for supported sd cards ...
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I tried my old Samsung 32/10 and it works flawlessly. So it's not a Note 2 problem or at least not a kind of unfixable problem.
Regarding SDXC and SDHC I'm not sure. Is it so complicated difference?
Kingston 64/10 actually works more or less just having issues. Seems to me there is kind of short circuit for millisecond happen during SD access and it somehow locks radio modules BT & WiFi. 3G and GPS are fine. FM I didn't check...
I'm going for Samsung 64/10 or 64/super1 in a couple of months, not before...
so i just got my zenfone 2 in an hour ago (was letting it charge)
there is some info id really like to know as before it i only had a gsp l3 cheap 30$ from walmart and only used it for calling people
1. do we have a browser that supports java yet for say if i want to play pogo?
(and i already know about the pogo app)
2. is there anything for performance boosting that i should be aware of for this device?
(looking for any detail into performance over quality n flashy lights)
3. it IS better to let the phone drain rather than keeping it charged right?
4. is there an app that can increase the amount of apps i can have in my home bar?
(just one app and folders)
5. i bought the 64gb version... can i still add more? or is that the max capacity
(plan on adding roms/emulators so need all the space i can get)
6. is there an app that can use part of storage as a virtual ram?
(like a windows os..... not that 4gb isnt bad but never hurts to add 1gb of paging on a device )
ty to anyone that takes the time to read this -hugs-
AndroidObsession said:
so i just got my zenfone 2 in an hour ago (was letting it charge)
there is some info id really like to know as before it i only had a gsp l3 cheap 30$ from walmart and only used it for calling people
1. do we have a browser that supports java yet for say if i want to play pogo?
(and i already know about the pogo app)
2. is there anything for performance boosting that i should be aware of for this device?
(looking for any detail into performance over quality n flashy lights)
3. it IS better to let the phone drain rather than keeping it charged right?
4. is there an app that can increase the amount of apps i can have in my home bar?
(just one app and folders)
5. i bought the 64gb version... can i still add more? or is that the max capacity
(plan on adding roms/emulators so need all the space i can get)
6. is there an app that can use part of storage as a virtual ram?
(like a windows os..... not that 4gb isnt bad but never hurts to add 1gb of paging on a device )
ty to anyone that takes the time to read this -hugs-
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1.) Not that I know of.
2.) I use Greenify and the included Auto-Start Manager is actually quite handy (thanks Asus)
3.) Shouldn't make that much of a difference. I never put my phone down, so I have to charge it twice a day lol.
4.) Home bar? You can always use a different launcher other than the one that Asus provided. Personally, I like the ZenUI.
5.) SD cards up to 64GB are officially supported, though some users report using SD cards of 128 GB.
6.) You won't need it . I've never run out of RAM, and I multitask to the limit. Caching can use the storage as RAM, but its built in and works automatically.
3. Every once in a while you should cycle your battery....run it until shut off, then charge while the phone is off. While I don't this extends the batteries lifetime capabilities, in the past I have found it does help with daily endurance
thank you both for the info
128Gb cards do work in the zenfone 2, I tried the sandisk 128gb micro sd card. Waiting for the one I ordered to arrive as I had to put the other one back in my tablet...