ROM, Ext.Rom, Radio ... Difference?! - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading

Hello,
I just want to know what is the difference between ROM, Ext.ROM and Radio
I was checking imate site and found the new ROM which they say it's the original one but the Ext.ROM version in their site is newer than the one I have. The others (ROM, Radio) are the same.
Thats way I want to know the difference between these 3 things.
Thanks in advance

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WM6.1 ROMS - Why remove radio?

I have limited experience with ROM flashing - so please pardon this question if it is dumb. I have searched but have not found a good answer to this question.
I have flashed to the latest Kavana ROM, and find it excellent. However, I still have my original T-Mobile (WM6) Radio onboard.
Can someone explain why the ROMs are being built based on the latest Brightpoint ROM but are not including that Radio version. 03.07.90 I believe is the radio version.
I even saw in a Wi-Fi thread where Kavana had actually recommended to someone to install that Radio on top of his ROM - but yet it is not part of the ROM update.
Is there a reception issue with that radio? OR, is there a problem with flashing radio ROMs?
Thanks in advance.
To be honest, i used to wonder why too, but if you just want a ROM and don't want to change your radio version (in case you actually have no problems with your radio version) then that's why they are split. Some people have side effects sometimes after updating their radio version. And if all ROMS had a radio, then you'd be stuck with whatever radio it came with. Now with the official ROMS they do have a radio included (most of the time) but a lot of cooked ROMs will exclude the radio simply to focus on the functionality of the device , not necessarily the device's connectivity
liverpool:
if you don't like the tmobile radio (who doesn't right?)... you could just flash the latest wm6 rom by HTC which is way better than the tmo rom and slightly better (depending on who you ask) than the rogers rom... which will give you the latest radio, and then flash with kavana's rom to get wm6.1 on there.
you can flash just the radio... but i think i read someone say that it causes problems with kavana's rom so best to just flash the full HTC rom and then upgrade to 6.1 from there.
SirKeats said:
if you don't like the tmobile radio (who doesn't right?)... you could just flash the latest wm6 rom by HTC which is way better than the tmo rom and slightly better (depending on who you ask) than the rogers rom... which will give you the latest radio, and then flash with kavana's rom to get wm6.1 on there.
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Keats -- do you know what some of the updates to the radio are between the stock (v4.1.13.34_02.79.90 on mine) and the one included in the wm6 rom from HTC? When you say it's "better" -- how so? I have no problems with either GSM radio or wifi (though my signal strength was much better on ATT...)
not specifically. i think the radio differences just ammount to better reception in general. actual funtional differences have nothing to do with the radio and are specific to each rom.

Avantages of RUU HTC SPA...?¿

Hi everybody,
I'm really new in all this and maybe (sure) I'm asking something obvious.... but... if somebody could answer...
I've got a Diamond, not changed anything.
My ROM version is: 1.37.412.2 ESN
Radio version: 1.00.25.03
What are the advantages of installing
-Hard-SPL
-RUU_Diamond_HTC_SPA_1.37.412.2_Radio_Signed_Diamon d_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship (only one signet in spanish!)
If the ROM and Radio are the same version??
Thanks!!!
Sers,
yes, these are exactly the same versions of ROM & Radio.
regards
apinyot said:
Hi everybody,
I'm really new in all this and maybe (sure) I'm asking something obvious.... but... if somebody could answer...
I've got a Diamond, not changed anything.
My ROM version is: 1.37.412.2 ESN
Radio version: 1.00.25.03
What are the advantages of installing
-Hard-SPL
-RUU_Diamond_HTC_SPA_1.37.412.2_Radio_Signed_Diamon d_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship (only one signet in spanish!)
If the ROM and Radio are the same version??
Thanks!!!
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You can find both Rom version here
If you have the same version you don't have any advantage.
But, if you speak Spanish and your device English, you can try to install signed HARD-SPL by OliNex and after the signed ROM, or Unsigned Hard-SPL for developers and the UNsigned ROM (Oficial version).
Get Luck !
Yes, I could try an English ROM. But looking in the signed list, only two ROMs are newer than mine.
-RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.37.707.1_Radio_Signed_D iamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
-RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.37.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1. 00.25.03_Ship
First one I supose that is not in English and the second one, I really don't know the language but it's just 1.37.456 when mine is 1.37.412. Are there lots of changes between them? It's better to wait until a new version is released? where can I find the differences in each version?
What about the cooked and signed ROMs? These are the same as others but with some things out?
Thanks for your quick answer!!!
apinyot said:
Yes, I could try an English ROM. But looking in the signed list, only two ROMs are newer than mine.
-RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.37.707.1_Radio_Signed_D iamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
-RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.37.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1. 00.25.03_Ship
First one I supose that is not in English and the second one, I really don't know the language but it's just 1.37.456 when mine is 1.37.412. Are there lots of changes between them? It's better to wait until a new version is released? where can I find the differences in each version?
What about the cooked and signed ROMs? These are the same as others but with some things out?
Thanks for your quick answer!!!
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Both Roms are English. I don't know...there are several cooked roms now. Just try it and then use that likes you.
For differences you can look for in its corresponding thread.
Regards.
apinyot said:
Yes, I could try an English ROM. But looking in the signed list, only two ROMs are newer than mine.
-RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.37.707.1_Radio_Signed_D iamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
-RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.37.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1. 00.25.03_Ship
First one I supose that is not in English and the second one, I really don't know the language but it's just 1.37.456 when mine is 1.37.412. Are there lots of changes between them? It's better to wait until a new version is released? where can I find the differences in each version?
What about the cooked and signed ROMs? These are the same as others but with some things out?
Thanks for your quick answer!!!
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Sers again,
these version are not newer than yours and they are both english WWE (Wo
rld Wide English), ME only means signed for Middle Europe devices!
1.37.412.2 - first 3 digits are the main version 1.37 , next 3 are the regional code (i.e: 412 for Spain, 407 for German), and last one is "sub" version!
So 1.37.....2 is newer than 1.37.....1 .
Cooked roms are based on stock roms, they have - dependend of cooker - i.e. some speed tweaks, memory tweaks, or newer/updateable apps in them.
regards
Thanks for that information.... so I'm up-to-date....
As I'm a little afraid of having a wonderful brick I'll read a lot more before installing some cooked verison!
I've read that Radio 1. 00.25.05 works better than mine (03). It really worth to install in without installing the hole ROM? (I supouse it can be done...)
Thanks again!

How to extract Stock ROM from My Compact IV

Hi all,
I am a new member on the forums and must say, thay have taught me a lot!
I have a T-Mobile MDA Compact IV running on stock ROM, radio and protocol.
I would like to ask you haow to extract these from my phone so that if i decide to install a custom rom and Hard SPL and then want to go back to the originals, (for warranty purposes) i can do so.
If anyone could kindly tell me how to do it. I will try and upload them to the forums so that other users can benefit from them if needed.
I have searched the forums for ages but can't find what i'm looking for. If there is anything i've missed, please direct me in the right direction
Many Thanks.
MDA Compact IV
ROM version: 1.37.110.3 WWE
ROM date: 20/06/08
Radio version: 1.00.25.03
Protocol version: 52.26a.25.09u
No need to backup
See this thread for original tmobile compact IV rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406327
I have been through most of the popular 1.93 roms and must say that with some good tweaking and radio .05 the original Tmobile rom performs fine and after all these dark themes, the t-mobile interface has actually grown on me.
I am now running with the above rom which have flashed back countless times. Not sure why this rom is not listed in wiki or mentioned on the other rom lists in this forum.
Use Olipro's NBH utility to extract the OS nb. (reports:
DIAM20000
T-MOB005
1.37.110.3)
Thanks for the info
Hi,
Thanks for the info, but what app(s) should i use to do some "good tweaking" and where do i get the .05 radio?
I have exactly the same phone as you
I know i can use the TF3D app to change themes so if the rom and radio etc work fine i can just swith between the themes later.
If you could help, it would be much appreciated.
Cheers.
p.s. how do i use the rom from the link? It's an exe file.
shahin156 said:
Hi,
Thanks for the info, but what app(s) should i use to do some "good tweaking" and where do i get the .05 radio?
I have exactly the same phone as you
I know i can use the TF3D app to change themes so if the rom and radio etc work fine i can just swith between the themes later.
If you could help, it would be much appreciated.
Cheers.
p.s. how do i use the rom from the link? It's an exe file.
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Apps for tweaking: Diamond Tweak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409540) and Advance Config (http://www.touchxperience.com/en/advanced-configuration-tool.html)
Radio can be found here: http://www.duttythroy.net/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=53&task=viewcategory&catid=5
Have fun
Edit: the exe file can be unpacked with winrar ...
Thank you so much for the help guys. I never knew that there were nice ppl out there willing to give a helping hand to a "noob"
just a quick question. Does it matter which radio i use in my phone or should i just use the latest one?
Thanks
read the bibles
for all your answers : forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
OK Then! but...
Okie dokie. i have been on "http://modmydiamond.info/" before, just forgot that it has a mention of which radio was the most recommended. Thanks for the reminder mdajansen
I've downloaded the original tmobile compact IV rom and have seen that it is for a HTC Victor/Diamond. Is that still ok for my Compact IV? and will it bring my phone back to the original tmobile branding?
Thanks.
Yep
Yes, this will reset your Compact IV back to the original tmobile shipped rom including all the original branding etc.
I have done this multiple times (extracted os.nb and rebuild just an os.nbh), used hardspl 1.37 (developer edition)
ok then, thanks for that.

help!!always hang after flash to manila2d!!

hi there, i hv a problem here,i hv flash my dopod838 pro to manila 2d which i found in this forum,after flash it,my device also hang and when i do a soft reset,it hang at boot screen and cant enter windows..i wondering what problem with my device.....can some body gv me idea regarding my dopod?relly blur and no idea about it...........
Hi! Have you tried flashing original carrier ROM & then flashing the ROM of your choice??
original carrier rom?i think i didnt do that....where i can get this original rom?is it we must flash to wm5 1st then upgrade to wm6?thanks
I hope you had Hard SPL installed.
Do a search to see if you can find your carriers WM06 rom, it doesn't need to be WM05. Search is your friend here.
kahwah said:
original carrier rom?i think i didnt do that....where i can get this original rom?is it we must flash to wm5 1st then upgrade to wm6?thanks
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HI!
Please check this link out I am sure it you will get enough info about upgrading your Dopod 838 pro!
Best of Luck!
ultramag69 said:
I hope you had Hard SPL installed.
Do a search to see if you can find your carriers WM06 rom, it doesn't need to be WM05. Search is your friend here.
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yes i have hardspl installed,my spl ver is 2.10.olipro,but still like that
kahwah said:
original carrier rom?i think i didnt do that....where i can get this original rom?is it we must flash to wm5 1st then upgrade to wm6?thanks
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Hi!
You can get original carrier shipped WM6 rom for your mobile here!
thanks hemendra05!!1 more thing i want to ask,what is radio rom?what is the diffrence flashing radio rom and other ordinary rom?thanks
kahwah said:
thanks hemendra05!!1 more thing i want to ask,what is radio rom?what is the diffrence flashing radio rom and other ordinary rom?thanks
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Hi!
The radio ROM provides improvements on the GSM radio stack and this has effect on the GSM signal, AT command interface, GSM data modem (3G, GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA, etc...) functionality that is controlled by the Radio Interface Layer (RIL)
Please go trough this page you have plenty of information related to all Hermes related queries one may have.. Hope it will be useful for you
Just remember though that if something stuffs up while flashing the radio rom, you are pretty much gonna end up with a brick... You may be able to use the PDA functions but phone will be gone forever...
same problem
I have a dopod 838 pro. Hardspl by olipro. Flashed roms with manilla 2d and right now suffering the same problem like kahwah..
Tried already the method of flashing original rom then to the cooked rom but still the same problem persist.
Can someone give me an idea on what to do next..
Seriously guys, both of you, READ the Hermes Wiki and the Noob section, they are set as stickies at the top of the thread. I mean, come on, you have not even posted 7 posts on XDA-DEVs and you already are close to bricking your phone.
READ the Wiki first!

[Q] Doubt about radio

Hi there,
I am quite new to this HTC and WinMo world and have a question about radio versions:
Higher version numbers are always better than smaller ones? Or at least newer?
I have flashed Gen.Y R2.6 and the author recommends radio 1.13.25.24. My current stock is 1.00.25.08.
The higher one is better? How do i know that? Witch one should i use?
My device is the HTC Touch Diamond, BTW. Claro carrier, from Brazil.
Thanks in advance.
pedrohp said:
Hi there,
I am quite new to this HTC and WinMo world and have a question about radio versions:
Higher version numbers are always better than smaller ones? Or at least newer?
I have flashed Gen.Y R2.6 and the author recommends radio 1.13.25.24. My current stock is 1.00.25.08.
The higher one is better? How do i know that? Witch one should i use?
My device is the HTC Touch Diamond, BTW. Claro carrier, from Brazil.
Thanks in advance.
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The radio you have it is maybe too old 1.13.25.24 is good when its recommended by ROM creator. I also have very good experiences with latest offical radio 1.09.25.23 and also with 1.15.25.14. On the other hand very bad experience with 1.17.25.09 radio. But I am from Europe...
After you install the new radio don't forget also to install appropriate rilphone for this radio, it is very important.
For more information search the radio thread, you can find it here.
Mbiba
Hi,
Can i backup my current radio?

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