I am currently on my second M2000 and I am finding that the range for the WiFi is very poor - I can be in the next room and barely get a signal - this has occurred on two devices that I have got from Orange.
Initially, I did have an XDA IIi (Alpine) from O2 - the WiFi was so much better - the only problem was that the GSM coverage from O2 was poor - fine in London, but useless between the Chilterns and Berkshire Downs.
To investigate further (as I am probably going to have to justify to Orange why I want to cancel my BusinessPlus contract), I have just loaded WiFiFoFum and when the device is in the USB cradle (about 30cm from WiFi AP - a Linksys WAG54G) - the signal is very good (shows -16 to -22) - pick the device up and shows -30 to -45 (same distance from the AP) - going downstairs two floors to the living room, I get -90 (i.e. no signal) if I am holding the device - I can get around -73 if I am not holding it (sort defeating the purpose of a handheld device!!) - working downstairs was not a problem for the XDAIIi...
I don't want to open it up, but it seems like the wifi antenna is probably low down on the device ie. where your hand will block the signal - can anyone confirm this?
Has anyone else experienced problems like this? If I was cynical, I might think that Orange doesn't want you to use WiFi, rather to use their GPRS...
Oh yes - and by the way, despite the HTC stating that the phone should be just as good as the XDA IIi (wrt to WiFi, at least!), Orange Technical Support stated today that they do not support the WiFi part of the phone, therefore they could not give a fault code so that it could be replaced - thank goodness that Orange provide free Insurance cover for the phone - I had to tell them that it was dead to get a replacement.
All fun and games - the pda combined with a phone is great, but I do want the WiFi as well - if I go with another operator (T-Mobile MDAIII), will I get the same problem?
Any comments would be appreciated!
Best regards,
Adrian
Operator: Orange (UK)
Operator version: 5.31.1.124
ROM version: 1.31.00.WWE
ROM date: 12/13/04
Radio version: 1.06.02
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtROM version: 1.32.124 WWE
Model: PH20B
I had an XDA2s & now an M2000. WiFi on both is very poor compared to any iPaq. Just seems to be the way it is....
I gave up - I now have an iPAQ 2410 (BT, WiFi, CF and SD) and a Nokia 6880 phone - I have to carry both, but can do all that I need - not as convenient, but there you go...
Maybe in 12 months when the contract is up on the phone, things will have improved...
official internal photos are under the fcc link in this page.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=569
When i opened up my blue angel this weeken i noticed the wifi antenna loop was tiny. I'm experimenting with cutting the metal loop and soldering each side to a wire loop that goes around inside the circumference of the case a couple of times.
So far, just grabbing a peice of speaker wire and touching it to the metal tab on the inside of the device improoves the range a lot.
Hi All,
My first post, I appologise if this has been covered before. I did look first!
My experience is also that the WiFi reception is poor on the BA. I took mine apart trying to solve another problem this afternoon and came to the following conclusion.
The internal wifi antenna is very small.
It's situated in the lower right hand corner of the unit so if your right handed your probably absorbing most of the signal with your hand.
There is an external antenna socket on the PCB of the U.FL type (commonly used on microPCI cards).
It's a bit inconveniently located.
Here's a piccy I took: (edit: obviously that's one I modified not took!)
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I imagine you could drill a hole to access it but it would be behind the battery. This might not be a bad thing though because you could modify a battery to connect to it, perhaps with the antenna or a larger connector on the battery.
What do you think?
Steve
what if you do a side hole and there you put out the same (or difrend) connector which will be wired with internal connector, mayb this can be done
sounds nice
xplode said:
what if you do a side hole and there you put out the same (or difrend) connector which will be wired with internal connector, mayb this can be done
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Yeah that sounds good. You'd have to modify the case a fair bit though. The problem is that the U.FL connector is not designed for repeated use so really it needs something permenant.
Steve
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For a while I’ve wanted to use my BA as a universal remote, but the IR emitter was just too weak to be useful. A few days ago I successfully modded my BA and now I can control my TV from 8m away. I decided to post my experiences in case anyone else wants to do the mod.
I had heard the on some HP iPAQs, people have managed to replace a single resistor and got a huge increase in range so I decided to open up my BA and see if there was any resistor that was limiting current to the IR emitter. However, after looking through the datasheet for the BA's IR transceiver module (Agilent HSDL-3201), it became obvious that it was just not designed for consumer IR and I would have to replace it with a transceiver that was designed for consumer IR.
I started looking on the internet for a suitable replacement and after some searching I decided to buy two of these:
http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=1469607
Unfortunately this transceiver is not pin compatible with the existing one in the BA (none of the ones I looked at were), so I decided I would have to glue it on upside down and solder wires to it.
The replacement transceivers arrived a few days ago and I started the mod. After I opened up my BA and removed the backup battery, I started taking out the existing IR transceiver using a soldering iron and pliers. I was a bit too rough and ended up pulling up one of the pads on the PCB. Luckily the pad was the only one not connected to anything.
After I had removed the old IR transceiver, I soldered wires to the pads on the PCB. I then glued the new IR transceiver onto the PCB, upside down, and soldered the wires onto the transceiver.
Here is a wiring diagram showing the IR transceiver positioned upside down on the PCB, with pins facing upwards.
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After I had reassembled my blue angel, I ran the novii remote software and tested it. Success! The software successfully learned all the commands from my original TV remote, and I was able to control my TV from the very back of my living room. I even went into the garden to test it, and I was still able to control my TV up to 8 metres away. The original TV remote control can control the TV from 10 metres away, but I’m not complaining.
I don’t use IrDA, but I tested it anyway to see if it still worked and it did. I was able to send a contact card from my BA to my old nokia phone 1.6m away and I was able to receive a contact card from the nokia phone 1.3m away. I have no idea if that’s an improvement over the old IR module or not since I never used the IrDA before this mod.
If anyone knows of any better software than novii please let me know. I’ve tried to use nevo but I couldn’t get it to work.
I’m sorry I didn’t take any pictures during the mod, but here’s a couple of the finished mod. I know my wiring looks bad, but it works.
I have
one question:
how much battery power it costs?
Did the battery draining much faster while using boosted irda?
By the way very nice idea
I must do something like this in my ba
Tested On
Xperia X1a (poetryrocksalot)
What Is This Thing?
This is a "TMC Antenna with a 4-pole 3.5 mm jack".
TMC Antennas are used for reception of traffic data called TMC (Traffic Message Channel), but they can also be used as a more casual FM Radio Antenna.
Who Manufactured My Unit?
X-Plus (German Store on eBay)
How Much Did Mine Cost?
$26.81 (USD) with free shipping
When did it arrive?
I purchased it on July 10, 2009.
I received it today on July 18, 200
Pictures
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV_v3PQEX-o
Specifications
-5 inches long
-Best suited for frequencies between 80 MHz and 103 MHz
-3.5 mm headphone jack
-Designed for TMC reception
-4-pole headphone jack
Pros
-Adjustable Aerial
-Portable Antenna
-Practically Wireless
-Works with FM Radio
-Allows "Speaker Mode"
Cons
-Bad reception for frequencies higher than 103 MHz
-Hard to Straighten
-Prone to Breakage
Ways to improve FM Radio reception with this antenna
1) You can use your hand to hold the device or the antenna to increase the reception. (I suggest holding the device, instead of antenna)
2) Use the FM Radio outdoors or right next to a window.
3) Place it directly on a good conductor (metal and skin are good conductors).
Where to Buy
Italian/German HandyTech24 eBay Store (German Language)
German X-Plus eBay Store (German Language) [I Bought This One]
German "vhbw24" eBay Store (English Language)
Guys, I need your help. Please buy 1 from HandyTech24 and 1 from vhbw24. I would like to compare the quality and reception of these antennas. They ARE different antennas. Submit your reviews here in mythread.
Comparison to Headphones
My headphones have better reception, but I have to hold the headphone to improve the reception.
The antenna has good reception, but it must be placed somewhere that has good conduction or somewhere that has less interference (such as big metal walls). [the metal on the wall is a good conductor and therefore eats most of the radio by the time it reaches the antenna]
Empirical Data
Excellent Reception Frequency 102.7 MHz (KIIS-FM - L.A.'s #1 Hit Music Station!)
Decent Reception Frequency 105.9 MHz [Power 106 Where Hip Hop Lives!]
Awful Reception Frequency 106.7 [MHz KROQ FM-The World Famous KROQ]
Final Verdict
Sometimes the reception is crystal clear.
It takes away the annoyance of long wires.
It does not have the best reception all the time.
Headphones have bad reception anyways.
Overall, the reception is 65% as strong as a headphone's reception.
I give it a 70/100 satisfaction rate
Take The Poll
Are you going to buy a TMC/FM Antenna for your phone?
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seems a good idea but it sounds horrible!! donno about :S
wazaaappp said:
seems a good idea but it sounds horrible!! donno about :S
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Sometimes the audio quality crystal clear, but you need to place it on top of an aluminum trash can .
Don't worry though, I'm in the process in designing my own telescopic antenna that will be able to utilize the reception.
I get awesome FM radio quality on my X1i using just a normal pair of headphones - Sony MDR-V300s. They do have like a three metre long cable which helps though
I'd be interested, if the radio would output to bluetooth stereo headsets using this, but I'm guessing it doesn't.
Never will spend $26.81 (USD) with free shipping
for peace of wire...nothing special on it to expensive i manage to make one myself with less than a dolar, with just some broken earphones...and a copper solid wire to make it hard enought...More than easy....
Don't have to be a scentiest to make your own one...
i bought one like that on amazon! for 5.99€ just as a small tipp
and it works pretty well so far
clear in indoor?
Wish I could find this design
Made by a Taiwanese company called Comma.
Still would need a way to bypass the sound going from headphones if you wanted bluetooth or speaker sound.
http://www.comma.com.tw/MPFMEA-35N.htm
http://www.comma.com.tw/MPFMEA-35M.htm
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poetryrocksalot said:
Sometimes the audio quality crystal clear, but you need to place it on top of an aluminum trash can .
Don't worry though, I'm in the process in designing my own telescopic antenna that will be able to utilize the reception.
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Did you ever go on with your own antenna? I'm looking for a way of connecting to my house antenna (using my tablet), which would guarantee good reception.
Is there anyway to boost the wifi on this thing. I have 3 tablets (samsung tab 7, Lenovo Ideapad K1, and this) Samsung and Lenovo keeps connection with my home router but this one it disconnects half the time. Kinda frustrating. I assume this also will kill my battery faster than it already does. Any advice?
EDIT:
So I exchanged my tablet and still the replacement has bad wifi. I figure this had to be hardware related so following the procedure here I decided to take it upon myself to figure it out. If youre not comfortable doing this I suggest just keep returning your unit till you get a good one. Note when you remove the first side bezel there's a black sticker over one of the screws. I was able to remove it easily with an exacto knife being careful not to rip it so I can put it back on later. After removing the 3 sides except for the power button side (not necessary) you remove the back off and you end up with this.
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I'm not sure which is the wifi antenna or if they work as a pair but I moved both antenna connectors around (I didnt try to remove it cause this might make the connectors loose) and moved the black antenna right on top the camera. Reference all the red arrows. I left the tablet on so I was able to tell if it was making a difference. Eventually got it to get 2 bars just like on my Lenovo Ideapad! Possibly one of the micro coax connetors was not making good contact. These are the same RF connectors on RC receivers so they are a little more susceptible in losing contact specially if they're too lose. So just move them side to side and dont remove or lift them off.
Prior to this I was alternating between no bar and 1. This time it consistently stayed at 2 bars regardless how I moved or where I moved in my room (our router is in another room upstairs). Carefully put the tablet back together and now my connection is stable 2 bars. Finally!
So it does seem like there's some QA issue with these tablets. There's a huge thread in the acertabletforum about this issue and some say to change your connection from DHCP to static but that doesnt make logic sense to me. Some have been able to exhange theirs gotten good replacements.
Anyhow if you have any question, let me know.
I was actually thinking that wifi going out when it's turned off might be on purpose to prolong the crappy battery life.
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I was actually thinking that wifi going out when it's turned off might be on purpose to prolong the crappy battery life.
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Not when its turned off. Theres a setting for that to disable wifi when you turn screen off. But thats not what I'm talking about. My wifi disconnects as I'm surfing or downloading from market or a file.
hmm, does it look like it has a weak signal strength or are you sitting at a good connection and it drops all of the sudden?
If it isn't a weak connection, I assume the device is just having a problem with your router settings. Maybe call support to see if they can give you information, but I haven't heard of this issue. What about open networks at coffee shops or the like? Do you have the same issues?
This is my third tablet and this tablet has the best WiFi that I have seen so far, so I don't think it is a problem with the signal strength.
Maybe I have a bad unit but I went to Bestbuy today and the a100 could not connect to their bestbuy router. It says "not in range". All the other ones (galaxys, xooms, acer, asus, HTC flyer all were connected to bestbuy wifi. HTC and samsung were the better ones at full bars. Acer had 2 and asus had 3. I don't recall what the xooms were. But man what a disappointment. The only thing good was that the a100 was the cheapest at $249. They must've brought the price down again.
[email protected] said:
hmm, does it look like it has a weak signal strength or are you sitting at a good connection and it drops all of the sudden?
If it isn't a weak connection, I assume the device is just having a problem with your router settings. Maybe call support to see if they can give you information, but I haven't heard of this issue. What about open networks at coffee shops or the like? Do you have the same issues?
This is my third tablet and this tablet has the best WiFi that I have seen so far, so I don't think it is a problem with the signal strength.
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Are you on 3.2.1 already? Maybe thats the ticket. I'm still on 3.2 and it says I'm up to date when I try to check for new version. If you are on 3.2.1 how did you get it?
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Are you on 3.2.1 already? Maybe thats the ticket. I'm still on 3.2 and it says I'm up to date when I try to check for new version. If you are on 3.2.1 how did you get it?
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Nope, I do not have the update in my region.
[email protected] said:
Nope, I do not have the update in my region.
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Oh ok. Updated OP so looks like version number is irrelevant in my case.
to my opinion it must kill the signal
any experience at this issue ?
Yes there are post in here that state the likes of GPS dead or takes very long to lock on, once they take off the metal cover and replace original one its ok.
While GPS reception seems to be worsened by the metal back cover GSM/UMTS reception is not affected since the antenna is situated at the bottom of the phone. This is the actual spare part containing the loud speaker and antennas sitting underneath the bulge:
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Further notice that not all covers are wholly made from metal. As you can see from theses photos some still have a plastic frame with a metal plate attached.
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While GPS reception seems to be worsened by the metal back cover GSM/UMTS reception is not affected since the antenna is situated at the bottom of the phone. This is the actual spare part containing the loud speaker and antennas sitting underneath the bulge:
Further notice that not all covers are wholly made from metal. As you can see from theses photos some still have a plastic frame with a metal plate attached.
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While I do not have any GSM/UMTS reception problems outdoors or in public areas, I did experience some loss of reception quality when I'm at home. I sometimes experience 'a circle with a cross' sign, no bars at all. Though this problem only recently happen to me after I upgraded to Gingerbread 2.3.4 just days ago. When I was on 2.3.3 and have the metal back on, I did not see any reception problem when I'm at home.
Anyone have similar problem with 2.3.4?
yup, i can confirm no signal degradation for me, stll not test the gps though...
Recently I received a metal battery cover from eBay seller "easytradingco" which I repeatedly tested for its impact on reception in three different locations (balcony, office room, kitchen).
My conclusion is that there's a slight impact on UMTS/3G-reception reducing signal strength by ~5dBm with the metal cover attached (I made sure the phone was always connected to the same NodeB, which is 2km away from me and - at least on the balcony - in line of sight)
Interestingly WiFi-reception seems to be slightly improved by 2-3 dBm with the metal cover attached.
However GPS becomes nearly unusable with the metal cover. On each test run I gave the phone 3 minutes to get a satfix with AGPS data updated immediately before. Even outdoors (on the balcony) I couldn't get a satfix with only a single satellite found after 3 minutes, while with the original cover it took 10 seconds to detect 9 satellites of which 6 provided a signal strong enough to determine my position.
That said I wouldn't buy a metal cover again as it renders GPS unusable and also impacts UMTS-reception slightly.
Hi
I recently bought a new Android head unit for my Renault Clio and have been going over a few things before i install and was surprised to see the wifi antenna is just a single wire that comes from one of the output plugs on the chassis. On all my previous head units there's been a gold RP-SMA type connector to attach an antenna to.
Heres the Unit I purchased: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Din-Autoradio-Android-9-0-Car-GPS-Stereo-Audio-10inch-4G-64G-HDMI-AUX-Wifi-OBD/183972485630?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
My questions are;
Is this new single white wire (antenna) out the back of the units chassis enough to pick up a signal? & if not:
How do i go about modifying it? In my car i have two 'blade' type adhesive antennas in the A-pillars of the car which gave great wifi reception with my phone tethered in the glove box. I can't help but think this new unit may be a bit of a step down in wifi performance.
Could a possible solution be to connect (via one of the USB connectors) an RP-SMA type antenna like this but for Android, does such a thing exist as i don't want to fit a usb dongle since i have unlimited data on my phone.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Speed-USB-Wifi-Adapter-Wireless-Antenna-Dongle-For-Smart-TV-Box-Openbox-PC/303239475128?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
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*EDIT* Or could i solder a pig tail lead (like the one below) to the head units wifi antenna wire to make use of my existing blade antennas:
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Roger (UK)
WiFi antenna mod
eunavi head unit is the same as Bosion!
I disassembled my radio I eliminated single wire (useless) I soldered a pigtail (RP-SMA female ) on the mainboard and I inserted a small wifi antenna! now the wifi signal is much more powerful and I can finally connect the radio to the home wifi
pinotuning said:
eunavi head unit is the same as Bosion!
I disassembled my radio I eliminated single wire (useless) I soldered a pigtail on the mainboard and I inserted a small wifi antenna! now the wifi signal is much more powerful and I can finally connect the radio to the home wifi
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Cheers, I ended up doing the same but soldering on an RP-SMA connector onto the end of the wireless cable that poked out the back. It worked a treat. Overall i'm very impressed with this unit compared to the Xtrons unit i have in my van, the only problem i'm having is no DAB without tethering my phone despite having a USB DAB module plugged in in the glove box.
Roger (UK)
Hi friend ?
it can also work as you did...
the antenna cable is composed of 2 cores of wires! the internal wire is the signal (on the radio it was that stupid wire)
then there is the ground cable to be connected on the radio chassis! you see my photo .... I soldered the pigtail cable on the motherboard!
my radio works fine but i don't use DAB i'm sorry! I noticed that my radio has problems mixing audio music and navigator .... you have the same problem?
thanks
Cheers PT i'll have another look at that, I've got a spare RP-SMA pigtail so may well open up the radio and go direct from the board like you have. The only problem i have is when i use poweramp it doesn't always shut the radio off so have to open another app to turn radio off that way. Other than that all good and for £130 can't really complain, my xtrons unit was just shy of £300 and is slower.
also i have the same problem with poweramp! i removed the application because i preferred old style apk which worked better in my old eonon head unit!
so you have no problem with audio management when using the gps navigator?
when I listen to music and use the navigator (iGo) the voice feels low and the music increases the volume! consequently I do not understand what to say the voice guide of the navigator!
my radio is the model with dsp (about 220 dollars)
https://m.it.aliexpress.com/item/32...MI6Kn1pIuR6QIVCp53Ch3nMwr1EAsYByABEgKapvD_BwE
pinotuning said:
also i have the same problem with poweramp! i removed the application because i preferred old style apk which worked better in my old eonon head unit!
so you have no problem with audio management when using the gps navigator?
when I listen to music and use the navigator (iGo) the voice feels low and the music increases the volume! consequently I do not understand what to say the voice guide of the navigator!
my radio is the model with dsp (about 220 dollars)
https://m.it.aliexpress.com/item/32...MI6Kn1pIuR6QIVCp53Ch3nMwr1EAsYByABEgKapvD_BwE
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Navigation wise i use google maps, it quietens the music momentarily when giving directions, you can change this in the settings to keep music up. I havent used the iGo software. So apart from the poweramp problem no other problems, i think i'll tey a different DAB module (got a couple spare) to sort that and maybe point all my music at the onboard player instead of poweramp.
can you take screenshots of your settings to keep music?
i can't ... maybe my firmware has a problem
Thanks
wrong mcu
Hi i flashed the wrong mcu can someone upload a backup?