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SO can most IPAQ accessories be butchered to work with an XDA/XDA II by just rewiring the connector? I ask becuase I would like to purchase a targus stowaway keyboard and use it with an MDA. Also, could a compaq expansion jacket (PCMCIA) be modiefied to work with an XDA/XDA II. Just make the required rewiring, and a custom jacket? Would anyone be interested in such a device, if it were made available? Thanks!
well the xda2 have backpack connection options so it's pretty mush just a question if the same pins are in the ipaq jackets and the xda2 bakcpack connections if not it's not going to happen if so a crossover conevter would be possible but since it would add to size of the device which many people worry about and if it dident have a all that great market notbody would spend the coins on developing it
I have seen cables sold that convert some ipaq add ons for xda use, I am not sure about the pcmcia add on as the xda would also need driver support.
I'd be interested in a device which fits to the O2 back pack and allows the Back Pack to be charged stand alone instead of having to connect it to the XDA II
I ask becuase I would like to purchase a targus stowaway keyboard and use it with an MDA.
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http://www.thinkoutside.com/ already make a keyboard for XDA1/2 & MDA1/2 - you don't need to hack an iPaq one - although they don't seem to mention it on their website. The part number is PH10A, PH10B if you want to order one.
In the UK they sell for GBP70 - I bought one two weeks ago for my XDA2, and it's great.
Charger
I have a spare Ipaq charger...
I do understand that the XDAII dongle (the final piece that plugs directly to the device) is specific... but, can I plug the Ipaq charger to the cradle with no problems?
Thanks!
Chris
I have a spare Ipaq charger...
I do understand that the XDA II dongle (the final piece that plugs directly to the device) is specific... but, can I plug the Ipaq charger to the cradle with no problems?
Thanks!
Chris
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Yes thats exactly what I have done.
Cheers
JustinP
I was thinking more of a "base station" or dock. A butchared docking cradle with pcmcia USB for ethernet/keyboard, HD, etc.... My next question, is could you just use the compaq driver; copy from an IPAQ to an XDA/XDAII???? Thanks.
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I ask becuase I would like to purchase a targus stowaway keyboard and use it with an MDA.
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Hello,
I am warning you - dont buy Targus keyboards !
Almost 2 months ago I undertook a great hassle to get their IRDA keyboard PA870E. I did everything according to the manual and the thing doesnt work. I called the helpline, told them everything, waited 2 weeks - nothing. I sent some reminders and finally after 1 month !! I got a reply saying "Another device using Infrared device may be interfering with the IR keyboard". What an idiots - this is the first thing they write in the troubleshooting section of their manual ! Of course this is NOT the problem.
So I am stuck with keyboard for more than 100 usd which doesnt work I dont know what to do with it. I hope you understand my frustration.
Try anything else, but beware of Targus, the troubles are not wort it.
Regards,
Petr
Czech Republic
Sure! The TARGUS Keyboard don't work ant way.
Thankfully, in the shop where I bought it they returned the money to me.
BELKIN's keyboard, also of infrared, works perfectly, always and when we do not try to write under direct intense light-
I actually just baugt my first MDA I off of ebay. NOt a bad deal. I got an AL case, and the unit includes the standard accessories plus 3 extra (extra) stuluses, screen protectors, keyboard, extra belt clips, leather case, blah, blah, blah.... but it also includes a targus keyboard. I'll mess around and try to make it work. We'll see, and I'll let you know.
PS. I don't like non verified connections. IR is just to sketchy for me.
Thanks guys.
IT"S A FRIGGIN IR KEYBOARD!!!!! I can't really complain though... I got
MDA I
Dock
Home charger
Charger adapter
MiniSync Cable
MiniSync Car adapter
OEM sync cable
two swivel belt clips
two leather cases (tmo and krussel)
Pocket PC for Dummies
All origional manuals
Origional Box
6 Sylie (stylusses?)
5 Screen Protectors
OEM Headset
Targus IR Keyboard ( :roll: )
For $263 delivered
On top of that, the unit had only been used for 22 hrs of talking, had 1 very little scratch on the case front, and the antenna had a little scuffage on one corner. I feel bad that the dude let go of it for 250. He also included the original recipt for the unit only. He paid $427 just over a year ago.
FYI I already had a SIPIX A6 printer for my laptop, which works fantastik with my MDA.
Hi All,
I've been reading this forum for a while now and I'n currently looking for a active car holder. I've seen all kinds come by, but the one that I (and others I think) are looking for is no were to be seen!
The Veripart is a step in the right direction. But I don't need a extra speaker AND I want my MDA vertical! Is it so hard for the cradle developers to create one like that.
Does any know of a cradle like that?
PS, sorry for the tone in this post, but I just get a bit frustrated that something so easy could be so hard to get.
Hi, Welcome to the forum,
Have you seen the Brodit holders for the Exec/JasJar etc.
They offer Passive holders: code 848649, (just holds it) or Active with Cig Charger code: 968649 or hardwired to vehicles power code: 971649.
All the holders allow you to have it either in vertical PDA mode, or Laptop mode with exposed keyboard, and also full rotation for landscape view for sat nav etc.
Have a look at: http://www.dsldevelopments.com/brodit/brodit.asp either do a search by PDA make, the codes above or the 968649 is listed further down the homepage.
All the holders either fit onto a vehicle specific proclip (choose your car make, model and year) or onto a windscreen suction mount.
Hope that helps you decide, many users have these and have posted positive comments on the forum about them.
Cheers,
Bryson
Hi Bryson,
Yes I know.. But I just hate to have to connect the power supply each time manualy. When you look at the veripak one it has the connector build in. You just slide the mda in the cradle and youre done.
I'm using an Arkon vehicle mount for my Wizard. It's also a windshield mount with a tightening swivel head that can be locked into either vertical or horizontal position. Take a look here -- http://www.arkon.com/pdamount.php
There's several different models of their mounts available on the site. The one I'm using is the CM920 model. Works fine for me!!
But then I would still be plugging the power in manualy every time
I had my Wizard mount from www.dsldevelopments.com dealing with Bryson. Worked great and I'm going to order the Hermes one from him too. I suppose you could always doctor the power cable and wire it in properly behind your dash.
Cheerio
Howard
There's a new one on the O2 XDA site that looks interesting and is vertical. I haven't found any more info on this yet though.
http://www.my-xda.com/xdaExecAcc.html
Does any one have and experiance with these?
Mav
There is a massive price difference too though,
Just want to ask a simple question. What is that port/hole next to the USB port? I'm considering the Excalibur/T-Mobile Dash and learning about it before buying.
Thanks,
lie_ui
It is the port for the Headset
The port is for Headset with Mic.
Thanks. I thought the Excalibur uses the same USB-port for the headset as well (just like the TyTn). Or it can use both type of headset then as i noticed the USB port is the HTC custom one just like one in the TyTn?
I think they both are for headsets -- in a perfect world there'd be a standard headphone jack on the dash somewhere...
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Thanks. I thought the Excalibur uses the same USB-port for the headset as well (just like the TyTn). Or it can use both type of headset then as i noticed the USB port is the HTC custom one just like one in the TyTn?
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From the internal photos on the FCC OET web site, it doesn't look like the second hole is electrically connected. I think it may just be for connecting a lanyard or charm.
by my device(dopod c720w asia model) it is nothing ,just a hole.
joychui, did you get the game Another World of your dopod c720w ?? I saw that it comes on the phone from asian reviews. I tried getting it but wont run correctly on the usa Dash?
thank you
Hi there - I'm new to the forum.
I own an Orange SPV M1500 which I think is what you'd term a Himalaya here.
My partner bought me a great new car kit which has the typical thin xda connector port in it, but now the phone is behaving badly. The screen is wonky in several places and is not responding to taps.
My dilemma is this - Orange do not provide these phones any more and they don't provide phones with the same port connector on the bottom either.
So I either have to get rid of the cradle or somehow get another phone with this type of connector.
Does anyone know the current list of phones with this kind of connector? Or where I might be able to get hold of a replacement?
Thanks in advance.
I'm not too sure, but with most car kits you can buy replacement cradles, which i believe are relatively cheap compared to replacing the whole of the car kit, what car kit is it? perhaps a quick google search along the lines of replacement cradles might turn up something
Hi Guys,
I have just got the fantastic little E72 and it is great in almost every way. I want to be able to use my Shure headset with it so I need the adaptor that everyone else wants to find it seems. I have a HTC adaptor but it will not fit into the socket. The socket on my E72 has 5 pin holes and both sides of the interface are curved. The HTC adaptor has one curved side and a straight side so it will not fit in. The E72 does use the usb connection for its headset and audio output but when I did find a Samsung adaptor with both sides curved that did fit into the phone socket it still outputted the music to the external speaker so I am at a loss. There are, therefore, different types of mini usb connectors. Can someone tell me the exact spec of this one fitted to the E72 and possibly where I might get an adaptor that will work??
Much appreciate the help with this.
usb cant be changed to 3.5mm or any type of audio
the reason the htc one dont work is the same reason it dont fit
it have extre connectors which carry analog audio
normal miniusb is a serial digital interface which dont carry analog audio
and usb headsets for pc are really external audiocards which make the serial digital data to analog audio
and that require the ability to usbHost which few pda's support
Many thanks for the explanation. However, my phone came with a stereo headset with mic. I currently use this for listening to music but the quality is not good. Does this not mean then that I should be able to get analogue signal from it??
Please forgive my ignorance; I am learning!!
it all comes down to where you connect your headset
if it's the miniusb port benQ got an extention of miniUSB like htc's extusb
if it's a 2.5mm minijack like older htc devices used you can get a conveter to 3.5mm
The only port on the Benq E72 is the mini USB one. There are no other jacks. The problem is that both sides of the metal housing within this are curved so the HTC one (with one side of the miniUSB adaptor straight) wilkl not fit. I did manage to find and buy an adaptor that was branded Samsung and when I fitted it into the miniUSB socket on the phone it would not work. The music continued to play through the rear speaker even though the adaptor was connected. My supplied headset connects to the phone through the same miniUSB paor but again the metal housing of the miniUSB jack is curved at both sides. I hope this explains better.
as i said then miniUSb should not alow audio at all on the device
and htc use extusb which have more legs then miniusb so if it dont fit
it should not be because of any curves
does your benq device not alow headsets at all ?
if it does how are they connected?
The only connector on the Benq E72 is the miniUSB port. In the attached pic you will see the connector for the wired head set on the left and the miniUSB to standard USB for connection to the PC on the right. I looked inside the silver housing of the connectors on both cables and they seem to have 5 pins along the top (widest) part with the main section being hollow. Now the miniUSB housing on the actual phone does have a plastic inside with 5 pins and , I guess, more connectors along the top of this for the 2 cables. I am to assume that the plastic insert in the phone itsaelf is for the electric charger. There is nothing more that I can give you except to say again that the miniUSB is the only connector on the phone.
if it support headsets connected to the usb connector it must be using some sort
of special usb connector like htc's extusb
i would look at their site if they sell converters
Thanks, as I said the only way to connect the headset is by the miniUSB port so it must support audio. The issue is that the HTC miniUSb headset has a curved side and a straight side so it will not physically fit into the Benq E72 connector. I did get my hands on a philips miniUSB that did fit into the socket on my phone but the music still outputted to the rear speaker of the phone. So, my question is, is there different types of miniUSB wired internals? It would seem so. And would anyone know which would work for the Benq E72 windows mobile poweredsmartphone?
@ 17-apg,
Sorry for this off-topic post. Im planning to buy benq e72 because my o2 xphone2 is too old. Can you please give brief review of the phone, as a user. Is it true that it is laggish? Thank you.
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@ 17-apg,
Sorry for this off-topic post. Im planning to buy benq e72 because my o2 xphone2 is too old. Can you please give brief review of the phone, as a user. Is it true that it is laggish? Thank you.
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No problem ,,
I have the device for over 2 months now and like it a lot. Had a HTC S730 before which was thick and cumbersome and I didnt really need the keyboard. This phone, in contrast, is very light and thin. It runs WinMo 6.0 and I do not find it slower than the HTC in any way. On reflection maybe a little faster even. It is very competively priced as it includes bluetooth, quad band radio and wi-fi. The bluetooth also carries the A2DP functionality. The screen, whilst a little small at 2" is very bright and clear. The keypad has large buttons and is very tactile and positive when texting.There's a 2 meg camera included as well as the microSD slot with a max size of 2GB. You can, however, with software, increase this to the norm of 6GB which I have done. Also the rear speaker (built in) is a reasonable size and therefore can play a decent sound for music if you are travelling and in a hotel room for example. And finally, it has little important assets like the ability to turn on auto redial, a button on the left side which when pressed and held will open the text messaging in a send window. There is also the facility to adjust the screen brightness as well as an internet radio and ringtone editor. All in all, for the price, I definitely recommend this phone. I have bought four more since for friends of mine. They paid of course!!! Now all I need is the miniUSB to 3.5mm audio jack sob sob...
Can you tell if a lanyard can be linked to the device - and where? On all available photos on the net I have not seen any holes for fitting the lanyard to :-(
I am really tempted to get that one as well - escpecially as it is the ONLY (!) smartphone with only a normal keyboard that can use microSDHC cards (after installing updated drivers). They seem to double in size every year - and if the standard is fully supported 6 or 8GB (as reported sucesfully) should not be the limit.
Lanyard
Yes, you can connect a lanyard at the top of the phone. If you can see the top view of the device there is a little hole there. You simply slide off the back cover and fit the lanyard to the designated area on the main body of the deivce (very easily) and then slide the back cover on again.
Now we just need a cooked 6.1 rom for the device!!!
Thanks - I found a set of pictures at a Taiwan Review site (http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/?prod_id=2621&tid=3430647&page=1&list_page=1) - this tells it as well
I was only looking for a small device that can read memory cards > 4GB and this is the one now. Otherwise my Tornado in the house of a Robbie still perfectly fits my need. I also tried WM6 and WM6.1 on that - but fell back to the original WM5 there.
Just can't wait to get it in my hands - it was really a bargain on ebay. Search for benq E72 there and you will see a guy in London selling refurbished E72 for just 69 GBP (9 of 21 left). I just could not resist for that price, sigh...
BTW - on topic: did anyone try the Motorola mini-USB connectors - for the Razor and alike?
I dont think so. DO you habve one that you coulkd try when you get the phone? If so, let us know here cause I would really like to use my own ear buds.
BTW I think you will love this phone! It really impresses me. And also Expansys anre selling brand new ones for about £90.00!!
Is there a WM6.1 for this? Thanks.
Benq E72
Not thatI am aware of. I know that another avid fan of the E72 has requested ROM cookers to try to come up with the 6.1 version bit I am not sure if anyone has taken up the challenge.
I hope that it will happen soon ...
I have received mine in the meantime, but the refurbished one was delivered with a non-fitting headset :-(
Well, it fits mechanically, but there is no sound at all. It looks like a cheap replica of a Motorola Stereo Headset - but also a normal Motorola does not work in this socket. So I am out of any possibility to measure the data of the socket to build an adapter. I complained at the dealer - hopefully there still is a working headset available!
Otherwise the device is nice - only English language installed though for menus and T9.
bye
tobbbie
With some help from Taiwan - the USB wiring for the headset is identified, see my blog article at http://tobbbie-benq-e72.blogspot.com/2008/12/hacking-usb-headset-connector.html for more details. The main information is:
....So the final result is then for the numbered pins of the USB connector (1-5):
Must be connected with a resistor less than 200 kOhms to ground (pin 5). The voltage will rise briefly to battery level but then drop back to 0,16 V to stay there. I suspect that accepting calls with the headset button will introduce new functionality here...
Speaker channel (l,r not checked, source indicates right here) - must be connected to a speaker or a pulldown resistor at device-headset connection time.
Speaker channel (l,r not checked, source indicates left here)
Microphone channel (checked to work with Audionotes)
Grounds
So luckily no complicated electronics - get your soldering irons ready!
BTW: have still not received the original headset :-(