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I have used the Fortuna GPSmart on xda1 using combo cable charger/data, and it is brilliant, extremely accurate, fast to lock on and very tenacious once it gets a lock, I have also tested it with xda2 on bluetooth, in fact I tested it side by side, I had the data cable connected to xda1 and the bluetooth transmitting to xda2 at the same time. I think it is a superb piece of kit, bearing in mind it can also be used standalone as well and can be had on ebay very cheaply, I paid £75 for mine and its one piece of kit that I will be keeping.
flippin hell lol how come you get these bargains mate lol. my dad paid £152 for his one works like god knows what.
picks up signal within a minute and bluetooth connection isnt one bit slow between that and his ipaq.
downside is battery life is crap but i have modified an ipaq car charger to power both things
signal is very powerful and accurate go in a tunnel and signal gone..... as soon as your out "blip" goes tomtom and abck upto 7/8 signal locks
great value gps receiver even has nice lil case and backlight
can be used on pc too via its built in usb port
worth getting imho
When working as a cabled nmea gps it runs at 38400 speed not the normal 4800 so data transfer is rapid, I bought a lead that powers both xda1 and the gps, if I am using the blutooth the cable can be used to just power the gps.
Hi
Can someone tell me where i can get a cable to power both my xda ii & the gpsmart at the same time.
Also which setting do you have your gps receiver on, it takes me a while to pick up a signal but when it kicks in it's great.
Thanks
jase
Got mine from here.
www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk
I havent tried it with xda2 but if an xda1 charger works with xda2 then so will this.
Their product code A770
Manufacture code fort-xda-cab.
Costs £18.46 including vat and delivery.
I am not sure about the implications of having a cable system and the bluetooth connected at the same time on xda2 but as they use different com ports I dont foresee any clash.
If you are using it as a cabled system choose nmea output at 38400, if using blutooth in tomtom just choose bluetooth in the tomtom gps settings using the wizard as supplied with gps 2.09, there is no need for any bluetooth patch when using that gps version.
Hi
Sorry i don't think i explained myself. I was looking for a car charger cable that enabled me to power both my xda2 & the gpsmart at the same time.
Cheers
jase
Yes, it does exactly that, with the added bonus that you can also use it as a cable for gps connection for xda1/xda2 and the fortuna. It powers both.
if you have a look i think youll find it does poer both at the same time :|
yup
lol posting at the same time
cheers guys. I didn't see the product code at first. It's exactly what i want.
Thanks
err no looking closely at it, it won't power the GPS it uses a USB style connector for it.
I have the ClipOn Fortuna GPS Device.
Damn!
we are on about the GPS smart not the clip on thats different all together (cant be used for camping ect...)
yeah that was my fault, for some reason i thought it was the gps smart but it isn't.
Do you know of a car charger out there that can charge both my xda ii and the gps device?
JRD, the charger cable I have does in fact have a mini usb cable connecter at the gps end.
Can anyone tell me which GPS receiver I should get to plug into my o2/XDA1 car kit?
Thanks in advance.
Any serial gps will wire to the kit as far as I know, I dont think you can "plug" a gps into it, it will use com 1 so make sure under settings/connections that the beams box is unchecked.
Does that mean I'll have to butcher an existing receiver in order to make it connect? I was hoping I wouldn't have to do that... :?
It seems strange that the car kit has a connector for GPS and yet there doesn't seem to be a dedicated receiver that just plugs straight in.
OK, next question then - in the absence of a dedicated receiver, what receiver would you recommend, bearing in mind I have to hack it to make it fit?
Thanks.
Get a cheap haicom SERIAL gps or any other serial gps that has the wiring diagram, here is a link for Haicom gps to xda car kit.
http://www.vanhemert.biz/Car_Kit_GPS_Connection.htm
http://www.vanhemert.biz/XDA.htm
Okey dokey, I bought a Haicom 204 and wired it as per that diagram - so far so good.
I've plugged it all in and nothing seems to work. I won't have any SatNav software installed until 2moro, but I was expecting the LEDs to light up on the receiver...?
Is there any way I can tell if the receiver is connected right?
I've unchecked the 'receive all incoming beams' box under Connections, do I have to do anything else for the XDA to see the receiver?
Thanks in advance, and for your help so far.
The light may not come on until it is initialised by a program, why dont you download gps dash or another freebie just to see if everything is ok. You can get it here.
http://gpsdash.com/files.php
Great, thanks. I'll let you know what happens...
Nope, nada.
Do I have to make any speacial settings in GPSDash? What about withinn the XDA itself?
Remember, you're talking to a complete novice here...
Thanks.
settings would be nmea 4800 and com 1 in gps dash
Still nothing.
I presume the receiver takes it's power directly from the carkit, right?
Yes it takes the 5 volt feed as per the diagram, I have heard that sometimes you need 5 volts on the tx line to wake up the gps, I wouldnt do that yet though until you check the wiring. Also a common error is getting the rx tx reversed, try reversing these.
It's funny you should mention the TX/RX. I noticed on that diagram you linked that those connections were labelled the opposite to what's in the 204S manual.
In the manual the pin labelled TX (Pin 5) is labelled XDARXD on the diagram. I figured what's RX to the XDA is TX to the receiver so I went with the diagram wire for wire.
Will I do any harm by swapping them and trying it that way?
No harm at all
IT WORKS!!!
I finally got it to work - turns out I had a faulty receiver. Put a new 204S in and it worked straight away.
Thanks again for your help.
D.
Nice one Deke, isnt it great when things go so smoothly
I have tried two different XDA II units, two different Leadtek "My Traveler" units, six different software titles, and 9 com ports..
No combination gives me any signs of life..
So my first question is:
Is the LED on the Leadtek GPS Mouse supposed to blink or anything when not in use by software? Or does it light up as soon as you have power?
Is there a default com port for this?
I guess it's COM1, since the signal goes through the bottom connector..
Will the Leadtek GPS mouse give any data through the serial port if it can't find any satellites? (Most of the testing is indoors)
Does anyone know the pinout on Leadtek mouses with RJ11 connectors?
Just to add some extra confusion...
If I open Com1, the sound from the XDA II is transfered to the speaker..
If Com1 is closed, no sound is heard..
Nobody?
Can't anyone even give me an answer to the LED question?!
Isn't there anyone here with the "My Traveler" GPS mouse?
I thought this was a very common GPS reciever..
I have a Haicom 204S receiver, XDA 1 and a genuine car kit and I have exactly the same problem as you. I follwed the pinout wiring diagram available elsewhere and still nothing.
I'm beginning to wonder if the problem might be in the car kit.
Here's the web page for Leadtek's GPS products; select the unit that matches what you have & grab the manual. It should tell you what you want to know.
I got the pinout..
But no info on the LED..
Now, I'm looking for the pinout of the O2 XDA II car kits RJ11 connector..
Anyone?
Deke Martin said:
I have a Haicom 204S receiver, XDA 1 and a genuine car kit and I have exactly the same problem as you. I follwed the pinout wiring diagram available elsewhere and still nothing.
I'm beginning to wonder if the problem might be in the car kit.
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You got the pinout for the XDA car kit?
Here:
http://www.vanhemert.biz/Car_Kit_GPS_Connection.htm
Hmm...
There seems to be two versions of the XDA II car kit..
My version only have 4 connectors in the RJ45 female plug..
Thus, I can't use those schematics..
Darn it!
Woops, sorry. I didn't notice you were talking about an XDAII.
Well, better than nothing...
XDA1 Official o2 carKit & Leadtec wired mouse.
Hi, Looking for the connector pinout for the Leadtec RJ45, The manual doesn't show it! also need the diagram showing the carkit pinout.
The link http://www.vanhemert.biz/Car_Kit_GPS_Connection.htm doesn't work anymore - I know the diag. has the info I need but I can't find it.....
:?
Pinout for the Leadtek GPS Mouse
It's all in the manual...
9532manual_v10.6.zip from the Leadtek webpage.
Page 6/48..
It shows the pinout for the Leadtek 9532 aka Traveller..
As for the pinout for the car kit..
I still haven't found it..
OOp's RTFM
Sorry, you are right, don't know how I missed it !
I've connected it all up to the car kit but there is power to the GPS at all times, even when ignition is off! does anyone know where the +vcc should be connected so it at least only has power when the ignition is on?
At present it's connected to the Brown wire on the (8 pin Molex?) connector.
Hi, had a look in the manual and a quick search here but I can't find out what kind of adaptor I need to connect a FME terminated external aerial to my Orbit. TIA.
Great forum, very helpful BTW (just found out about dual sim holders... )
Aerial
Hi The specification for an external aerial seems to be confusing - it took me a long time to actually get something that fits. John, at 'GPS Antenna only' in Ebay, has got GPS aerials that do, and may be able to help you further
Thanks but I couldn't find anything on Ebay -- do you have a link?
Aerials
Hi. Sorry about that. That was the name of his shop. Try this.. http://search.ebay.co.uk/ws/search/MemberSearchResult?userid=londoncolour
This should take you to his shop. He really was very good when he was trying to get me a GPS aerial - we must have tried 4 or 5 different ones that according to the specifications, were 'supposed' to be correct. I know that he also contacted HTC, and what they told him was wrong as well, but John bought an Orbit himself, and eventually found the correct one. He really couldn't have done more - excellent supplier, highly recommended, and great value.
Thanks, but he just directed me to the GPS aerial he had for sale. Have contacted HTC Europe, see what they come up with.
http://www.gerry-mobilfunk.de/artik...hluss_einer_externen_Antenne_KFZ-Antenne.html
It's only in German language, but I hope it helps anyway.
As far as I know, the connector should be an MS-147-C(LP)-2
Thanks for that -- I've dropped him an email. That part number for the aerial doesn't come up much on Google...
I should qualify that: the MS-147-C(LP)-1 type does the 2 doesn't seem to exist...
Sorry, that seems to be right. I've got that information from expansys webpage.
Have a look at the data sheet
http://www.hirose.co.jp/cataloge_hp/e35801505.pdf
Hi Peter, so you think it is the 1 I'm looking for?
I've asked Hirose for a free sample of
MS-147-C(LP)-1 and MS-147-HRMJ-1 for validation.
GPS Antenna Adaptor
I was in Radiop Shack and found adaptor # 17-349 connects to the P3300 (aka Artemis) on one end and has a standard Antenna cable connector on the opposite end.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2104006&cp
Not sure if it works as I have not connected it to a GPS antenna itself but it' gets you past the hard part (connecting to the phone)
Original GPS Antenna
Original Orbit GPS Antenna
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GPS-Antenna-f...hZ006QQcategoryZ20380QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem
It was an external aerial for the phone socket I was after, but thanks anyway.
I don't know if anyone has seen this thread but its very interesting, he was attempting to solder on a BT and or GPS chip to the UART pin outs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25596448#post25596448
it appears the only hiccup he was having was enabling USB host witch was done by Hash in the 3.0 kernel builds.
any thoughts / takers?
webstas said:
I don't know if anyone has seen this thread but its very interesting, he was attempting to solder on a BT and or GPS chip to the UART pin outs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25596448#post25596448
it appears the only hiccup he was having was enabling USB host witch was done by Hash in the 3.0 kernel builds.
any thoughts / takers?
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Looks cool, although after some searching I could only find bluetooth v1.1, and the MicroSD card reader that I found doesn't support HC, so the most I could expand my memory by is 2gb and that doesn't really seem worth it. Do you have any sources for chips? I would be interested in trying. I've been looking for a reason to get the soldering iron out again.
The UART modules are only an idea, the main problem with going that direction instead of USB host is the drivers the modules would need(They all usually come with generic ones, but they would need to be customized for Android). I have very limited code/coding knowledge so I would need alot of help or soeone to do that part completely. I was going to pm Hashcode for help if I decided to try out the UART modules. Also, i'm unsure if more than one module can be used at the same time.
Like I just posted in the thread i'm still waiting on some stuff to arrive to actually get started on the USB host attempt. I have the wires soldered to the USB/Charge port pins, but since I don't have the microsd adapter or any more spare cords to rip apart I can't go further. I ordered about 10 different mini microsd adapters to take apart and see which works out the best.
Other people have USB host working, so shouldn't be difficult. I've just never used USB host before so i'm not real sure of what to expect.
The only downside is that there needs to be a switch of some sort somewhere to disable USB host so that adb/storage will work. I'm trying to think of something a little more elegant that having a huge hole in the case with a switch protruding out of the side. I'm going to go searching for some solutions and a super small switch.
All the UART GPS modules I found when searching "uart gps module" on Google are mostly from India and are between $30-50ish, the receivers look to be about the size of a quarter.
*http://robokits.co.in/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=289
*http://robosapiensindia.com/robomar...n=com_virtuemart&Itemid=64&vmcchk=1&Itemid=64
*http://robosapiensindia.com/robosap...ategory_id=27&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=64
I decided to look on Sparkfun and adafruit and i'm glad I did, it looks like they both have some modules, but I haven't looked around and dug through them yet.
*http://www.sparkfun.com/categories/4
*http://www.adafruit.com/category/35_58
All the optimism aside i'm not all too sure that we could get the GPS UART module to work. From what I see (First picture: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1471813) the UART output that Hashcode put into use only has two GNDs a TX and RX. The modules that I found all look like they need 8 connections. Adafruit has a nice pic of the connections labeled here: http://www.adafruit.com/products/746
tipzilla said:
Looks cool, although after some searching I could only find bluetooth v1.1, and the MicroSD card reader that I found doesn't support HC, so the most I could expand my memory by is 2gb and that doesn't really seem worth it. Do you have any sources for chips? I would be interested in trying. I've been looking for a reason to get the soldering iron out again.
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If you're talking about microsd UART modules, as mentioned in the thread I created, someone made the point that it wouldn't make much sense because speeds would be way too low.
I think GPS would be a cool addition. But at this point, can we use the OTG cable with a bluetooth dongle? If that is the case then I could use a bluetooth to GPS app and use the GPS chip on my phone instead of wiring a GPS mod and having to worry about the drivers being programmed into the code. That was the problem with the Viewsonic G-Tablet that i had, you had to have a special kernel in order to use the GPS mod.
tipzilla said:
I think GPS would be a cool addition. But at this point, can we use the OTG cable with a bluetooth dongle? If that is the case then I could use a bluetooth to GPS app and use the GPS chip on my phone instead of wiring a GPS mod and having to worry about the drivers being programmed into the code. That was the problem with the Viewsonic G-Tablet that i had, you had to have a special kernel in order to use the GPS mod.
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Yeah, getting GPS to work would take alot of work. When I tried it with some USB host bluetooth modules for Hashcode's kernel I couldn't get it to work, but that was a few builds ago, I haven't retried since he added them into the kernel. If when I retry it still doesn't work i'm going to recheck my cables to make sure they stayed on. I had to break/grind down the metal frame to get them to fit, so it was a tight squeeze.
I hate to double post, but I found the perfect solution for the switch. A reed switch or two plus a small magnet will work wonders
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8642
Edit: Here are the switches that I am buying, they're the cheapest spdt reed switches I could find: http://www.newark.com/hamlin/mdrr-dt-15-20-f/switch-reed-spdt-co-1-5a-175vdc/dp/24C6463
This will allow USB host to be activated constantly and then deactivated easily with a neodymium magnet to use adb, USB storage and whatnot.
I'm pleased that I found such an elegant solution, no need to mess up the housing to put in a switch
Wow. This si pretty cool... GPS already works without a new chip though lol
powerpoint45 said:
Wow. This si pretty cool... GPS already works without a new chip though lol
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How's that? There's neither Bluetooth nor a GPS module on our 1st gen KFs... Maybe we could get some if hash could work out the issues that prevent us from having BT support via OTG...
Or -maybe- you mean WiFi location (which is a dif. thing altogether)?
Stevethegreat said:
How's that? There's neither Bluetooth nor a GPS module on our 1st gen KFs... Maybe we could get some if hash could work out the issues that prevent us from having BT support via OTG...
Or -maybe- you mean WiFi location (which is a dif. thing altogether)?
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For people who typically have a cell phone in their pocket at all times, you can use the "TetherGPS" app which shares GPS info over wifi.
I would love to see BT working over OTG personally though...