I am trying to find a cradle for my xda2s that will allow me to plug in a GPS reciever and use the phone functions as well. The spotty oiks I have asked in various shops can't help and email help at various websites isn't particularly knowledgeable. I already have a nokia kit in my car from the previous owner and intend using the wiring from that if possible. I particularly like this one:
http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=A11XDA2SMNT&cat=113
but the details are scant on the site.
Anyone out there recommend anything to me???
GPS cradle
I've been looking for a similar thing and came across this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOLUX-CR100-G...QitemZ5826433844QQcategoryZ4668QQcmdZViewItem
I don't think you're obliged to buy it on eBay, but it's a start. What I'm wary about is that the microphone on the M2000 is on the bottom of the unit, so by plugging in as suggested in the picture on eBay would cover the microphone, and from memory the cradle uses the mic in the m2000. I haven't had the time to research this any further, but I hope this may help.
Related
Hi,
I'm planning to make a car kit for my xda2 using a second-hand car kit from another phone, a spare cradle and some creative thinking.
My aim is to make an installed car kit with the following features:
1) Charge the phone from the car battery.
2) All phone and pda audio to come from the car speakers, not the pda speaker.
3) Easy to put in and take out of cradle.
4) Able to use voice activated software via installed car mic.
I will document what I do (with photo's) here and try to put together a step-by-step guide, but I could use some help.
Has anyone tried this with any amount of success? I have seen the connector pin diagrams etc on the wiki site. Can anyone add to these?
Just as imporantly, has anyone tried this and fried their xda2??? :?
Please post your advice here and I'll let you know how I go.
Cheers,
Hooligan
Have tried it with a nokia cark91 but with no succes because the nokia cark91 uses the FBUS to activate certain features.
Didn't have enough knowledge of both to write a program which could emulate the FBUS protocol.
Will be watching your progress. Very interesting!
Success.
Mark
T-mobile can't build one, O2 can't build one, Catcomm can't build one, even i can't build one :roll: :mrgreen:
Why do you think you would succeed ?
Serious : All the info needed is on this site, and/or in my head. Theoreticaly it should work, but it doesn't.... Biggest problem is that the XDA2/MDA2 ONLY gives audio trough the bottom connector if you're in Call, so forget voicedialing or TomTom over the carkitspeaker.
Easyest solution is to build a carkit with you can connect to the headset connection.
Connectors ?
Hello
I seek the diagram of the connector 22 pins for XDA II
je fabrique un Kit main libre avec GPS
MERCI MERCI
Hi Alain,
Look here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors
Hi Jpiek,
thanks for the words of encouragement! :wink:
I'm studying the circuit diagrams for the nokia car kit I have obtained. I'll let you know how my experiments go...I have to agree, I think that the earphone jack may be the best way to go....
Hooligan
I spent many hours doing this with an XDA I, and got something sort of working but not what I really wanted. Here are some notes...
The XDA I has a horrible ground loop problem on both the input and output. I don't know if the II has the same problem, but I imagine so.
The output is very low, requiring a pre-amp. And because of the above, it had to be ground-isolated, which adds a lot of complexity (for someone like me who is MANY years past high school electronics class...).
Ericsson and Nokia car kits require some proprietary signalling in order to function, so they were useless as a starting base.
The built-in mic is actually quite usable in-car, producing a slightly hollow and distant sound but not horribly so. It has quite effective echo cancellation.
Thank you very for this address
who my permi to produce a connector for a SPV E200
but the stitching of the SPV M1000 does not correpond I
continue my research
goodbye
OK, looks like zapro has beaten me to the punch.
He has updated the connectors page in the wiki with a car kit wiring diagram and has started a new post - "Finally !!! DIY car-handsfree for XDA"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=11063
I'll keep experimenting as I don't think he has all of the audio output through the car stereo yet.
Well done Zapro!
hooligan said:
OK, looks like zapro has beaten me to the punch.
He has updated the connectors page in the wiki with a car kit wiring diagram and has started a new post - "Finally !!! DIY car-handsfree for XDA"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=11063
I'll keep experimenting as I don't think he has all of the audio output through the car stereo yet.
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Ofcourse not, his solution allready worked over here, but it wasn't good enough for me. For phone i use a BT headset. I want all audio !!
(Yes, i'm still trying..)
Yes it DOES work !!
Hehe, my homemade carkit DOES indeed work flawlessly !
I Have an extra box besides the electronics shown in the diagram, a box with a amplifier and some relays. when the phone rings, i press a button, that powers the amplifier and the relays, disconnecting the speakers from my car-radio and over to the little amplifier. i promised you some pictures here a day ago, but i don't think it's nice enough to show off yet. i need to make a new case for the amplifier and relays. the one i am using now is just a box from the junkcase.
I Will be back soon !
// Per
My XDA carkit was relativly easy ;
I opened the Tomtom cable on the XDA side and wired pin 2, 3 and 4 to a general Car-amplifier...
I used the internal mic, with a brodit holder: perfect!
Hi all
Has anyone any experience of the O2 Car Kit like this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=57252&item=6382293875
I'm well past the stage where I should have installed and be using one, (the car is a Diesel L/R Disovery Tdi, and not exactly quiet), but I'd like any opinions on the best to use, or any problems that might arise.
Althogh I have a BT GPS Unit, I dont use any Route Planning S'Ware, cause few have any usefull maps of Northern Ireland, so its the call audio I'm really interested in.
TIA for any opinions
Based on the pictures this carkit is the same as the QTek2020 / T-Mobile MDAII carkit.
It is said to be of very good quality.
BUT: It is also said that when using ie TomTom Navigator (or the like) your car-audio will be muted permanently.
This carkit was sold in Germany for approx 170 euro (about 110 gbp). So I would say the current auction price is rather high . . . .
I was not aware that O2 sold this carkit. I am using the XDAII carkit that is/was sold by ie. Expansys. The quality of that thing is not as good. Especially the mic sound is horrible for 'the other side'
BTW there are many threads on this (all approx 1 yr old)
Car Kit Query
Hi Ed
>>Based on the pictures this carkit is the same as the QTek2020 / T-Mobile MDAII carkit. It is said to be of very good quality.
Yes I agree, part of what drew me towards this one is the look of it.
>>BUT: It is also said that when using ie TomTom Navigator (or the like) your car-audio will be muted permanently.
I have considered this, and I'm not sure when or if I would use anything other than 'Pocket Streets', (and its maps of this area aren't that good either).
Most of the mapping I have been able to view provide street level detail, only in Larger Built up areas, and main routes connecting these.
Fortunately I already know my way between Belfast and other towns, As a result I dont know if TT or indeed any of the others would be of any real use. As a result, I really am more curious about the Call audio from the Speaker and Mic, during calls.
>>This carkit was sold in Germany for approx 170 euro (about 110 gbp). So I would say the current auction price is rather high . . . .
yes I found it on the T'mobile (D) site still on sale,
fully agree re the price but .... if it works ... then ... maybe ..
>>BTW there are many threads on this (all approx 1 yr old)
Yes and I think I managed to read most of them, I was sorta looking to see if someone else has lived with one of these for while, and have a experienced opinion on the it, any Rom Upgrades needed etc ...
I'm not sure how much more stress I am prepared to endure to get various aspects of this great unit to work as I hoped it would, (can't afford to be pulling on my hair much more these days)
I have yesterday just bought this car kit from the company advertising it on ebay, first of all the compnay are absolutly brilliant to deal with and would recommend them highly.
As for the car kit i have found three little niggles:
1) it isn't as easy as other car phone kits to place the xda2 into the holder, this is probably the case for most xda2 car kits due to the body of the xda2 itself.
2) any sound from the pda will mute the car radio, this so far hasn't been too much of an issue, but you can always just disconnect the car radio mute lead, but side effect of course is that you would have to turn the radio down when you recieve a call, however it is nice that the tomtom directions etc come out the car phone speaker loud and clear.
3) now this one may not be the car kit itself and maybe just that i haven't managed to find optimal settings or have missed a setting up procedure (if there is one). Basically there is a lot of background noise through the microphone, speech can be heard ok but i haven't experienced this amount of noise from any other kit, however i am going to try and relocate the mic to the middle of the car instead of up the windscreen frame near the driver door, this may solve this.
Apart from that it is a very easy kit to install (would recommend a professional install due to problems of bodged installs and car air bags!), it is of a very good physical quality and have seen it advertised for over £150 in the UK.
O2 car kit query
see now thats what I was hoping for.
thanks macca
I'm just about convinced
now just need to know where my wife hid my c'card ???
macca: Just a tip for the mic: Make sure the airstream from then vents does not reach the mic. I read several threads on background noise and most of them appeared to be created by the airstream blowing over the mic.
thanks edsub, i'll investigate that furthur, i maybe moving over to a orange m2000 soon as i have been offered an upgrade, unfortunatly it won't fit in my car kit, so i may have to sell it and get a xda2i instead. xda2 is great, i just miss the wlan.
david young, glad to have helped.
Brodit kits
I wonder if anyone has any experience of these Brodit Car Kits at pdahut? I do like the idea of ProClip Brodit have so you don't have to drill holes anywhere in your car. Any other suggestion?
http://www.pdahut.com/store/home.php?cat=378
I have Brodit and Carcomm cradles installed and they are both excellent. At the moment I have my XDAII in a Carcomm cradle which is powered and has a serial input cable to which you can connect a GPS Mouse or charge a BT GPS.
The Brodit cradles also have the option of an amplified speaker, in the photos you'll see my 2210 on the right of the steering wheel is connected to this type.
In the UK TotalPDA sell Carcomm and Handnav are the appointed Brodit resellers.
See here for images of the cradles in my car.
I too liked the idea of not drilling in my (leasecar) dashboard.
Afaik there are two options then:
Brodit Procip (plastic)
MTU dashmount (metal)
I opted for the MTU and decided to imitate it myself from a metal plate strip. Its quite easy from the MTU specifications:
http://www.mtu.no/english/DashMount/DM_pdf/70224.pdf
I managed the get the cables through the airvent that is now blocked by the carkit.
Now did I get a bargain or did I get a bargain.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5196552992&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
So long as you want it for an XDA rather than an XDAII then yes.
I have my 2i in a Brodit kit connected to the cigarette lighter and then a bluetooth Motorola HS810...works a treat. Luckily the 2i fits perfect as I got the cradle originally for the XDA2.
I've also got my TomTom wireless BT receiver on the dash...all work nicely (other than ongoing issues with phone mast transfers causing TT lockups)
Aww hell, I'll just take a picture and show you...my only wish is that on the Mini the holder was locked in a bit higher to show off when people drive past
A
PS - yes that IS a Care Bear...that my girlfriend puts there to "watch over me". I have one of those little dog things that Clintons Cards do (the ones with the big heads and little bodies) in the other cup holder. Thought I'd get that in now to avoid the "errr....is that a care bear?" questions!!
griffog said:
See here for images of the cradles in my car.
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Errr....just how many PDAs and phones do you want in your car?? Hehe...
They're not all used all of the time but I need them when performin comparison testing
Actually I tend to use TT Mobile 5 on a C500 most of the time now!
Griffog, yes it is for xda however I had an official car kit, the original I think for xda in the past and that would take an xda 2 quite happily although I never tried it out in the car it charged the xda 2 on the bench ok, what are the issues, is there a wiring difference preventing it working?
Hi there - I'm new to the forum.
I own an Orange SPV M1500 which I think is what you'd term a Himalaya here.
My partner bought me a great new car kit which has the typical thin xda connector port in it, but now the phone is behaving badly. The screen is wonky in several places and is not responding to taps.
My dilemma is this - Orange do not provide these phones any more and they don't provide phones with the same port connector on the bottom either.
So I either have to get rid of the cradle or somehow get another phone with this type of connector.
Does anyone know the current list of phones with this kind of connector? Or where I might be able to get hold of a replacement?
Thanks in advance.
I'm not too sure, but with most car kits you can buy replacement cradles, which i believe are relatively cheap compared to replacing the whole of the car kit, what car kit is it? perhaps a quick google search along the lines of replacement cradles might turn up something
Things are almost perfect. I'm in love with my Orbit. I've downloaded TomTom 6 to it and works great. I've also discovered that on the back of the phone, not only is there a socket for an external GPS but on the other side there is socket for I assume an external car aerial I have been using the Take n Talk car kit from THB with their modular cradles for some time now. Having an external aerial and a fully wired car kit is ace. Now all I want is the cradle for the Orbit for perfection!! If you haven't used a proper car kit you should check out the THB range. If like me you use a THB kit now please please please lobby them to produce the take and talk cradle for the Artemis, orbit HTC3300 etc. The contact page is: http://www.bury.com/technologies/GB/company/2/contact
and the main site is: http://www.bury.com/technologies/GB Don't forget in the UK fines will increase if you're not using a handfree car kit!!
Well, I got the above installed and had some questions,
1. How did you connect using the external aerial?
2. The camera button always comes on when I put the phone on the cradle. What a pain.
3. The cradle does not have any support at the base - phone would fall off when brakes are applied.
Did anyone else had this problem. I am using the Take and talk BT cradle with this car kit?
Thanks.
I also used THB for my previous phones . I had the same car kit in both our cars so we could swop cradles and when I upgraded my phone I simply bought a new cradle. I spoke several times to THB and theywill not produce the cradles for P3300 or P3600!...shame!
I have found a better solution I have a blue tooth car kit with its own sim card & aerial and I can couple up to 4 different bluetooth phones!......this way I now carry 2 phones in the car!
here is the web address the model I have is Audio com
http://www.funkwerkdabendorf.de
http://www.funkwerkdabendorf.de/con...?ID=4608&dbc=606ff437b7de9f08c473f7c0574d371b
regards
Rafiki
Chck out this
Hi. check out this site www.ishoppe.co.uk. Mobile phone accessories are available at cheap prices. may be you get your desire product from there.
Just replaced my XDA2i with an orbit and am trying to find a lead that will allow the orbit to work with the O2 speaker kit thingy. Looks like it's made by Ora / safe2talk and that they are standard things but you then buy an end cable to suit your phone. I have the Brodit mount, and the mic is wired behind the upholstery, so this seems the best solution, but if there is a better one I'd be grateful to know
Thanks
Mike