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not all xda IIs are created equal.

Me and a colleague both ordered xda IIs last week from 02. Me on Monday, him on Tuesday. His arrived the next day mine arrived on Friday. Wierd that.
Here's a couple of things that were not right with mine. The keyboard felt very loose. It moved very easily and could be opened with a shake of the phone. My colleagues was much tighter. Not a major problem but I felt it may open on it's own when in a jacket pocket etc
When the keyboard was closed you could easily see daylight when looking into the gap between the keyboard and phone body. The gap was large enough to accommodate 4/5 sheets of paper (thickness). My friend had no daylight and not even a single sheet of paper could be slid in between the keyboard and phone body. Squeezing the keyboard and phone body between finger and thumb would 'flex' the keyboard and cause this gap to close temporarily.
All in all not very impressive build quality. I didn't even charge it up, it went straight back in the box and was returned. I'm expecting another on Wednesday.

Thanks for the info, useful.
Did you purchase via 'Personal' online?
Or via 'Business' - I've just ordered one this way, now that the weblink is working after about 3 works of it not...
£179 + VAT, then get £16.50 +VAT tariff - 100 mins, 8p landline calls, data @ £1.50/mb).
I'll believe it when I see it... and shall look out for lousy keyboard. Odd, didn't think the Taiwanese could produce anything iffy - hopefully not a fundamental design flaw.
Tekguru at tekguru.co.uk even had a broke screen on delivery on his review model.

I got a Qtek 9090 2 weeks ago and I have to say that the space between the keyboard and the rest of the unit as well as the looseness of the keyboard is worrying me a bit. I hope it won't get worse because then it would not be acceptable any more...
Can anyone comment on the evolution of their unit over time with respect to these problems?
Thanks.

Received my replacement XDA IIs today. Keyboard / Gap is much better. Very pleased with it. There is some very slight lateral movement (<0.5mm) between the screen half and the body half ( when viewed head on ) but nothing serious. Better charge it up !

I got my XDAIIs on wednesday and had the same thing, i'll be sending mine back for a replacement as well

3 QTEKs all with different gaps
My 2 colleagues and I received our QTEKs last week, 2 with a slightly loose keyboard and 1 quite tight.

The good news is your not alone in the slider / keyboard gap issue
The bad news is the gap gets BIGGER with use
This may be adjustable , ie: tightening down. Does anyone know where to get a parts blowup of a PDA2K/O2 XDAIIs/QTEQ 9090 ? That may shed some needed light on this evolving problem.

Just got the XDAIIs from o2 today

Cant see any problems with it yet.
Slide down keyboard is stiff and secure, no gaps or loose
Screen has no yellow tinge
wifi works, but signal is low.
after reading some of the posts here in the days before my XDAIIs arrived
i was dredding it realy.
the problems i was reading made me feal like sending it back in return post.
BUT
as was said in one or two other posts, it looks like O2 have got the good stock
the wifi problem looks like its here, but saying that it works all round my house and threw walls here, so im happy there.
the signal isnt as strong as my laptop shows.
however driveing down the road, it picks up all sorts of wifi signals.
the volume of the outgoing voice sounds ok.
i mean ive asked a few callers and they say i sound fine.
i use the GPS mouse with a cable that splits to the car ciggy lighter
it was a worry i had (from reading posts here) that it wouldnt fit.
back when i got the gps mouse there wasnt a cable for my XDAII so i took a chance and got the one for the XDA,
it woked fine on my XDAII charging and working the GPS mouse.
so.....
today i tryed the XDAIIs AND IT WORKED !!!
i wish i could remember the name of the mouse, i will look tomorrow for you guys.
but GPS WIRED MOUSE/CHARGER for XDA works on the XDAII and XDAIIS
(without forceing the plug in)
if i find any major problems i will post here in this thred..

I'm on my 3rd O2 xdaIIs and it's a good one ( stiff keyboard/no gaps/no yellow ) all working and I'VE DROPPED IT. Chipped some of the paint of down the left hand side near the camera/record/volume buttons. gutted.

xda iis is it a good buy?
I'm looking into getting the xda iis after january and looking for all the pros and cons. have read it has a bad quality screen unlike the xda ii or iii,...I'm not up to date on things nor do I know a great deal on technology, (only what looks good)...but I don't like to have to use a stylus and have fairly big hands.. I'm sure you have seen about all the flaws and problems relating to this phone/pda...but what do you think first hand, now after having and using it yourself? And also if I might ask, does it meet your standards or live up to your expectations...? Any comments or ideas? I personally don't know whether to look forward to it, or to wait for something else. :?

If you don't like using a stylus, I'm curious as to why you would want a Pocket PC. Even with the thumb keyboard, you need to use the stylus most of the time. Would a Nokia 9500 not suit you better?
As for big hands, my glove size is 12 (or XXXL) and I have little problem with the keyboard on the XDAIIs.
There are quite a few negative comments on here regarding the IIs, but they seem to be based on earlier units, suggesting there were problems with the first batch. My IIs seemed to be part of a later batch and has no physical problems (keyboard is nice and tight, no yellow tint unless I view from a crazy angle, wifi works really well) though the bluetooth software is still dodgy (waiting on O2 to test and release the patch) and there are a few really minor bugs that will be ironed out.
But if you don't want to use a stylus, I would think long and hard about getting a Pocket PC. They are designed to be used with a stylus. The keyboard is really there to augment the normal, pen-based input; not to replace it.

stylus for blue angel
It's not that I dislike the stylus, I just don't want to use it all the time and don't want it to be the only option as on the xda II. I don't mind it for applications and bits, but not too much word input. It puts me off a bit. I do like the keyboard option on the II s, as I have had a look and feel of the II s and was highly impressed by what I saw. It definately suits me (as long as it is a good one and not full of bugs)...as far as nokia....I have never liked any of them... just personal prefs really. I've been wanting a pocket pc as I find they are really interesting and you can do a lot with them, however I'm a bit slow when it comes to knowing what's what when it comes to things like this. Are you happy with yours?

Just got mine, the screen seems ok no yellowish color, havent had chance to play with the Wifi yet.
The keyboards a different story like, seems really loose and really doing my head in, you would think it would lock in quite tight like my samsung e800
How have you gone about getting 02 to swap yours?

Are you guys basically reporting that you have NO yellow on your screen?? Unless I look straight on my pda2k has a substantial yellowing. It's starting to bug me...

limp brodit

anyone else found that the Brodit 'active' car holder for the universal is next to useless now that the weather is getting warmer ?
i.e. the rotating ball has become loose after only having it for a few weeks and minimal use, and it doesn't support the weight of pda.
just curious if it is only mine - and i'll have to superglue the rotating ball into one position, or its a common prob and other people should avoid getting the same car holder.
The Brodit holder is attached to the "universal" goosebeck suction mount from mobilefun, which was fine for holding a xda2i - but the rotating ball on the gooseneck is even looser and has already been superglued since it cannot support weight of the active holder+xdaExec

Funny you should say that. I bought a brodit holder about 3 weeks ago for my MDA Pro, It's a great product, but I now carry a screwdriver in the car to tighten the ball socket up against the backing plate every now and then.
I've also noticed the hot weather has made a big difference in the performance of the mount.

I have not noticed it yet, but it is a worry I have had. Since I don't need to use the swivel, when it finally does get loose, I probably will just position the swivel where I want it, tighten the screw as much as i can, and then put glue around swivel mechanism.

how to tighten the ball-joint
I've also found that the mechanism isnt supporting the weight anymore, when i put my mda in the position i want, it slowly sags down until it rests on the dashboard... very anoying!
I looked if i could fasten the ball-joint again, but i cant reach it since at one side the gooseneck is stuck on it, and at the otherside the actual holder is attached with a sticker.
so i cant get either side loose in such a way that i can stick it back on again..
or am i missing something here?
is my brodit holder that much different than yours? because this seemed to be the only way to connect the parts, using the supplied dual-side stickers.

Hmm. Looking at the clip that holds the phone, you should see a deep hole in the middle of it. The screww to tighten the ball joint is in that hole. See the bottom right picture in this set, and you will see the hole:
http://www.brodit.com/news.jsp?path=static/news/int/051101.html
Maybe the is a sticker covering the hole?

Hi All,
The sticker is on the back of the tilt and swivel plate (the part that detaches - to be fitted to the proclip or gooseneck)
It would be a good idea to check that the sticker that covers the bolt is in place and that the bolt is alligned correctly and firmly in place.
Then as kindly mentioned in previous post, relocate the holder and its central large screw into the back plate and ensure it is tighted well.
I have not had any complaints on this myself, but I shall drop a note to Brodit about this to ask if they have had any other issues with the tilt and swivel mechanism.
I have to say im alarmed though to read this, Brodit gear is usually recogised as the best quality holder available.
Thanks all,
Bryson

I already worked around the problem by just bending the goosneck in such a way that it wasnt a problem that the ball-joint was in its lowest position.
But yesterday i had the time to look into this again.
indeed, there is a deep hole which gives access to the screw in the ball-joint.
problem solved...
feel kinda stupid though...
a/ i didnt notice the screw in that hole myself
b/ i wasted a month before i accepted the advice given on this forum..
but thanks anyway, my brodit is now as good as new!

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feel kinda stupid though...
a/ i didnt notice the screw in that hole myself
b/ i wasted a month before i accepted the advice given on this forum..
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XDA Orbit 2 - Replacement rubber scroll wheel

I bought my Orbit 2 a couple of months ago and very happy with it , but just the other day the rubber ring on the scroll wheel disappeared, obviously it fell off somehow, the glue not strong enough i guess.
Rather than have to send my XDA back for repair and wait 10 days, i'd prefer to get the rubber ring and stick it on myself. The wheel still works, but not so effective without the friction of the rubber. Does anyone know where i may be able to get the part from?
thanks
Rob

Mines gone as well. Is it possible to get spares anywhere? Did you get yours sorted Rob?

I had a longlong chat with the support. They told me that I have to sent my phone in for repair (what takes rather long since I am living in Austria and now have to send it to Germany). I could kill HTC for this. All I need is that rubber.

you could check if there exists an "O-ring" seal that fit in the whell,
at least this is what I would do...
Ste

the same has happened to mine. I found mine on the floor ,didnt know what it was and binned it. a week later I noticed it was missing ion my orbit2 lol. o2 has told me you cannot buy spares ,and also even thought my orbit2 was only a month old,external parts not covered in the warranty .basically 60quid and a long wait if I want it repaired . I ain't happy .

Same has happened to mine and having previously owned an original Orbit. I prefer the originals ball roller compared to the ring & button on the Orbit 2.
Step back me thinks...

I bought 225 pieces of Rubber O-rings off ebay and some super glue and it is sorted for me. But then I sold the phone and bought my self a brand new one with the original ring. Any one needs link for the O-rings please let me know.

Same problem for me too... do you have that link for the o rings or has anyone managed to source the actual part?
Thanks,
Tom

My scroll wheel has fallen off.
Does anybody have any info/links for replacements?
Anybody successfully replaced their scroll wheel?

the same sh*t happend to me -> I called to to O2 authority, and they rejected my claims as it is external part. Then I came to one of the O2 stores in Saturn and withdrew the ring from the exhibition phone Ok, maybe its not that fair, but I see no other way

the overall build quality of the orbit 2 is poor in comparison to the origonal i find the whole thing verry plastiky i have also just got off the phone to O2 and have explaned that the rubber on the touch weel has come off and they wanted to send me a new phone lol i advised them a repair would be sufficant and they are sending me a returns bag to have the item fixed. i didnt even have to get angry just explaind the problem and that i have researched it on the net and found many otheres have had the same issue and the wonderfull lady just said sorry ill get this sorted for you. i couldnt beleve it all god customer service for me it seems lol

update they replaced the phone for me as i hadnt herd back from them regards return and i seem to have a spare unit as they sent the new one but it wasnt to be dispatched till they receaved the old one oops lol now how to fix that dam wheel ?????? lol

Assistance with Car Holder

Hi There!
A few years ago I bought for my HD2, a air vent holder which has proved to be excellent. Recently I tried to move it to a new car, and broke a peice. I thought replacing the holder would be easy but most are junk compared to what I had. It's one bit that is broken and I am hoping someone might be able to look at this picture and tell me what this part is called or described as so I can just get another.
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/913/20120121130259.jpg
From the original which is :
http://www.amazon.com/Buybits-Swivel-Mount-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B004RAXCZO
I just one of those little spring clamps. I otherwise like my existing holder and I don't want one of the others which aren't as good (It's not about the price).
Anyone able to assist?

networkn said:
Hi There!
A few years ago I bought for my HD2, a air vent holder which has proved to be excellent. Recently I tried to move it to a new car, and broke a peice. I thought replacing the holder would be easy but most are junk compared to what I had. It's one bit that is broken and I am hoping someone might be able to look at this picture and tell me what this part is called or described as so I can just get another.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...ringclamp.jpg/
From the original which is :
http://www.amazon.com/Buybits-Swivel...ata/B004XLDN9C
I just one of those little spring clamps. I otherwise like my existing holder and I don't want one of the others which aren't as good (It's not about the price).
Anyone able to assist?
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Sorry about that, fixed now.
The first picture has changed from the original, but it's the little spring bits separate from the holder I'd like to replace, or if I can find something similar to the original I'll take that as well.
I don't like suction cap options.

No-one able to assist with locating a similar peice or item?
Thanks if you can assist.

Hi,
i think it would be much easier to buy a new holder, than to look for a spare part to your holder..
or try to search in ebay for similar ones... something form china, so you dont have to spend much money for shipping. there you should find hundreds of different mounting systems. for example this one:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/for-HTC-Incr...084?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fbeb7afc
i think its a similar one, though it doesnt have a spring system. but i think this small plug should fit with your system...