I've tried a couple of them, only to have them lock up or be an issue when a phone call comes in. Anyone know of a solidly written, fully compatible, and Phone Edition-friendly software that will replace the Password applet? I'd like to utilize anything, from a signature recognition to picture password or other security method. The vanilla applet supplied with Windows Mobile 2003 is not bad, but sometimes when you don't have a stylus handy, trying to hit the tiny OK button when you enter a wrong password is a little frustrating.
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Hey there,
I use 1and1 for my exchange access and they require you to use some sort of security enforcement policy on your phone. On windows 5 I was able to put in a 4 digit pin and set it to only ask me for it after 24 hours of non-use. It also asked me for it on reboot. I keep my keypad locked because there's nothing I hate more than having my phone dial random people. To do this of course, I just held down the end key untill the screen locked. To unlock it, I just pressed the center button on the d-pad and the asterisk key. Everything was peachy.
Well in windows 6, they still require me to enter a PIN in and everything, BUT I cannot change the time in which it requires me to enter my pin to unlock. Additionally, every time I screen lock my phone I have to enter my PIN which is incredibly annoying.
Is there some sort of reg hack that I can fix this with?
No, the point of security enforcement is to protect the device from having sensitive data stolen and as a result these kinds of policies can not be overridden through any fashion except settings on the exchange server. You need to contact 1and1 and ask them to remove this policy, or switch to another exchange provider.
4SmartPhone doesn't pull this stuff.
Thanks for the response, but I don't think I made myself clear enough.
I don't want to bypass the security, I don't care about that.
I just don't want to have to enter my password every time I want to use my phone. Who does that?
Start>Settings>security>device lock
from there you should be able to adjust the phone's lock settings.
whether you want to get round it or not, it is most likely the policy set at 1 & 1's end and they need to adjust it at their end....
it might be that this function on the exchange works differently on the server cos it is windows mobile 6.
As WM6 is optimised for Exchange 2007, it could be a bug in the MS Activesync set up when using these policies on an exchange 2003 SP2 server.
I don't have a WM6 excalibur, but i can test it with an S710 and our Exchange 2007 server if you want....?
One more thought, delete the exchange partnership, and then go into the lock settings. Turn the lock on and set it to 24 hours.
Then go back in and turn it off. the time settings should stay at 24 hours even though it is turned off.
Then set up the exchange server. if you are lucky, it might just stay at 24 hours instead of the OS default of 0 minutes.
Be lucky....
try this:
Enable changing password lock time:
In the registry do the following:
\hklm\security\policies\policies\00001023 from 0 to 1.
i have the same problem with 1and1 using a cavalier with wm6. my real problem is that sometimes at startup the device gets stuck in t9 and will not recognize the numbers in my pin so i have to hard reset the device. 1an1 say they have nothing to do with the security password and will not help
Disable T9
Heh-heh, I never liked the T9 thingie on my T-Mobile Dash/HTC Excalibur. To turn the T9 on and off (toggle) press alt and then press space. This should toggle the T9 function of WM6 smartphones. At least, it did on my Dash.
Now, on with my crusade to unlock my Dash!!...
turning the t9 off is the same on the cavalier, but the problem is that sometimes this test rom decides to turn it back on at start up and other times it does not. it is really pissing me off.
thanks for the suggestion though. i just really need a way to dissable this security password.
joedm said:
try this:
Enable changing password lock time:
In the registry do the following:
\hklm\security\policies\policies\00001023 from 0 to 1.
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The phone gives an error screen and says "unable to perform this operation".
on my wm5 ppc i removed the exchange account yet I can't turn off the pin security. Now thats annoying.
you can also try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1269318&postcount=7
I haven't tried it myself =)
joedm said:
you can also try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1269318&postcount=7
I haven't tried it myself =)
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cool that worked thanks!
Before you can change the registry keys, you need to run the "Application and CID" unlock program provided on this site. I did it on my Cavalier and it worked like a charm.
Any ideas anyone?
Hey mtvkilledusall -
Did you ever get this figured out? It is annoying the ****e out of me!!!
I'm the Exchange admin, and I'm considering turning off this "feature" for my device.
Like you, I just want to be able to KEYLOCK the device (so it doesn't dial 911 in my pocket, etc.), but I'd still like to keep the security.
This used to work fine on my MDA. Very annoying.
mtvkilledusall said:
Hey there,
I use 1and1 for my exchange access and they require you to use some sort of security enforcement policy on your phone. On windows 5 I was able to put in a 4 digit pin and set it to only ask me for it after 24 hours of non-use. It also asked me for it on reboot. I keep my keypad locked because there's nothing I hate more than having my phone dial random people. To do this of course, I just held down the end key untill the screen locked. To unlock it, I just pressed the center button on the d-pad and the asterisk key. Everything was peachy.
Well in windows 6, they still require me to enter a PIN in and everything, BUT I cannot change the time in which it requires me to enter my pin to unlock. Additionally, every time I screen lock my phone I have to enter my PIN which is incredibly annoying.
Is there some sort of reg hack that I can fix this with?
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Same issue here after upgrading from Samsung Blackjack 1 to a Blackjack II, WM6 and 1and1 Exchange server. On top of that, after configuring exchange, my phone also looses the menus quick access numbers. Very frustrating.... Anyone found a fix yet?
Thierry.
I've had a quick poke around and cant find anything obvious about tweaking the activesync security settings so it doesnt lock out after the configured time when running an app such as TomTom, bit useless if it keeps doing it realy. Our Policiy is max 20 mins before the device locks. bit of a PITA if youre trying to navigate your way somewhere.. anyone got any ideas??
I'm having the same problem. I have my device setup with MS Exchange and the password lock is set to kick after 5mins. Annoying for navigation software.
Any more info on this?
yep there's a small app attached, once installed it intercepts the exchange policy push which allows you to set the lock to kick in when you want it or just to switch it off, I would suggest that you use it with caution, as you would be breaching your company's security policy, e.g. only disable the password when you are using tomtom, the rest of the time you should set it to whatever your company security policy is.
Disclaimer, I am not telling you to use this so you use it at your own risk.
Nice one- seems to be working a treat.
Ok.. I have searched high and low and cannot find the answer.
I have a Sprint Touch Pro 2 I just received today for work. It is replacing my HTC Mogul. My work now has an Exchange 2007 server that they are able to lock down pretty much anything. I was able to get around these security measures with just a reg hack on my Mogul which had WM 6.0.
Now that I have my Touch Pro 2 I am unable to find out how to work around the issues. Here they are in no particular order:
1. I cannot install any CAB files or programs through active sync if the program does not have a trusted certificate.
2. I cannot launch Remote Desktop Client. It says I have been blocked from doing this.
3. I cannot make registry edits
I have hard reset the phone and then I am able to install anything and do anything. The second after I sync my phone to my work's exchange 2007, I cannot do anything listed above.
Here is what I have done:
http://www.etenblog.com/2008/01/21/disable-exchange-security-policy-for-windows-mobile-devices/
Everyone else with earlier versions of phones have reported some success with this, and the ones that did not received no advice. When I go to my registry, that specific key located at "HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies\00001023" Already has a value of 1, which would lead me to believe it is disabled. It is the same way when I freshly hard reset it. I would assume after the Exchange 2007 sync, that reg key would change to a value of 0 but it doesn't.
So this leads me here, asking if any of you have encountered the same problem. Does my company have me beat? I just wouldn't see why when my Mogul was reg hacked to not load their policy for the password.. which leads me to one last point that is very odd..
When resynced my Mogul to my company's Exchange, it specifically had me set up some sort of PIN to unlock the phone every time I wanted to use it. When I sync my Touch Pro 2, it does not ask me to set up a PIN and it doesn't even ask me for a previous PIN that I would have used on my Mogul. Any thoughts to all of this?
I lived with the Exchange policy of phone lock for few years and finally don't have this issue after installing Stay Unlock on my TP2
http://journal.zenyee.com/2008/10/19/stay-unlock-goes-20-after-two-years/
For certificates issue try Advanced Config Tool 3.3
Not sure about Remote Desktop one. Above might fix it, or try install another remote app that supports RDP
thanks for the help! Unfortunately I had to sync my phone back to exchange so when I run Advanced config (which I had installed before the sync) says it cannot be opened because it does not have a trusted certificate.. GRRR
I've used Sony Ericsson phones before I went over to WM-phones, and on the SE phones there is a standard app that is very simple, but genious.
It is a very simple app to remember your pin numbers and/or passwords.
It works kind of like this:
At first use, you select a password and a control word. You enter the password every time you enter the program and it then displays your control word so you can check that you wrote the right password.
Whatever password you enter at program startup will get you inside, no error messages or anything. But entering the wrong passord will also display your control word wrong - whatever it might be. When inside all stored pins/passwords are displayed, but only if you write the correct password when entering they are correct. That way someone not knowing the password will not be able to tell if they actually guessed the password as the "pin numbers" show anyway, but with completely randomized numbers. So they are basically just waisting their time.
Not sure if I managed to explain so anyone can understand or if there is such an app already? I've tried dosens of wallet apps, but not succeded in finding one that is as simple and good as the one in SE phones.
I've been wanting something like this for a while. I can't use the last one I had (Flexwallet) since I had to hard reset and lost the registration number.
There are bunch of free apps to do this on your Windows Mobile device:
Cryptowallet
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cryptowallet.html
KeePassPPC
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-keepassppc-v0-4-4.html
LockCrypt
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-lockcrypt.html
Blender
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-blender-v1-1.html
eSec
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-esec-v1-0.html
You can also browse some more security related apps here:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-secur.html
Hope that helps !
If you are interested in iPhone like interface, check this out
Password Safe
It's free too.
Anyone here tell me what the actual setting in the Exchange Active Sync profile causes this error? I am working with my IT group to get back access to the Exchange server that is currently locked out because of a missing security setting.
Microsoft dissed me, Samsung blames Exchange, Exchange peeps won't budge with out direction and I love my phone so I won't go back.
Thanks,
Brian
It has to do with security policies... It could be a number of things (I think on the older WM6 phones, sometimes it actually would tell you why)...
Your IT department should be able to look at logs on their side to find out why it's not being passed...
Keep in mind, this could be something as easy as you not having a pin password when you use your phone (phone lock). But if your IT department have changed default settings, it could be something more complicated.
First off, I would set a phone lock password, and try setting up the sync. If that doesn't work, you'll have to wait for your IT department.
Zhariak said:
It has to do with security policies... It could be a number of things (I think on the older WM6 phones, sometimes it actually would tell you why)...
Your IT department should be able to look at logs on their side to find out why it's not being passed...
Keep in mind, this could be something as easy as you not having a pin password when you use your phone (phone lock). But if your IT department have changed default settings, it could be something more complicated.
First off, I would set a phone lock password, and try setting up the sync. If that doesn't work, you'll have to wait for your IT department.
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Thank you for the response. I have tried several gyrations of password before Exchange add, Exchange delete and reinstall, number of things. The real puzzling thing is that the settings they have shown me from screen grabs are all supported by WP7. I posted the error code on the Windows Phone boards at MS and no response yet. I have seen other codes for security issues, this one seems to be a lot more obscure. I was hopping someone could bust out a decoder ring so I could just tell our IT guys what to do (pretty common).
I told them about being able to circumvent the password lock in Win6.5 with a simple registry edit, blew their minds.
IT found the fix, sort of. They rebuilt the security policy as part of an another user issue and the phone syncs correctly. Apparently, importing the security policy from Exchange 2003 into 2010 brings along some baggage.
Still no clue what actually caused it, but if anyone else around the web finds this thread because of the error code, ask your peeps to rebuild the policy. They will have other issues besides yours, eventually.