Hi all,
Is there a way to disable or remove the radio (phone) software. (not switching to flight-mode, or there must be a way to keep it in flight-mode, so i can switch it on/off with a password or something)
My goal is that the Qtec2020 doesn't have any phone capabilities. is there a way?
or
Is there a way to completly disable GPRS / Data??
thx in advance
why get a gsm pda then ?
to disable grps you can just remove all the settings for it
when i exit flight mode i have to type in my sim card pin code just like when i softreset my device guess that depend on the sim and network
here everybody have it to make it impossible to use if people steal it
ok why buy a gsm pda
well we at our company sell software, and the customer will rent the qtec 2020, we don't want our customers to use them as phones.
that's the only reason why i want to disable radio/phone..
we have more that 30 on stock and we don't want to buy new ones
hope that someone can help me.
btw.
hopefully a solution in which we are able to restore everything to it's state in which the phone can be used again. in case our application is going to use gprs/data
you could also put a prepaied sim card in it without any money on
of cause they would still be able to put in their own sim then
otherwise you need a program which keep all phone activity from happening this dont really sound like a program which are out there because of lack of demand maybe you could get somebody to make it
but the program would have to be put in the extented rom to be sure it would still be there if the user hardresets the device
and then you cant really stop a person who knows how to edit the extented rom from removing the program
that is unless you would be willing to open and remove the gsm part of the device
but removing the gprs settings would require the user to know how to set them up again and which settings to put there
and judging from how many people ask about such things here the normal user would not know how to do that
Delete all links to Cprog.exe (Phone Dialer)
then I believe there is a Reg Key that will remove
Turn ON-OFF Flight mode..
You will also need to unmap Green Phone Button.
That's all i can help you!
can't find a reg key
is there no such thing as a dummie radio-stack???
upgrading the PDA with a dummie radio-stack??, or leave the radio-stack out of the upgrade process?? (enough pda's without gsm phone :wink: )
just thoughts!!
thx in advance
upgrading the PDA with a dummie radio-stack??, or leave the radio-stack out of the upgrade process?? (enough pda's without gsm phone
Well yes you could kill the radio stack by forcing error on upgrade I suppose.
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Hi guys,
Recently installed the latest ROM offered by O2 onto my XDA2s, having firstly been incredibly frustrated that I'd lost all my txt messages and installed applications, I have since found that the phone locks up almost daily now - it particularly seems to be whenever switching the phone on/off with the topright power button - at which stage it'll just freeze.
Sometimes when making a call, I'll dial the number, and when ringing starts, switch the phone display off so as to save batteries, when doing the same since the ROM update, the phone seems to hang.
VERY frustrated, anyone any ideas, or experiencing the same?
Another question, with Bluetooth Audio, is there any way to stream a telephone call through my PC via a bluetooth link allowing me to chat/hear through the PC instead of the phone?
And finally, does anyone else find the Network Connections settings on the PocketPC OS incredibly stupid, confusing and impossible to accurately setup for Internet access through Wireless/Bluetooth??
Cheers, Ash
this may help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18350
follow the above thread. I found by doing what it said about removing o2 active stuff I havent had to soft reset since..
I would also add that I have also upgraded to radio rom 1.12.00 and Blue tooth 3900 (shortly after so not certain it was due just to that but likely)
If I can be any help at all PM me and I will try and assist maybe talk on instant messenger..
But I must repeat it hasnt locked since the above and the battery life seems much much greater.... for instance I left it on from 6pm last night until 7am this morning and it appeared to loose only 10% battery including making a couple of calls..
I would do it again with and uk xda2s
Hope that helps
as for the rest of your questions no idea LOL
Stay happy
Thanks for your reply, I did install the upgrade in Corporate mode having read that thread first, but its still installed all the O2 Active stuff - so should I now remove the bits from my Startup folder that relate to O2?
Also, I now cannot find any easy way to disconnect GPRS once its connected????
yep
I would get rid of the active bits as said.. to disconnect gprs simply press and hold the red hang up button
I will look again at your posts and answer anything else I can.. dont know if you have noticed but this site is slow so sorry for the delay in replying
have you upgraded the radio rom and BT version?????
stay happy
did you enter a corporate code when setting up in corporate mode?
0506 i belive
stay happy
Ahhhhh, I thought Corporate Code was for the screen password lock or something, so I just entered my usual code - should I rewrite the rom upgrade again, or can I run the setup program separately on the XDA to enter the 0506 code??
I'm currently running...
Rom V: 1.31.00 WWE
Rom Date: 12/13/04
Radio V: 1.06.00
Protocol: 1337.38
ExtRomV: 1.31.139 WWE
Is that the latest? got from the official O2 website.
Thanks also for the GPRS disconnect, that helps, shame it doesn't tell you, hehe!
you should just be able to do a hard reset and put it into corporate mode. do a backup first though..
The versions you are running are the latest from O2 I think.... however you can find the ones I am using on this forum... I have found them much better and if you are going to do a hard reset you might want to do them first....
anything else just shout..
stay happy
Yeah but if you back up then you are backing up the O2 active stuff as well. When you do a hard reset and choose corporate ok. But when you use backup restore the O2 active gets restored. I use Sprite as backup and i can't see offhand how to backup everything EXCEPT the O2 active stuff so that it won't reinstall on a restore. I've manually put back all my progs etc and then backed up so O2 Active won't come back.
I have to say that the latest O2 Rom update using the personal rather than corporate mode is a disaster. My phone was locking up every day. I was getting really p***** off with it. Now I have got shot of the O2 active stuff everything works fine.
Hi
Here are the instructions I got form Brian at O2 data Support. Back up to PC rather than storage card and restore from there. Here goes:
Workaround - setup a 'Corporate' install that doesn't include the Active
User Interface
Before starting insure important data is saved by syncing to Outlook on your
PC if needed (do not use backup/restore)
* Hard reset.
* Near the end of the custom applications auto-install you will be
given a choice of "Corporate" or "Personal". You should choose "Corporate".
Note: you will only have approx 5 seconds to choose this option, after which
the 'Personal' option will be automatically selected
* You will be asked for a pin. Enter 0506 (that's zero five zero
six) and tap Finish
* You will see the message "Welcome corporate user, O2 Active won't
be installed". Your device is now ready and you will have everything except
the Active User Interface.
Important: the mobile web, WAP and mms settings WILL still be preset.
Hope this helps
Regards
Chris
Hi,
I'm looking for a software to manually lock my Qtek 9090 on a specific GSM cell (or a specific antenna, somehow). It's very easy to do such a thing on my old Nokia using the hidden menus, but I never found a Pocket PC application that can do that. Any idea ?
Hi yannl,
this shouldn't be a big deal for those how know how to program such a thingy. I assume it should be possible to block the phone program from calling (or even simpler and uglier simply to kill it's process) when you are not in the "right" cell.
As dutty's cell profiler is able changes diverse settings or even launch apps, etc. depending on the cell you're in, it shouldn't be too difficult to realize your wish...
HTH,
BGK[/url]
Thanks. I contacted Cell Profiler to ask them about a feature like that. But I'm very surprised that no software around allows to lock on a cell.
why would you like to do so ?
locking phone to a specific cell/BTS/WTS
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please tell if there is any way to lock the phone to specific Scrambling code or a BTS, needs it for some testing.
hey guyz..
the scene is set, dont want to tell anyone where it happened by whom and ofcourse who got robbed but here's the story.
User had an o2 Xda II, customized rom, with IIWPO Theft Control installed in the rom, so that means hard reset wont wipe IIWPO out of the pda.
Robber comes puts a knife on the user's throat takes away cash and the pda, user gives it happily thinking she will get a msg on the other number with all the info of sim changed.
4 days pass by no info come's and the pda is sold or forwarded to someone else or whatever. END OF STORY.
now how did the user not get a msg of the new sim info.
1. SIM WAS NOT CHANGED.
2.SIM CHANGED BUT NO CREDIT IN NEW SIM.
3.BATTERY TAKEN OUT PDA TOTALLY DEAD TILL NEW CUSTOMER GETS IT. ETC ETC.
WHAT CAN BE DONE.
ok guyz this is the part where i would like allll the geeks & gurus to put in some effort, i know it will be tough but i have a feeling its not impossible.
CAN UR,LL UPDATE IIWPO IN SUCH A WAY THAT WHEN WE ARE FEEDING OUR NAME AND OTHER INFO IT WILL ALSO ASK FOR A SECURITY PASS TO BE PUT IN, SO THAT WHEN ROBBER CHANGES SIM THE IIWPO RECOGNIZES THE SIM CHANGE AND LOCK'S THE PDA AND ASKS FOR THE PASS, AND WONT UNLOCK TILL PASS PROVIDED, REBOOT WONT HELP.
Now ofcourse the robber can be anyone, so the robber plans to hard reset and still the device would recognize the sim change and ask for pass now so annoyed he plans to flash the device and what happens after that all of us know.
To prevent this THE GEEKS & GURUS can just build a small security patch that can wont allow flashing of device till pass given, it would work like this, we flash our device for the first time install IIWPO and the NEW SECURITY PATCH (with passwords) device is robbed, robber changes the sim gets pass error he gets pissed and tries to flash the device and that clever software would not flash the device till pass provided, this would prove that all the efforts the robber made to steal the device are gone to waste.
And ofcourse someday someone might put in a sim with credit and we would get the info.
NOT FORGETTING CHARLES WARNER FOR THE GREAT WORK HE'S PUT IN FOR ALL xda-developers.com USERS and also giving the IIWPO to us for free, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK SIR !! THANKS ALOT.
no one interested in being secured ?
I think the IIWPO idea can definitely be improved, BUT: It will never protect you from being robbed.
The true advantage of IIWPO in its currect form is to be able to get track of the 'new' owner of a nicked device. In the end: someone will put in his/her sim and then its just bing!
All other enhancements will just make sure noone else gets to use the device. Sure an improvement, but less important to me: I just want my device back and get the thief nailed!
Interesting...
But I think you have misunderstood how IIWPO works.
IIWPO does not detect if someone changes the SIM card. It ONLY acts when the someone changes the Owner Information (Start/Settings/Owner Information), so no matter what SIM card there is, as long as it has credit it will send an SMS to the recipient's phone number. That's the beauty of it, that it silently sends the SMS with the 'new' users data so there is a slight chance of knowing who's the 'new' owner.
But! This is by no means fool proof. It's what they call 'protection by obscurity', so if a savvy robber knows how to reflash the device it will get away with it no matter what features we can integrate to IIWPO.
That's one of the cool new features of WM5.0, that we can at least know for sure that our data is SAFE by wiping the info remotely if necessary.
Just a thought.
Rayan
edsub said:
The true advantage of IIWPO in its currect form is to be able to get track of the 'new' owner of a nicked device.I just want my device back and get the thief nailed!
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so if a savvy robber knows how to reflash the device it will get away with it no matter what features we can integrate to IIWPO
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ofcourse this is why we all love IIWPO cause it sends use a msg, and ofcourse even if someone was to modify IIWPO iam sure that this feature would'nt wipe out.god forbid you get robbed u get a msg frm the cell but you for some reason cant track the person or some other c#@p...and the pda is gone....WHY caz it only sends sms it does not block the screen....if you were to have a feature which would jam or freeze the pda on change of the name then the pda would be useless to the robber nothing much he could do....unless he knows how to flash it...now comes a part where we can do something about not flashin the device with out a pass....this would totally make the pda useless to the robber and would also keep sendin us msgs and secondly the robber maybe maybe next time might think twice before robbing a pda and might go for something else
How about a device that would be installed internally to the xda and if it is stolen and a different sim/different user info is entered and the person makes a call it fires a large captive bolt which nails the phone to the head of the user, it then adjusts itself to full volume with all lights flashing and announcing "This is a stolen phone...call an ambulance...or hearse".,
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How about a device that would be installed internally to the xda and if it is stolen and a different sim/different user info is entered and the person makes a call it fires a large captive bolt which nails the phone to the head of the user, it then adjusts itself to full volume with all lights flashing and announcing "This is a stolen phone...call an ambulance...or hearse".,
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tht would be great..... are u goood enough to build something like tht ?
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But I think you have misunderstood how IIWPO works.
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I perfectly understands the IIWPO functionality. It was me who put together IIWPO for other devices than Wallaby.
Let me explain how my earlier post should be interpreted: Sure it is triggered by the change of owner info, but most thieves (or buyer from a stolen device) will put in another SIM (simply because they dont have the pin of the stolen sim or because the stolen sim is blocked by the network). Thus: As soon as the 'new' owner puts in a SIM AND he/she has changed the owner info (and every one does that!) the sms is sent.
Also: Eventually a thief might flash a device, but ost certain a thief (or buyer) starts it up to test whether its working or not.
Imho IIWPO can be improved, but practically chances of getting a device back will not significantly improve
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Rayan said:
But I think you have misunderstood how IIWPO works.
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I perfectly understands the IIWPO functionality. It was me who put together IIWPO for other devices than Wallaby.
Let me explain how my earlier post should be interpreted: Sure it is triggered by the change of owner info, but most thieves (or buyer from a stolen device) will put in another SIM (simply because they dont have the pin of the stolen sim or because the stolen sim is blocked by the network). Thus: As soon as the 'new' owner puts in a SIM AND he/she has changed the owner info (and every one does that!) the sms is sent.
Also: Eventually a thief might flash a device, but ost certain a thief (or buyer) starts it up to test whether its working or not.
Imho IIWPO can be improved, but practically chances of getting a device back will not significantly improve
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Sorry edsub, I should have specified to whom I was refering to (zairyaab) when I wrote that comment.
Best regards,
Rayan
np m8
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It was me who put together IIWPO for other devices than Wallaby.
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Can you explain what should I change in the cab to make it work on other devices (Like ETen M500/Torq P100)?
edsub said:
Imho IIWPO can be improved, but practically chances of getting a device back will not significantly improve.
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Yeah, but still I would feel somewhat better if I can at least call the thief/buyer and shout some expletives if he/she refuses to cooperate!!! :twisted: :lol:
Best regards,
Rayan
i have my girlfriend's number as my report number.. what if were together and we got robbed both our phones are taken away.. a multiple report number would be a good addition to IIWPO
The changes I'd like to see done to IIWPO include:
a) not using "IIWPO" or 'xda-developer' in the registry (user customisable registry key)
b) user customisable executable file name (IIWPO_startup is like a dead giveaway)
c) not storing owner name & number 'in the clear' (a simple XOR to hide it would be just as effective)
d) a hash of the entire owner info page (not just the last name) so unit will resend an SMS if any info changes
e) a new sms is resent after a preset time (eg: every 24/48/120 hours for example), regardless if owner info has changed or not.
I also like the idea of multiple number reporting.
a,b,c) Considering the concept of IIWPO is 'security by obscurity'; it will help if one could hide it more effectively. (no one is going to bother too much about bluetooth.exe or msn_update.exe in the startup folder for example...)
d) Most people get their name right; then meddle with the other bits of information as time goes on - it'd be good to get 'updated' info as and when it happens.
e) Consider it a 'keep alive' thing, so we'll know the unit is still in use, and can continue to keep in touch with the new owner =) I've no moral issues burning up the credit of someone who refuses to give me back my property either. =P
If nothing else, we'd be able to know when the unit gets reflashed, and can quiety say goodbye to our unit after not hearing from it for a while... =(
Is IIWPO still being maintained by the author, or anyone on xda-developers? If not, is the source available? I might be interested in following up on it (time permitting...)
Edited to add: A really vicious version of the IIWPO would possibly send out:
a) phone numbers stored in the SIM card
b) phone numbers stored in the addres book
c) recently dialed/received phone numbers
d) recently sent/received SMS phone numbers
Not all in one go; but in bits and pieces (eg: every 20 startups; send phone numbers of last 5 SMSs sent/received + last 5 phone calls dialed/received).
That would allow us get in touch with his friends and would possibly aid in getting the unit returned (use your imagination... probably easier to get them tell you who/where he is, rather than to get them convince him to return it...)
Probably this would add too much bloat to IIWPO; but hey, could be useful... =P
WOW, ok.
First of all - I registered 2 this forum less than a week ago,
and great job for doing these kind of things.
second - where can i d/l the prog?
and last another idea: when some1 steals ur pda he's usually gonna sell it over. meaning he made his money.
HOWEVER - if even after a HR after changing sims (maybe even without) there will be a picture message saying:
"You cannot use this phone"
"This phone can only be used by me - *name*"
"However, Im willing to buy this phone back from you. call +......"
there wont be a place on the screen to enter the code.
however - the phones' user knows he can type his password and unlock the phone. you might even integrate a handwriting recognition programm for signature or somthing but that will be super hard, i know.
another option is that when seeing this message user has to touch 4 corners of the screen with the stylus in a specific order, then he'll have a please enter password screen.
any comment?
is it do-able?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=IIWPO
Hi All I am quite new to moible pc but i do have excellent pc skills so its a bit of a learning curve for me. I managed to get most thing working the way I want reading these posts.
I Purchased an o2 orbit a few months back. I need to get the gprs roam settings to work with vodaphone simm.
Everything else works fine I would like to browse the web without wifi.
I think the phone must be unlocked as it works fine with my vodaphone works simm in it.
can you point me to the correct setting or does it need to be unlocked further to enable gprs settings to work?
other small problem of it keeps saying memory is low even though I have a 2gb storage expansion installed.
last small problem I cant get pages with flash media to play eg you tube videos what media source do i need to install.
Thanks
couple questions, when you ask roam what do you mean just so you can connect to vodafone gprs out and about and are you pay as you go or contract?
Hi
its a works contract vodaphone simm. Work provides a very basic nokia so I installed it into the o2. I pay work £7 a month for personal use
klkl basically you need to tap start>settings>connections (tab at bottom)> conections > add a new modem conection > cellular line GPRS > type in a name and next > access point is wap.vodaphone.co.uk > user name is web and password is web should sort you out
Once you get the GPRS working, go to www.mobile.htc.com on your phone and that site will lead you to where you can download flash for mobile PC.
although the phone works with the vodaphone simm it will not allow me to change the gprs password. i have tried deleting the old connection editing the connection. if it going to require a full unblock does anyone in uk reflash these o2 free and upgrade software for a reasonable cost if so please advise. I would need a very quick turnaround.
thanks
strange :S i've never had the issue and im running sweet with a T-Mobile sim in o2 orbit could be the custom script, might be worth doing the "clear storage" this will return phone to factory settings and remove anything you have installed but should sort it, basically you go settings > system clear storage and when its all complete will restart phone, when it says custom script will begin in 3 seconds press the soft reset button (small hole on side next to the answer button) this will stop the custom script from running so should be generic windows mobile setup, you'll have to set everything up manually but hey worth it if you can connect
Sound like a plan
also if i do system clear as described will this kill my phones contacts sim and voice dial tags and remove my
tom tom and voices?? can these be backed up first?
thanks
cameronboy said:
Sound like a plan
also if i do system clear as described will this kill my phones contacts sim and voice dial tags and remove my
tom tom and voices?? can these be backed up first?
thanks
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well yeah back them up but voices should be on SD card, anything on SD wont get touched
Hallo Guys,
my Name is Veit and im from Germany, so please dont hang me up if my english is incorrect.
Ive bought a HTC Desire and i know an App called "Best Profiles" from my Nokia-Symbian-Phone and now i want to get something else on my Desire.
Best Profiles could switch my Nokia during the night into a "Offline-Profile" where Networking and WLAN is disabled so save Battery. In the morning it automatically switch back to a "Online-Profile" WITHOUT entry of the PIN.
I found some apps that could switch between several Profiles by time-schedule but always the PIN needs to be re-entered.
Is there a way to get it like on the Symbian-Phone ???
Will it be possible with a other App or with a Custom-ROM ?? My Desire is already rooted and my current ROM is the Offficial Untouched Froyo 2.2 from the Forums here !!
Hoping for future answers and a big THX for the guys who do the hard work here !!!
Have you looked at JuiceDefender on the market?
Can do all you want and more
It's free for controlling the mobile internet but you will need to buy UltimateJuice if you want to be able to control WiFi etc.
Hey, thats a good question. I didnt know that app before now.
So if i install / buy that app i should set the phone into Flight-Profile ( Disconnect from Network, shut down WiFi, shutdown Bluetooth ) and reverse all those settings after sleeping without retyping my PIN ???
Hello,
its me again. Ive tried 3 different Apps but everytime the same situation:
I have to re-enter my PIN after reconnect to the Network !!
Any suggestions ????
I don't think you will get an app to do exactly what you want.
When the desire is in flight mode it turns the radio off, turning the radio back on requires the pin entry.
Ultimate juice can turn off wifi, apn's etc, but would leave the radio on so it's not ideal for you.
Other than turning the pin prompt off, I can't see an easy solution for you.
S..t,
OK if its the only way i will switch off my PINcheck and will secure my Phone with the Unlock-Figure.
Maybe in the future some of the ROM-Kookers could switch of the PIN-Reentry procedure after switch off the Flight-profile.
Regards
Veit
roadghost said:
S..t,
OK if its the only way i will switch off my PINcheck and will secure my Phone with the Unlock-Figure.
Maybe in the future some of the ROM-Kookers could switch of the PIN-Reentry procedure after switch off the Flight-profile.
Regards
Veit
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Good idea! It might be worth asking for this feature in a specific rom thread so you can be sure the dev knows about it?