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how do i chang the imei on blue angel xda 2s
I doubt u can do it easily
Also, isnt it illegal in the UK to change the IMEI of a handset?
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Also, isnt it illegal in the UK to change the IMEI of a handset?
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It certainly is. On the grounds that there is only one reason why you'd need to!
Actually, it's very easy!
DISCALIMER:
I take no responsibility for the procedure.
If you loose data, not my fault!
If your device gets borken, not my fault!
If this is illegal in your country, not my fault!
Ok, here we go!
1. Open phone app, and dial *#06#
2. Write down your current IMEI number.
3. Make complete backup.
4. Buy a new device
5. Restore backup.
6. Open phone app, and dial *#06#
7. Confirm that your device now has a different IMEI..
And for the future: Don't buy stolen goods!
I can do this for you, and it will only cost you 750€
:lol: LOL sound about right :shock:
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numanoids said:
Also, isnt it illegal in the UK to change the IMEI of a handset?
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It certainly is. On the grounds that there is only one reason why you'd need to!
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Actuallly, there are a number of very valid reasons why you may want to change the IMEI of you phone. For Instance.
I have a PDA2k and a Vodafone 7100v with blackberry enterprise account. I recently installed the Blackberry Connect software onto my PDA2K and went to the website to enter the New IMEI number and PIN cod for my PDA2K. This was refused by vodafone because it is not a "Vodafone phone IMEI". So my thinking was to take over the IMEI of the 7100v and the the problem goes away.
Haven't achieved anything yet and if it IS illigal to use one of my IMEI numbers in another of MY phones then the law is an ass.
Kindest regards,
Derek
hi
to those of us that dont live in UK and this rule does not apply (as no legal legislation exists where i live that says this is illegal) we actually might wanna try yhis just for fun.. so does n1 know how to change the imei?
This topic also applies to those who baught a used device and didn't know that the emei was blocked by one carrier because of bad credit that was never resolved by the original owner.
Now IF the original owner sold the unit to an unaware buyer, then the buyer would be SOL. IMO, it is NOT the buyer's fault, NOR it is assumed that the unit was "stolen". Some guys here seam to jump into there own conclusions.
still no news on the IMEI changing ?
It is illegal in the UK to change the EMEI, it doesnt matter why you are doing it, its just illegal. End of story. If you get caught doing it, you get arrested.
To be honest, there are NOT loads of reasons youd want to legally change the emei, so far 2 have been presented,
1> vodaphone emei required to do something on phone
2> previous owner had bad credit and sold on phone
Case one, rare. A pain, yes, but rare so I dont think anyone will go to all the effort and law breaking to solve just this.
Case two, even rarer. And for the person in this situation, they could just call the network and explain it to them, its possible the block would be lifted if its not actualy a stolen phone.
I beg people to stop asking about EMEI changes on here, we dont want this board shutdown, and I can garantee that will happen if an emei tool appears. Its GOOD that you cant change the emei because this board isnt a place for criminals as it would be if emei tools were supplied.
Yes it's illegal. IN YOUR COUNTRY. In your Case 2, the network would be glad to meet with you so they can confescate the phone since it was not paid for. The original owner left the country and never came back. Anyway, I seam to recall there was a way to change the EMEI on the MDA I.
Unless there is a rule posted on this board about asking for something like this, people will always ask. I think it should not be a board rule because it doesn't apply to most counties.
And because its illegal here then its ok for people in other countries to help criminals here?
I was posting to a UK person, trying to help them avoide legal trouble, and it does apply to people in many other countries. Its just not a good thing to do, has little legitimate merit, and is a lot of work for little reward.
I dont know of any country that welcomes reprogramming of phones so why not stay away from it to avoid bringing trouble on the board?
Just because some countries havent made a specific law against it, it doesnt mean its a good idea.
And it the original owner of a phone sold it without paying for it, then it IS a stolen phone. Buying stolen goods is buying stolen goods, if the network would confiscate it back, then you ARE doing something dodgy by reprogramming the emei, therefor removing case 2 from my legitimate reasons list. So we are left with this one bizare rare case where its needed.
All that legal risk for that?
If you were trying to assist member from the UK, then state so. But making it a board rule affect every board member, not just the ones who live in the UK. I guess the site admin you have to decide about the rules. Neither you or I admin of this site, so I guess we have no say either way. If you are an admin, then you can keep me from posting the EMEI changer when or if it is released.
You have just insinuated that I knowingly bought stolen goods from the original owner. If I had know that there was a problem like this before hand, I would not have given my $600 to the person that sold it. Would you give back the unit knowing that you will not get the money back from the original owner? What sane person would? If the network told me that they would refund my money, I would gladly give it back and buy a new one. Since that isn't happening anytime soon, I will not not be discuraged and make the best out of my predicament. If the Johnny Law catches up to me, then so be it. At least I knew what the consequences are and that I had a choice. No one on any forum can tell me what I can and can't do to anything I own.
Slight misunderstanding, I never said you KNOWINGLY buight stolen goods, but at the end of the day, as far as im aware the law is the same in most places, stolen goods are not legitimate even if you didnt know. Many people are put on the rough end of a point stick when they get caught out like that.
I myself have lost lots of money from not knowing something was stolen, then having the police take it back. It sucks. Im sorry it happened to you.
EMEI numbers are tightly controlled because of all the different kinds of fraud that get associated with changing them.
Its like changing the VIN on a car, its your car, but its still not allowed.
Im really sorry you got caught in the situation, but you have to get your money back from the seller. If you cant, There isnt much you can do.
Yes I agree that "stolen goods IS stolen goods", no matter how you acquire it. It's not only the law but common sense. Don't get me wrong. I do understand your point of view and respect it. In a place such as local auction sites, you don't get lucky every time you make a transaction and I don't have the luxury to throw $600 out the window. The seller lives on the other side of the world. I refuse to waste my resources to track the seller and try to get my money back. If the network wants the phone back, they can certainly offer to refund the $600 so I can buy another unit from them.
Changing the VIN on a car is not a good example. As there is absolutely no reason why anyone would remove or replace the VIN. Then they would have to replace/remove the chassis and engine block numbers.
The way I see it, the EMEI changer is a tool.. like a gun for example. It depends on how you use it. If you get busted using it other than legitimate reasons, then you dug your own hole. I am certainly not an angel and if this tool is released, I will use it so that I have 1 more choice of carrier I can use.
I do not gave a cr*p about stupid, british laws , nor do I understand why this should be illegal. (cant see any resonable harm by doing this)
It sounds like british goverment is worse than Moussolini and Mao together at this point .. I must ask WTF are those dumb bastardz thinking when they assume that by changing some numbers I do something illigal ? .. this is exacly as stupid as assuming that anybody that buys a knife is a killer.
Now--- can we move on and get back to subject ?
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I do not gave a cr*p about stupid, british laws .....It sounds like british goverment is worse than Moussolini and Mao together at this point .. .....
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Yeah, and don't forget about Quisling, too!
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Yeah, and don't forget about Quisling, too!
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yes ...i could say *especially* Quisling !!
but he was a traitor - while the others forced thir way upon people ,that's why I compared the situation to tham
I need a tool for changing my xda3's imei number. Why?
I bought a xda 3 a few months ago from ebay.co.uk,
a few days ago i learnt that there was a new law and that law says you cant use mobile phones which are not legallay import to turkey( this means i will never use phones that are not sell in turkey). if i bought my phone one day ago(before the date of law) my phone has been legal but for 1 day my phone is illegal in their opinion
You can say law is law and you must know that but the problem begins here, no one knows anything about this law and 2 MILLION CELL PHONES like mine will be blocked on 13th december
i found a solution for this, i will buy a cheap legal phone and i will clone its imei number to my xda 3 to use it (if i could)
Can anyone help me how to change the imei number.
Are you sure? A law like that would be really, really stupid. :?
As for IMEI - no you can't change it.
they do have some funny laws. our Turkish representative ordered a spare part which their customs refused the importation 'coz it was manufactured in 2004.
It's nonsense.
If they would start blocking IMEI numbers for instance, all tourist's cellphones would stop functioning.
The only way they could "enforce" this is to go to each individual cellphone user, take their GSM, press *#06#, write down the IMEI number and go through cellphones sold by all Turkish operators, lists that never will be upto-date, since new cellphones are sold very day.
For me this news is a hoax, utter BS.
Wiz said:
If they would start blocking IMEI numbers for instance, all tourist's cellphones would stop functioning.
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This is not necessarily the case.
They could block "foreign" IMEI operating on local SIM cards but not block them on roaming.
But I doubt they will.
Sascha
The Turkish government would like Turkey to join the EU. If they want to then they'll have to stop doing very silly things like this. :evil:
When (if) they do join the EU then they be foreced to do other silly stuff instead. :roll:
SO.......IN THE END WHAT HAPPENED???
yeah yeah. ok. so in the end, to make a long story short --> did it happen? i mean, did they block the imei no's or not?????
I doubt it
jim
so do i. but got no info bout that so we'll just hv2wait n see. already the deadline passed, so it should b blocked by now. but i doubt it big-time puuhleeeaassse
we pass the dead line but the result is still unknown
my gsm operator turkcel said your imei number is cloned (someone uses my imei number ? ) and depend on this stuation they record my imei number to system and i paid 10 usd for registration fee, after that they said me you can use your phone
but today i checked my imei number from the goverments web site and i saw my phone is not regisered and will be bloced on unknown date.
I want to explain something
The intention of this law is prevent the tax decrement from unregistred phones ( there's about 18 million phones came to turkey without tax at last ten years approximately
100 usd tax for 1 phone X 18 million phone = 1.8 billion usd tax prevent for the goverment
Other reason is stolen phones at previous system gsm operators couldnt blocked the stolen phones becouse they had no imei database
The law is good but the problem is on dates
Goverment says the law is made on july 13th and the dead line for the unregistered phones (phones came to turkey without paid tax) is this date
But no one know anything about this law, i checked the forums on july and there is nothing at anywhere about this law at these days
so i bought a phone from outside turkey because i didnt know that was illegal and 2 million of people didnt know buying phone without paying tax is illegal because this wasnt illegal last 10years .....
etc. etc. etc....
I m still waiting a solution for changing imei please help
ogn said:
I m still waiting a solution for changing imei please help
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It's simple: you cannot change IMEI
Sascha
SaBo said:
ogn said:
I m still waiting a solution for changing imei please help
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It's simple: you cannot change IMEI
Sascha
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Well actually, that is not strictly true. It is very possable, in the pursuit of science. However this is a clean site and I am happy for it to stay that way.
You are misinformed my friend. The law isn't to battle illegale imports but rather stolen phones, illegale imports are just a by product of it. As long as you have a receipt with your name and the IMEI code on it you can drop by your local phone store and have the IMEI activated. There is a charge of 10 YTL for this.
Changing the IMEI code of your device won't help you cause it still will be blocked, unless you hijack some elses activated IMEI.
How do I know? Cause I'm in Turkey rightnow for new years. My Dutch Vodafone card works in my phone but my prepaid Turkcell card does not. I droppped by the Turkcell shop and had it activated. Took the receipt with me when I left NL cause I knew abotu the law.
SaBo said:
Wiz said:
If they would start blocking IMEI numbers for instance, all tourist's cellphones would stop functioning.
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This is not necessarily the case.
They could block "foreign" IMEI operating on local SIM cards but not block them on roaming.
But I doubt they will.
Sascha
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I have just Landed in the U.K from Turkey and can confirm this is not a hoax.All foreign phones are blocked,on local simm cards!Foreign simm cards on roaming work,you must take the reciept and proof of purchase,if you missed the date.
And what about people who enjoy their holiday there?
Is Turkey allready joining the European Union?.
If the answer is yes, they will be very soon target by the Union rules :twisted:
If the answer is no yet, they will never get in with this manners
Cheers to every one and enjoy hollydais
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Is Turkey allready joining the European Union?.
If the answer is yes, they will be very soon target by the Union rules :twisted:
If the answer is no yet, they will never get in with this manners
Cheers to every one and enjoy hollydais
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The answer is "not yet".
They have a few human rights and free speech issues to sort out before the EU will even discuss membership with them.
Re: My xda will be blocked like 2 MILLION cellphones on 13th
ogn said:
I need a tool for changing my xda3's imei number. Why?
I bought a xda 3 a few months ago from ebay.co.uk,
a few days ago i learnt that there was a new law and that law says you cant use mobile phones which are not legallay import to turkey( this means i will never use phones that are not sell in turkey). if i bought my phone one day ago(before the date of law) my phone has been legal but for 1 day my phone is illegal in their opinion
You can say law is law and you must know that but the problem begins here, no one knows anything about this law and 2 MILLION CELL PHONES like mine will be blocked on 13th december
i found a solution for this, i will buy a cheap legal phone and i will clone its imei number to my xda 3 to use it (if i could)
Can anyone help me how to change the imei number.
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try google
even if you did/could change the IMEI wont changing it be illegal ( i know its illegal to change the IMEI number here in the uk, not sure about turkey thou prob is thou)
so you would have an illegal phone cos it was import and would prob still be illegal cos the IMEI would have been changed
Unfortunately changing the IMEI number is illegal in Turkey with 3 years jail punishment. ("How will the government officers detect it?" is a question with no answer)
However for the guys like my friend from Turkey this law is completely nonsense! There was almost no announcement nor proper technical information about how everyone will be affected.
I'm sure some people in Turkey is buying cheap legal phones and copying it to their htc smartphones but the question is how they are doing that?
since I do not believe the necessity of this law I'll definetely find a way to broke it. If anyone could help that would be great under these circumstances.
I'm another guy who has a LEGAL pda2k (bought from USA with legal invoice) but waiting it to be blocked any time.... I don't really like the feeling of waiting it to be blocked on an unknown date/time. At least I want to know if there is a way to change the IMEI no in case of my pda2k's is blocked. I know IMEI can be changed and want to learn how (or where I can get this information). Any help will be appriciated. Thanks all.
Remote phone access features.
I am surprised MS are not advertising their features which match HTCSense.com
HTC seem to be making a big deal about Remote location, Ringing and Erasing your HTC Desire HD or Desire Z from a browser.
I was really pleased to discover matching features at windowsphone.live.com.
Using Find My Phone on the website you can:
- Map it (to catch thieves...)
- Ring it (to locate in the sofa)
- Lock it (with onscreen message)
- Erase it
On activation the Microsoft sytem warns that it works via a hidden text message based system instead of the HTC equivalent which seems to work on mobile data, and so it takes about 30 seconds for the Windows version wheres HTCSense.com takes about 2 seconds to perform each task.
What do you think of their systems?
Q1) What if the phone can't get a data connection?
Is Microsoft GSM SMS method is better?
Q2) What if a thief changes the SIM card?
Does the HTC method still work via a phone identifier, where MS is perhaps linked to the phone number?
I wonder how they work...
Still, I am pleased! Very cool feature to have provided by the operating system and not a third party app.
I read somewhere (can't remember where) that you can change this setting so it uses the 'push' functionality to react faster, but uses more battery.
evilangelic said:
Remote phone access features.
I am surprised MS are not advertising their features which match HTCSense.com
HTC seem to be making a big deal about Remote location, Ringing and Erasing your HTC Desire HD or Desire Z from a browser.
I was really pleased to discover matching features at windowsphone.live.com.
Using Find My Phone on the website you can:
- Map it (to catch thieves...)
- Ring it (to locate in the sofa)
- Lock it (with onscreen message)
- Erase it
On activation the Microsoft sytem warns that it works via a hidden text message based system instead of the HTC equivalent which seems to work on mobile data, and so it takes about 30 seconds for the Windows version wheres HTCSense.com takes about 2 seconds to perform each task.
What do you think of their systems?
Q1) What if the phone can't get a data connection?
Is Microsoft GSM SMS method is better?
Q2) What if a thief changes the SIM card?
Does the HTC method still work via a phone identifier, where MS is perhaps linked to the phone number?
I wonder how they work...
Still, I am pleased! Very cool feature to have provided by the operating system and not a third party app.
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None of this crap matters. If I find a GSM phone I'm going to remove the SIM card and factory reset it. Anyone that isn't retarded will do the same thing. If you care about people using/reselling you device if you lose it or get it stolen, you have no business getting a GSM phone.
Any thief or person who finds a nice device will immediately turn the phone off and both remove the SIM Card and factory reset it. Then they will pay $15 to get it unlocked and make bank with it on CraigsList or eBay.
No Cell Carrier will cooperate with police to track that phone. T-Mobile has even defied sopoenas citing "privacy issues."
As to you two quetions. None of them matter - at ALL. The phone is turned off and factory reset ASAP when it is stolen or found by someone in 95% of cases. There are very few nice people when they find or take something and no one sees them. They will wipe the phone, remove the SIM, and either keep or sell it.
Only way to be secure is to either have an iPhone or get a CDMA device. That way the phone becomes useless (unless jailbroken for iPhone, but EINs are marked dirty and the devices become useless other than as WiFi devices) and they can only profit off of it through scamming others (or selling it for parts?).
After my experience with getting my Vibrant stolen, and what I've learned... I'm definitely going with a CDMA carrier the second I can (and ETFing T-Mobile). The fact that US Carriers don't work together like Europe makes it a market for thieves and resellers. Privacy laws even protect the thieves, here.
Kinda Disagree on this
N8ter said:
None of this crap matters. If I find a GSM phone I'm going to remove the SIM card and factory reset it. Anyone that isn't retarded will do the same thing. If you care about people using/reselling you device if you lose it or get it stolen, you have no business getting a GSM phone.
Any thief or person who finds a nice device will immediately turn the phone off and both remove the SIM Card and factory reset it. Then they will pay $15 to get it unlocked and make bank with it on CraigsList or eBay.
No Cell Carrier will cooperate with police to track that phone. T-Mobile has even defied sopoenas citing "privacy issues."
As to you two quetions. None of them matter - at ALL. The phone is turned off and factory reset ASAP when it is stolen or found by someone in 95% of cases. There are very few nice people when they find or take something and no one sees them. They will wipe the phone, remove the SIM, and either keep or sell it.
Only way to be secure is to either have an iPhone or get a CDMA device. That way the phone becomes useless (unless jailbroken for iPhone, but EINs are marked dirty and the devices become useless other than as WiFi devices) and they can only profit off of it through scamming others (or selling it for parts?).
After my experience with getting my Vibrant stolen, and what I've learned... I'm definitely going with a CDMA carrier the second I can (and ETFing T-Mobile). The fact that US Carriers don't work together like Europe makes it a market for thieves and resellers. Privacy laws even protect the thieves, here.
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Some of this is correct but is heavily assuming that the person who takes the device has some knowledge of its functions and of smartphone use in general.
There has been some theft of devices in AU recently where the thieves have been caught due to lack of knowledge of the device they had stolen. It did in fact lead the cops to where they were. They had basically just replaced the sim and done nothing else to the phone.
This of course maybe different in the US and of course powered off it ain't calling anybody.
Incorrect. It's not hard to know what to do here.
If it says Verizon or Sprint (Includes Virgin Mobile, Boost Mobile, etc.), the phone is worthless if they report it stolen, aside froma WiFi media device because the ESN will be marked dirty and it won't be able to activate after the owner calls it in as Lost or Stolen.
If it says T-Mobile or AT&T, you have hit the jackpot. GSM Carriers here allow any stolen devices on their network, without prejudice. I've already spoken to T-Mobile about this, because my first Vibrant was stolen. Their words, "If you didn't have a lock code on your phone, or the new owner resets it, it's their phone." With Cloud-based storage of info the information on the phone isn't an issue, it's the $500 piece of hardware that just went bye bye that's the issue (assuming you put your Photos in Picasa/FB/SkyDrive and don't let them rot on the phone's storage, of course).
Turn phone off. Remove Sim Card. Pay $10-20 for an unlock code. List on eBay. Profit?
Yes, there are dumb people anywhere. But anyone in the projects around here who has at least a 3rd grade education will shut that phone down and have it on eBay (probably from the Public Library computers) within a matter of hours. GPS Tracking and things like MyPhone won't help with that once they reset the phone (which is easier as ever these days, since everyone is putting it in as a simple menu option that is trivial to find).
Best way to get the phone back is to have been robbed or something. If you get injured badly enough the cops and the carriers will actually track the phone down. Cops here don't track phones unless it's a life or death situation. If you allow someone to use that phone without calling the carrier ASAP to get the line suspended, you can - and will - be held liable for whatever that person does on the phone. Have fun paying for every ringtone, wallpaper, etc. and all the overages they used on the account (i.e. if they used your phone to tether a torrent client on their laptop/notebook on AT&T with a 200MB data plan).
mobile me from apple is exactly similar to microsoft's devices.live.com service...
many many times theifs have been caught using gps tracking...majority of theives are idiots and don't know what they are doing...
also GSM phones are just as secure...just because t-mobile refuses to do something does not means GSM is insecure...IMEI can be blocked from the network very easily and is done on a regular basis in NZ if phone is stolen...
If you live in Australia you can contact your carrier and have the phone blocked by using the IMEI number.
The Australian Mobile Telecommunications Association (AMTA) runs a world-leading anti-theft program at no cost to consumers. It works by detecting a mobile phone's electronic serial number, known as the International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI) number, then sharing this information with carriers to block handsets across all networks in Australia.
Here is a link to check it out:
http://www.lost.amta.org.au/
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mobile me from apple is exactly similar to microsoft's devices.live.com service...
many many times theifs have been caught using gps tracking...majority of theives are idiots and don't know what they are doing...
also GSM phones are just as secure...just because t-mobile refuses to do something does not means GSM is insecure...IMEI can be blocked from the network very easily and is done on a regular basis in NZ if phone is stolen...
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Im talking about the usa. No gsm carrier blocks imeis here. I thought I made that crystal clear in my us/europe comparisons.
They arent tracking a phone here without a court supoena and myphone/mobileme are useless vs 99% of thieves.
Majority of thieves arent idiots. Vast majority of stolen phones are never recovered. Theyre as easy to steal as a netbook and a phone locked there can still be used np in the us, which is why stealing gsm phones are profitable.
There are no inter-carrier databases for logging blacklisted imeis here, like there is in europe.
Lots of stolen phones also goto asia.
I hope that explains my stance. Yes. Gsm is less secure than cdma because the phones can be unlocked and used in other markets easily, unlike cdma. That portability is a blessing and a curse to gsm...
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Im talking about the usa. No gsm carrier blocks imeis here. I thought I made that crystal clear in my us/europe comparisons.
They arent tracking a phone here without a court supoena and myphone/mobileme are useless vs 99% of thieves. Seriously, good luck getting said supoena... Maybe if your Barack Obama you will get it.
Majority of thieves arent idiots. Vast majority of stolen phones are never recovered. Theyre as easy to steal as a netbook and a phone locked there can still be used np in the us, which is why stealing gsm phones are profitable.
There are no inter-carrier databases for logging blacklisted imeis here, like there is in europe.
Lots of stolen phones also goto asia.
I hope that explains my stance. Yes. Gsm is less secure than cdma because the phones can be unlocked and used in other markets easily, unlike cdma. That portability is a blessing and a curse to gsm...
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N8ter said:
Im talking about the usa. No gsm carrier blocks imeis here. I thought I made that crystal clear in my us/europe comparisons.
They arent tracking a phone here without a court supoena and myphone/mobileme are useless vs 99% of thieves.
Majority of thieves arent idiots. Vast majority of stolen phones are never recovered. Theyre as easy to steal as a netbook and a phone locked there can still be used np in the us, which is why stealing gsm phones are profitable.
There are no inter-carrier databases for logging blacklisted imeis here, like there is in europe.
Lots of stolen phones also goto asia.
I hope that explains my stance. Yes. Gsm is less secure than cdma because the phones can be unlocked and used in other markets easily, unlike cdma. That portability is a blessing and a curse to gsm...
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You're incorrect about cdma. All you have to do is flash the phone to another carrier such as Cricket, Metro, or Boost. Companies that don't care about the ESN numbers.
Hi guys
Newbie question here
Im looking for a note 2 in Craigslist, some offers say "bad imei" and they have minor prices
For what I've read, the bad imei doesn't affect if I unlock the phone and use another carrier (I will use it in mexico)
am I correct?
Thanks in advance
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Thanks for the question. I too am curious about this.
As long as it's in another country and carrier, you will have no issues with a bad imei.
Keep in mind you're buying stolen goods, either directly or indirectly. Is that something you're comfortable with?
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Keep in mind you're buying stolen goods, either directly or indirectly. Is that something you're comfortable with?
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Well, I didn't think about that
You're right
And no, I dont want to be a part of that
It really depends. Someone may interpret a bad imei as blocked/blacklisted or completely missing. If the first owner was inexperienced at flashing they may have not made a back up of the efs folder and lost the imei. If they didnt fulfill the contract with a carrier it could also get it blacklisted. And then also the possibility it was reported stolen.
Sent from my G Note 2!!!
A friend of mine told his carrier he were robbed to use the insurance and sell that phone
Here in Mexico, in 2012 the president made a law to block IMEIs in robbed cellphones
But most people its ignorant about the laws and rights -_-
So, that law isnt even working XD
Back in thread, Theres no way to know if my next Note2 its stollen or lost, etc
So im buying Used, but good imei
Carriers in the u.s. are going to start blocking imeis on all carriers. If u put ur sim in a stolen device on att ur service will be suspended. Right now they are in the process to stop stolen imeis from working on other carriers here and out of country.
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Sorry, I didn't want to pull the morality argument, because I usually hate people who do that. But yeah, even the phones that were blocked due to the contracts not being fulfilled? 75% of that is usually someone coming in, buying 5 phones on an ID where they don't care about their credit, and never paying the bill. Stolen phones.
Sago6 said:
Well, I didn't think about that
You're right
And no, I dont want to be a part of that
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Hi,
How can we report "phone stolen" in Mexico ? The phone was bought in Canada and thus is associated with a Canadian operator, however the phone was stolen as soon as I arrived in Mexico, that too inside the flight by a fellow passenger.
Can the Canadian operator blacklist my phone IMEI even though it is in Mexico ? Or can I call the Mexican Telefonica company and then can blacklist this IEMI so that the phone can never be used in Mexico ? Please guide me through this, I'd be eternally thankful.
I am really worried and I have had such a bad experience in Mexico, firstly at the international airport in Mexico City the shopkeepers tried to make me pay more than I should, then my phone is stolen.
Thanks in advance,
Sanjeev
sanjeev2612 said:
Hi,
How can we report "phone stolen" in Mexico ? The phone was bought in Canada and thus is associated with a Canadian operator, however the phone was stolen as soon as I arrived in Mexico, that too inside the flight by a fellow passenger.
Can the Canadian operator blacklist my phone IMEI even though it is in Mexico ? Or can I call the Mexican Telefonica company and then can blacklist this IEMI so that the phone can never be used in Mexico ? Please guide me through this, I'd be eternally thankful.
I am really worried and I have had such a bad experience in Mexico, firstly at the international airport in Mexico City the shopkeepers tried to make me pay more than I should, then my phone is stolen.
Thanks in advance,
Sanjeev
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I've never had to deal with this, thank goodness, but you can try contacting your carrier (if you used the phone on your line, they should have a record of the device) and have it blocked on your carrier's network. However, since it's not an official phone sold by the carrier, they may not make your request a priority. It's worth trying though! It's also worth trying (if you actually have the phone info- imei/serial) to contact the Canadian carrier with a report so it can't be sold & activated on their network again in the future.
I know, it's old thread, but it came up in Google results while I was researching my questions. What do you guys think, buying a carrier locked blacklisted phone in Canada, can it be unlock, make it sim free? and why assume it is stolen phone. A person bought used iPhone from kijiji, totally working phone. In a few days, original owner claims it as stolen and carrier black lists the phone (in Canada). The buyer now has no use of it in Canada. He can try to unlock (sim free) the phone and send it overseas, like Europe, or Asia. I don't see anything wrong here, just looking for your opinion. Thank you.
I believe parts of Europe have a blacklisting system in place so the imei should be checked before trying to network unlock the phone for use in another country.
Many people assume that a phone has been stolen because the imei has been blacklisted and, as you pointed out, this is not always the case.
I'm not 100% sure but some unlockers will not or cannot unlock a blacklisted phone.
I bought s20 ultra from local cell phone dealer off the craigslist. The local dealer seems quite reputable however the guy said IMEI has been changed which got me bit concerned but proceeded to buy anyway. What are the reason for that? Quick search of the internet shows it could be stolen. But I dont see someone from respectable local phone dealer (at least based on their yelp google review) doing that since they are sittiing duck.
I contemplated either to resell back or keep using and for now using. It is wonderful in terms of speed comapred to junk I carried briefly (LG Q70).
However, there is just bit of an easy feeling about using it with IMEI chanegd.
For now, I am doing for e-mail, phone call and various apps but hesitant about using with fin-app (brokerage), bank, ebay apps that involves money.
Any ideas?
What are the chances of mine being compromised? I am setting a common sense here as just because I got from wireless authorized dealer does not mean it is bad and getting a brand new from authrozied dealer (verizon) not necessarly guarantee security.
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I bought s20 ultra from local cell phone dealer off the craigslist. The local dealer seems quite reputable however the guy said IMEI has been changed which got me bit concerned but proceeded to buy anyway. What are the reason for that? Quick search of the internet shows it could be stolen. But I dont see someone from respectable local phone dealer (at least based on their yelp google review) doing that since they are sittiing duck.
I contemplated either to resell back or keep using and for now using. It is wonderful in terms of speed comapred to junk I carried briefly (LG Q70).
However, there is just bit of an easy feeling about using it with IMEI chanegd.
For now, I am doing for e-mail, phone call and various apps but hesitant about using with fin-app (brokerage), bank, ebay apps that involves money.
Any ideas?
What are the chances of mine being compromised? I am setting a common sense here as just because I got from wireless authorized dealer does not mean it is bad and getting a brand new from authrozied dealer (verizon) not necessarly guarantee security.
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You bought a potentially compromised phone with a changed IMEI. That means that it's definitely stolen or was owned by someone who didn't want to be traced before being soled as a burner phone.
That being said, IMEI is just device ID. Meaning: Your device is in no way compromised just because a different ID. Surely whoever has the tools and your IMEI can track all your records across the internet and track your current location as well.
But don't worry the tools necessary for such a thing can only be accessed by authorized personnel of respective telecommunication company (Like AT&T) and your local authorities.
Also banking apps have meticulous safety checks before allowing the usage of the app, so don't worry too much.
However that doesn't mean that your phone is secured, as remains the question of how did they change the IMEI of your phone?
There are multiple ways to change an IMEI number but they all include one common point: They all directly affect some component in the device whether it be software or hardware.
So there is the possibility that your current software/hardware is compromised.
My advice? Just get a new phone, or make your phone secure again.
You can start by doing SafetyNet check. If the result is ok then you can be safe. (However as I said before whoever has the methods can still track you)
Flashing the stock ROM of the device then locking the bootloader can help. Also rooting the device then manually checking the device software for issues. Or simply changing the IMEI of your device again. (Only try those methods if you know what you're doing)
It's enough by itself that google, social media platforms and the government can track all your records across the internet whenever they feel like it, I myself wouldn't feel safe with potentially sharing my data with another unsolicited person.
So to answer your question:
Privacy is the issue when you have a potentially compromised IMEI. Not security.
Security is the issue when you have a potentially compromised system.
Hope I answered your question.
You've bought a stolen phone.
Theres absolutely NO REASON to change the IMEI.... EVER. If it has been changed, it is because the original IMEI has been reported stolen, and changing it gets around the cell network blocking it. There is NO LEGAL REASON TO CHANGE AN IMEI
I hope you are not caught with it, its essentially stolen property.