Develop Bugs

I want to help get this site back up to its fine standard

I am new to this community (this may even be one of my first posts, i cant remeber) but ive read alot of what is going on.
this is no matter what people say a good site....but recently its unbearably slow which is really killing the community sharing help etc, the ftp got wiped out, im sure alot of the members who put worki into that are extremely annoyed, and finally there are so many people on the forum posing the same old 'help i did this' stuff...which leads to the conclusion that the faqs need an update.
well i am unsure of who the admin(s) are but it looks like you guys are struggling or do not have the time to solve these issues on your own.... which i can appreciate.
so i for one would like to offer some help...and im sure the older more experienced members would lend a hand too.
my initial thoughts would be to get some of you veterans to update the faqs try to incorporate the whole upgrading and downgrading as simply as possible... far too many ppl are trying 2005. o and a nice clear sign about the mda3 unlocking.
the other thing i feel is a necessary step is to make the ftp readonly to normal users and have a set of superusers with write access...these would be the people that use it the most or are well respected members...if someone other than them have something worth uploading then they need to send it to a superuser to check and do... its a minor point but it would provide some security without hindering those superusers that need to upload regularly.
finally the slowness.. i dont know whats causing it but theres a solution to every problem...if the server has a low throughput im sure i read somewhere someones company was willing to donate a dedicated server to our cause...wouldnt evev need donations with that.
well theres my 2 pence what do you guys think? i want this community to keep going..the only way thats gonna happen is by putting some effort in!
Tim

I wholeheartedly agree.
In recent months there has been a real decline in the quality of this forum, and though it's not particularly anyone's fault, there is SO much repetition and laziness by so many people who post the same questions AGAIN and AGAIN without taking the time to search first. There's fresh examples of this within the past day!
I don't know how others feel, but as far as I'm concerned there are certain rules that should be followed if a forum is to keep it's usefulness and keep to a structured order. I used to run one many moons ago so I know what I'm talking about. Firstly, people seem to post wherever they want, regardless of content. I can't count the number of times I've seen "help crashed my XDA2 going up to WM2003SE" in General or Development/Hacking. 99 times out of 100 it will be the Country ID error, something I've read about so many times I could now fix in my sleep. I can understand people's panic when this happens as it happened to me as well, but what I did was calm down, get on here and search for Country ID errors. Low and behold, DCS and edSub to the rescue and within half an hour I was back on the road to Upgradeville.
Secondly, there's been a general increase in the rudeness of people posting; from new members and old. Some think that it's OK to post half their question in the Subject, then go "anyone got any ideas?". Then when there's no response within a few hours, the same poster is back saying "no one seen this?" or with some insult about people not helping. Even I've had an odd dig the odd time, so I know how easily it happens.
Thirdly, the WM2005 interest is hacking me off. I can appreciate it if it solves the problems of those using it over 2003SE, but (and I can't believe I'M saying this) just cos it's out there doesn't mean we have to have it - especially considering the risks of such a topic. I'm no legal expert on this but I know MS have been coming down HARD on ANYONE hosting or posting screenshots / divulging information about an alpha product (AFAIK). I wish the moderators would remove this, and then emphasise, as they have done on tekguru, that they will not comment / tolerate any hosting or screenshots etc. I don't want to see this site shut down, and I've posted about it before, only to find a few days later some idiot HAS uploaded the files to the FTP. I bet it hasn't helped the recent slowness, quite aside from its illegality!!
http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/index.php?article=5813
I agree Tim, I too would love to lend a hand where needed. I would be happy to help with constructing more up to date FAQs like on tekguru, and I completely agree that FTP needs to be readonly to all new users and most regular members also (prob inc me :shock: ). This site needs to get back on track, as it's still by far the most useful and helpsite resource for XDA/MDA/whatever and I would hate to see it go down the pan.
Ant

glad to see i'm not the only one willing to lend a hand
if we can get a few more people willing to help then it wont take very long at all to get this place going well again

I think Admins have abandoned XDA-Developers site time ago,but in some topics I read that they were busy with the Xanadux Project(Linux port),try to ask more to Peter Poelman e Lumpistefan about admins. 8)
So,I agree partially,there is no return from hold Win2k5,we need to keep it, we are a community,we will not share it in the FTP for security but need to know more about it,reverse it. You can't stop the knowoledge! Also Win2k3SE for XDA2,it is not officially announced,but you can read plenty of posts.
Some minor things to Upgrade,Improve in this site are:
-Create a CHAT in the site: Many users will benefit to this live communication,not only posts.
-NEW Profiles: add XDA3,Magician,etc..options
-Avatars disappeared, admin told it is for couple of weeks,some months ago.
-Improve the Search engine: Did you try to search something? it will return too many post,unrelated.
-Find and fix why XDA-Developers is so slow.

heh you just reminded me...the chat thing
i thought it would be nice to do an irc channel
and thanks for the info i will email peter... if the admins are busy with xanadux thats fine (im quite interested in the project) but we could do with someone to step in and keep this place running (peter?) and to organise a team to do what we all see as the issues.
as to the legality of win mob 2005...ive never cared about legal issues personally...but from the point of view of admin it must be removed off of xda dev...if someone hosts it somewhere and links it in a foum be it on their head... but xda dev cannot host it for their own safety

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as to the legality of win mob 2005...ive never cared about legal issues personally...but from the point of view of admin it must be removed off of xda dev...if someone hosts it somewhere and links it in a foum be it on their head... but xda dev cannot host it for their own safety
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Exactly, MS have shut down sites for simply having posted screenshots, or at least told them in no uncertain terms, to remove them. To find we have uploaded installation files to this site is a big concern to me and MUST be sorted.

Count me in!
Hi all,
I've been scrounging through these forums for a while now and have learnt a lot - cheers to all with the knowledge who are willing to share. I've managed to unlock XDA 1, 2 and 2s (ok, had to pay to sim unlock MDA3 - but found the link here! ;-) ) recently as mentioned we have a painfully slow site, a simple search provides 50 pages of mostly unrelated threads, 10 pages of which are all about the same thing! I'm more than happy to help sort out some proper FAQ pages; I've cocked up on ROM flashing due to country ID too! It's a panicky situation - none of us wants a 200-400 pound paperweight! In short - count me in for hands on help, I'd love to learn more but also help the others out a bit.
Mike

well i sent a pm to peter and no reply as yet (its only been a day so im not giving up yet) but i just read another post of someone tring to get in contact and he seemed to have very little luck... im running out of ideas here i want to help but if the main ppl are not around then we cant really do much... it looks like the admin team have gone completely awol ... im almost tempted to say we should find someon willing to do free hosting (someone mentioned it in one of th forums) and mirror the site...but that defeats the idea of having one nice place... id raher fix than replace....anyone got any ideas?

unapproachable2kx said:
try to ask more to Peter Poelman e Lumpistefan about admins. 8)
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I'm far away being an admin or anything else here. :roll: I'm just a normal user as you are...
But I've talked to a few of the xda-deveolpers team at the fair cebit in the middle of march. They have lot of work, so this maybe the point why they aren't so often in the forum. And i think for 99% the community just works well without any of those "admins"...
unapproachable2kx said:
-NEW Profiles: add XDA3,Magician,etc..options
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The profiles (XDA and XDA II) are a special patch for the phpBB-Software. Sadly this patch do not allow more than two profiles. This is the case why only those 2 profiles exists and why the forum is splitted in seperate sections (XDA, XDA II, MAgician, Blueangel, ...)
Regards
Stefan

hey thanks for the info lumpistefan
tis a bit of a shame we cant get hold of someone able to solve the slowness and ftp issue!
with regards to the faq's im gonna try and make an introduction to the himalaya cover sim lock flashing and a few other important things in my spare time if anyone feels like working on the other hansets feel free.. my plan is to do it over next couple of weeks and post it for review make sure i cover everything.

Looks like the site is starting to get quicker again.
Well done to who ever fixed this.
Much more enjoyable browsing through the posts.
Keep up the good work.

Amphetamine dust on the cpu did the trick.

Thank you tim_programmer for starting this topic.
I am coming towards the end of a project that's been keeping me busy. Once finished, I would be happy to lend a hand also.
Whilst lumpistefan has a point about admins, I believe they are needed. Human nature dictates that while the cat's away the mice will play. Trouble is, some of the mice (the 1%) are turning into rats
As regards WM2005, although I don't agree in censorship in that we should be able to discuss it, etc., it is obvious that Microsoft are not going to tolerate very much and we (the site) are on very thin ice by allowing hosting of content and links, etc. Again, it is the admins duty to sort this out. We have pushed the envelope with stuff before, but that involved already released products.
Some of us reverse, some of us hack. We can still do that when WM2005 is released officially (in whatever language )

i agree server has got quicker...tis nice
with regards to wm2005 its only the hosting im concerned with everything else like discussing hacking reverse engineering go for it!

Ummm.... (I'm feeling like I might regret this...) it wouldn't be that hard to start an alternative website for these machines. Not that I wish to minimise the huge contribution made by xda-developers.com to the understanding and improving of these HTC devices, but if the admins on this site don't have the time to moderate it and manage it and don't respond to offers of help or support then perhaps we should form an alternative?
I'm a web developer and have worked in the past with the Minerva forum/website package ( www.project-minerva.org ) and it's very very good when you're looking for a website-in-a-box. It wouldn't be so hard to set it up and try to take some of the load off xda-developers.com while acknowledging the work that's been done here so far.
Edit - as for the site getting quicker, well it isn't for me. Just took 5 minutes to submit this post...
I don't often look at this site these days because the speed is so bad. It'll be losing regulars already I'm sure.

wow. this hasn't been posted in in forever. Sorry to revive this but there is some good info here. I want to help get this site back on track as well. I have tons of free time to dedicate as well.

Yep, got to agree. The main problem is lazyness by posters. No one reads http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534.
There are so many infringements of 1,2,and 5.
But what can you do ? You can't just ban people, because its normally just done once or twice by somebody when they are desperate for a solution.
The problem here is, as was said higher up, the number of threads on the same subject almost makes the search useless because it is hard to find the one with the definitive answer. I try to help people but when you see a question that has been asked numerous times before you think "why should I bother, I'll have to search to point hime in the correct direction, so why can't he"
What I did suggest was that duplicated posts/repeated topics were moved to a repetition bin, and deleted after a week. But at the moment the amount of work for the mods each day would be huge.

I agree with everythig that has been said in this post, I have been browsing xda-developers for about 3 years now, altho i have only been registered about a year, as my contribution has been very little.
However i feel that my knowledge has increase greatly, mainly due to this site, and i would love to help with FAQ's, Admin, Reviews, and anything else you guys want help with. I dont have a lot of free time, but any that i do have i will gladly donate to xda-developers in the hope that we can make this site what it used to be.
I think it is obvious that something needs to be done, but at the moment we only have suggestions and unless someone steps forward with a solution that is all this post is going to be. (this sounds a bit harsh, sorry).
So here's to keeping the community alive.
Dahquim

kevino said:
Yep, got to agree. The main problem is lazyness by posters. No one reads http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534.
What I did suggest was that duplicated posts/repeated topics were moved to a repetition bin, and deleted after a week. But at the moment the amount of work for the mods each day would be huge.
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This would be a massive task, sure, but a site this big could do with more moderators to move and delete duplicate posts. There are a lot of people who have been a member of this site for quite some time who I am sure wouldn't mind chipping in to help if they were asked, I know I would like the chance to give more back to this site after the help, support and knowledge I have gained. How many moderators do we have at the moment? Just my thoughts, I love this forum and would love to help improve it.

domain expires this year!
kevino said:
Yep, got to agree. The main problem is lazyness by posters. No one reads http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534.
There are so many infringements of 1,2,and 5.
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Yes but that's your standard problem on all forums. The underlying problem is that the administrators have abandoned us. We need a few full time mods to make everything runs smoother. A LOT needs to be updated.
One of the biggest problems i noticed with the site immediately was it's speed. The one place we can improove the sites speed almost instantly is the search. There is NO search flood control in place. There is also no limit on the minimum size of a search string. So it's capturing at the at, or, it, to, etc. searches. Id needs to have wildcards enabled. and filter out two letter searches. (maybe even three, but with the phone names the filtering might just be a pain)
Also i don't know if anyone realizes but www.xda-developers.com will expire on 12/12 of 2006. I have emailed the person that is registered under the domain name and haven't received a reply yet. If i don't soon I may just go to a third party and reserve the domain when it expires. Although there's also the problem of getting all the infinite information off this guys server which is probably sitting in his basement in the netherlands.
It would be ideal to get another server and mirror this site on it as .net or something. But i don't know if we currently have enough traffic to generate the kind of revenue needed to keep the thing paid for.
And as a side note. Does anyone know how i can download from the ftp? It just disconnects me instantly with flashfxp, firefox, or ie.
[edit] also the search needs to have more options and a "titles only" search would greatly help narrow things down. There needs to be a "README: How to search" sticky detailing boolean searches.

How to Install Windows Mobile 6.1: The Guide

I made this little walk through so that maybe we can get rid of some of the common questions that get asked way too much. This guide will walk you through the process of app unlocking your phone, upgrading the rom, setting up the keyboard and setting up your connections. Beyond that, you are on your own. Please let me know if you have any issues.
Click below for the pdf:
Windows Mobile 6.1 - The Step By Step Guide
Fine Print: This guide was written using Rickwyatt's v.24 ROM. For Kavana's install, just click on the ROM file and follow from there.
I know this method to work. I took all the screen shots as I was flashing my phone. I never once got any errors.
as usual...any questions, PM Mikey.
(mods: 1.8mb is too large to attach???)

good work gixxy! i will sticky this..... i will also see if we can put this on the FTP here.

Great job gixxum this will be a great guide for the noobs.

Very clean procedures.
I used these to set up my phone and it was very nice.
Thank you.

this is what i've been looking for, a walkthrough. Thanks a bunch. You're the man!

Great work! keep it up brahh

Pretty nice guide Gixxum... I wish this was around when I did mine! (I went through 2,000 something pages before I decide I was dangerous enough to flash my phone)... This will come in handy when I eventually flash my phone to version 24 of ricky's rom. Keep up the good work!

i made the guide because this process is so easy...but if you are new to it, and do anything out of order, you end back here asking the same questions and getting flat out frustrated.. im hoping that this takes away that issue.
i figured by actually flashing my phone and documenting the whole process, that this is the most accurate way to do it. anyways...good luck guys/gals

Great Job Gixxum!
Great Job - I knew you had a soft side and not all tough as you come across at times!! I believe I have finally gotten my phone working! Now, I hope I get my nerve to add and change some settings. AND yes - I am going to read all the postings before I ask...
Out of curiosity - when my phone boots up and shuts down it has HTC and no mention of S620. Not a big deal, I don't care what it says as long as it works but I saw somewhere on a post that theirs says HTC S620. Just wondering...
I am not subscribed to any internet plan, just rely on wi-fi so I will try to make this work and be happy as a fiddle as us Southerners say!!!!!!!! plus can't say what I'd like to say here.........

tmac123 said:
Great Job - I knew you had a soft side and not all tough as you come across at times!! I believe I have finally gotten my phone working! Now, I hope I get my nerve to add and change some settings. AND yes - I am going to read all the postings before I ask...
Out of curiosity - when my phone boots up and shuts down it has HTC and no mention of S620. Not a big deal, I don't care what it says as long as it works but I saw somewhere on a post that theirs says HTC S620. Just wondering...
I am not subscribed to any internet plan, just rely on wi-fi so I will try to make this work and be happy as a fiddle as us Southerners say!!!!!!!! plus can't say what I'd like to say here.........
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if you go to start> settings > system information you will see it shows as an s620

You are right!

flashing the dash
When you entered all the connection set ups I have a question I have an unlocked tmobile dash I"m useing an AT&t card do I enter [email protected] info for connection stuff or tmobile cause it was first programed for tmobile?
Other than the keyboard thing is there anyother things that need tweeking like bluetooth or voice ? One more question could I go back and relash with say the rogers version of the rom if something went wrong with this one/ Thanks

janice45 said:
When you entered all the connection set ups I have a question I have an unlocked tmobile dash I"m useing an AT&t card do I enter [email protected] info for connection stuff or tmobile cause it was first programed for tmobile?
Other than the keyboard thing is there anyother things that need tweeking like bluetooth or voice ? One more question could I go back and relash with say the rogers version of the rom if something went wrong with this one/ Thanks
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you will select whatever carrier you use..in your case you would select att/cingular (whatever they are now).
nothing really needs tweeking...meaning everything should work.
yes you can reflash with an OEM rom and you can find those files in one of the sticky's on this forum

Great Job! Keep up the good work.
I'm going to try and see if i can get the guide to show up here rather than going to a link.
P.S: I have edited the title.

lukybandit said:
Great Job! Keep up the good work.
I'm going to try and see if i can get the guide to show up here rather than going to a link.
P.S: I have edited the title.
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yea i tried all i could and i couldnt get it to post in a good format. plus, the site wont let me link to more than 4 pics per post. i would have left it as a web page on my site, but i dont know how much traffic would be generated. so my last resort was to just make a pdf and host it on my box and hope for not too much traffic. so far so good.
you guys can take this and do what you want with it. just made it to offset my ability to be the biggest prick ever.. i figured i owed the community something. =P

gixxum said:
yea i tried all i could and i couldnt get it to post in a good format. plus, the site wont let me link to more than 4 pics per post. i would have left it as a web page on my site, but i dont know how much traffic would be generated. so my last resort was to just make a pdf and host it on my box and hope for not too much traffic. so far so good.
you guys can take this and do what you want with it. just made it to offset my ability to be the biggest prick ever.. i figured i owed the community something. =P
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lol you definitely owed the community after being a prick but turns out your actually a nice guy....
good job, though - i remember when i wrote the guide to upgrade from 5 to 6 and most people found that really helpful. see, when you have a guide, it just makes life so much easier than going around hunting for information.
having everything in one place makes it easier not only for noobs but experts too.
I'm working on getting everything on here. Hopefully, everything should work out.
Once again, Great Job ! Thanks for supporting this community.
P.S: by tommorow, I will be deleting posts in this thread including mine that does not have anything to do with the post.
No more thank you posts, only questions. Do you agree? Yes, I would love for everyone to say thanks to you but this way, we can keep it clean. I hope you know where I'm coming from. When I wrote the guide, even though - yes people did ask questions, which was fine but it just kept growing because most users would simply say thanks.

Oh yea, can you do me a favor? If you have all the images in one place..can you send me a folder...maybe a rapidshare link or something because I'm having a hard time getting the images off your pdf file, not really hard - just taking too long.

lukybandit said:
lol you definitely owed the community after being a prick but turns out your actually a nice guy....
good job, though - i remember when i wrote the guide to upgrade from 5 to 6 and most people found that really helpful. see, when you have a guide, it just makes life so much easier than going around hunting for information.
having everything in one place makes it easier not only for noobs but experts too.
I'm working on getting everything on here. Hopefully, everything should work out.
Once again, Great Job ! Thanks for supporting this community.
P.S: by tommorow, I will be deleting posts in this thread including mine that does not have anything to do with the post.
No more thank you posts, only questions. Do you agree? Yes, I would love for everyone to say thanks to you but this way, we can keep it clean. I hope you know where I'm coming from. When I wrote the guide, even though - yes people did ask questions, which was fine but it just kept growing because most users would simply say thanks.
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yea thats why i did the page 1..."get this and this and continue". by doing it this way with the screen shots...you cant really mess up. you have everything and you have pics to reassure you are going the right way. its just the order in which you have to do things that i cannot stress enough.
i agree. if you have a question or comment either pm me here or email me at [email protected] directly. you can also find me on AIM (gixxum) for quick questions and what not.
and yes sir i have all the files handy. you can find the .zip here

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yea thats why i did the page 1..."get this and this and continue". by doing it this way with the screen shots...you cant really mess up. you have everything and you have pics to reassure you are going the right way. its just the order in which you have to do things that i cannot stress enough.
i agree. if you have a question or comment either pm me here or email me at [email protected] directly. you can also find me on AIM (gixxum) for quick questions and what not.
and yes sir i have all the files handy. you can find the .zip here
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do you use yahoo messenger? if so, send me a PM with your address so I could add you. I have most regulars on yahoo.
p.s: Thanks for the zip. I'm still trying to figure out how to post that many images here. Problem is, there's too many images (which is a good thing) but bad thing here since it's got limits.

eta for working camera and sound?`

Hi, I'm using android on my tilt 2 right now and like it quite a bit. However, I won't use it full time because it doesn't have sound support or camera support, or bluetooth lol.
Do we have an ETA for those things?
Also, would someone please instruct me as to how I can find/measure the hardware interrupts of the device so that I may pass the info along to some other developers I know who don't have an HTC phone.
Thanks
Smith

i feel a flaming coming on... you might want to read some threads before speaking in here...

It's an honest enough question here.
I don't mean to seem impatient, because i'm not. I'm happy with what there is. Was simply wondering, especially because I may be able to contribute to the project.
If you're going to flame though, I guess it's time to get your caps-lock on. Won't bother me.

You could have asked this in one of the main threads... or used the search function to search for your answer which has been all along "when we get it we get it... no eta"
Seems pointless to start a new thread on this thats all

smithisize said:
It's an honest enough question here.
I don't mean to seem impatient, because i'm not. I'm happy with what there is. Was simply wondering, especially because I may be able to contribute to the project.
If you're going to flame though, I guess it's time to get your caps-lock on. Won't bother me.
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No one questions your honesty. It is just that this topic has been discussed ad nauseum. It would have been easier for you to just to do a simple search.
...It's an honest enough answer here.

HeXeD said:
i feel a flaming coming on... you might want to read some threads before speaking in here...
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haha.. a good roast always teaches you to use the search function anyways .lol

smithisize said:
Hi, I'm using android on my tilt 2 right now and like it quite a bit. However, I won't use it full time because it doesn't have sound support or camera support, or bluetooth lol.
Do we have an ETA for those things?
Also, would someone please instruct me as to how I can find/measure the hardware interrupts of the device so that I may pass the info along to some other developers I know who don't have an HTC phone.
Thanks
Smith
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Last I heard was something about by July, but refusing to lock it down to a specific year.

no1 knows man, it will come out when it comes out ,just gotta wait

This question has been asked many times in this forums, but at the current state for the Rhodium, we don't have drivers for the sound from what I have heard.
As for bluetooth, I am not sure what the current state is, but I heard that the bluetooth is a completely different from other devices that HTC has made.
Kenichi

Maybe we should make this a sticky for those who can't read too good or are too lazy to use the search option. Kind of getting tired of going through the main thread and half the posts are just the same regurgitated questions. Or maybe we should create a ban if the same question has been asked more than say 3 times.

If you want to help there is some IRC channel or something I think I remember reading. or PM phhusson maybe? He seems to be heavily involved.
In case you didnt notice, people are a little sensitive about the sound/camera questions around here. Probably because they were flamed for asking it too It almost like it is the first question everyone asks when running android for the first time.

cameraand sound?
I think that's like asking when exactly will Windows Phone 7 come out, or when will the next solar eclipse be, maybe even, where did you put your keys last?
When people get it to work is when you will have it. I don't think anyone knows exactly how it works, something to do with hardware issues, so until it's cracked/figured out there can't be a date.

roast him !!!!

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I think that's like asking when exactly will Windows Phone 7 come out, or when will the next solar eclipse be, maybe even, where did you put your keys last?
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That's it! I now know we're getting sound and bluetooth on July 11th this year, at precisely 19:34:38 UTC!
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEmono/TSE2010/TSE2010.html
Sorry, couldn't resist Gotta admit, eclipses are really interesting things. Maybe read about 'em to pass the time while the chefs continue do their awesome work on these difficult technological puzzles.

really
some of you guys are funny and make jokes about it which is funny and tolerable, but then we have those "followers" that repeat what is already stated (roast em this and that it was said already really how many posts do we have to see about that.) its a forum, it a community and give positive help and stop always cherping because a. u probably didnt have the nadz to roast anyone and b. really you didnt have to come to the post to read it you could have easliy went to the next one. its ten times easier to give help and pass a joke damn stop being so uptight become a leader not a follower...pretty much everything is unknown till they release it or they mention it on the site, but feel as thou the camera will probably be the last thing thou if they do get it to work properly (all speculative based on the fuze)

A good read: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=121743

Well, it's good to see some positive feedback on here
I appreciate all of your guys' answers!

I came accross this video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6pr8AJxbg
It is showing a working speaker while in-call @ 4min.
How's that possible ?
I guess it was a mistake making the ARM9 launch the rear-speaker when in call, but can't that help ?

Scotchy49 said:
I came accross this video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6pr8AJxbg
It is showing a working speaker while in-call @ 4min.
How's that possible ?
I guess it was a mistake making the ARM9 launch the rear-speaker when in call, but can't that help ?
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he was using the speakerphone when he booted android. you know, it seems a lot of crap is dependant upon being active in windows for it to work in android (keyboard backlight, front hardkey lights, etc.). i wonder is there a way to make everything active at boot time, like camera, speaker, etc etc. not saying it would magically make the stuff work properly, but might make it easier to mess with some stuff to try n get it working ?

I was thinking the same thing, I tried playing music when I started up android.. no luck, and the speaker phone is just a line the the startup.txt if Im remembering correctly

XDA Maintenance and Forums Restored from Backups

As many of you may have heard, we underwent routine maintenance on our Database Server last night (9/25). Upon rebooting the Database Server, it refused to boot and all indications are that the RAID 10 (what is RAID? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID) array failed.
We have restored the Forums from a 24 hour old backup. We know this is not ideal, but at this point, the chances of recovering the failed array are slim.
We sincerely apologize for this.
Technical Info:
This maintenance was intended to boost the redundancy of our database setup and "lightening struck".
The maintenance was to update the OS and make a configuration change to allow us to introduce a slave DB server which would replicate all data on the primary DB server. We are currently running off this intended "slave server" as a master.

ouch how does Raid 10 fail!? hope all is well!

At least your back!
Hoorah for back ups!
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

hurray for raid!!!

Now up but strange...

svetius said:
We have restored the Forums from a 24 hour old backup.
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is there any chance to restore newer entries too?

snq- said:
is there any chance to restore newer entries too?
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Most likely not, except for Google's cache that stores some of the sites stuff

Could I please request that this information is posted across all the forums ? It certainly confused me as to where my recent posts etc had gone.

God damn!!!
I had some brilliant posts about statistics on overclocking HD2 and now those posts all gone

Thanks svetius, I was about to post an annoucement on hero and desire, but you beat me...
Sorry to hear about this. Time to action the RPs again, cap'ntrek

Now this isn't the greatest way to start a day
I did notice the downtime messages, which you guys kept refreshing with status updates, and noticed the forums return. It's a shame you guys had to use a 24 hrs old backup but hey things are up and running again.
I wouldn't know what to do without my favourite forum.
Besides the set back on posts i want to say GREAT JOB guys for getting things up again, and a very big THANK YOU for keeping us posted during the process.

pulser_g2 said:
Thanks svetius, I was about to post an annoucement on hero and desire, but you beat me...
Sorry to hear about this. Time to action the RPs again, cap'ntrek
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Yes boss

Captainkrtek said:
Yes boss
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Hehe. To the mod-mobile This means bans and warnings will need issued again...

pulser_g2 said:
Hehe. To the mod-mobile This means bans and warnings will need issued again...
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Oh great haha its 2 am where iam

So things I posted yesterday day are gone

I now understand what's going on. Thought I had lost my mind for a minute.
Not sure how we raise awareness of this issue across the site as there are a lot of confused people out there. I am beginning to get pms on it.
WB

wacky.banana said:
I now understand what's going on. Thought I had lost my mind for a minute.
Not sure how we raise awareness of this issue across the site as there are a lot of confused people out there. I am beginning to get pms on it.
WB
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Hi mate, there's a global announcement above every forum, but perhaps mike or svetius could add a new notice in place of the announcement, as it might be easier to see (since there are no notices in normal circumstances)

wacky.banana said:
I now understand what's going on. Thought I had lost my mind for a minute.
Not sure how we raise awareness of this issue across the site as there are a lot of confused people out there. I am beginning to get pms on it.
WB
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Sorry My friend fore the PM I send you!? But I was lost.
I thought that fore some reason 25/September/2010 was band? It was like a dream to see lot of thing we thought to have solved/see/replay/posted and now there isn't anymore!?
But NP we will have patience/understanding fore this issue.

For the size XDA is its pretty sad that you're not replicating your DB.

Glad the forum is back.

Shout-out to you kin users.

STOP RUSHING ME AND LET ME DO WHAT I NEED TO DO. I have school you know. This is my last full week that I have to see my friends and other things like that, then it's off to exams. If you were on my end, You'd see how busy I am. AND if he had a facebook, I hacked my friend's KIN as well. So guys please stop rushing me. It is starting to make me mad. Ever since I had said something you guys have been up my @ßß. If you wish not to end up in the current state I'm on (which is possibly a brick waiting for a phone to come tomorrow) then I suggest you wait. @johnkussiack, please come in feel free to comment leave your opinions but tell these guys how hard it is to hack a phone successfully. I would hate to see you guys end up with a brick, and I would feel responsible. Let me do what needs to be done. I'll upload screenshots and what I've done, Give me time.
All the best,
Kinuser1
(Tyler Jones)

just upload the guide honestly & let the users choose for themselves weather or not they want a brick. I got a year warranty so I will return it till im blue in the face. What did you expect when you first stated that you found a way into the Kin & made the announcement?
I mean come on Yes We know you had a death in your family and stated that it would take you a week to write a simple guide. The problem I see is this you spoke up first & then you expect people to wait patiently which in all seriousness no offense was a stupid thought in your head because its not going to happen.
All Im waiting for is the guide once thats in place I will choose for myself weather or not I will chance a brick to hack or screw around in my phone. No offense but its the truth. I wouldnt of said anything till I had a guide or the time personally.

Kid, (way older), i'm not playing devil's advocate here.
While it's true that hacking something is complicated, I'm with 4LC4PON3 this time. Being a big thing (or not), you cannot shout it to the winds and then go back to a cave.
Test it, do it, ensure it, then tell.
My app could be released atm, but of course would do crap things, yet i assured that it works even if i press Conn+Disconn 30 times. Ever post without being sure of what you do and what will you do next.

To be truthful with you guys, the screenshot was a fake, EXCEPT THE RECENT BOX AND TIME BOX, I edited those so they shade until you click them. I wanted you guys to lay off me for awhile. But I promise, I did not pull your chain guys, I hate when people do that, trust me, I had the enV touch and someone said they had android on the phone but it was a fake. The guy took a picture from google and pasted on the phone. So I left the facebook group because people were flaming me. Well guys later.

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To be truthful with you guys, the screenshot was a fake, EXCEPT THE RECENT BOX AND TIME BOX, I edited those so they shade until you click them. I wanted you guys to lay off me for awhile. But I promise, I did not pull your chain guys, I hate when people do that, trust me, I had the enV touch and someone said they had android on the phone but it was a fake. The guy took a picture from google and pasted on the phone. So I left the facebook group because people were flaming me. Well guys later.
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No offence but you sound so...not smart right know. I dont want to make fun of you and then come to find out you have the guide, but just like John said, Test it, do it, ensure it, then tell.

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To be truthful with you guys, the screenshot was a fake, ...
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Here i stopped having any interest. As i told ya, post or don't post, but no teasers.
You can do small things, you can asure people that you got access to the phone, you can say that you did but you dont know what to do with it.
But never.... ever!! fake things. Now every post that you text, every image that you upload... will have the "Suspicius fake?" mark above it, even if this time is real.
Also, you were flamed in the group with reasons. You posted in a cocky mood about "recording your face when you see it", and then you say that some pictures were fake. That's flame fuel.
PS: btw, my nick doesnt have any "i" character. It's like the actor, but with "K". Just cause i saw it twice by now.

My problem is this. Like I said I understood you had a death in your family but you have a cocky attitude for one got on my nerves, You Faked the photo which I already had doubts on anyways.
What got me is this you said that you have been having problems with your phone for sometime now even before you started hacking into it. Then all of a sudden your phone doesnt turn on correctly you blamed it on the "So Called Hacks"
Prior to this you made a statement that you didnt want help because you didnt want people "stealing your work"
If you do have access to the phone put up the guide even if you did screw your phone up Ok but you cant claim something then never do it. We are Adults here not children it is our choice weather or not we want to attempt the job or not. There are smart users here that you & we can benefit from to get it done faster.
It doesnt take that long to write a simple guide. Either in my opinion A You are just B.S & trying to make yourself sound important or Your just lazy & cant write a 30 minute Tutorial.
Side Note You stated on Facebook when I got mad you said Do you want me to make a video showing proof?. If you can take time to make a video you can easily make time to write the tutorial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gblaKaQ_2Qc
Watch then leave me be and start getting busy.

Sigh... This last post is an offense to all of us who have a real bricked kin.

It is not bricked like I said, IT IS BROKE

EDIT
I'm actually not sure if it is bricked because it wont turn on

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I'm actually not sure if it is bricked because it wont turn on
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POST THE DAMN GUIDE AND STOP WHINING ABOUT THE STUPID BRICK, IT SEEMS LIKE THE PHONE WAS YOUR TYPING HANDS BECAUSE IT REALLY EFFECTED YOU BEING ABLE TO TYPE THE GUIDE!
Thanks

Wow. some people here need to CALM DOWN. Give the guy a break. If he is in possession of useful information, name calling and what not is not going to help. If he isn't, name calling and what not is not going to help. While I think it would reflect poorly on him if he has been falsely leading people on, I for one take any 'breaking' news here with a grain of salt. I'll believe it when I see the proof, and until then, I'm not going to get all bent out of shape about it.
I'm somewhat hopeful for what JohnKussack's discoveries may hold, and mainly because he has actually been able to demonstrate what he has discovered.

@soninja8 I am going to say this for the last and final time.
STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO. Are you the one who found out? NO!
Let me do what I need to do and shutup
@Marcellus1 thank you for understanding

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@soninja8 I am going to say this for the last and final time.
STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO. Are you the one who found out? NO!
Let me do what I need to do and shutup
@Marcellus1 thank you for understanding
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Im just not understanding why the guide cant be posted thats all. I understand that your busy and all, but you seem to have enough time posting videos of your phone not working and talking about random things...

edit cause im tired of his drama

where do you get it?

Thanks for doing some little thread necromancy, but i think that this dead horse should not be beaten (again).