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Hi folks,
I'm considering switching from the PDA2K to the JAM - has anybody else done this ?? If so, what are your impressions?
I've been a user of the XDAII for 18 months now and switched to the PDA2K in November. Even though the new model has a keyboard/Wi-Fi etc.. I find the device unreliable and awkward to work with.
cheers
Russ
rscott,
I am in almost exactly the same situation as you. I used a XDA II for about 10 months and then switched to the PDA2K. I really do like it, but I think the processor should have been upgraded to the latest generation even if the speed wasn't boosted up. Mine pauses quite a bit between switching apps, but it has been quite reliable.
I am actually evaluating an imate JAM right now for Geek.com and am really loving the size and speed of the device. WiFi isn't that important to me because I have other devices with it and can always add it with a card if I need it. I only use WiFi at home so it is more of a convenience. I think I would miss the memory capacity, but Pocket PC Techs does offer a 128MB upgrade so that is an alternative.
I do use the thumb keyboard for much of my text entry though and think I would miss that functionality. I may just hold out for the MDA IV with faster processor and improved camera that will undoubtedly be coming sometime this year and maybe with the Windows Mobile 2005 (Magneto) operating system.
Yes, I find my PDA2K seems very slow at times. Switching applications the screen redraw reminds me of the early WinCE devices. Considering this machine is practically the same spec as my XDAII I would've thought there would be little difference in performance.
My unit also seems unresponsive and sometimes just seems to sit there 'thinking' after I have done something. Quite often I give up waiting and perform a soft-reset.
When I first saw the PDA2K it was the keyboard that made me part with my cash. However, I find that I rarely use it. Maybe I have become so used to using the on-screen keyboard I forget to use it.
As for Wi-Fi, the only place I can use it is at home. Maybe it is a feature I'll use more in the future but for now I don't really use it as much as I thought I would.
It is for these reasons why I am considering the Jam. I think I can live without the keyboard and Wi-Fi, but will gain a device that is much smaller and can fit in a pocket.
So, I am very interested to hear the results of your evaluation!
cheers
Russ.
To solve your speed problems...
How about using XCPUScalar? I'm using it, overclocking my XDAII with 530mhz. Everything is nice and smooth.
I also upgraded my XDAII to WindowsSE, so except the form factor, I don't see any advantages in the JAM at this moment. I would run out of space on the JAM, so I will be sticking with my good old new XDAII.
I will be evaluating the scene and the new models to come out...
Well, I finally gave in and bought a Jam from Expansys which should be here tomorrow
The missus works from home and sends/receives a lot of email. At the moment she is trialling my old XDA II to see if that would help her keep up to date when out of the 'office'. So now she can have the PDA2K as the keyboard will be great for all the typing etc..
I'll have the Jam, and 'borrow' then PDA2K when I need a fix of that ;-)
Just got to get rid of the XDAII now.
cheers
Russ.
Strange. I don't have slowdown problems at all. Maybe u guys should learn installing a decent operating system with ur softwares, and keep tryin usin wm2003se compatible softwares. Ur waiting for magneto? Firstly i would advise a step by step how to configure our mobile device training.
Cheers
Guest...this would be very interesting...where can we find that sort of training?...I have the I-mate JAM and on the original ROM there are some applications I will never us...so I want to uninstall them...:roll:
regards,
Primoz
My PDA2K definitely experiences slowdown, and this is with no other software installed !
The only thing I have done is upgrade to the latest official ROM. So there must be something inherent in the device that is causing this.
cheers
Russ.
I have been using my XDAIIs for about one month. I find that its performance is similar to XDAII (upgraded to 2nd Edition) as anticipated.
However, (this is only my personal experience), I do not install much software in my device by only chinese platform software, handmenu, tweak 2.41, batterymon (a battery indicator on the tray bar) and pocket informant leaving about 93mb on my main memory. Other software such as pocket genius dictionary and games are installed in storage card. I do not use any other software for today plug in too.
I am using Pocket Hack Master 3.04 lowering to 298MHZ with 133 and 133 memory speed.
I also do not adjust the memory allocation between program and storage (let the device to decide - usually half and half)
The result is that my XDAIIs is very stable, sceen run speedy (even faster than 400MHZ without PHM 3.04.....
In the past, I adjust PHM to 472, 199 and 236 (max speed I think), it is fast too but not as good as those mentioned above in terms of stability and battery life, also always hangs too....
I also noted that every device needs time to learn (After soft reset), so try to open those application and close it (I meant actually close, not just click X), it seems the device will memorise it... I noted that after doing this exercise, the total memory available will drop to about 81-88Mb....At this state, this is the most stable state of my device....
Hi guys,
I used PDA2K for 2 months, but then I decided to buy JAM as soon has been available.
The form factor is absoultely prevalent (it was not so evident from the photo on web) !! I use it everyday on work, and it stays in my pocket like a phone; completely different.
I used rarely the keyboard on PDA2K, so I didn't suffer for this; same for Wi-FI.
I think JAM is the real convergent device.
The only "minus" is the sensibility of the touch screen (on Jam is less sensible, so it is more difficult to tap with finger).
Hai ragione italos :wink: U R rigtht...the touch screen should be a little bit more sensitiv...I have got a SE P900 before and it was much more sensitive than on the JAM. How about the LED indicator?...I have noticeted when I have a new SMS in "sleep mode" it is always green and not yellow (red) as it should be!...
regards,
Primoz
no doubt that anybody who holds the PDA2K and the Jam (or XDA2 mini - as i have) will go for the jam. I can tell you that in my last company event event where I had my mini - 3 PDA2K deceided to replace + I already bought two units to new users.
the PDA2k is simply too big and slow - wifi? most of us I guess are XDA2 owners (as I am) so we have the wifi card and if not then 70US and you ahve it.
Furthermore the camera is much better and the form factor? well it's already been said....
One important thing that I 've noticed is teh battery life - much longer than the XDA2 - I guess because of teh small screen.
Udi
I heard that apart from the size of sceen saves some power for the mini, smaller memory size of mini does contribute to its longer operations time.
Howdy
My father still hangs on to his 3630 he got from me years and years ago, even though the battery is somewhat to be desired and i do realy think he has no idea where his stylus is
Anyho, i was wondering if any of you gifted young people know if its possible to replace the wm2003 (i think it was i downloaded for it) with a linux based os?
-Thomas
Just sold my s620.
Am deciding between s630, asus m530w and hp 914
what do you guys think of the s630 ?
Hello,
i have the S620, think to buy an S630 ... (UMTS) .. but i want Windows Mobile 6.1 and i have no found this os for the s630
The asus are nice, but the same as the s620/s630: no gps
The ipaq 914 are my very big favorit, but i think it takes 6-8 month .. hp has problems and i don't think the ipaq 914 comes in 2 month (HP wrotes that to me)
cheers
I was interested in the HP 614, but put off by the depth and the serious bug it has with 3G.
The HP 914 looks nice but very over priced. Maybe I will wait. I don't really need to have GPS, but in some ways would prefer it over 3G which seems to just be a battery drain.
Eten make some lovely devices with GPS, e.g. the x600. unfortunately none have a non-sliding/folding keyboard which I don't like.
I have 'upgraded' from S620 to the S630 and my advice is............don't do it. The only advantage with the S630 is 3G connectivity.....but other than that I have found it to be extremely unstable (reboot once a day), not as well designed as the S620 and currently very poorly supported (not even shown on the HTC website).
lhickin said:
I have 'upgraded' from S620 to the S630 and my advice is............don't do it. The only advantage with the S630 is 3G connectivity.....but other than that I have found it to be extremely unstable (reboot once a day), not as well designed as the S620 and currently very poorly supported (not even shown on the HTC website).
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thx
I might wait for a few firmware versions
what do you think about the weight and size compared to the s620 ?
actually, after thinking about it, I have decided to buy a new s620
Good choice on the S620
HTC seem to have all but abandoned the S630 - there are no updates for it and its not even listed on their website anymore....
Dopod have a couple of newer ROM's for the C730 (same as S630) but until I can find a way to unlock and SuperCID my S630 - I'm stuck on the crappy HTC ROM.
I'm very pleased with the s630, it has been rock solid with not one crash in my first week. I have moved from a treo 750 and prefer the non-touchscreen win mob variant. I've not had any memory issues either, often running 8/9 apps with no apparant slow down. Wifi connects easily, the device is well made and solid feeling. I've turned off 3g and run it on GSM only which helps battery life considerably, I rarely need 3g when out and about, preferring instead to do data downloading via wifi where available. I think it is a great device.
Well I see there is a lot of support for HP iPaq PDAs, even the very old ones. I used the search function but to no avail.
I'm just wondering if its even remotely possible to upgrade this thing to windows mobile 5 at least.
I've seen hints when app websites try to recognize the device..they recognize it as a generic device and in brackets they put (iPaq "model number" and another brand).
Is it possible that a ROM for another brand might work with the e800?
I love the device...it was handed down to me and I've been trying to use it to its full potential..and I've seen equal spec'd devices operating at higher OS versions. Is it just lack of popularity?
Thanks. I know I'm a newbie and asking for a lot...
Empire2500 said:
Well I see there is a lot of support for HP iPaq PDAs, even the very old ones. I used the search function but to no avail.
I'm just wondering if its even remotely possible to upgrade this thing to windows mobile 5 at least.
I've seen hints when app websites try to recognize the device..they recognize it as a generic device and in brackets they put (iPaq "model number" and another brand).
Is it possible that a ROM for another brand might work with the e800?
I love the device...it was handed down to me and I've been trying to use it to its full potential..and I've seen equal spec'd devices operating at higher OS versions. Is it just lack of popularity?
Thanks. I know I'm a newbie and asking for a lot...
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I had two E800s and loved the bright large VGA screens and the connectability. But after reburning their ROMs to the latest WM2003SE version they started to lose their ROM images and kept needing to be reburned. The good news is that it forced me on to WM5 and WM6 devices. The E800s (even if they had survived) would never have been able to be upgraded to WM5 mainly because they stored almost all user data and programs in volatile RAM memory. The E800 had a small amount of user writable ROM, but not enough to carry the whole new WM5 operating system. They also needed a backup battery to stop loss of all user data when the main battery failed or ran out. The newer WM5 and WM6 devices do not need such a battery. In summary, it is actually impossible to upgrade.
Having now had two WM5 and WM6 devices as replacements, also VGA screens, it is well worth changing device. Shame, as the E800s were beautiful and rugged high performance devices!
Please HELP!!!
I need a download link for htc hermes android or linux
my friend there is none, and there will never be, hermes hardware is not enough for this upgrade. best for you to stay in wm 6.1! not even 6.5!!!
Indeed, android can be run starting with the TyTN II, not with TyTN I/Hermes. Too low in memory and cpu.
I have the TYTN/Hermes. Tried wm6.5. It's nice but very memory consuming. Eventually ended up using wm6.1 roms.
labrok said:
my friend there is none, and there will never be, hermes hardware is not enough for this upgrade. best for you to stay in wm 6.1! not even 6.5!!!
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never say never.. here it is running on the apache.. cdma brother of the hermes
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-apache/43753-android-release-htc-apache-cdma-works.html
I agree w/Spardorp, Hermes resources would barely run Android.
Best to use a fast wm6.1 ROM then emulate the Android look with the use of skins/themes.
Reading the link that you provided re:Apache/Android you'll note that hardly anything useful yet works.
IOW, don't hold your breath. Until there's a "working" linux kernel for the Hermes, even a sluggish Android won't happen.
I correct myself: Android may not be sluggish on Hermes, just that it IS older ARM processor for which the original Android sourcecode would have to be recompiled.
see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=404145
specifically
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2592600&postcount=20
Just thought I'd say that I heard Android is a Linux distribution, or something like that. What I really heard was that Android is based on a Linux kernel. You can check for yourself here. Maybe if you got a really stripped down version of Linux you could put it on a Hermes somehow. What would be cool to is if you could modify a Hermes and install a high speed Micro SD card in side it, that can be used as RAM or something. I think they have that on a phone Called Omnia. I think it's called NAND. But anyway excuse any mistakes I have made, because I am only 11 years old.