Therb cam are many USB web cam out there for PC, but none of them is for PPC. Any developer who saw this message kind enough to write a USB cam driver for PPC......Many thanks!
The USB hardware on the device is a client only, not a host, and therefore will not support something like a camera which is also a client.
Carlos said:
The USB hardware on the device is a client only, not a host, and therefore will not support something like a camera which is also a client.
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"There is, however, still no support for making a Windows CE–based platform itself appear as a USB peripheral to other host computers. This is because Windows CE only implements the host side of the USB client/host architecture."
Taken from http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...eddk/htm/wceddkWriting_USB_Device_Drivers.asp
That page would imply that the Device is actually a USB Host, not client.
..Chuck..
SPV Cam is connected to a series port.
I discover a cam for xda!
http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32542
This is exactly the sort of thing I expected long ago. It's not exactly a huge challenge use SD memory block moves to transfer a still image from the camera to the device. Unlikely to get video, of course.
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i am sure for alot of people out they have searched for something to make their usb devices work on a pocket PC. i have gathered some information with regard to this topic and i hope that other users will add to it so that there is a greater awareness and mayb it will help someone figure out the best way to create 1 for the PPC
right now the there is no external USB host controller for pocket pc.
the reason we need the USB host is so that we can connect external USB devices. but i believe that we also need to load the drivers for devices as well.
wat i think is the way the device should work is the usb host for ppc should have drivers built into it so that when u connect a flash drive for example it can identify it and then send the necessary info into the PPC so that the PPC will then handle it in the correct manner. thereafter on the PPC we will probably find it as an additional drive.
I think that connectivity will actually work via the SDIO and not via the USB port.
If there are any other senior members that can elaborate on this it will be great, it will shed some more light on this feature.
I personally would love to have this feature, not for any specific external device but just the ability to have interoperability with all my usb devices onto my PPC.
reo
there are usb host CF cards i believe
not sure if anybody ever made to test in a himalaya backpack which have a CF card
thing with usb devices is that usb mass storage one 1 generic driver
so one for external hd's sdreaders and usb keyring would be enough
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http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html
do you think that it can be converted from CF to SDIO ?
I actually searched for a CF to SDIO converte but no luck, however even if i do find it what are the chance that it will even work!!
anybody knows more about this ?
reo
it could easy brake because of the size diff
another problem is it would require 2.5watt to power a usb host
not sure if the sd interface can provide that kinda power at all
ok, but considering that we can overlook these obstacles will the converter actually allow for the CF USB to work ?
do you no where i can find a CF to SDIO converter ?
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I've got a question about "USB Host" as well... I read somewhere, that some processors are capable of USB Host but the companies didn't do the wiring in their devices. and of course the drivers are missing in Win CE.
So my question is: Can I connect USB-Devices to my PDA if I build a USB-wire where I inject 5V from outside and run linux on my device with USB-support built in the kernel?
Does anyone tried this Program?
http://htc-blackstone-100.handster.com/software.php?id=3339&for=HTC+Blackstone+100
Just found it by accident and don't have a fitting cable
It's look like a fake, because: http://htc-unexisting-model.handster.com/product.php?id=3339
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On the Teksoft homepage there's a driver for bluetooth input too, seems to work in the demo videos?
Teksoft BlueInput and Dell Mouse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEoQWN9gzHc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhdUQZxZLoQ
Has anyone tried this and found it to work / not work.
I want to connect a Leica Total Station (Surveying Equipment) (http://www.leica-geosystems.com/uk/en/lgs_67104.htm) to my Blackstone and use the Leica "Pocket Instrument Explorer" to get the two talking to each other.
On the PC the computer and instrument are connected with a Prolific USB-Serial Converter cable on a standard male Type A USB.
I have a USB Type A to USB Minin converter to physically connnect the Blackstone to Instrument. The software (which, has installed fine and seems to work) has all sorts of settings for COM3 and COM4.
I know that the USB on the Blackstone is not a HOST but I suspect that this is the case on many PDAs and if the case I see no reason why Leica would develope the software if there is not a way to connect them.
Anyone who wants to try this will need the PIE software which is a locked download for Leica Members. I will email a copy to you if desired but do not want to post it here for general distribution.
Wondering for those who have received theirs if they can confirm whether or not the USB adapter successfully allows connection from the 10.1 to a digital camera (for uploading photos).
And by the way mods, this is a specific accessory related question, not a general question, so please do not move.
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Wondering for those who have received theirs if they can confirm whether or not the USB adapter successfully allows connection from the 10.1 to a digital camera (for uploading photos).
And by the way mods, this is a specific accessory related question, not a general question, so please do not move.
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Should work if the camera supports mass storage. I never use the USB cable from my Pentax K-5 so I can't tell you for sure.
Going to try a card reader tomorrow.
I am having trouble using a Canon DSLR. The camera says that it is busy (indicating that it is connected), but my GT shows no files in the usbStorage folder. USB Drives work well. I have a CF Reader that I could use if needed. The direct connection would be more convenient though.
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I am having trouble using a Canon DSLR. The camera says that it is busy (indicating that it is connected), but my GT shows no files in the usbStorage folder. USB Drives work well. I have a CF Reader that I could use if needed. The direct connection would be more convenient though.
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Which Canon? I know the 7D does NOT support USB mass storage, it supports some other less-standard protocol. (Might be MTP but not sure). I know that whatever the 7D supports, it won't allow you to download RAW files without a card reader. (At least this was the case on a WinXP machine that I didn't have Administrator rights on.) Epically stupid design IMO, my experiences with a 7D at work have me pretty disappointed with it compared to my Pentaxes.
Since you mention CF I'm guessing it's a 7D.
I am using a 30D. It seems that that model does NOT support USB mass storage mode either.
I have to look for my reader to see it will work.
I guess we will have to wait for a kernel module to implement the communication protocol.
Unfortunately it's hard to find much information at all about Linux support for whatever protocol the Canons use - nearly everyone just uses card readers.
I am running Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop and it will connect to the camera and browse the contents.
I am not sure if that helps any. I am not sure how much work it would be to port those libraries over. I am not even sure what package it is using to create the connection. I can do some more examining to figure out what the module it is using.
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It looks like I am using the libgphoto2-2 library to communicate with the camera. It has a few dependencies that may not be possible to port.
http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libgphoto2-2
Having Asus Vivotab RT faced with the serious problem - Windows RT has no drivers for a big (even most part) of peripherals (scanners. printers, MFP, usb-cameras etc). Its very sad for so expencive device (+OS). Peripherals manufacturers, seems, are not interested in drivers development for Win RT Becose of that, I can't use most part of peripherals at home or office. I've been trying to use win 7(8) drivers, installing them by clicking right button on .inf-file. But this way was unrealizable. So, is there any other way to solve the problem with less of peripherals drivers for Win RT???
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Having Asus Vivotab RT faced with the serious problem - Windows RT has no drivers for a big (even most part) of peripherals (scanners. printers, MFP, usb-cameras etc). Its very sad for so expencive device (+OS). Peripherals manufacturers, seems, are not interested in drivers development for Win RT Becose of that, I can't use most part of peripherals at home or office. This way was unrealizable. So, is there any other way to solve the problem with less of peripherals drivers for Win RT???
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Read microsofts various pages and blog posts.
Manufacturers are not allowed to make drivers for windows RT. The jailbreak tool we have doesnt allow drivers to be added either.
Scanners and usb cameras are not supported in windows RT at all. Printers are.
We cant fix this problem. New drivers can only be installed via windows update. Microsoft has to do them. Its also a very difficult task for them to write drivers for the huge amount of hardware on the market.
Oh, we *can* install drivers manually... it's getting them past the signature enforcement that's a trick.
I suspect that the same jailbreak hack we have now can be modified to bypass the kernel mode driver signature enforcement. Either directly put the OS into Testsigning mode, or spoof the results of the signature check, or something else of that nature.
Of course, then you're in the same place as the desktop software problem: you can only run ARM code, and almost nobody is writing ARM drivers for Windows NT. Unlike with desktop software, there's also very few open-source NT drivers. Non-zero, but very, very few.
Scanner
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Having Asus Vivotab RT faced with the serious problem - Windows RT has no drivers for a big (even most part) of peripherals (scanners. printers, MFP, usb-cameras etc). Its very sad for so expencive device (+OS). Peripherals manufacturers, seems, are not interested in drivers development for Win RT Becose of that, I can't use most part of peripherals at home or office. This way was unrealizable. So, is there any other way to solve the problem with less of peripherals drivers for Win RT???
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HP has an app for scanning, but only works for network capable scanners. I've tried it with my home scanner, which is actually an Epson, and to my surprise it actually worked. The name of the app is 'HP Scan and Capture'.
As far as printing goes, I've been able to connect to about a dozen or so. My Epson at home, and all of the HP LaserJets at work. A few I had to manually select a driver, on the older models, but they all printed. But that is HP, other brands are probably harder to work into it.
Other than reading storage, the cameras have no support. That is a bummer, especially since tethering a pro dslr would be awesome.
My Brother network printer worked perfectly but my Kodak didn't. I did have to select the driver manually in both cases
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So, may be there is possible way to resolve actual problem with poorest set of peripheral drivers (printers & scanners firstly) in win RT. The solution is to create some kind of the universal driver for all (most part of) printers with the simplest interface, containing minimal number of options. The main goal of those "unversal driver" is to make/force printer to print. The same way with scanners. If I'm not mistaken, such kind of work with peripheral is realized in some *unix-like OS.
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So, may be there is possible way to resolve actual problem with poorest set of peripheral drivers (printers & scanners firstly) in win RT. The solution is to create some kind of the universal driver for all (most part of) printers with the simplest interface, containing minimal number of options. The main goal of those "unversal driver" is to make/force printer to print. The same way with scanners. If I'm not mistaken, such kind of work with peripheral is realized in some *unix-like OS.
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This is what windows RT does already. Tries to apply a set of unified drivers to multiple devices. doesnt really work as there is no set USB protocol for printers, nor a network one. Scanners are even worse.
If you go in device manager you will find most mice and keyboards appear as a USB HID device of some sort. This is because in this case a set standard was created for how mice and keyboards (and a few other devices too) should appear to an operating system. One USB HID Keyboard driver should work for all keyboards using the USB HID Keyboard protocol, basically, all of them Certain additional functions like variable dpi on mice and extra buttons might not work with that basic driver but the keyboard/mouse itself will still function as a basic keyboard/mouse, just none of the fancy features.
Printers dont do that. HP have a protocol they use. Epson have their own protocol. Lexmark have one. A lexmark driver wont work on an HP unit. Hell, the drivers for models with different features dont always work on another similar but not identical model from the same manufacturer. This means a driver is needed for each device. Windows RT makes a damn good attempt at covering many bases but there are too many printers out there for microsoft to make that many drivers, gets even worse when you consider microsoft are working on drivers for hardware not manufactured by them although I guess they get help from the OEM.
There are standard interfaces for keyboards, mice and removable media. There aren't any for printers, scanners, wifi adaptors or 3g modems etc.
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Printers dont do that. HP have a protocol they use. Epson have their own protocol. Lexmark have one. A lexmark driver wont work on an HP unit. Hell, the drivers for models with different features dont always work on another similar but not identical model from the same manufacturer. This means a driver is needed for each device. Windows RT makes a damn good attempt at covering many bases but there are too many printers out there for microsoft to make that many drivers, gets even worse when you consider microsoft are working on drivers for hardware not manufactured by them although I guess they get help from the OEM.
There are standard interfaces for keyboards, mice and removable media. There aren't any for printers, scanners, wifi adaptors or 3g modems etc.
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There actually ARE standards for printers, like PS and PCL6. The problem is that for many of the cheaper printers, the manufacturers don't bother implementing them.
Also, Microsoft has implemented new class drivers for cellular modems, but the problem is that the older devices don't really support those.
May well be that microsoft are just supporting those 2 protocols then and hoping that the users printer complies with it.
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May well be that microsoft are just supporting those 2 protocols then and hoping that the users printer complies with it.
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They didn't only use those, but they did rebuilt the print model. They then tried to cover a broad swath while at the same time knowing that they wouldn't cover all of them, at least partly because including a driver for every single printer ever would take a lot of work and a lot of storage space. They expected to cover 70-80% of the installed base of printers (whereas apparently Windows 7 only covered 60-65% out of the box), while cutting down storage by over half:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/07/25/simplifying-printing-in-windows-8.aspx
I know it's not really an answer for those with existing printers that don't work, but it is complicated to cover everything when manufacturers all have their own proprietary stuff (and often, multiple proprietary protocols, not just a single one for all their devices).
I have a Tab 3 (8.0) with android 4.2.2. Can I connect via OTG cable my Nikon D200 camera to the tablet so I can view a picture shortly after exposure. I tried just making the connection and the tablet does not "see" the camera's CF card as an additional storage or hard drive. By the way, this procedure does work on my computer using Windows Explorer. I read somewhere that android 4.3 update will allow this should it ever become available. Any ideas on how I might be able to accomplish this? Thank you all.
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I have a Tab 3 (8.0) with android 4.2.2. Can I connect via OTG cable my Nikon D200 camera to the tablet so I can view a picture shortly after exposure. I tried just making the connection and the tablet does not "see" the camera's CF card as an additional storage or hard drive. By the way, this procedure does work on my computer using Windows Explorer. I read somewhere that android 4.3 update will allow this should it ever become available. Any ideas on how I might be able to accomplish this? Thank you all.
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IF you can set your camera to a mode that it looks like a storage device for your computer, then it should work fine as a storage device ONLY with the tablet and OTG. IF it needs a special driver to work on the PC, then then Android will not recognize it.
Connect DSLR camera to Tab3 8.0
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IF you can set your camera to a mode that it looks like a storage device for your computer, then it should work fine as a storage device ONLY with the tablet and OTG. IF it needs a special driver to work on the PC, then then Android will not recognize it.
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Thank you, DigitalMD,
I will have to check into that. I know when I first connected the camera to the PC it did load a driver of some description but I don't know what. Until Samsung decides to grace us all with 4.3.2, perhaps I would be better off using my 7" net book instead of the tablet. Too bad but thank you again for your rapid and helpful response.
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Thank you, DigitalMD,
I will have to check into that. I know when I first connected the camera to the PC it did load a driver of some description but I don't know what. Until Samsung decides to grace us all with 4.3.2, perhaps I would be better off using my 7" net book instead of the tablet. Too bad but thank you again for your rapid and helpful response.
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Are you trying to achieve control or just file transfer? If you are trying to control the camera during shooting or view when in shooting mode you will need an app for Nikon control. When you connect a new device to a windows PC, it will search an online database of drivers and download a new driver if needed. Android does not work like that, for OTG there is a very limited set of devices it can recognize mainly , storage, mouse, keyboard
You might try DSLR.Dashboard or similar apps.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dslr.dashboard
https://code.google.com/p/dslrdashboard/