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[SOURCE | MINNOW] Kitkat Kernel Source for Moto 360

Hey folks,
as everyone knows, due to the GPL every company who creates android images is forced to release the kernel source!
I started digging around in the internet and found the sources at Googles git server.
The kernel is based on top of linux kernel version 3.10.x, so here we go:
https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/omap/+/android-omap-minnow-3.10-kitkat-wear
After i found and ordered a nice usb connector for my Moto 360 which i got last thursday,
i will start creating custom kernels and port over a modded version of cm
(which may takes a while as i have to create a few interface layouts first! ofcourse whishes and ideas are welcome).
Best regards,
OldDroid

Good luck man!

Oh fun. Huh turns out they lowered the standard fps to 45, and in ambient mode its capped down to 30. For battery I guess.
Thanks OMAPa!

Metallice said:
Oh fun. Huh turns out they lowered the standard fps to 45, and in ambient mode its capped down to 30. For battery I guess.
Thanks OMAPa!
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Hm, why would you need 30fps in the dimmed mode (No seconds had there anyway)?
Or are we talking about the normal screen on state with ambient enabled?
Would lowering this further enhance the battery effiency significantly?

Diamondback said:
Hm, why would you need 30fps in the dimmed mode (No seconds had there anyway)?
Or are we talking about the normal screen on state with ambient enabled?
Would lowering this further enhance the battery effiency significantly?
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I think he means the normal screen rate is 30fps with ambient enabled...
I wouldn't mind upping the rate to 60fps because the watch last me a full day with plenty battery left over ... This way we can at least have a smoother experience
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thesparky007 said:
I think he means the normal screen rate is 30fps with ambient enabled...
I wouldn't mind upping the rate to 60fps because the watch last me a full day with plenty battery left over ... This way we can at least have a smoother experience
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Yep the panel can definitely do 60fps. According to the source that was what it was originally set to. Wouldn't be too tricky to revert the relevant changes.
Edit: there actually is a time when the panel runs at 60fps... On the charger :/

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Yep the panel can definitely do 60fps. According to the source that was what it was originally set to. Wouldn't be too tricky to revert the relevant changes.
Edit: there actually is a time when the panel runs at 60fps... On the charger :/
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Haha, yea that totally makes sense :victory: Did you spot yet which cpu governor we are running on by default?

Userspace. Its probably set in the ramdisk on boot like all the other nexuses. Based on older commits it is probably interactive but you'd have to look at the init files to be sure.

There are a lot of interesting things to tweak here not just frame rate. Gestures and sensitivity, frequencies/scaling/voltages, screen/misc timeouts, lots and lots of stuff can be tweaked with ambient mode - the timeouts, the max brightness for the ULP display state, and so on. Looks like we could even go revert back to "normal" ambient mode for those that want it.

there can be made various battery related changes
maybe i gonna try to implement blx (battery life extender) at the weekend, but we will see
i think some governor tweaks can be done aswell ... (don't know if touch boost interface has been implemented by motorola, will check later)

OldDroid said:
there can be made various battery related changes
maybe i gonna try to implement blx (battery life extender) at the weekend, but we will see
i think some governor tweaks can be done aswell ... (don't know if touch boost interface has been implemented by motorola, will check later)
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If you are referring to caf CPU boost then no it is not in this kernel.

MikeC84 said:
If you are referring to caf CPU boost then no it is not in this kernel.
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thx for looking it up!

Diamondback said:
Haha, yea that totally makes sense :victory: Did you spot yet which cpu governor we are running on by default?
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yep, it's interactive:
Code:
cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
it's set in init.minnow.rc

Sweet thanks for the link. As for features, can't think of much that isn't already handled via setting proc settings (screen off on charge etc), perhaps add an App that can make these configurable via a GUI?
This probably needs messing around with /system, but my biggest annoyance is probably the fact that cards always cover up my analog faces unless I mute, which still adds the mute logo so not the best solution.

What USB connector did you order?
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blacklistedcard said:
What USB connector did you order?
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I am curious, too, as I do not want to make my own, but want to BL unlock and root.

r3pwn said:
I am curious, too, as I do not want to make my own, but want to BL unlock and root.
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Me too.. Coz I want to participate with this project without messing with home made cables. Mind to share it?
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I want to build a custom kernel for this guy. There are a lot of cool things I could do with CPU scaling, voltages, and ambient mode settings.
Unfortunately I reeeaally don't want to try to hack together my own cable. Hopefully someone will sell one but it seems unlikely.

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I want to build a custom kernel for this guy. There are a lot of cool things I could do with CPU scaling, voltages, and ambient mode settings.
Unfortunately I reeeaally don't want to try to hack together my own cable. Hopefully someone will sell one but it seems unlikely.
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Yeah, newer toolchain and some optimizations would really help that old processing in the Moto 360. I just wish we did not have you use a custom cable.

Will it ever be possible root over adb? Or through the NFC charger plugged into a PC?
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mass heating issue

Currently i m on aex 5.3 oreo
After 5 days use , everything is running smooth but the biggest issue is heating , u all can sea that how much my phone got heat up , during downloading, charging ,gaming everytime my phnone got heat up plzzzz
Give me any solution of this or suggest any other rom so i can switch to it

vickyfule said:
Currently i m on aex 5.3 oreo
After 5 days use , everything is running smooth but the biggest issue is heating , u all can sea that how much my phone got heat up , during downloading, charging ,gaming everytime my phnone got heat up plzzzz
Give me any solution of this or suggest any other rom so i can switch to it
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Reported by other users too on v5.3 . Dev will fix that soon and roll out another update . Or you can wait for ar beast kernel to release with treble support.

Rikul said:
Reported by other users too on v5.3 . Dev will fix that soon and roll out another update . Or you can wait for ar beast kernel to release with treble support.
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How many more days developer need ???

vickyfule said:
How many more days developer need ???
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Download helix engine for now. It'll tweak the governor forcing cores to stay at lower megs. And enable thermal throttling or vdd restriction from KA.
New kernel update is expected soon.

Rikul said:
Download helix engine for now. It'll tweak the governor forcing cores to stay at lower megs. And enable thermal throttling or vdd restriction from KA.
New kernel update is expected soon.
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Where i can get this helix

Any tips on how to make my phone run Fortnite better?

It runs like **** right now, the rendering resolution is set to 50% and stable 30 FPS is rarity.

our device is equiped with a decent enough cpu but the gpu sucks so dont get your hopes high ... did you try to reduce the resolution in the game launcher ?

david.duchowny said:
It runs like **** right now, the rendering resolution is set to 50% and stable 30 FPS is rarity.
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Maybe it help...
Simple part :
First you can install magisk module like FDE.AI or NFS Injector or LKT (very good this one)
Medium :
Then You can try to overclock cpu and gpu with "kernel audiutor" for exemple. (GPU set to 745, governor on demand)
Hard Way :
Finally You can try to configure the app with "GLTools" (then disable MSAA, lower résolution...)
Good luck.

alaa96 said:
our device is equiped with a decent enough cpu but the gpu sucks so dont get your hopes high ... did you try to reduce the resolution in the game launcher ?
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1. I've heard that A70 has problems with throttling too
2. In game launcher? I didn't see a single option regarding resultion in game launcher. Only in game itself and I lowered it to as much as I could.

david.duchowny said:
It runs like **** right now, the rendering resolution is set to 50% and stable 30 FPS is rarity.
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david.duchowny said:
1. I've heard that A70 has problems with throttling too
2. In game launcher? I didn't see a single option regarding resultion in game launcher. Only in game itself and I lowered it to as much as I could.
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Try this if this will help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80510279&postcount=24

david.duchowny said:
1. I've heard that A70 has problems with throttling too
2. In game launcher? I didn't see a single option regarding resultion in game launcher. Only in game itself and I lowered it to as much as I could.
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i dont know about the throttling problem though during gaming my phone barely even gets hot ! compared to my s8 which has a beast of a gpu if you put it against the gpu in the a70 my s8 would get super hot during gaming

alaa96 said:
i dont know about the throttling problem though during gaming my phone barely even gets hot ! compared to my s8 which has a beast of a gpu if you put it against the gpu in the a70 my s8 would get super hot during gaming
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Where did you find these options? Is this one of those pre installed "game" apps ?

david.duchowny said:
Where did you find these options? Is this one of those pre installed "game" apps ?
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ckeck this video
https://youtu.be/K2QvlsuJTH4
sorry for the trashy quality i dont know why it turned out like this

Question Miui "enhanced edition" discussion

has anyone tried it yet ? its already out for china rom 12.5.5
how's the battery life? any noticeable change in performance/ overall smoothness?
waiting for mmx personally

its smoother than the previous versions of miui, if someone like miui i can highly recommend it, battery like before

r3sp said:
its smoother than the previous versions of miui, if someone like miui i can highly recommend it, battery like before
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I'm curious..i'm user mi10t pro..and my firmware on 12.5.5..my question is..can i still get miui enhanced edition??

Eximous69 said:
I'm curious..i'm user mi10t pro..and my firmware on 12.5.5..my question is..can i still get miui enhanced edition??
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Check Xiaomi updater website if there is a newer version to be installed...
Idk , for me personally I'm only in for the performance mode toggle - if you can see it inside battery settings of security center just enable it and you should be good.

Rstment ^m^ said:
Check Xiaomi updater website if there is a newer version to be installed...
Idk , for me personally I'm only in for the performance mode toggle - if you can see it inside battery settings of security center just enable it and you should be good.
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Is performance mode locking screen to 120hz like that battery clear data trick?

bla33 said:
Is performance mode locking screen to 120hz like that battery clear data trick?
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Nope , miui is still trash because of that ...
There's literally no fix for that , I'm thinking of modifying the app that's in charge of handling that to remove all the locks on certain apps but I've still no idea how to remove drop to 60hz after not touching screen... If you remove the app you lose fast charging and usability of basically everything on the phone

Rstment ^m^ said:
Nope , miui is still trash because of that ...
There's literally no fix for that , I'm thinking of modifying the app that's in charge of handling that to remove all the locks on certain apps but I've still no idea how to remove drop to 60hz after not touching screen... If you remove the app you lose fast charging and usability of basically everything on the phone
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yeah . that sucks. drops really kill smoothness of the phone. Im using it in 120hz all the time but dont know how long will that clear data thing work. i got used to 120hz+ displays over the years so i can really feel that stutter .
if i loose 1hr sot over it i dont realy care

How to force this update? Change region?

This "enhanced edition" is just a bunch of lies, there's nothing new, the performance is exactly the same, no new features are added, this just generates a "placebo effect" in those who really believes that this really changes anything.
There are plenty of videos on youtube that demostrates this, and I also experienced this by myself.

In 12.5.4/12.5.5, if you had green tint, go to brightness settings and disable the smoothen transitions option. It's enabled by default and fixes the tint issue (for me).
Make sure you change the brightness once.

It's hard to see when u don't wanna see

How To Guide Force 120Hz Guide (S22)

[Tested. Works as of One UI 4.1 September, 2022 Patch AVHH Build]
Hello again! A handful of you may have seen my S21 guide for forcing 120Hz through pretty much every app and while the camera is active (looking at you, Snapchat!!). The previous guide doesn't apply to the S22 series because Samsung changed the range of valid refresh rate values all the way down to 1Hz.. WELL I still managed to break it... 0.1Hz as a value apparently works.
A kind user made a video based on my guide: Linked;
I also want to say that the August update seems to have broken something for some users, but I've re-applied this on said update and it still works fine on my end.
This is also for allowing 120Hz when the camera is active; not so much forcing 120Hz (some users got confused because of my poor choice of wording).
Before you start, make sure your refresh rate is set to Adaptive.
1. Download SetEdit from the google play store.
2. Open up to the system table.
3. At the very top, you'll see an option to add a new setting. Go ahead and tap.
4. enter this: min_refresh_rate
5. Save changes. For the second value, enter: 0.1
6. Do this again but instead start with: peak_refresh_rate
7. Save changes
8. enter again, : 0.1
9. Save changes.
That's it! You'll still benefit from adaptive refresh rates when the screen is still and most apps will run in 120Hz regardless of their manifest. Enjoy a smooth Snapchat and everything else!
No.. Google Maps still runs at 60Hz; but rightfully so! It uses a lot of battery as-is.
If you want to undo this, carefully delete the lines we added and reboot the phone.
Screenshot 1: Snapchat 120Hz
Screenshot 2: Native Camera 120Hz

Thanks bossman. On it.

Will this force games like COD Mobile to run in 120pfs?

Kris_b1104 said:
Will this force games like COD Mobile to run in 120pfs?
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It won't 'force' games to run any higher than they are programmed to. It just allows the screen to go up to 120Hz in most applications that normally wouldn't.

MochaVex said:
It won't 'force' games to run any higher than they are programmed to. It just allows the screen to go up to 120Hz in most applications that normally wouldn't.
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Thanks, makes sense.

What FPS counter app do you use?

Thank you for this! Does this tweak have an impact on battery life?

Kris_b1104 said:
Will this force games like COD Mobile to run in 120pfs?
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if you want play COD with 120hz just use [App]Galaxy Max Hz ,
i play on mine s22 with very high graphic quality and force 120hz with this app

herothezero90 said:
Thank you for this! Does this tweak have an impact on battery life?
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Nothing too noticeable in my experience between stock and forced.

skura91 said:
if you want play COD with 120hz just use [App]Galaxy Max Hz ,
i play on mine s22 with very high graphic quality and force 120hz with this app
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That's still not 120FPS though, alls it is doing os putting out 120Hz.

Thank you for good article.
Is there any way to fix 90 or 96Hz not 120Hz?

Doesn't work anymore on August update

leonbarroso said:
Doesn't work anymore on August update
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For my Tab 8, on newest firmware I had to change the min_refresh_rate value to 120. Leaving the peak_refresh_rate at 0.1 Instantly locked to 120.

Actually tested this on my s22+ and the result was me having "grey" screen instead of black in 24hz, just deleted the "peak" and "min" values and restarted and was solved! If anyone getting this, that is the solution.

does it work on s22 ultra in agust 2022 update?

safereg said:
does it work on s22 ultra in agust 2022 update?
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Re-applied just now and it seems to without any issues.

Any way to use system table or other means to allow adaptive refresh when battery saver is enabled? Even if peak is still 60 fps with battery saver on, seems like it would still improve battery life to have it drop down to 24 or whatever it normally does when there is no motion, though I may be completely wrong.

Why can't Samsung give what we want in the first place? Why don't we have the freedom of choosing what refresh rate our phones runs on, like for ffs

pschoolmeester said:
Any way to use system table or other means to allow adaptive refresh when battery saver is enabled? Even if peak is still 60 fps with battery saver on, seems like it would still improve battery life to have it drop down to 24 or whatever it normally does when there is no motion, though I may be completely wrong.
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Not that I could find.. They fixed system table modifications for what you're asking for with One UI 4.0's release. Galaxy Max Hz App *might* be able to accomplish this but I'm not entirely sure.

AmmarHaseeb said:
Why can't Samsung give what we want in the first place? Why don't we have the freedom of choosing what refresh rate our phones runs on, like for ffs
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The Beta Moderator's reasoning was that the phone's hardware couldn't handle the screen running up to 120Hz in every single activity.. part of that is proven incorrect and the rest I can't vouch for because no matter what I do some apps just refuse to go higher than 60Hz.