it will be illegal to root/jailbreak a phone or unlock it - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III

Just read this below. Soon it will be illegal to root/jailbreak a phone or unlock it. Hope this isn't true.
While the oft-criticized Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) makes it illegal to bypass DRM, when the law was based back in 1998 a provision allowed the Librarian of Congress to grant certain exemptions. As Ars Technica notes, the latest triennial review of DMCA exemptions (pdf) again highlights how arbitrary and bizarre the DMCA can be. Under the latest exemptions, you're allowed to legally jailbreak your smartphone, but you're not allowed to jailbreak your tablet -- and overall, jailbreaking is something that the DMCA will be making illegal for phone bought in 2013 forward:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/D...in-2013-121800

Let's plan some DDoS now.
Who want to join me?
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I interpret that as applying to flashing your phone to work on another carrier's network, not obtaining root, or admin, rights on a Linux-based software platform.
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Rooting/flashing ROMs will not be illegal. Just unlocking phones so they can be moved to other carriers w/out current carrier's permission.

Hasnt Apple and Google already been found to not be able to do anything if we do so or not?
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When they say that jailbreaking tablets will be illegal, does that mean rooting, or unlocking to go to a different carrier?

EPayne123 said:
Hasnt Apple and Google already been found to not be able to do anything if we do so or not?
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Yes apple attempted through supreme court and didn't work. No worries.
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GTOJim said:
Just read this below. Soon it will be illegal to root/jailbreak a phone or unlock it. Hope this isn't true.
While the oft-criticized Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) makes it illegal to bypass DRM, when the law was based back in 1998 a provision allowed the Librarian of Congress to grant certain exemptions. As Ars Technica notes, the latest triennial review of DMCA exemptions (pdf) again highlights how arbitrary and bizarre the DMCA can be. Under the latest exemptions, you're allowed to legally jailbreak your smartphone, but you're not allowed to jailbreak your tablet -- and overall, jailbreaking is something that the DMCA will be making illegal for phone bought in 2013 forward:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/D...in-2013-121800
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US Supreme Court ruled that rooting was legal. I think it was a year/two ago.

They've been barking up this tree for a while now and we've always been granted the exception. I don't see this changing, especially not in 2013.
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That article did not pertain to rooting in anyway shape or form. It was solely about flashing your phone to a carrier other than which it was purchased on.
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Khilbron said:
That article did not pertain to rooting in anyway shape or form. It was solely about flashing your phone to a carrier other than which it was purchased on.
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Then the OP is a dummiot.

csmasn said:
Let's plan some DDoS now.
Who want to join me?
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Root away that'll be the day I'm told I can't do what I want with "MY" phone
They can change that law as soon as they supply my upgrade
Though yeah the op says nothing about root
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Seems rooting/jailbreaking smartphones is ok, not ok for tablets. See below. Thought it's interesting that the user doesn't own the software on the device which can make it illegal in certain cases such as tablets.
Jailbreaking/rooting. Starting January 2013, you can legally jailbreak or root your smartphone, which may include the iPhone or any Android phone. This was the same case as in the 2010 rules. However, this time, the ruling is explicit that the jailbreaking is only legal for “the sole purpose of enabling interoperability of [lawfully obtained] applications with computer programs on the telephone handset.”
Meanwhile, tablets are a different thing altogether. The Librarian of Congress says that “the record lacked a sufficient basis to develop an appropriate definition for the ‘tablet’ category of devices, a necessary predicate to extending the exemption beyond smartphones.” The worry here is that other tablet-like devices may be defined as a tablet, and therefore enjoy the same DRM circumventions. These may include laptops, e-book readers, and even handheld videogame devices.
In short: you can legally root your smartphone but not your tablet.
Users can only arbitrarily unlock phones purchased before January 2013. Phones bought after that date will require the original carrier’s permission before you can legally unlock these.
This change in ruling came from the Librarian’s view that software is not actually owned by the user upon purchase, but you are only granted rights and licenses under the EULA. As such, unlocking a phone (which is essentially software in nature) without the consent of the original carrier is no longer in fair use.
In short: starting 2013, you need to ask explicit permission from your carrier before legally unlocking your phone.
http://www.androidauthority.com/new...gal-starting-2013-but-not-for-tablets-126377/

seems they extended till 2015
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/27/copyright_office_dcma_exemptions/
US Copyright Office approves phone jailbreaking and video remixes
Tablets and consoles still locked down
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The US Copyright Office has published the latest exceptions to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and it's good news for phone jailbreakers and video remixers, who are now legal – well, until 2015, at least.
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Even if it's true, it's not said and done. There whole phone thing hit the supreme court. They ruled in our favour once
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We should start a petition to keep these ****s out of our personal devices that we buy.
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Should be all the way around....we r intelligent enough to do this for how long now! Shouldnt matter device! Or Carrier! Developers all the way to Noobs and all! United We Stand!
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budde2 said:
We should start a petition to keep these ****s out of our personal devices that we buy.
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well technically we are leeching off of them...

Jbluna said:
well technically we are leeching off of them...
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No we are not, Android is partof the open handset alliance it is also Linux. Which is free open source and belongs to no one. As long as that's the case Google, Samsung, LG to the contrary leaches Samsung is the only major Linux contributor making handsets
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Galaxy nexus violates Apple's slide to unlock patent

http://www.esato.com/news/samsung-galaxy-nexus-violates-apples-slide-to-unlock-patent-2210
Not related to our phone but its basically relevant to all android phones. Its a little ridiculous
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You should change the title to "Apple claims Galaxy Nexus..."
Just a thought
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i think this now holds the crown of most ridiculous accusation by apple...i didnt think it could get more incredulous, but...surely this is the top, right? RIGHT?
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eao1991 said:
You should change the title to "Apple claims Galaxy Nexus..."
Just a thought
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lmfaoo
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squshy 7 said:
i think this now holds the crown of most ridiculous accusation by apple...i didnt think it could get more incredulous, but...surely this is the top, right? RIGHT?
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Apple always finds a way to top its own claims. I'm sure we will see another one soon
Genius...
Certainly, Apple has the best marketing strategy in the world. Step 1) Patent something that has already been used and claim it for yourself (even though you are 2 years behind the curve). Step 2) Your millions of minion-minded customers will think they are the first to have such product, and will claim it to be the BEST EVERRRRRR! Of course, they will be correct because Apple said so!
Yawn..........
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good one, bro!
next thing you know, they will claim that the power button and the volume buttons are their copyright...
this **** is just too much already...
Hmm I think apple is going against manufactures and not google to try and discourage them from making Android phones so win or lose it's costing Samsung thousands of dollars but then again if I were apple I'd be scared to attack Samsung with 25% of the iPhone 4 made from Samsung aren't they worried they'll just cut them off?
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islanda73 said:
Hmm I think apple is going against manufactures and not google to try and discourage them from making Android phones so win or lose it's costing Samsung thousands of dollars but then again if I were apple I'd be scared to attack Samsung with 25% of the iPhone 4 made from Samsung aren't they worried they'll just cut them off?
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Companies as large as Samsung (and they are a GIGANTIC company. They are huge in nearly every industry they are in, which is most.) have different divisions. Whatever the smartphone division is called likely has little to do with the component manufacturing division. Even if the smartphone division demanded the component manufacturing division to cut off Apple completely they would get nothing more than a simple "No" and likely some laughing...and even if that division did want to cut Apple off they are contractually bound. Not to mention it would just be bad business to cut off sales to one of the planets most prolific electronic component customers.
A few years back one division of Sony sued another division of Sony...I think it was a (surprise surprise) Copyright issue.
Yeah, I think that most people don't realize just how gigantic and diverse of a company that Samsung really is...
"Samsung Electronics said Friday that it topped 160 trillion won (138 billion U.S. dollars) in annual sales for the first time in 2011. For the second straight year, the company topped 15 trillion won (12.9 billion dollars) in operating profit on the back of more than 150 trillion won (129 billion dollars) in sales."
All of these lawsuits are ridiculous.. But I don't think the one listed in the OP is the most laughable..
Samsung recently lost a case where they claimed the absolute right to 3G against Apple...
The only people who come out ahead on all these frivolous lawsuits are the lawyers who are getting paid..
http://phandroid.com/2012/01/20/samsung-loses-3g-technology-patent-claim-against-apple-in-germany/
Some of the claims made by Apple are bad yes but what's even worse is when some of the courts agree with them.
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Some of the claims made by Apple are bad yes but what's even worse is when some of the courts agree with them.
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Money talks, bull**** walks.
raqball said:
All of these lawsuits are ridiculous.. But I don't think the one listed in the OP is the most laughable..
Samsung recently lost a case where they claimed the absolute right to 3G against Apple...
The only people who come out ahead on all these frivolous lawsuits are the lawyers who are getting paid..
http://phandroid.com/2012/01/20/samsung-loses-3g-technology-patent-claim-against-apple-in-germany/
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It wasn't 3g it was the way the iPhones dual antennas worked or whatever.
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Just like the mafia's supposed "protection" fees, it won't be long until we see the Apple Tax, that each and every one of us will be having to pay for their idea of "protection" fees.
Lol another example of Apple's desperation to stop Samsung's amazing Android phones from taking over .
Inb4 Apple sues Samsung for creating a Home button...
Apple will try to keep its feet up as high as they can. They know they're going to fail soon lmao
Yea apple is inevitably going to need a radical change to keep up with the times, or they'll end up fading like RIM (blackberry). Lawsuits wont save the company, they are on borrowed time and they know it.
I just want to kick apple square in there apple's
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[Q] Google to track your every move! COMING SOON!

Google to start tracking your every move...what do you think about this?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin.../24/gIQArgJHOQ_story.html?wpisrc=al_comboNE_b
Wow... What is this world coming to..
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I think that's a crock a crap. Users should always have the option to opt-in or out when privacy is concerned.
Suck ballz!!!
Looks to me like Google is trying very hard to earn more money by knowing us better and focusing ads.
Can't blame them for trying. Their earnings weren't good enough, while Apple's beat expectations. Looks like the competition is pushing Google to try anything that could help them make an extra dollar.
What i don't like is not having an option to opt out of it.
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Hmmm. That article reads like someone spreading FUD to me... must inspect further.
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Who cares. Not like I have anything to hide. Their not selling the info soooo what's the big deal?
Total BS! One, everybody should be given the option to opt out just out of respect. Second, thus is just the type of ammunition the government needs to bring PIPA back to the table and you know SOPA will follow. So I say BS!!!!! Respect our privacy and give us an option!! Google and other companies are getting to big for their britches. What started out as a great company is now becoming an evil corporation and they don't even realize it.
Rant Over
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As long as Google isn't selling the data, I don't really care. I block ads on every device I use so they are wasting their time and money on me.
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This is worse than SOPA....
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xAnimal5 said:
This is worse than SOPA....
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let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Of course there's a way to opt out: Sign out of the site if you're so concerned.
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It will come sooner or later, brace yourselves
Google----part of the new world order. Everything they come up with that has to do with privacy is justified by them for your own good, but this is all part of theplan. You have heard Bush Sr. promise this, Bush Jr., Clinton, Obama. We are moving there because it is designed to be that way so might as well fight it or get on the bus, your choice at least for now. Oh by the way, facebook is part of it too. The whole idea is to build a profile on everyone so when it is time for microchip, they have your information for the chip. Anything else they say is hoccus poccus. This is strategically planned. Who can tell you, I will know everything about you and you can't stop me, does that seem like freedom of choice? Think really deep about this one.
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Google... new world order.... all part of theplan. ... ... so when it is time for microchip, they have your information for the chip. ... hoccus poccus... strategically planned.... does that seem like freedom of choice? Think really deep about this one...
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(another perspective? )
Bing.com or block google cookies on all your devices, or just accept you are using great products for free and will only get more relevant ads. If you are concerned about privacy, recognize your ISP can already tell the government everything you do online.
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Bing.com or block google cookies on all your devices, or just accept you are using great products for free and will only get more relevant ads. If you are concerned about piracy, recognize your ISP can already tell the government everything you do online.
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agreed! nothing is private if you are a target to the government.
and let's not all forget about sprint.. the #1 us carrier to comply with the feds. of course.. nothing to worry about if you arent doing anything wrong. and for those of you doing wrong things... do it better and you will never have to worry.
google supplies us with tons of free ****.. they wanna use my data to make money? already expected. you mean theyre going to take the info theyre already collecting from each google-owned site and tie it together more? already expected.
must be a slow news day...
Google....it's turning into Cyberdine from The Terminator LOL!
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let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Of course there's a way to opt out: Sign out of the site if you're so concerned.
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You can't opt out on phones....
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**I sit bad and laugh**
People are always jumping to conclusions and always forgetting the thing that matters most. DEVS!!!! If this is true then you know that one dev on one phone will come up with a block and all will be well!!! And that block will be adapted to all other phones. So sit just back and relax, because your in good hands with DEV's!!
Like they say, nothing is free.
The question is would you opt in to pay $100 annually to use their "free" services?
Anything on the web that is "free" generates income one way or another.
Carrier IQ, Facebook, Google, Windows, Browsers, ISP, GPS, Apps, Phones, Wifi etc... All Access you and your targeted mostly ADs specific to you.
And to be honest, I rather see a relevant AD than some viagra bs. What did bother me at one point few months ago is when I was signed off facebook and browsing the web, there was a tech article and when I went to comment it already had my facebook information ready to comment as.
IMO, the world has changed and humanity no longer lives apart in different regions or countries, we the human race live on Planet Earth. The sooner we realize that and appreciate our ecosystem, the better off we'll be.
Btw, this whole thing is feeling like the movie "demolition man".
2012 The Year of Prophecies
Um.... This was the plan from the start. Why did you think Google went through the trouble of providing an OS with all this integration in the first place. Does anyone know how they generate their revenue? I don't care since I don't have anything to hide, and this is what I need to pay to have all these things available for me to use. I can see how some might be upset that the man is in their business, but thats the price you pay to pimp the little green robot.

US judge grants injunction on Galaxy Nexus

US judge grants injunction on Galaxy Nexus
Those on the fence better get their GNex now before it's too late
"Apple first asked for an injunction on US sales of Samsung's Galaxy Nexus devices back in February, and the court has now ruled, granting the motion and imposing a ban. "
Smh...
Apple, Apple, Apple... When will you learn.
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And it timed so well with 4.1 release. This is not how you take down android. Android is a machine,a movement. apple is a fruit. Just shows how desperate they are. Probably paid the judge.
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Anyways, to quote the article for the patents Apple is claiming have been infringed:
Apple's motion alleged that the Nexus devices infringed four of its patents: US Patent Nos. 5,946,647 (actionable linking), 8,086,604 (multi-source searching), 8,046,721 (slide-to-unlock) and 8,074,172 (touch screen word suggestion).
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US Patent No. 5,946,647 - this patent was filed in 1996 (issued 1999) and covers detecting data, such as a phone number, in an email or web page, creating a link to that data, and initiating an action like calling the phone number when the user selects the link. The data could also include addresses, dates, etc.
US Patent No. 8,086,604 - this patent claims priority back to 2000 (issued Dec. 2011) and covers searching multiple sources of information (on device and elsewhere) through a single search interface, such as Siri. Apple specifically touts Siri in its injunction request, but also argues that a unified text search is covered by the patent as well.
US Patent No. 8,046,721 - this patent claims priority back to 2005 (issued Oct. 2011) and covers Apple's signature slide-to-unlock feature. While Apple already has patent coverage on an image unlock feature, this newest patent is obviously intended to be a bit broader — likely addressing potential workarounds implemented by Google and OEMs over the last couple of years.
US Patent No. 8,074,172 - this patent was filed in 2007 (issued Dec. 2011) and covers providing word suggestions while the user types on a touchscreen keyboard, where the suggestions can be accepted or rejected by the user.
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Essentially, some of these patents are the very same patents Apple has been attacking other Android OEMs, such as HTC, for. They're going after basic Android functions, but rather than going for Google directly, they're attacking OEMs. This is the closest they've come to attacking Google directly for these particular patents, AFAIK. If you ask me, some of them are rather inane, such as slide-to-unlock and text suggestions.
http://www.google.com/patents/US20090249247
Poking a sleeping dragon, they are.
Didn't they file the same injunction to stop the Galaxy S III from being sold?
Irritating...
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adrynalyne said:
http://www.google.com/patents/US20090249247
Poking a sleeping dragon, they are.
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That patent hasn't been granted yet, and is FAR more specific to Android's implementation than Apple's very vague, rather inclusive patents that have been granted. Which is highly unfortunate.
I love how Apple is getting judges to grant injunctions based on their actionable links patent when theirs is so limiting. At least with Android those links can let the user decide which app is used to open that object.
this makes me so fing mad. i want to smash something. F U APPLE!!!!!!!
Apple, Apple, Apple, when will you learn? I am certain Androids eat apples for breakfast, so come at us.
Reading this article almost made me smash my entire laptop and desk in rage. Apple is do damn power hungry.
The Nexus looks nothing like the iPhone, I don't get why they chose the GNex.
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adrynalyne said:
http://www.google.com/patents/US20090249247
Poking a sleeping dragon, they are.
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Reading that gave me a headache :silly:
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I Am Marino said:
The Nexus looks nothing like the iPhone, I don't get why they chose the GNex.
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Jellybean is gonna kill iOS, that is all. Funny this happens weeks before the update is pushed.
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The Nexus looks nothing like the iPhone, I don't get why they chose the GNex.
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Its not looks they went after. It is specific features/actions like swiping to unlock.
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No point in getting mad. Apple is just showing their desperation. It will get over turned, just like the Evo and One X. The way Google is partnering with everyone else against apple...it is only a matter of time before they strike.
Oh yea..and I'm definitely not mad! They can't come take my Nexus away!
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Its not looks they went after. It is specific features/actions like swiping to unlock.
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Luckily Google no longer has the swipe to unlock feature (they have to move the circle into the other circle feature). I doubt the judge agreed that that particular patent was infringing on the Nexus ICS device even though Apple hoped it was. It sounds like the judge used the universal search patent and the actionable links patent to make this injunction.
I feel like the judges are all apple biased
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Luckily Google no longer has the swipe to unlock feature (they have to move the circle into the other circle feature). I doubt the judge agreed that that particular patent was infringing on the Nexus ICS device even though Apple hoped it was. It sounds like the judge used the universal search patent and the actionable links patent to make this injunction.
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Looks like it is an issue that has to deal with a search feature that apple claims is a direct siri patent infringement
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I don't understand injunctions, how can you ban a product based on software that isn't even the same and also before it been proven to infringe on it. It seems to me like the judge is basically deciding outcomes before a trial.
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Very depressing. I guess a tenth of a trillion dollars in Apple's bank accounts isn't enough for them. Software patents are so broken.
Considering the actionable linking patent is essentially describing hypertext behaviour, I'm surprised that's not FRAND or equivalent by now.

Apple Granted UI Patent That Could Spell Big Trouble for Competitors

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Apple on Tuesday was awarded what is being considered as “the mother of all smartphone software patents,” according Phandroid’s Kevin Krause. Considering Apple’s recent track record, the company may be preparing to bring down a legal hail storm against Google’s Android. “The effects could be swift and lethal,” Krause admitted.
Of particular interest, patent number 8,223,134, which covers “Portable electronic device, method, and graphical user interface for displaying electronic lists and documents,” could be Apple’s biggest weapon. Basically, it covers user interfaces for smartphone email, telephone, camera, video player, browser, widgets, search, notes, maps and a multitouch interface. That’s a list of features in every competing smartphone OS.
PatentlyApple said, “Apple reinvented the smartphone, and today they get another patent victory to celebrate that fact… Apple’s iPhone truly reinvented the smartphone and Apple’s granted patent reflects the broad range of graphical user interface innovations that they brought to market.”
Apple has been steadfast in its quest to squash any competition it deems has stolen from the Cupertino-company. Over the past several months, Apple has been embroiled in a number of lawsuits around the globe, the most recent of which dealing with the Galaxy Nexus.
The granting of such a broad patent could have far reaching consequences on the marketplace, and potentially stifle any major future software advancements, which is ultimately bad for consumers.
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Wow....
Pressed from my BANNED unified search enabled Maguro
On the other hand, courts could rule the patent invalid...
It aint over till its over.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/uk-judge-tells-apple-to-publicly-apologize/
Hahahaha I read this to, the question would be weather Apple decides to fight and get some sort of an injunction. I do think if these suits start getting out of control, it might backfire on Apple, but we will see. I mean, seriously, people didn't by Android because of a disappearing scroll bar, just like people didn't buy Android over Apple because of unified search.
Just a matter of time until all these apple patents get recognized as industry standards
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Google will change to a different scrollbar. I doubt it will ever matter. This doesn't mean the death of Google.
I can think of several ways around it, and they don't require an ugly persistent scrollbar either.
One being, no scrollbar at all. Haven't we moved past the need for those on mobile devices?
Exodian said:
Just a matter of time until all these apple patents get recognized as industry standards
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Exactly. Thats why I think there is a chance of the courts ruling the patent invalid.
adrynalyne said:
Exactly. Thats why I think there is a chance of the courts ruling the patent invalid.
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Unless it goes to Judge Koh...you know she is an undercover Apple FanJudge...she probably has stock in the compnay or something. :laugh:
HeCareth said:
Unless it goes to Judge Koh...you know she is an undercover Apple FanJudge...she probably has stock in the compnay or something. :laugh:
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Well, I was reading an article (don't ask for link I couldn't find it) where she has given Apple a hard time too.
adrynalyne said:
Well, I was reading an article (don't ask for link I couldn't find it) where she has given Apple a hard time too.
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It's about time, because that initial Nexus injunction was pure BS.....your trying to tell me that Apple lost market share and money because of unified search?
adrynalyne said:
Well, I was reading an article (don't ask for link I couldn't find it) where she has given Apple a hard time too.
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If the patent results in the creation of a smartphone monopoly on apple's part, then the courts might be able to rule the patent invalid if challenged.
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vader860 said:
If the patent results in the creation of a smartphone monopoly on apple's part, then the courts might be able to rule the patent invalid if challenged.
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It won't/can't unless nobody is willing to change it. A simple patch could remove scrollbars altogether and then its a non-issue.
here we go again
All this bull**** its getting out of control.. In the case that apple managed to kill EVERY SMART PHONE IN THE WORLD meaning iphone its the only remaining device.. I'd rather go back to an old dumb nokia 5120 or such over buying an apple device.
But I guess with this new patent they gonna affect even Microsoft and windows 8 phones.. And this its where I don't know if apple's legal department its crowded with retards.. Because I am sure that messing with Microsoft never its a good option.. They can smack apple down to the hell any day
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Google will change to a different scrollbar. I doubt it will ever matter.
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As long as googles scroll bar doesn't fully disappear they should be fine, perhaps if it shrinks to a 1 pixel wide bar all is well. Gotta love apple and its revolutionary software patents where a few lines of code can bypass them all.
Tapatalk/xda app infringe this patent at the moment, just saying xD
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That's like saying Toyota suing everyone because Toyota car's wheel are round, and so are the competitors..
What shape do you want the tires to be? Square, better yet triangle?
nitrogen618 said:
That's like saying Toyota suing everyone because Toyota car's wheel are round, and so are the competitors..
What shape do you want the tires to be? Square, better yet triangle?
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If apple had their way, they would be apple shaped, with a bite out of it.
Seriously, all this patent bull**** is getting old.
Know-Fear said:
If apple had their way, they would be apple shaped, with a bite out of it.
Seriously, all this patent bull**** is getting old.
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Might as well sue nature. lol

Samsung vs Apple lawsuit repercussions

I don't want to be negative because I love my android especially my s3 but anyone know how loosing that case in court to apple is going to affect us and our s3's? One of my friends said oh just wait a few weeks and demand an iPhone 5 from your carrier. I really don't want to do that as I abhore apple products. I despise the proprietary nature of the iPhones and how inflexible they are. No expanding memory.. no ability to tweak them ...just so very utilitarian and unmanageable... so if anyone knows how this loss to Samsung will affect us I'd love to hear opinions and thoughts... thanks.!
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It could would to samsung, because more people are finding out how samsung makes apple's processors, etc. In fact, that essentially in the guts, hardware wise, similar products, though the apple is like 3x more, and samsung has a better quality and price.
This ban could be temporary; the nexus was banned, but if you check the play store, its back to being sold; it has for some time now.
So in the end, will really just have to watch as it plays out. This could be 'htc move' for apple; where people were unhappy with them because of them going back on their bootloader word. This could drive more people to samsung.
Really why make another one of these threads when a few already exist..... And last I read nothing is banned as of yet.that hearing is set for sometime in Dec. And on top of that the GS3 is not one of the phones Apple is going after. Most of the galaxy s2 variants and a couple galaxy s1 are the ones being questioned.
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Really why make another one of these threads when a few already exist..... And last I read nothing is banned as of yet.that hearing is set for sometime in Dec. And on top of that the GS3 is not one of the phones Apple is going after. Most of the galaxy s2 variants and a couple galaxy s1 are the ones being questioned.
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+1 You guys gonna give yourselves gray hairs tripping on that bs lawsuit.
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+2, That lawsuit had absolutely nothing to do with the gs3 and will not affect us in any way. All it will do in my opinion is encourage Samsung and others to innovate more and be more creative which is good.
And why the heck would buying an iphone be a solution to anything? Your friend is dumb.
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The lawsuit is far from over... that being said the S3 has had a 50% increase in sales since the verdict(S2s have been traded or sold to the resellers) so tell me who lost in court?
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And here is Samsung fighting back....
http://mashable.com/2012/08/31/samsung-sue-iphone-5-lte/
Just think of this is true, either Samsung will get money back. Or you can brag about your phone having LTE (if/when you get coverage) and their brand new ICrap 5 doesn't.
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And here is Samsung fighting back....
http://mashable.com/2012/08/31/samsung-sue-iphone-5-lte/
Just think of this is true, either Samsung will get money back. Or you can brag about your phone having LTE (if/when you get coverage) and their brand new ICrap 5 doesn't.
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Lol
My best friend is Korean and told me before the trial even started "Apple dosent want to mess with those people because they will get revenge even if its with there last dying breath" and I think he is probably right.
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SAMSUNG Court Case
Well, all I have to say is...if the developers keep turning out stuff like this latest nightly, 08/31 CM10, Apple is going to sue them.
I was floored by the performance boost in the GUI and how I finally have a phone with no personal complaints I can cite.
CPU runs all the code I write fast enough for what I need, and the wireless N support doesn't suck.
On top of that, the radio on the unit works very well for voice calls, far better than my EVO does.
(My poor EVO has been relegated to displaying Weather, playing MP3's and movies as a gift to my sister.)
As for the lawsuit, I would like to remind everyone no money has changed hands yet. There is an appeal process. There _will_ be an appeal process because lawyers don't like to turn down that much cash, I can assure you.
Secondly, the last time LINUX was threatened, was SCO. A grass roots effort over a 5 year period, reduced the company to a rubble pile. Geeks like myself, have HUGE bearing on our friends and our families on what they should buy. Even the small number of geeks at the time working in the open source industry.
Now, it is an entirely different story. Open source runs the modern world now.
If Apple gets out of line, and starts shutting down product lines of companies for what could be argued as the most ridiculous legal proceedings ever, since the SCO case, we will mobilize.
We will mobilize our friends, our families, our places of work and like SCO, Apple will feel our wrath and it will wither and die as a company.
Many like myself feel this way because we understand how technology and science works, and it works by building on previous inventions.
_ALL_ companies build on previous products and technology. Apple is no exception.
If SAMSUNG copied the parts and software I could see legal validation for retribution. But the products displayed in the courtroom in this particular instance have little technological, software or GUI likeness if at all to any Apple product.
Secondly, the jury was stacked by Silicone Valley idiots, which has already been shown to have complete bias towards Apple, regardless of their beliefs of right or wrong in the said legal case against SAMSUNG.
-Hack
seabhac said:
I don't want to be negative because I love my android especially my s3 but anyone know how loosing that case in court to apple is going to affect us and our s3's? One of my friends said oh just wait a few weeks and demand an iPhone 5 from your carrier. I really don't want to do that as I abhore apple products. I despise the proprietary nature of the iPhones and how inflexible they are. No expanding memory.. no ability to tweak them ...just so very utilitarian and unmanageable... so if anyone knows how this loss to Samsung will affect us I'd love to hear opinions and thoughts... thanks.!
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