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[Q] Where can I get a 1A car charger in Canada?

I bought this kit from e-bay and just got it in today, so have been trying it out on my drive from home <-> work.
The problem is, the car charger they supplied doesn't seem to be sufficient to charge the phone or at least keep its battery at a constant state when I'm using it as a GPS + Streaming music. On my drive home, I started at about 50% battery life. An hour or so later, I was down to about 35ish with it plugged in nearly the entire time. So clearly it's not pumping enough juice to the device
I was thinking of buying one of these from monoprice but I wanted to make sure it really would give me enough power. Obviously the power isn't that big of an issue, but I don't want to wait for it to ship only to find out that it doesn't help anyways.
Anyone tried the monoprice one I linked to, or one of the other ones from there? Or can suggest one to buy from elsewhere? Would greatly appreciate it, thank you!
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I should mention, I have a car charger uhh splitter thing...to split the one socket into two (one for an FM transmitter, and one for the phone). Could this be a limiting factor in how much power I'm getting to the phone as well? Or should the single socket have enough power for both devices?

I got a Kensington PowerBolt from Future Shop which claims to be 2.1 amps and I still drained the battery a bit when testing the nav. Possibly not as much as you but there is still a net loss. If the charger is accurate in its power then I presume my car isn't delivering enough power.
Any car charger that supports the ipad should be well above 1.0a. Whether it delivers that is a question I cannot answer.
Im going to test direct power charging while having the nav on to see if this thing can ever charge positive while in nav mode. I wonder if that has ever been done.
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I am not aware of any car charger that is 1amp. What you are looking for is pretty rare
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They are a little more prevalent thanks to the ipads higher power requirements for charging.
Future Shop has a few of them available now if you want. A little expensive though at $30+. I don't see the PowerBolt anymore which is too bad since that was a slim model that barely poked out of the socket.
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fatttire said:
I am not aware of any car charger that is 1amp. What you are looking for is pretty rare
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This is completely untrue... did you make this up?
Griffin makes many:
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/1207248/griffin-technology-powerjolt-car-charger-reviews/reviews.htm
Belkin and Kensington make them as well. Many are now 2.1A for the iPad.
But to the OP - a 1amp charger is not going to fix your problem in most cases. You need a cable with the data pins shorted so that the phone thinks it is pulling power from something other then a USB port.
A USB port only supplies 500mA - the phone will draw a max of about 750mA; but only if it thinks it is not attached to a PC. The wall charger shorts the data connection so the phone knows to pull more current.
I purchased a dual port (1A per port) charger at target or walmart, and then a took a USB cable and cut open the cable and shorted the data wires (not red or white - but the other 2). My phone says it is charging on AC power and charging keeps up with GPS.
It is possible that you could buy a car charger with the cable built in and the circuitry set to tell the phone to draw more then the USB 500mA, but I am not sure.
But know this; if the phone does not say "AC Charging" under settings->phone-> about - like it does when the wall charger is in use; then you are only getting 500mA.

I use a 2 amp 12v to usb adapter that is use for my ecig passthrough. Charges with bluetooth, streaming music, and navigation all running but charges slowly. Something like $8 on madvapes.com
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Excellent. I am going to give that a try. I have one of those flat retractable cables so its going to be a pain in the ass to do but its worth it.
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alphadog00 said:
This is completely untrue... did you make this up?
Griffin makes many:
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/1207248/griffin-technology-powerjolt-car-charger-reviews/reviews.htm
Belkin and Kensington make them as well. Many are now 2.1A for the iPad.
But to the OP - a 1amp charger is not going to fix your problem in most cases. You need a cable with the data pins shorted so that the phone thinks it is pulling power from something other then a USB port.
A USB port only supplies 500mA - the phone will draw a max of about 750mA; but only if it thinks it is not attached to a PC. The wall charger shorts the data connection so the phone knows to pull more current.
I purchased a dual port (1A per port) charger at target or walmart, and then a took a USB cable and cut open the cable and shorted the data wires (not red or white - but the other 2). My phone says it is charging on AC power and charging keeps up with GPS.
It is possible that you could buy a car charger with the cable built in and the circuitry set to tell the phone to draw more then the USB 500mA, but I am not sure.
But know this; if the phone does not say "AC Charging" under settings->phone-> about - like it does when the wall charger is in use; then you are only getting 500mA.
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Oooo that's interesting, didn't know that. So perhaps the issue could be that my cable is not supplying enough power. Are there instructions somewhere detailing how to short the cable?
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I use a 2 amp 12v to usb adapter that is use for my ecig passthrough. Charges with bluetooth, streaming music, and navigation all running but charges slowly. Something like $8 on madvapes.com
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Do you mean this? Isn't 2 amps too much though?

Didn't make it up - just havent looked in the last 6 months. Ur right they are pretty common now.
Might invest in one
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ootz0rz said:
Oooo that's interesting, didn't know that. So perhaps the issue could be that my cable is not supplying enough power. Are there instructions somewhere detailing how to short the cable?
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You're going to need to strip a cable so so that you can get to the individual wires for each pin. You want to short pins 2 and 3 together which are Data- and Data+. Normally that is WHITE and GREEN
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Once you do that, you'll have a charge only cable.
Here's the detailed directions:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=46449

I think the shorted data pins are necessary, but 2 amps wouldn't be too much. Li-ion batts love fast short charges.
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Are you saying that the phone will only draw a max of 750mAmps and so anything greater wont provide utility?
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You're going to need to strip a cable so so that you can get to the individual wires for each pin........
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Awesome! I'll try this out and see if it works, thank you
lastdeadmouse said:
I think the shorted data pins are necessary, but 2 amps wouldn't be too much. Li-ion batts love fast short charges.
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I thought there might be a limit on how much current you can provide at any one time.
On the original subject: I've started using a different car charger, and now have it plugged directly into the socket in my car. This results in it showing up as being charged by AC power in the settings -> phone status. However, it still loses power over time instead of keeping at the same charge or (ideally) charging the phone slowly.
I'm going to see if I can get my hands on that 2A charger and modify a cable, and see what happens then.
If anyone would like to see if the same thing happens to them, the main applications I have running are:
Google Navigation
TuneIn Radio (streaming from one of the DI.FM stations, and outputting audio to the headphone jack to my car)
I have 3g and GPS on, wifi off, brightness set to auto (have also tried with it set to the lowest it goes and the highest it goes, doesn't seem to make a substantial difference. Or even if it does, there is still a net loss in battery charge.)
It's on stock rogers rom, rooted, with no lag fix. And uhhh, that's all I can think of that would be relevant.

I've got an New Trent IMP1000, which is an 11.1Ah battery pack. It can output a max of 1A, but the phone doesn't see it as an AC charger, so it only draws .5A. If I short out the two pins so that it draws more power, how will the battery life of the battery pack be? Meaning how many phone charges will I get out of it? Will it be shorter, longer, or not have an impact?

Moosehunter said:
I've got an New Trent IMP1000, which is an 11.1Ah battery pack. It can output a max of 1A, but the phone doesn't see it as an AC charger, so it only draws .5A. If I short out the two pins so that it draws more power, how will the battery life of the battery pack be? Meaning how many phone charges will I get out of it? Will it be shorter, longer, or not have an impact?
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You should still get the same number of "phone charges" out from the pack...they'll just be quicker charges afaik. i.e. if the pack took 4 hours to do a full phone charge before, it may only take 2 hours now. The same amount of power is used up each time though.

any progress?

Car Charging 101

There are a million threads out there about car chargers for the Atrix, but none of them concretely provide a solution because the threads are either hijacked for some stupid rant or people just post guesses and/or opinions, never facts. For this thread, if you can't provide facts, please don't post, keep it open to those with real knowledge to share.
Background:
I've tested two car chargers to get the Atrix to POSITIVELY CHARGE while using Google Navigation and so far I've failed. In all cases, both by itself and on the official car cradle, I started at 100%, the battery slowly holds its charge for the first 20 or so mins, and then it just takes a nose dive. The longest trip I've been on is 5 hrs, where on the last 30 mins, the phone just shut off, battery at 0% and unable to run Google Nav or itself.
Are there any car chargers out there capable of charging the Atrix while in use by Google Nav/Pandora/Something Resource Hungry?
Is it a FACT that once the battery reaches a certain temp, it will stop charging no matter what, no matter what the power input is (500-1000mA)?
Can the official car dock (Moto or AT&T branded) support more than 500mA since it's treated as a USB connection?
The car chargers I've tested are the Moto SPN5400 and Belkin F8Z445ttP. I've read the Belkin, while rated at 1000mA, only comes through with 500mA because the Atrix treats it as a USB connection.

fact: I run google navigation on the car charger and it either slowly charges or seems to stay at the battery percentage. I also have the 1% mod so I can see the subtle charging

netter159 said:
fact: I run google navigation on the car charger and it either slowly charges or seems to stay at the battery percentage. I also have the 1% mod so I can see the subtle charging
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What car charger are you using and its rated power output?

I use a SYBA SY-IPO20010 USB Car Charger its rated power output 600-700mA and the atrix sees it as a wall charger (i know this because i can boot into tanfar's cwm using it). it charges my phone slightly slower than the wall charger when used without the cardock. However when used with the cardock charging times are alot slower.

spielnicht said:
There are a million threads out there about car chargers for the Atrix, but none of them concretely provide a solution because the threads are either hijacked for some stupid rant or people just post guesses and/or opinions, never facts. For this thread, if you can't provide facts, please don't post, keep it open to those with real knowledge to share.
Background:
I've tested two car chargers to get the Atrix to POSITIVELY CHARGE while using Google Navigation and so far I've failed. In all cases, both by itself and on the official car cradle, I started at 100%, the battery slowly holds its charge for the first 20 or so mins, and then it just takes a nose dive. The longest trip I've been on is 5 hrs, where on the last 30 mins, the phone just shut off, battery at 0% and unable to run Google Nav or itself.
Are there any car chargers out there capable of charging the Atrix while in use by Google Nav/Pandora/Something Resource Hungry?
Is it a FACT that once the battery reaches a certain temp, it will stop charging no matter what, no matter what the power input is (500-1000mA)?
Can the official car dock (Moto or AT&T branded) support more than 500mA since it's treated as a USB connection?
The car chargers I've tested are the Moto SPN5400 and Belkin F8Z445ttP. I've read the Belkin, while rated at 1000mA, only comes through with 500mA because the Atrix treats it as a USB connection.
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Charging in Moto car dock with Moto dual port usb rapid charger. Google Nav and Pandora running. Test one shows in increase in charge of 20% charge per hour. I plan to test for a longer duration to get a mire accurate reading.
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jjwatmyself said:
Charging in Moto car dock with Moto dual port usb rapid charger. Google Nav and Pandora running. Test one shows in increase in charge of 20% charge per hour. I plan to test for a longer duration to get a mire accurate reading.
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I'm going to assume you mean model SJ1444A. How long is the included cable? I would hopefully assume it is longer than the USB cable that comes with the Atrix itself, but I wanted to make sure. I could not find this information on any product Web sites.

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the official atrix car dock

I use an energizer charger, that comes with interchangeable ends and have never seen the charge be lower than when i started. That's with pandora, nav, etc.
forget exactly which one, but i bought it when i had my aria, and it was listed for HTC devices.

I used the Moto SPN5400 ($4 on amazon prime) and mine definitely charges still while using navi, albeit slower of course.

I use this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Atrix-...317163?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item33683f64eb) with the car dock and stock car dock cable. I've had navigation and poweramp running and it will never go down in percent. Only up.

Even the crappiest of car chargers will charge, but when using a resource hungry app like you mentioned your mileage may vary (pun intended?).
I've found heat to play a big factor too. I learned this the hard way when my Atrix was scorching and I was in the US ripping home to make a deadline. GPS and Google Nav killed the battery to the point where it kept restarting. So I let it charge while turned off for a while and had enough juice to make it home and use GPS navigation. Whew! So scary because I didn't know where the hell I was and would have been screwed if I didn't get home on time.
I always try staying charged ahead of time or make sure there's a good buffer. Hopefully someone can share which charger is a better one out there. The one I use is for use with an iPhone and is just a cheap USB charger.

Im using a Nokia car charger with a mini-usb adapter (which while charging gets kinda hot by the way) and also use Aura GPS with my Atrix.
The most I've used the GPS it is for about 2.5 hours without noticing any problem whatsoever. In fact, once I unplug the Atrix, it shows 100% charge.
However here's what I think it's happening to some: If your Atrix is mounted on the screen, the Atrix will receive a huge amount of UV light (heat) even on cloudy days, maybe overheating the battery, thus preventing it to get a charge? Could that be possible?

Rayan said:
Im using a Nokia car charger with a mini-usb adapter (which while charging gets kinda hot by the way) and also use Aura GPS with my Atrix.
The most I've used the GPS it is for about 2.5 hours without noticing any problem whatsoever. In fact, once I unplug the Atrix, it shows 100% charge.
However here's what I think it's happening to some: If your Atrix is mounted on the screen, the Atrix will receive a huge amount of UV light (heat) even on cloudy days, maybe overheating the battery, thus preventing it to get a charge? Could that be possible?
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Yes. Excess heat prevents charging. I have posted screenshots on one of the other threads showing this.
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I was going to call AT&T today and ask them to send me a new car dock because I thought mine was defective. I'm glad I checked here. I've tried about 4 different car/USB chargers along with my car dock and none seem to charge it when I'm using Google Nav. I'm currently using the Kensington K33497US PowerBolt Duo. It has a 2.1 Amp side which I felt sure would change the phone...nope.
So it must be heat then that's causing the charging failure. The phone is scorching hot when I take it out of the dock. I wonder if there is anything that can be done. If I can't use the phone for navigation, what's the point of the car dock?

ka3yan said:
I was going to call AT&T today and ask them to send me a new car dock because I thought mine was defective. I'm glad I checked here. I've tried about 4 different car/USB chargers along with my car dock and none seem to charge it when I'm using Google Nav. I'm currently using the Kensington K33497US PowerBolt Duo. It has a 2.1 Amp side which I felt sure would change the phone...nope.
So it must be heat then that's causing the charging failure. The phone is scorching hot when I take it out of the dock. I wonder if there is anything that can be done. If I can't use the phone for navigation, what's the point of the car dock?
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I've come to the same conclusion as well. The excessive heat really does prevent it from charging. I went on the same road trip to the US as before and even driving in the early morning or late night when it was relatively chilly, the phone still got too hot to charge.
I went down to about 60% charge from 100% charge using just an offline GPS navigation program. Using Google Nav drains it a little more because of the data usage. Kind of a bummer. I always make sure to go on a full charge because having no GPS in a foreign place is a bit freaky.

ka3yan said:
I was going to call AT&T today and ask them to send me a new car dock because I thought mine was defective. I'm glad I checked here. I've tried about 4 different car/USB chargers along with my car dock and none seem to charge it when I'm using Google Nav. I'm currently using the Kensington K33497US PowerBolt Duo. It has a 2.1 Amp side which I felt sure would change the phone...nope.
So it must be heat then that's causing the charging failure. The phone is scorching hot when I take it out of the dock. I wonder if there is anything that can be done. If I can't use the phone for navigation, what's the point of the car dock?
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Here's something I've done to help the heat. If you have the dock mounted on your windshield, set your vents to come out through the defrost. This will blow cold A/C onto the windshield and dock and helps the phone remain reasonably cool.

drumercalzone09 said:
Here's something I've done to help the heat. If you have the dock mounted on your windshield, set your vents to come out through the defrost. This will blow cold A/C onto the windshield and dock and helps the phone remain reasonably cool.
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Good tip!
I had mine mounted on the dash but moved it to the windshield as well. I normally have the windshield vent on blowing cool air anyway and I'm sure it helped.
During my previous trip I was down to around 40% at times (from a full charge). Using the offline GPS nav helped too. Some programs even allow you to change the GPS intervals but it's something I wouldn't toy with. I'd rather have accurate GPS and sacrifice battery life.
Still a bit of a bummer. Wish there were more ways to curb the excessive heat.

I wonder if it would make a difference if I took the back of the phone off when it was in the dock. I already have to take it out of the case to put it in the dock, it wouldn't be any problem to take the back off at the same time. It might help air move across the battery better....one less thing holding heat in.

ka3yan said:
I wonder if it would make a difference if I took the back of the phone off when it was in the dock. I already have to take it out of the case to put it in the dock, it wouldn't be any problem to take the back off at the same time. It might help air move across the battery better....one less thing holding heat in.
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I don't think it'd make an appreciable difference.
Maybe if you have a cooler in the vehicle when you're on a long trip you can lay it on that for a bit. But then you'd need to worry about water damage and condensation... bleh...

UV light wouldn't really be the cause of excess heat, IR light would be more the culprit... which is present in sunlight also.

ONE X drains faster than it charges (GPS)..

Anyone else use their One X for turn by turn for more than an hour? On a recent trip I was on I was using my One X as my main GPS device (plugged in).. When I arrived at my destination I was amazed that my battery had been draining faster than it had been charging! Tested a few more times with the same result and I find the only way to stop it is to turn down the screen brightness to 10 where I can hardly see the screen making the GPS unusable ..
Sometimes I hate this phone..

You need a faster charger. Get one about 750-1000 mAh and will be fine.

The one x can only draw about 500 mah so anything over won't make a different
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madenssblade said:
The one x can only draw about 500 mah so anything over won't make a different
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I´ve seen mine over 700 mAh. It depends of your charger.

Was having same problems... Then i swapt the charger with original one... Now it charges like a charm
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madenssblade said:
The one x can only draw about 500 mah so anything over won't make a different
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rubbish.
a 1 amp charger does and will charge the one x faster than a 500ma charger.

slashd0t said:
Anyone else use their One X for turn by turn for more than an hour? On a recent trip I was on I was using my One X as my main GPS device (plugged in).. When I arrived at my destination I was amazed that my battery had been draining faster than it had been charging! Tested a few more times with the same result and I find the only way to stop it is to turn down the screen brightness to 10 where I can hardly see the screen making the GPS unusable ..
Sometimes I hate this phone..
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I'm using a 1000 mAh charger don't ve this problem however it will stop charge when it gets over heated.

Tonyipad2 said:
I'm using a 1000 mAh charger don't ve this problem however it will stop charge when it gets over heated.
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best lie of the day

shiningarmor said:
best lie of the day
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whats a lie about it lol?

lawrence750 said:
whats a lie about it lol?
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durrrrrrrr
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holy ****, i read 100 mah instead of 1000.
my eyes are failing lol

Same experience here, international HOX drains a faster than charges from car plug. Using Belkin 1A charger and original 1m cable, Im getting only like 500 mA into the device. BUT the consumption actually depends on used navigation software, some drain 1A (HTC locations), but others are not that demanding, asking bellow 500 mA. And same is for heating issue.

Yeah I'm just using Google Navigation and a 1000mah charger..
The phone does get stupid hot while doing this, so, perhaps it's overheating and not charging as mentioned previously?

All 1A charging adapters aren't created equal. Same as with cheap MHL, HDMI, and USB cables. I use my G-Tab's car adapter and have never had any issues with heat or the phone pulling more current than the charge puts out. I've used it non-stop for trips over five hours too (while using A2DP to stream music at the same time and with Vlingo InCar checking e-mail every five minutes). You might want to try a more premium adapter before pulling your hair out troubleshooting the phone.

BarryH_GEG said:
All 1A charging adapters aren't created equal. Same as with cheap MHL, HDMI, and USB cables. I use my G-Tab's car adapter and have never had any issues with heat or the phone pulling more current than the charge puts out. I've used it non-stop for trips over five hours too (while using A2DP to stream music at the same time and with Vlingo InCar checking e-mail every five minutes). You might want to try a more premium adapter before pulling your hair out troubleshooting the phone.
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Have some original htc charger with 2 USB ports. And still same issue as op. Drains faster as it charges. What's a more premium charger to you?
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PAGOT said:
Have some original htc charger with 2 USB ports. And still same issue as op. Drains faster as it charges. What's a more premium charger to you?
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People in the car dock discussion were actually complaining about the included HTC charger. I bought some extra HTC standard U.S. USB charging adapters and cables from Expansys and one of the three was DOA. So I guess "premium" can't always be judged by brand.
Below is what I'm using. The problem with buying OEM chargers and cables is that eBay and Amazon are full of knock-offs that come in cellophane vs. manufacturers packaging. Over time I stopped buying cables and charges anywhere but places like Expansys, Clove, and Handtec. They cost more but I know they're real OEM parts and that they'll work (with the above exception); out of the box and over time.
http://www.expansys.com/accessory-finder/#manid=783&intstockcode=219790&atype=Power
EDIT: Duh. It's a 2A charger. I looked at the specs after I posted and looked at my actual charger to verify it. So get yourselves a 2A tablet (vs. phone) charger and I'm guessing that'll do the trick.

Like BarryH_GEG said, there are different types of 1A adaptors... I have two chargers - 1000mA generic and 1000mA HTC's charger that I've got in the package with original HTC car kit... If using generic, phone recognizes it as a USB (and charges realy slow), when using original-one It recognizes it as AC and charges as fast as when it is connected to normal 'wall plug'. So... Check in battery stats how your charger is recognized...
Of course it gets hot when charging at the same time when using GPS navigation, but it never overheats.

It's possible it's the charger, but, it's a high quality charger... I'll try swap it for a different kind and see how that goes..
Thanks all for the help.

just use a 1A (1000mA) charger. put your brightness not higher than 50% (prefer lower, but because of the sunlight, sometimes a bit higher than 33%)
it will even charge!
I got no problems with it
the One X can charge with 1A..
when you just use your normal inhouse charger, you've got a 1A charger, when you connect your phone to your notebook, you'll get 500mA. (0,5A)
for car chargers, look for a 1A charger, higher is useless.

I'm using the same official HTC car charger that I used with the Desire. It works perfectly, even when using Sat Nav.
This is the exact model (auction is just the first one I came across and is nothing to do with me)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Official-Genuine-HTC-CC-C200-Micro-USB-Car-Charger-for-HTC-ONE-X-S-V-/200791540305?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccessories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item2ec01bc251

Kubino77 said:
Same experience here, international HOX drains a faster than charges from car plug. Using Belkin 1A charger and original 1m cable, Im getting only like 500 mA into the device. BUT the consumption actually depends on used navigation software, some drain 1A (HTC locations), but others are not that demanding, asking bellow 500 mA. And same is for heating issue.
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The Belkin chargers will never charge an Android device at 1000mA. The D+ and D- pins are not connected together, so the Android device (correctly) assumes it is plugged into a USB port.
You either need an official HTC/Samsung/Huawei in car charger, or a CHEAP chinese/taiwan one. The big-brand ones, like Belkin, are aimed at iPhones, and are non-compliant with the USB charging standard.
It's true that the One X will charge at a lower rate when it overheats (and hence discharge if the screen is on with Google Nav running). Dim the screen, or turn it off and rely on the voice instead.

Need good car charger recommendations please

I have a dual car charger that I used for my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7, now when I plug the Nexus 5 it charges fine, but if I use maps or Waze it does not give enough power to charge it and keep the Nexus running, I actually see a slow power drain on the battery, example this morning on the way to work I plugged the Nexus 5 and it was at 87% charged, I turned on GPS and waze a started my drive to work about 45 minutes later arrived at work and the power was at 83%, small drop but it tells me the charge cant keep up, anyone recommend a good charge to use in the car that can charge as I use GPS maps etc ?
Thanks

Amazon.com: Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger
I have been using this charger for a long time. It charges fast enough where even if you are using GPS you will still gain battery %. Mine has lasted at least 2 years and never had a problem.
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I have been contemplating using a wireless charger for my car.
http://www.amazon.com/UPGRADED-Wire...id=1384311056&sr=8-1&keywords=nexus+5+charger
I don't mind plugging in my phone into a wired charger at night but thought it would be cool to have a wireless one right underneath the radio receiver in my car. That way I don't have to bother plugging it in when I get in the car and can just lay it where I normally do anyways while getting a charge.
That one only measures 3.6" x 3.6" so it would be perfect.
Am I the only one?

I've got the same issue with my Anker charger, which is a 2A charger and worked brilliantly with my galaxy note 2. I also checked it with my friend's s4 and the galaxy charge current app, his s4 pulled 1.5A from it so I have no idea why the nexus 5 doesn't charge properly using it.
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arimus said:
I have a dual car charger that I used for my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7, now when I plug the Nexus 5 it charges fine, but if I use maps or Waze it does not give enough power to charge it and keep the Nexus running, I actually see a slow power drain on the battery, example this morning on the way to work I plugged the Nexus 5 and it was at 87% charged, I turned on GPS and waze a started my drive to work about 45 minutes later arrived at work and the power was at 83%, small drop but it tells me the charge cant keep up, anyone recommend a good charge to use in the car that can charge as I use GPS maps etc ?
Thanks
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A couple of things to look at first before you throw your charger out with the bathwater. When you charge, does the settings -> battery screen say charging (AC) or charging (USB)? It is my understanding that "USB" charging is supplied at a lower rate (~500maH) which is less than GPS, screen on and Waze may consume. Charging (AC) is much higher aka "fast charging". If you use a data USB cable on DC, Android phones have been known to default to the lower USB charging level. I had the same in-car battery drain problem on my N4 and switched to a power only cable and it solved the problem, YMMV. You can modify a data usb cable by shorting pins or you can buy a power only USB cable. Search amazon for PortaPow and it should pop up.

http://www.amazon.com/Release-Anker...=1384318572&sr=8-6&keywords=anker+car+charger
just bought this, looks good with 4.8 AMPs combined output and 2.4 at each end.

burgerpimp07 said:
I have been contemplating using a wireless charger for my car.
http://www.amazon.com/UPGRADED-Wire...id=1384311056&sr=8-1&keywords=nexus+5+charger
I don't mind plugging in my phone into a wired charger at night but thought it would be cool to have a wireless one right underneath the radio receiver in my car. That way I don't have to bother plugging it in when I get in the car and can just lay it where I normally do anyways while getting a charge.
That one only measures 3.6" x 3.6" so it would be perfect.
Am I the only one?
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I've seen car mods where the some guys placed it under the change slot, the slot right in front of the shifter that also has a cigg lighter adaptor aka 12V adaptor. Also where they've placed it directly under the cup holder. I'm thinking of getting a DT900 and wiring it under the change slot and have it just sitting in there.

D3_ said:
I've got the same issue with my Anker charger, which is a 2A charger and worked brilliantly with my galaxy note 2. I also checked it with my friend's s4 and the galaxy charge current app, his s4 pulled 1.5A from it so I have no idea why the nexus 5 doesn't charge properly using it.
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I've been in contact with Anker support over this. After them telling me the phone must be using over 2A and that's why it's not charging while plugged in to the Anker charger and me dismissing that as the stock AC charger is 1.2A and works fine, I got this reply:
I heard from other customers that there is special design with Nexus 5 phone. Anyway, I will forward your problem to our engineer to further investigation and testing. Thanks for your understanding in advance.
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Anyway after reading a few of the newer comments here I decided to check whether it was being detected as AC charging or USB charging, which would explain the issue, but the phone reported AC so I have no idea why it won't charge properly. Probably something LG/Google implemented to prevent overheating.

arimus said:
I have a dual car charger that I used for my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7, now when I plug the Nexus 5 it charges fine, but if I use maps or Waze it does not give enough power to charge it and keep the Nexus running, I actually see a slow power drain on the battery, example this morning on the way to work I plugged the Nexus 5 and it was at 87% charged, I turned on GPS and waze a started my drive to work about 45 minutes later arrived at work and the power was at 83%, small drop but it tells me the charge cant keep up, anyone recommend a good charge to use in the car that can charge as I use GPS maps etc ?
Thanks
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http://www.amazon.ca/PowerGen-Dual-...qid=1384342096&sr=8-1&keywords=powergen+3.6+a
Have two myself. Can charge phone and tablet with both at full load.

grndc2gsr said:
Amazon.com: Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger
I have been using this charger for a long time. It charges fast enough where even if you are using GPS you will still gain battery %. Mine has lasted at least 2 years and never had a problem.
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Another vote for this charger. Just look at the reviews. Rock solid.

grndc2gsr said:
Amazon.com: Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger
I have been using this charger for a long time. It charges fast enough where even if you are using GPS you will still gain battery %. Mine has lasted at least 2 years and never had a problem.
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RedWingsFan said:
Another vote for this charger. Just look at the reviews. Rock solid.
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Funnily enough, ordering this from the US amazon site with shipping to the UK is still cheaper than buying it from the UK amazon site (or seemingly anywhere else in the UK.)

RedWingsFan said:
Another vote for this charger. Just look at the reviews. Rock solid.
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grndc2gsr said:
Amazon.com: Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger
I have been using this charger for a long time. It charges fast enough where even if you are using GPS you will still gain battery %. Mine has lasted at least 2 years and never had a problem.
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And one more vote for this charger. I have been using it for over a year and it works great with all the phones I've had, including the Nexus 5. I also use Waze and stream Spotify while in the car, and a good charger (like this one) will always leave you with a positive battery %.

Thanks for all the help guy's, I am in Canada, and its the same as the UK, I find it cheaper to get it from the USA including shipping, if not Amazon the flea bay will have it .

I purchased a 5$ usb charger at walgreens about a year ago. I've been using it with a generic micro usb cord for both my galaxy nexus and now with my Nexus 5 with no issues.

http://www.monsterwatts.com/Wireless_Car_Charger.html
Anyone have an experience with this charger?

twister99403 said:
http://www.monsterwatts.com/Wireless_Car_Charger.html
Anyone have an experience with this charger?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47428957&postcount=124

I'm in the UK and use a New Trent Arcadia charger (Amazon link) in the car, which did a good job with my previous phone, a Galaxy S3. I have not really used the charger with navigation in anger, just some short trips to test, and what I've found is that Waze seems to need a fair bit more power than Maps - as with the OP the battery level is still decreasing, albeit more slowly, while navigating with Waze. My charger appears to keep up with Maps, though.
With the S3, I did find that the charger did charge the battery more slowly when navigating with Waze than when navigating using Google Maps as well.
Shame, because for some journeys I actually prefer to use Waze.
With that in mind, though, I think the New Trent is a decent choice.

grndc2gsr said:
Amazon.com: Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger
I have been using this charger for a long time. It charges fast enough where even if you are using GPS you will still gain battery %. Mine has lasted at least 2 years and never had a problem.
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+1 i too have the same one...I got it from fommy and I just love it...it works well both with my N3 and N5....

arimus said:
I have a dual car charger that I used for my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7, now when I plug the Nexus 5 it charges fine, but if I use maps or Waze it does not give enough power to charge it and keep the Nexus running, I actually see a slow power drain on the battery, example this morning on the way to work I plugged the Nexus 5 and it was at 87% charged, I turned on GPS and waze a started my drive to work about 45 minutes later arrived at work and the power was at 83%, small drop but it tells me the charge cant keep up, anyone recommend a good charge to use in the car that can charge as I use GPS maps etc ?
Thanks
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Had the same issue. You just have to enable the fast charge option in f.e. Trickster. After enabling this option your phone will be charged even when using a gps navi etc.
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I bought this one for the dedicated cord that comes with it. But the other Anker people suggested is just as good.
http://www.amazon.com/portable-Incl...=1386027159&sr=1-3&keywords=anker+car+charger

usb cables

hi. I'm noticing big differences in the charge rate depending on the cable i'm using. some cables can't charge the phone even if they have absolutely no issues with other phones, so i was thinking about creating some sort of cables db to help each other if we need to buy spare cables. i'm still looking for a good app to post more accurate tests, but for the moment here's what i've found.
cables (tested with the stock n5 charger)
n5 stock
no problem, charging at more than 1000 mA​
amazon basics (1,8m)
not charging, discharge rate reduced of about 200 mA​
sgs2 stock
very slow charging, about 200 mA​
Premium USB to Micro USB Charge & Sync Cable 6ft- Black (link)
Charges at +1000ma with any of my 2a power supplies.​
all in one chargers:
sgs2 stock
very slow charging, about 300 mA​
i've tested other cables, but i can't remember where i got them, anyway none of them was charging the phone
i've tested the same cables with different chargers (all of them rated 1000mA) without major differences.
the tests were made using battery monitor widget.
if you have cables to test post the results here, i will update the op as soon as i can. please also test already tested cables to confirm what we've found.
i'm also looking for suggestion for better apps or better test methods.

Premium USB to Micro USB Charge & Sync Cable 6ft- Black
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=9762&seq=1&format=2
Charges at +1000ma with any of my 2a power supplies.

I used my Sprint Samsung GSII (E4GT) charging brick and cable last night and under battery stats it showed charging (AC) and it seemed to be charging the phone quickly.
Is there a place to see this on the stock rom or do I have to download an app to see the voltage?

Raistlin1 said:
I used my Sprint Samsung GSII (E4GT) charging brick and cable last night and under battery stats it showed charging (AC) and it seemed to be charging the phone quickly.
Is there a place to see this on the stock rom or do I have to download an app to see the voltage?
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i used the app because i don't know a better way.

KoRRo89 said:
i used the app because i don't know a better way.
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what app did you used?
i wanna do this tests too

escape21 said:
what app did you used?
i wanna do this tests too
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i used battery monitor widget. play store link. the better option is to let it run and post an average of the graph or you can just post the instant value but it's not so accurate...

Ok, I've made a more accurate test and I've taken some screenshots, for the moment I'm going to upload them here, tomorrow I'll update the op.
OK, this is a charge using stock charger and cable, from around 50% to 100%.
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A bit slower than previous time, but nothing major. At the moment I was sleeping, so as usual for me it was in flight mode and with sleep as Android app running.
This is a partial charge (14% to 55%) with the stock charger and the Amazon basics cable.
much faster than previous test, but still not enough. Tested with very light use, and in flight mode for most of the time.
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I have several PortaPow 24AWG fast charge cables, best money I ever spent. My phone actually charges in the car now (and fast) while I'm using gps and streaming music over bluetooth, the cheap ebay cables I had before couldn't charge my devices while in use. When I use the Portapow cables they show up as AC charging in the battery settings instead of usb like the old ones.

green_comet said:
I have several PortaPow 24AWG fast charge cables, best money I ever spent. My phone actually charges in the car now (and fast) while I'm using gps and streaming music over bluetooth, the cheap ebay cables I had before couldn't charge my devices while in use. When I use the Portapow cables they show up as AC charging in the battery settings instead of usb like the old ones.
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just to clarify, all the cables i've tested are showing up as AC even if the charge is so slow.

Ahh ok, I found my cheap/slow cables would show usb under battery settings. I'm finding the Portapow cables very good though, I've tested them on my cars usb input, a Ventev r2200 4.2A charger, and a Kensington Powerbolt 4.2 and have performed flawlessly so far. I'll have to do a few more test and post the results up here. :good:

I have read reports of some users complaining that their micro usb cables don't fit in certain nexus 5 cases. Does anyone know of any cables (preferably that charge well lol) that are slim around the connector?

unvaluablespace said:
I have read reports of some users complaining that their micro usb cables don't fit in certain nexus 5 cases. Does anyone know of any cables (preferably that charge well lol) that are slim around the connector?
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the cable suggested by @gtj0 seems to be slim enough, but better wait for him.

KoRRo89 said:
hi. I'm noticing big differences in the charge rate depending on the cable i'm using. some cables can't charge the phone even if they have absolutely no issues with other phones, so i was thinking about creating some sort of cables db to help each other if we need to buy spare cables.
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I've noticed the same. Some chargers/cables seem to charge quickly, other slowly, if at all, even though the phone indicates AC charge status. This is a great idea for a thread and DB. Do you think it's more the cable vs the charger?

SykesAT said:
I've noticed the same. Some chargers/cables seem to charge quickly, other slowly, if at all, even though the phone indicates AC charge status. This is a great idea for a thread and DB. Do you think it's more the cable vs the charger?
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Yes, from what I've noticed it's more the cable. I only tested the original charger, another LG charger (1000 ma, from my old p990), a choiix (cooler master) 1000 ma charger, and my choiix external power bank. All the 3 1000 ma chargers are charging at almost the she speed, independently from the cable, che stock 1200 ma charger is definitely faster with the stock cable, no major differences with other cables, so I think the problem is definitely the cable.
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OK, so I've gone round all of my chargers and cables. There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to which option works best. Some cables hardly charge with some chargers, whereas charge much better with other chargers and vice versa. That being said the only comb that I've found that comes close to 1000mA is the LG charger and LG cable which came with the phone. All other combos max out at around 600mA and some combos hardly break 200mA.
Unfortunately I can't say what cables I've tried nor the chargers used. I just don't remember where they I bought them all or what device they came with.

Ok, this is the graph of tonight recharge using my power bank (1a out) and the stock cable WHILE PLAYNG INGRESS!
I can definitely say that (at least for me) the charger is absolutely not a problem
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so whats the difference here anyone want to guess? is this a matter of length of cable vs 22 awg vs 27awg type of thing?
did a fast test, my worst cables were the shortest ones oddly.

Ashcunak said:
so whats the difference here anyone want to guess? is this a matter of length of cable vs 22 awg vs 27awg type of thing?
did a fast test, my worst cables were the shortest ones oddly.
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I don't think it's a matter of length. For my cables it's true, the longest are the worst, but the sgs2 cable is just 2 or 3 cm longer than the n5 one and is far worst, just a bit better than the Amazon basics cable that is almost twice the length. Also one of the first replies was about a 1.8m cable that doesn't have any problem.
Regarding the awg I'm not totally sure because I don't know much about it. From what I know it's a measure system for the wires and it works the opposite than the metric system, so with the smallest numbers the cable gets bigger. The only cable with an awg number on it it's the Amazon one and it's a 28 awg. Seems strange that the n5 cable could be a 22 as hinted in your post since the Amazon cable seems to have almost a double external diameter compared to the stock one...
Also, according to a table I've found, a 28awg cable should be able to carry from 0.8 to 1.4 amps, far more than what I get using it.
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