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HTC Desire (Bravo) or Samsung Galaxy S i9000???

Hello! I have a big problem : I cannot decide between Samsung Galaxy S i9000 and HTC Desire/Bravo. I must mention that I am a multimedia user and I want any of these phones for Games, Music, Movies and Web Browsing. I have a Wi-Fi network at home. So I made a list with key features of these two phones, especially the differences.
HTC Desire--------------------------Samsung Galaxy S
-576 MB RAM (+)-----------------------512 MB RAM (-)
-512 MB ROM (-)------------------------2 GB ROM (+)
-256 MB memory (-)---------------------8 GB memory (+)
-LED Flash on Camera (+)----------------NO (-)
-AMOLED 3.7 inches (-)------------------Super AMOLED 4.0 inches (+)
-SENSE UI which I really like (+)----------Touchwiz 3.0 which is ok, but not the best (-)
-NO Swype (-)--------------------------Swype (+)
-feeble speaker (-)----------------------really nice loudspeaker (+)
-11.9 mm thick (-)----------------------- 9.9 mm thick (+)
- 135 g (-)------------------------------ 119 g (+)
- NOT filming HD (-)--------------------- filming HD (+)
- 1400 mAh battery (-)------------------1500 mAh battery (+)
- bluetooth 2.0 (-)---------------------- bluetooth 3.0 (+)
I would also consider the fact that Desire has Froyo (Android 2.2), but I believe it is unecessary, as Galaxy will receive FroYo within 2 months.
So, Desire has 3 "+"s, while Galaxy has the rest of 10 "+"s. This means that I should clearly get Samsung's Galaxy, but I am not very experienced about these phones and I might've mistaken something, so please correct me or give me some additional information.
The question remains available : "Galaxy or Desire?"

as for me... I don't believe in samsung build quality... and it looks uglie

Get the Samsung. I know you say you like Sense but I thought I did too until I realised Stock Android is actually a lot better (which you'll probably end up using if you root).
You could also use Launcher Pro which gives you some Sense Like Widgets and Fancy Widget to replicate the clock.

TudorEm said:
Hello! I have a big problem : I cannot decide between Samsung Galaxy S i9000 and HTC Desire/Bravo. I must mention that I am a multimedia user and I want any of these phones for Games, Music, Movies and Web Browsing. I have a Wi-Fi network at home. So I made a list with key features of these two phones, especially the differences.
HTC Desire--------------------------Samsung Galaxy S
-576 MB RAM (+)-----------------------512 MB RAM (-)
-512 MB ROM (-)------------------------2 GB ROM (+)
-256 MB memory (-)---------------------8 GB memory (+)
-LED Flash on Camera (+)----------------NO (-)
-AMOLED 3.7 inches (-)------------------Super AMOLED 4.0 inches (+)
-SENSE UI which I really like (+)----------Touchwiz 3.0 which is ok, but not the best (-)
-NO Swype (-)--------------------------Swype (+)
-feeble speaker (-)----------------------really nice loudspeaker (+)
-11.9 mm thick (-)----------------------- 9.9 mm thick (+)
- 135 g (-)------------------------------ 119 g (+)
- NOT filming HD (-)--------------------- filming HD (+)
- 1400 mAh battery (-)------------------1500 mAh battery (+)
- bluetooth 2.0 (-)---------------------- bluetooth 3.0 (+)
I would also consider the fact that Desire has Froyo (Android 2.2), but I believe it is unecessary, as Galaxy will receive FroYo within 2 months.
So, Desire has 3 "+"s, while Galaxy has the rest of 10 "+"s. This means that I should clearly get Samsung's Galaxy, but I am not very experienced about these phones and I might've mistaken something, so please correct me or give me some additional information.
The question remains available : "Galaxy or Desire?"
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Erm... The Desire can have Swype if you install it. AND my phone came with a 4GB card, they used to come with 32GB microSDs. The speaker on the desire isn't feeble at all, and it's Bluetooth 2.1+EDR for start. If you install customs ROMs on the Desire you can record in HD, and because the Desire's been out a little while longer and has a massive userbase in hardcore Android enthusiasts you're probably more likely to get custom firmware and support. A great deal of websites gave the Desire 9, 10 out of 10 and it's widely recognised as one of the premier handsets on the market.. and the build quality is second to none - i've handled the Galaxy S and it's flimsy materials and terrible, plasticky buttons in comparison to the desire. No competition

Still the Desire has the ability to get dust under the screen... ;-)
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

brummiesteven said:
Get the Samsung. I know you say you like Sense but I thought I did too until I realised Stock Android is actually a lot better (which you'll probably end up using if you root).
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Definitely disagree with the "probably" there - I'd be more inclined to say "possibly".
The Desire is my 3rd Android phone, having had a G1 and a Hero beforehand, and I find Sense much better than stock. I actually have two Desires - one is currently running MCR7 (Sense) and the other CM6 (non-Sense) and whilst CM6 is very good, I still vastly prefer Sense-based ROMs.
Few Android matters polarize opinion more than the Sense/non-Sense debate, but make no mistake the vast, vast, majority of Sense-based devices will always have Sense on them (given that 99% of users will never
root!) and even those that root are quite likely to install a Sense-based custom ROM.
Regards,
Dave

Galaxy = Ugly
Desire = Desirable
yeah!

TudorEm said:
Hello! I have a big problem : I cannot decide between Samsung Galaxy S i9000 and HTC Desire/Bravo. I must mention that I am a multimedia user and I want any of these phones for Games, Music, Movies and Web Browsing. I have a Wi-Fi network at home. So I made a list with key features of these two phones, especially the differences.
HTC Desire--------------------------Samsung Galaxy S
-576 MB RAM (+)-----------------------512 MB RAM (-)
-512 MB ROM (-)------------------------2 GB ROM (+)
-256 MB memory (-)---------------------8 GB memory (+) 1
-LED Flash on Camera (+)----------------NO (-)
-AMOLED 3.7 inches (-)------------------Super AMOLED 4.0 inches (+)
-SENSE UI which I really like (+)----------Touchwiz 3.0 which is ok, but not the best (-)
-NO Swype (-)--------------------------Swype (+) 2
-feeble speaker (-)----------------------really nice loudspeaker (+)
-11.9 mm thick (-)----------------------- 9.9 mm thick (+)
- 135 g (-)------------------------------ 119 g (+)
- NOT filming HD (-)--------------------- filming HD (+) 3
- 1400 mAh battery (-)------------------1500 mAh battery (+)
- bluetooth 2.0 (-)---------------------- bluetooth 3.0 (+)
I would also consider the fact that Desire has Froyo (Android 2.2), but I believe it is unecessary, as Galaxy will receive FroYo within 2 months.
So, Desire has 3 "+"s, while Galaxy has the rest of 10 "+"s. This means that I should clearly get Samsung's Galaxy, but I am not very experienced about these phones and I might've mistaken something, so please correct me or give me some additional information.
The question remains available : "Galaxy or Desire?"
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3 problems there
1: The Desire comes with a 4GB removable MicroSD card
2. Swype is an app available on any android phone
3. The Desire films 720p quite well.

You forgot this one:
HTC Desire--------------------------Samsung Galaxy S
-Has GPS (+)-----------------------Does not have GPS (-)
FYI, I own the Galaxy S 16GB, which I will be returning this week due to the pathetic GPS performance. Not sure if I'll get the Desire or just wait for units coming out next winter.

If you want a phone that looks like an i-phone but is not an i-phone get the samsung. If you want something different get the desire. I-phone is like a public/pay phone here in singapore out of 10 people at least 5 are i-phones

The galaxy has no GPS?!?! that would be a deal breaker for me there. No GPS, means no Google Navigation!

Course it has gps it advertises Google navigation on the UK galaxy s advert.

No but it's GPS module is bad enough to be useless. Remember the Nokia N95 and other early GPS phones with their 5 minutes lock time? That's it x 10

ah right I see... I understand now. Yeah, the 2.1 on Desire used to lock satellites from cold in about 3 to 10 seconds (with assisted network help etc). It can now take 30seconds, or 2 or 3 minutes sometimes since 2.2. update strange. That is obviously software issue. I just read on couple of websites that its not determined if the samsung galaxy GPS (and magneto compass) issues are hardware or software issues... hmmm...

one reason i'm not getting galaxy s is that it looks too much like an iphone. but i do think the superior processor is an advantage against the desire.

sckc23 said:
one reason i'm not getting galaxy s is that it looks too much like an iphone. but i do think the superior processor is an advantage against the desire.
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They're both 1 GHz, albeit different types. Very little difference.

Definitely go with the Desire. I have had mine for a week and I love it!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

TudorEm said:
Hello! I have a big problem : I cannot decide between Samsung Galaxy S i9000 and HTC Desire/Bravo. I must mention that I am a multimedia user and I want any of these phones for Games, Music, Movies and Web Browsing. I have a Wi-Fi network at home. So I made a list with key features of these two phones, especially the differences.
HTC Desire--------------------------Samsung Galaxy S
-576 MB RAM (+)-----------------------512 MB RAM (-)
-512 MB ROM (-)------------------------2 GB ROM (+)
-256 MB memory (-)---------------------8 GB memory (+)
-LED Flash on Camera (+)----------------NO (-)
-AMOLED 3.7 inches (-)------------------Super AMOLED 4.0 inches (+)
-SENSE UI which I really like (+)----------Touchwiz 3.0 which is ok, but not the best (-)
-NO Swype (-)--------------------------Swype (+)
-feeble speaker (-)----------------------really nice loudspeaker (+)
-11.9 mm thick (-)----------------------- 9.9 mm thick (+)
- 135 g (-)------------------------------ 119 g (+)
- NOT filming HD (-)--------------------- filming HD (+)
- 1400 mAh battery (-)------------------1500 mAh battery (+)
- bluetooth 2.0 (-)---------------------- bluetooth 3.0 (+)
I would also consider the fact that Desire has Froyo (Android 2.2), but I believe it is unecessary, as Galaxy will receive FroYo within 2 months.
So, Desire has 3 "+"s, while Galaxy has the rest of 10 "+"s. This means that I should clearly get Samsung's Galaxy, but I am not very experienced about these phones and I might've mistaken something, so please correct me or give me some additional information.
The question remains available : "Galaxy or Desire?"
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I dont believe desire have 576mb RAM. They just announce display memory as a ram (512mb ram+64mb display adapter memory), just like in diamond and 192mb ram when it really was 128mbi.

Ah...Both phones are great, you can't make mistake by choosing any of these ...

Godinster said:
They're both 1 GHz, albeit different types. Very little difference.
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But Snapdragons' Adreno perform much worse than PowerVR SGX in Hummingbird, making the galaxy s a better gaming device, not to mention the desire/n1 have multitouch bugs.
Still i like the desire a bit more=)

Xiaomi Phone is 1.5GHz dual-core to cost $310..

You guys Probably Didnt have a look at this.. Its even cheaper than our Desire...
The Xiaomi Phone packs stunning amounts of power for its price - a Qualcomm 8260 Snapdragon chipset with a dual-core 1.5GHz CPU, Adreno 220 graphics and 1GB of RAM. The battery packs plenty of juice, 1930mAh to be precise. That should be enough for two days of real life usage (real real life Xiaomi say).
Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_phone_is_15ghz_dualcore_droid_from_china_to_cost_310-news-3007.php

Apparently seems a great phone, especially for the price and the battery (if its not a fake battery )
http://miuiandroid.com/2011/08/mi-one-specifications/
Hardware:
- Unlocked bootloader!
- Android 2.3.5 pre-loaded (MIUI ROM)
- Sharp capacitive 4 inch screen at 480 x 854 res 16:9
- Dual-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon S3 (MSM8260)
- 4GB ROM
- 1GB RAM
- Up to 32GB Micro-SD card support
- 8MP Rear Camera
- Noise-cancelling microphone
- 1930mAH battery! +30% on standard 1500mAH
- GPS (U.S. GPS and Russian GLONASS
- Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n) and Bluetooth connectivity
- 266MHz Adreno220 GPU
- 125 * 63 * 11.9 (mm)
- GSM / WCDMA bands
http://twitter.com/#!/miuiandroid/statuses/103555433054220288
Pre-ordering for MI-ONE (china) from 29th August, Shipping expected mid-September to early October, no word on Worldwide distribution "yet"
In my opinion maybe it's better wait the next generation phones based on Ice Cream Sandwhich (2.4?)

andQlimax said:
In my opinion maybe it's better wait the next generation phones based on Ice Cream Sandwhich (2.4?)
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Ice Cream Sandwich is version 4 and not 2.4. Honeycomb is version 3.

MatDrOiD said:
Ice Cream Sandwich is version 4 and not 2.4. Honeycomb is version 3.
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Yeah i know that honeycomb is 3 lol, but heard also some rumors about 2.4 as Ice Cream..Honeycomb is an exception (tablet only)..But probably u are right..we will see

I am just thinking if its Based on MIUI Roms, then it wont have Official googel Support too?

Woah, this phones pretty amazing for the price! 8mp camera to on it! and a really fast processor on it! 1GB of RAM, 4GB of ROM! Woah. Although my worry is for that price is it all really up to all good quality? Eg like is the camera any good and touchscreen and that.

nice hardware

Yup! I like also the specs but too bad I am waiting for quads not duals...hehehehe...sticking with my current Desire...

Only one shortcoming
If this Phone came with WP7, then I would order one...

amazing
you can get 2.5 xiaomi phones for the price of a galaxy s II with similar specs ( except for a 1.5ghz processor vs 1.2 ghz).. how cool is that?? value for money is definetely an understatement.. I mean even galaxy ace costs more than this beast.. 800 mhz vs 1.5ghz dual core.. that is 800*4=3200.. so nearly 4 times the speed, 4 times the RAM, 8 times the ROM, 1.5 times the battery, 2 times the resolution.. value for money has a new meaning now..

andQlimax said:
In my opinion maybe it's better wait the next generation phones based on Ice Cream Sandwhich (2.4?)
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Why if you can get a hold of this one? It's running miui which is updated to the most reason Android version very quickly. You'll likely get updates faster than anyone else and ics before any phones are released with it.

mortenmhp said:
Why if you can get a hold of this one? It's running miui which is updated to the most reason Android version very quickly. You'll likely get updates faster than anyone else and ics before any phones are released with it.
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Ya, but when ics will come out, new phone with new hardware and new features will appear..also the next google nexus..
Sent from my HTC Desire

nice hardware specs and you can expect regular updates from miui and most probably fast android 2.4 update when it is released

Yeah right. The goodness stops there I persume
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Worried about the quality of the hardware, probably why its so cheap
Sent from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App

I'll buy one if they are made available in the EU but I will hang on to my Desire as well just in case

Personally I'd rather wait for the new Nexus before I make up my mind, which of them two will succeede my good ol' Desire...
Sent from the infinity and beyond...

I do not trust the Chinese

Ewkert said:
I do not trust the Chinese
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What handset do you use now?
Sent from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App

Ewkert said:
I do not trust the Chinese
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90% of everything in ur house is made in china

EVO Design 4G (Boost Mobile) - May 31st - MSM8655 w/ ICS

Looks like the HTC Evo Design 4G is launching (or re-launching, depending on how you look at it) on Boost Mobile, May 31st. This phone uses our chipset / processor - MSM8655 - and will launch with ICS / Sense 3.6.
I believe this is the first phone that uses the same chipset as ours that will have ICS. I'd imagine that an update for ours would also be in tow, as that means HTC has already finished a proper ICS / Sense 3.6 rom for our chipset (albeit different screen resolution, qHD). I'm also thinking that our devs (might?) could use this to build a 3.0 kernel for our phone.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Also of note, Sprint's VP of Product said the Sprint variety of the phone will get ICS in June. http://blogs.computerworld.com/20152/sprint_android_40_htc_evo_3d_htc_evo_design_4g
So that also bodes well for us (not taking into account VZW's suckiness in deploying updates)

dirkdigles said:
Looks like the HTC Evo Design 4G is launching (or re-launching, depending on how you look at it) on Boost Mobile, May 31st. This phone uses our chipset / processor - MSM8655 - and will launch with ICS / Sense 3.6.
I believe this is the first phone that uses the same chipset as ours that will have ICS. I'd imagine that an update for ours would also be in tow, as that means HTC has already finished a proper ICS / Sense 3.6 rom for our chipset (albeit different screen resolution, qHD). I'm also thinking that our devs (might?) could use this to build a 3.0 kernel for our phone.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Also of note, Sprint's VP of Product said the Sprint variety of the phone will get ICS in June. http://blogs.computerworld.com/20152/sprint_android_40_htc_evo_3d_htc_evo_design_4g
So that also bodes well for us (not taking into account VZW's suckiness in deploying updates)
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its possible *something* could come of their kernel source, but who knows
really we will ultimately need our own kernel source (not even our cousin inc s/dhd/desire s source) to build a functional 3.xx kernel with working radio....not that its impossible i guess, but what is actually likely
as for pulling the rom itself, it would have to be resized to scale properly (unless htc included hdpi images in all the apks (unlikely), and if we really wanted sense 3.6 i could have ported it from the sensation xl (didnt seem worth it, since we ll ultimately get our own version at some point, and sense 4 is so much better imo)
but the best take away is what you said: that its good to see htc has ics going on our chipset...which is always a positive

[Q] is One X = XL when rooting, installing rom, etc

Hi,
I plan to buy XL instead of HOX. (I am in Singapore, Singtel offers HOX and XL)
i have 2 questions:
1. Can I apply all the modifications intended for HOX to XL?
2. If no, I dont see any forum for XL, Do you recommend to get HOX instead?

I think XL has LTE, so the ROMs of HOX will not fit and probably rooting is not the same because the XL is in this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1538

The AT&T One X forum is for the phone internationally known as the One XL. The One XL has different hardware and radios, so none of the stuff made for the One X will be compatible.

It was pretty stupid of AT&T (and HTC) to call the AT&T version One X. AT&T One X is clearly a OneXL variant (they are not identical). HTC One X (the global one) is completely different hardware.
So there are 3 phones, 2 very similar (dualcores, AT&T and One XL) and 1 completely diff (quad-core tegra3).
One XL vs AT&T One X(L).
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4614&idPhone2=4572
As per your original question, if modifications are very important to you, do first look in "AT&T One X/OneXL" forum and see how the rom scene looks over there. From rom development standpoint, international OneX is better bet but personal opinion, One XL is better phone (sadly not available here in Norway).

asestar said:
It was pretty stupid of AT&T (and HTC) to call the AT&T version One X. AT&T One X is clearly a OneXL variant (they are not identical).
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One XL released much later, but I agree
There were rumours about XL but I didn't think it would come that fast and would had wait for it.

And its the same story with other phones, like Galaxy S3. AT&T version is a dual-core qualcomm s4 based instead of a quadcore. What the hell is wrong with this carrier?
A few years ago htc/samsung renamed their phones for usa, with different look/exterior but same hardware (desire/droid incredible, hero/eris, sensation/amaze/vivid, galaxy s/vibrant/fascinate etc).
And now they go out of their way to have different hardware that looks identical with exact same name..

Thanks.
I guess I better choose HOX over XL.
4G is new in this area,
and development of XL pretty slow and boring, i think.
I posted same question in AT&T forum, till now nobody reply and give the difference.
I found many active roms developer here.
Roms are lovelier here, and more to choose from.
I read more problems, than fixes and good news over there.

no i dont think so,
both have different specs..
btw is it out yet the XL in singapore?how much did it cost?

I have few clarifications to help me decide if a certain rom (or rooting instruction) is applicable to my phone.
(because I dont know if HOX from ATT is applicable to XL from Singtel.)
Lets say I want to do rooting or install custom rom;
What are the BASIC criteria in order for me to say that this rom (or rooting instruction) is applicable to my phone and it wont brick it (if it may brick it)?
What should I check first?
. cpu type? (dual core, quad core?, S4, tegra? where can I find this specs in my phone)
. Firmware version? (1.72, 1.85, 1.?? How do I check again)
. radio??
AFAIK radio is different between ATT and XL (international),
but is ROM still applicable on both even if radio is different?
What the hell/difference of Rogers HTC one X by the way?
I appreciate the response.

General consensus from reviews on the web say XL or Snapdragon One X are faster than Tegra One Xs and are better at battery life.
Community of the S4 seems growing every day I am sure it will have plenty of development, already it has most of the same tweaks as with Tegra ones.
I also was undecided as both work on my country. However, I decided for the Tegra one due to:
1. Easier bootloader unlocking vs AT&T One X
2. Cheaper than imported Rogers/Telus unlocked One X
3. Tegra Zone games: I am not a gamer but I am enjoying the quality of Tegra games
4. Resale value: yes in my country most people will prefer a QuadCore 32 MB than a Dual Core 16 MB phone . They dont know the story behind it unless they are geeks so resale value will hold over time vs SGS3.

asestar said:
And its the same story with other phones, like Galaxy S3. AT&T version is a dual-core qualcomm s4 based instead of a quadcore. What the hell is wrong with this carrier?
A few years ago htc/samsung renamed their phones for usa, with different look/exterior but same hardware (desire/droid incredible, hero/eris, sensation/amaze/vivid, galaxy s/vibrant/fascinate etc).
And now they go out of their way to have different hardware that looks identical with exact same name..
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AT&T (and every other LTE carrier) has to use dual core s4 versions of CPU because quad core exynos and tegra3 dont support LTE.
They are now using different hardware with exact same names probably to avoid customer confusion and having 10 variants of the same phone.

Furma said:
AT&T (and every other LTE carrier) has to use dual core s4 versions of CPU because quad core exynos and tegra3 dont support LTE.
They are now using different hardware with exact same names probably to avoid customer confusion and having 10 variants of the same phone.
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Excellent point, and yes I believe you are right. However I doubt having 2 different hardwares with same name is any less confusing.

Furma said:
AT&T (and every other LTE carrier) has to use dual core s4 versions of CPU because quad core exynos and tegra3 dont support LTE.
They are now using different hardware with exact same names probably to avoid customer confusion and having 10 variants of the same phone.
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This is true to an extent. I believe tegra does support lte but it requires a separate modem whereas with the s4 the LTE modem is part of the SoC already.
Tbh I would prefer the s4 chip as it rapes the tegra in most benchmarks and battery is better. Htc and nvidia are full of crap, the companion core and all the other "battery saving" tweaks htc implemented (like completely breaking multitasking) are pointless as they just try to make up for the fact htc short changed us with the size of the battery in the HOX. The battery life still sucks.. They should have just put a bigger battery in in the first place a la galaxy s3.. /rant
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After Desire HD ...maybe Goophone N3?

Hi there people,
I have my DHD from Jan 2012 and back then two core phones were quite expensive, now with KitKat android it seems the phone is quite fast but still one core is one core, trying to do multiple things and the phone seems slow. Also if you are in hurry and you want to make a phonecall while having some apps open makes the process SLOWWWWWWWWWWWW
So I'm thinking of upgrading, but some phones cost quite much and I did like the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 spec-wise but I didn't like the price. The best price I could find it in my country is 560Euro + 5Euro(shipping) to my door.
So I though why not buy a clone with the new Chinese 8 core processor(which isn't overheat) and performs quite good(and WAY better than the DHD)?
Price? $259.99(without shipping) or around 190 Euro
From what I see here: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/01/06/goophone-n3-v-s-samsung-note-3-whats-different-on-benchmark/
(Goophone N3 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 3) the difference is about 27.3% which is not much while the performance/price ratio is perfect.
What do you think?
P.S. I'd prefer if the Goophone N3 had many custom roms available but that will come eventually if more and more users are buying this phone. This Chinese 8 core processor is quite new so it will take some time before we'll see any custom rom laying around.

evronetwork said:
Hi there people,
I have my DHD from Jan 2012 and back then two core phones were quite expensive, now with KitKat android it seems the phone is quite fast but still one core is one core, trying to do multiple things and the phone seems slow. Also if you are in hurry and you want to make a phonecall while having some apps open makes the process SLOWWWWWWWWWWWW
So I'm thinking of upgrading, but some phones cost quite much and I did like the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 spec-wise but I didn't like the price. The best price I could find it in my country is 560Euro + 5Euro(shipping) to my door.
So I though why not buy a clone with the new Chinese 8 core processor(which isn't overheat) and performs quite good(and WAY better than the DHD)?
Price? $259.99(without shipping) or around 190 Euro
From what I see here: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/01/06/goophone-n3-v-s-samsung-note-3-whats-different-on-benchmark/
(Goophone N3 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 3) the difference is about 27.3% which is not much while the performance/price ratio is perfect.
What do you think?
P.S. I'd prefer if the Goophone N3 had many custom roms available but that will come eventually if more and more users are buying this phone. This Chinese 8 core processor is quite new so it will take some time before we'll see any custom rom laying around.
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I have been searching the chinese market for quite some time and i found that mediatek (MTK) processors are pretty much closed source, So don't expect to many custom roms exept for some chinese ones like miui/lewa OS. I will probably buy a chinese phone but not one that is powered by a MTK processor but i'm mostly for the oppo find 5 wich has forum here on xda it also has Snapdragon quad core 1.5 Mhz , 13 mp sony camera , nfc ,steel frame , dlna , and the is fully gpl comliant and open source. :victory: . you can take a look at it here
http://europe.oppostyle.com/find-5/9-find-5-midnight.html

bondocel said:
I have been searching the chinese market for quite some time and i found that mediatek (MTK) processors are pretty much closed source, So don't expect to many custom roms exept for some chinese ones like miui/lewa OS. I will probably buy a chinese phone but not one that is powered by a MTK processor but i'm mostly for the oppo find 5 wich has forum here on xda it also has Snapdragon quad core 1.5 Mhz , 13 mp sony camera , nfc ,steel frame , dlna , and the is fully gpl comliant and open source. :victory: . you can take a look at it here
http://europe.oppostyle.com/find-5/9-find-5-midnight.html
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I know about oppo mate, also they will have soon the find 7. But it's not as expensive as it should. I mean you can get a Xiaomi Mi3 with snapdragon 800 at the same price with 64GB on board (300E for 16GB and 350E for 64GB) - the problem is that you can't easily find that
P.S. If cyanogenmod could support MTK processors it would be a real game-changer. Cheap 8 core phone with similar performance as some of the top-line phones.
EDIT: Alternative you can see phones like this "Faea F2 Elite" and the company is working with cyanogenmod to bring some life to the phone. Source: http://www.gizchina.com/2014/01/17/cyanogenmod-faea-f2s-getting-closer/
So if a cyanogenmod version exists(if they complete it), it would be a Chinese phone with MTK cpu and open source android . Based on that I expect CM to roll on many Chinese devices(officially or unofficially)
I've seen the "Alcatel One Touch Idol X+" also know as TLC Idol X+ S960 with a pricetag of 300E (runs at 2GHz 8 core MTK) and performs quite good also it accepts microsd cards(up to 32GB), the only thing is the 2500mAh seems a bit low for a 5" phone but it's quite enough for most of the things. I'm thing it very seriously as I can get it without much hassle.

evronetwork said:
I know about oppo mate, also they will have soon the find 7. But it's not as expensive as it should. I mean you can get a Xiaomi Mi3 with snapdragon 800 at the same price with 64GB on board (300E for 16GB and 350E for 64GB) - the problem is that you can't easily find that
P.S. If cyanogenmod could support MTK processors it would be a real game-changer. Cheap 8 core phone with similar performance as some of the top-line phones.
EDIT: Alternative you can see phones like this "Faea F2 Elite" and the company is working with cyanogenmod to bring some life to the phone. Source: http://www.gizchina.com/2014/01/17/cyanogenmod-faea-f2s-getting-closer/
So if a cyanogenmod version exists(if they complete it), it would be a Chinese phone with MTK cpu and open source android . Based on that I expect CM to roll on many Chinese devices(officially or unofficially)
I've seen the "Alcatel One Touch Idol X+" also know as TLC Idol X+ S960 with a pricetag of 300E (runs at 2GHz 8 core MTK) and performs quite good also it accepts microsd cards(up to 32GB), the only thing is the 2500mAh seems a bit low for a 5" phone but it's quite enough for most of the things. I'm thing it very seriously as I can get it without much hassle.
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For the past year i have been going on and off about buying one of those phones. I probably will but untill i see a fully gpl compliant mtk phone/phablem i's sticking with snapdragon . I want an oppo find 5 because i have played with one for a few days on cm rom and it is magnificent compared to my DHD. And it ships from EU warehouse so no more import taxes. I also liked zopo very much and thl and gionee and the list could go on and on and on :highfive: But frankly i thing we should switch to some of these " no name" phones so that brands like samsung ot htc or lg could lower the prices to a more resonable value . Some devices are pure rip-offs

evronetwork said:
P.S. I'd prefer if the Goophone N3 had many custom roms available but that will come eventually if more and more users are buying this phone. This Chinese 8 core processor is quite new so it will take some time before we'll see any custom rom laying around.
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You can instantly forget any proper support for than knock-off. I would expect some more unexpected drawbacks from it as well.
IMO better go for used proper smartphone, than brand new some hyeagizil.

bondocel said:
For the past year i have been going on and off about buying one of those phones. I probably will but untill i see a fully gpl compliant mtk phone/phablem i's sticking with snapdragon . I want an oppo find 5 because i have played with one for a few days on cm rom and it is magnificent compared to my DHD. And it ships from EU warehouse so no more import taxes. I also liked zopo very much and thl and gionee and the list could go on and on and on :highfive: But frankly i thing we should switch to some of these " no name" phones so that brands like samsung ot htc or lg could lower the prices to a more resonable value . Some devices are pure rip-offs
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Oppo is a great phone but price is not better than any other brand phone. Oppo N1 has a snapdragon 600 at 1.7GHz and costs 449E from their Europe store, it's not exactly a bargain and although you can get it with either CM or colour-something(their os based on android), I hear that there are still lot of bugs
P.S. No 4.4 support ..yet
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You can instantly forget any proper support for than knock-off. I would expect some more unexpected drawbacks from it as well.
IMO better go for used proper smartphone, than brand new some hyeagizil.
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That's the only problem.. the support, the lack of CM roms and if for any reason you have a problem you can turn to no one as the people who have it probably don't don't more than you..

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I've got a mediatek tablet and it's dual core @ 1.5ghz with 1gb ram and it lags worse than any device I've had... At the beginning there was no lag, over time (3 months) it started to happen. The build.prop was modified for any graphical usage to be low density which is how it had no lag...
Before buying anything Chinese make sure the specs are correct (as in do a test) many cheapos are clones of the Chinese device :0
Also before you buy ask the seller for firmware as they are well hidden...
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