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I've noticed recently that there's quite a few people asking how to hide folders on Windows Mobile. There's a few applications out there, but they're either completely overkill (they do a million more things and are therefore massive), or they're not free (or a mixture of the two).
Since I wanted this functionality myself, I decided to write a very simple application to allow me to toggle the hidden state of folders. This application should be considered in beta state, but it works fine for me so far. It's not fancy in the slightest, and I have no plans to make it look anything special, but if I get enough response then I'd put some time aside to "tart it up" a bit.
I'd be grateful if people could let me know of any problems with it. It's targeted for WM 4+ (I have 6.1), using .Net 2.0.
All that aside, I hope some of you do find it useful.
You can download it here...
http://www.johnmolyneux.co.uk/downloads/hidefolders.cab
I was recently informed about a review for this application, which can be found here...
http://mobilityupdate.com/hide-your-folders-on-windows-mobile-using-hidefolders-application/
Thanks for the great review Ella
Cheers,
John.
Hi,
Works well on my Kaiser (See my sig for the rest of my specs).
Nice little app, I use Resco and Total Commander, so I don't have much use for it, but I'll keep the CAB just in case.
I like the loading when you expand the tree rather than loading all folders at the start.
Ta
Dave
Cheers for doing that Dave - I don't know about you, but I'm always relieved when things work for others!
As for the loading when you expand the treeview nodes, I had to add that because it was taking about a minute to start the program, if it was getting the whole directory structure. The Windows folder alone was taking around 40 seconds!
Anyway, thanks again. I appreciate the test and report
Updated to v1.1. I've sorted the folder lists alphabetically, and I've added an about screen, mainly to acknowledge the guy that made the icons I used for the application.
it didn't work. i set a folder in the storage card to hidden mode bt the folder is still visible! when i use file explorer!
i have asus p320
hackerzlab said:
it didn't work. i set a folder in the storage card to hidden mode bt the folder is still visible! when i use file explorer!
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Hi.
It sounds to me like you've got 'Show all files' enabled. In File Explorer, go to Menu and make sure 'Show all files' is unchecked.
Cheers.
hide folder working fine
working great in htc 3450...
but make sure in file explorer u unchecked show all files....[]
Work well on Xperia, thanks
Great piece of app. Really appreciated. You need to uncheck "show all files" & you will have your files hidden. But the problem I faced is mainly with the Touch commander 2.51 which doesn't have any of this option. I tried this on Resco explorer & files were hidden. So overall w/o touch commander it worked like charm.
Just an humble suggestion John
WHy don't you create an app that could lock files, I mean that could just rename them with ascii letters which can't be opened unless provided password[which would rename the folder again.] I have searched for this kind of app but couldn't find one so your release would be a hit with this function. Thanks allover.
Regards
Saksham Katyal
hidefolders review:
http://mobilityupdate.com/hide-your-folders-on-windows-mobile-using-hidefolders-application/
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working great in htc 3450...
but make sure in file explorer u unchecked show all files....[]
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Yeah but still doesnt work successfully. if you use a photo viewing program like resco photo viewer hidden files are still viewable. SKB mobile safety suite locks well, cant see it but takes forever with large files and you need alot of phone memory.
Im sure someone must have a program that has the best of both worlds???
How do i use it???
Hello and thanks for the cab....How do i hide a folder in Htc hd?The program just lets me go through the paths and when i find the folder i want to hide it has to options ...on the left "about" on the right "exit" It does't says anywhere menu or hide.....Any succestions?
Thank you in advance.
johncmolyneux said:
I'd be grateful if people could let me know of any problems with it. It's targeted for WM 4+ (I have 6.1), using .Net 2.0.
All that aside, I hope some of you do find it useful.
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thanks 4 the app!
works great on ipaq 600
if it is not to hard can you make the app popup as a combination of hardware keys?
2 make it simple one can select from predefined combination
like: key1&key4 ,key1&key2…. (from settings/buttons)
or if it is not to hard adding read key combination option (in the app settings)
anyway thanks
Edit: to not let it woke in the background the combination will be entered after taping the apps icon (the apps icon says )
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Hello and thanks for the cab....How do i hide a folder in Htc hd?The program just lets me go through the paths and when i find the folder i want to hide it has to options ...on the left "about" on the right "exit" It does't says anywhere menu or hide.....Any succestions?
Thank you in advance.
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Found a program called Hide my stuff v3.6, works much better than this one and the SKB. it truly hides files or all files within a folder, no frills so is very fast to hide, unhide, you can even edit or beam files whilst its in a hidden state etc. found it by chance but works very well.
thank you veru much ! I will try that!
appreciating your help . it is working fine for me
Works great on my BlueAngel..thank you man!
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if it is not to hard can you make the app popup as a combination of hardware keys?
2 make it simple one can select from predefined combination
like: key1&key4 ,key1&key2…. (from settings/buttons)
or if it is not to hard adding read key combination option (in the app settings)
anyway thanks
Edit: to not let it woke in the background the combination will be entered after taping the apps icon (the apps icon says )
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works great!! Thanks
and if could add up some function like that, it would be perfect!! Thanks again
You need AEButtons to assign software to hardware keys. I've never used it myself, but lots of people use it very succesfully.
Hope this helps
Im glad to say that the hide folders works great. Does anybody know a way to hide files (not folders) under the My Device for a WinMobile 6.5? I want to do this to clean the screen and not to accidentally delete files.
The only files/folders I want to see when I open File Explorer are:
My Documents
Storage Card
If your like me and like to save things on your phone then this is for you. I found it yesterday and it works fine I now have all my stuff on my HD7.
Open Windows Registry Editor by typing regedit in your start menu
- Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\
- Then go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB (and not the other ControlSet01 or 02 if you have them) and then search for ZuneDriver
- Change ShowInShell from 0 to 1 <- this enable Windows Explorer to show the device when pluged in
- Change PortableDeviceNameSpaceExcludeFromShell from 1 to 0
- Change EnableLegacySupport from 0 to 1 <- this enables Windows Explorer to detect the device
- You can also change EnableDefaultAutoPlaySupport but it didn’t seem to do anything.
Once its done just plug-in your device to your PC. The Zune software will automatically launch as usual and your device will also appear in the Windows explorer
Already posted here
But thanks for the reminder!
your device will also appear in the Windows explorer
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... and nothing more. You can't do anyhting with this tweak
And you need Zune...
PS: Good to see you MonteCristoff
It works, but a bit complicated.
Once you have changed the Registry you plug in your phone.
You have to open Zune, wait until the software found the phone and then close it again.
Only then the Folders (Music, Video & Pictures) can be accessed via Windows Explorer.
Would be nice if one did not have to use Zune although this keeps your files a bit more secure.
Worked like a charm, thanks!
No, not useful. Need to install too much on a host computer so not useful in most public places.
silvaros said:
Worked like a charm, thanks!
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Well now it's not showing up in explorer or being recognized by Zune..
htc12345 said:
No, not useful. Need to install too much on a host computer so not useful in most public places.
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agree...
Sent from my HD7 using DeepShining v6.5
Hey, I tired this on a Radar and it did not work. Any suggestions?
can i send file to my device so it is readable by my windows phone??
can i send file to my device so it is readable by my windows phone??
EloyChristopher said:
Hey, I tired this on a Radar and it did not work. Any suggestions?
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You are correct, and there is no incentive for wp to treat sdcards like the rest of the world anytime soon. Sorry.
this is no real solution for me, windows should make something better than this..
xhirschix said:
this is no real solution for me, windows should make something better than this..
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This has been the case since wp was released, and was never promised anything different.
Alternative Storage Method
If only someone developed an app that allowed the creation of a special folder within WP7 for data storage, and have a direct-executable program for Windows that would connect to that folder with some protocol, even if it had to be Wifi or bluetooth, then this would give us the storage system we want.
Hello XDA Community,
@DEVELOPERS: I need some developers with other devices to make things (at least parts of advanced explorer) work on other devices (i have a htd hd7). !Programming & Testing!
Please PM me
To bring all together what xda achieved for WP7, i wrote a helper app for the following tasks,
- File management
- Registry management
- Copy files from desktop to phone
- Copy files from phone to desktop
- Set max unsigned apps
- Provision any given XML
If you post in this thread how any of those features could be implemented on other devices, i will maybe implement them. You can always send me a modified version and i will maybe update this post with the new version!
Usage/(Release-)Notes on the website!
If you encounter any errors, or wanna give some feedback => just leave a post here or use the idea page or write me an email (go to contact on the homepage)!
I included the source code, so that anybody can modify it at will but do not use anything here for commercial purposes (contact me first).
Homepage for this project:
http://sites.google.com/site/yaafdevelopers/projects/advanced-explorer-for-wp7
You can give feedback / bugreports:
http://advancedexplorerwp7.codeplex.com/
(Go to Discussion or Issue Tracker)
You will find the latest version and the Release-Notes there. I will continue to watch this thread!
Because some people asked how to support/donate me:
I appreciate every donation! Thank you!
reddragon
He that is great stff... i am glad you added the source i was thinking about how this could work having had a little peek at the code in the samples that Ms provided.
wings over a thanks too
Question...If you send a file, where does the device dump it into the computer? I was getting an error sending the file to my computer at first, but then I configured correctly and it sends fine, but I don't know where it is...
Edit: Nevermind, I got it. Upload/Download Root folders. Good work on this app man. Pretty nifty. Uploaded a .doc from my laptop to the phone, copy/pasted it into My Docs and it appeared and opened on MS Office Word perfectly.
nice ! but ...
Nice app !
But can't send from \windows directory ?..
Re: can't send from \windows
Hey,
like i said in my first post i brought together what was achieved...
Im using the HTC app COM dll files for file system access. Actually you can send files from \windows but not all. (in usage or no access)...
If somebody knows a better way, or something for other devices => just implement and send it, or post here!
The problem: Now it works on my device, so I can do what i wanted to do (coping .pdf and other stuff on the wp7) I have not the time to search & wait for other devices.
I tried to code it very generic and emulated the System.IO namespace, so everybody can add his results or replace it with better results.
Just contact me and I will check the code and update the first post.
reddragon93
eternalemb said:
Question...If you send a file, where does the device dump it into the computer? I was getting an error sending the file to my computer at first, but then I configured correctly and it sends fine, but I don't know where it is...
Edit: Nevermind, I got it. Upload/Download Root folders. Good work on this app man. Pretty nifty. Uploaded a .doc from my laptop to the phone, copy/pasted it into My Docs and it appeared and opened on MS Office Word perfectly.
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actually you can double tab any file and it should open from any folder.
To get PDF working I copy the file to the PDF reader (most likely the app will crash if Adobe reader is not installed), but you will not see anything as PDF reader just pops up with the file
Just like always contact me if there are file types missing!
cool app, ty
how long did it take?
hi reddragon93, thank you for your work, i've an lg optimus 7, is there an eta for explorer for other device?
i need it!!!
thank you so much!
gianlucarugby said:
hi reddragon93, thank you for your work, i've an lg optimus 7, is there an eta for explorer for other device?
i need it!!!
thank you so much!
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I really can understand you because I needed this for myself (that's why I coded it in the first place)
But the answer is NO, because we have to wait until somebody finds a way to get access on other devices and shares the info (i will observe this thread for new infos).
And by the way you should not ask for ETA in developer forum (forum rules), but it's OK for me. Hope you will be the only one after my answer
I answered this question in my first post:
"If you post in this thread how any of those features could be implemented on other devices, i will maybe implement them"
Hope I answered your question.
reddragon
thanks, you were very kind,
apologize me for the ETA, i did not know, i'm just a student not a developer!
good work!
EDIT: I can't figure out how to mark a post as useful yet, so let me just say THANK YOU!!!
Awesome app. However, there are a few things that would be nice in terms of file types:
Any chance of getting support for loading .mobi files (Kindle ebooks)? I'd love to be able to sideload books that aren't in the Amazon store.
Currently, .log files won't open. Copy/renaming them to .txt should work, or a simple text reader/editor could be built-in.
Possible bug: the "Max unsigned apps" field in Settings is showing "Not set - (can't read from registry)" Setting it from within the app seems to work, though (and be remembered).
Feature request: ability to search the registry
Small change request: pressing Back on an Exception could do the same as OK (rather than exiting).
Overally, much thanks for an awesome tool!
Thanks for feedback
GoodDayToDie said:
EDIT: I can't figure out how to mark a post as useful yet, so let me just say THANK YOU!!!
Awesome app. However, there are a few things that would be nice in terms of file types:
Any chance of getting support for loading .mobi files (Kindle ebooks)? I'd love to be able to sideload books that aren't in the Amazon store.
Currently, .log files won't open. Copy/renaming them to .txt should work, or a simple text reader/editor could be built-in.
Possible bug: the "Max unsigned apps" field in Settings is showing "Not set - (can't read from registry)" Setting it from within the app seems to work, though (and be remembered).
Feature request: ability to search the registry
Small change request: pressing Back on an Exception could do the same as OK (rather than exiting).
Overally, much thanks for an awesome tool!
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Thanks for your feedback!
(1) I really needed the app for myself (real pdf support) so... The Thanks Button is only visible with 5+ Posts
(2) i will pm you maybe if i find some spare time. This is most likely pretty simple to implement. Can you edit your (or create a new) post and describe what happens if you double tab a kindle book with the current version?
(3) yeah i saw this before but didn't thought it is important enough to implement. I don't have the time for the own Editor (you have to handle really big files for example) but i can do the renaming thing behind the scenes (remember renaming = copy+delete until a better solution is found).
(4) on first app start i have really no solution in determining how the value is set (no access on this key). So my solution was to set this text ("Not set - (can't read from registry)" until you set a value => then i save this value local to the app, and set it every time the app starts (It gets reset every time i connect the device to the PC anyway)
(5) "search the registry": I thought on this one... But this will not be of much use as we have not really much read access
NOTE: The Problem with the registry is that we have FULL WRITE access trough the provxml method but not very much READ access (HTC COM .dll)
(6) really? I'm satisfied with the current behavior. Without searching I don't know if this is a small change maybe it is, maybe not. At least it looks like one but that doesn't mean anything
reddragon
Thanks for the response, reddragon. I'm at work right now, so the .mobi thing will have to wait. It's a very common request among WP7 users around here, though.
I've found that selecting the Edit context item will open any file in Word, which is typically sufficient for viewing and even editing purposes! True plain text files open fine regardless of extension, and even binary files will usually have enough ASCII in them to determine useful info. You can also send any file (via email) from Word, if you want to email an attachment rather than just transfer to a PC.
Unfortunately, I've found that XML files just... don't work. Double-clicking them opens IE, which complains that it can't handle that file type. Selecting Edit on them looks like it's opening some Office app, but the app then closes and drops back into Advanced Explorer (no error). This is the currently problematic filetype, as a *lot* of data is stored in XML.
The "Registry Editor" app already provides registry search (and despite the security restrictions on read it *mostly* works) but without system copy-paste it's tricky moving data between apps. I enjoy being able to pan between the FS and registry... hell, I want a Windows (desktop) app that does this, now.
It looks like there's FS search (an option on the command bar, and a text box that appears) but I can't get it to do anything. Pressing Enter has no effect, tapping either Refresh or Search again just reloads the page. Am I using this right? It would be great to be able to either scroll long folders (\Windows) or find a filename behind a bunch of GUIDs.
Some files show as "0 b" size, even though they almost certainly aren't. Is that just because some program has an exclusive lock on them and their size can't be read in that state?
Any chance of the ability to create folders in the GUI (I think I see how to do it with provxml files, but that's not exactly convenient)?
Thanks for the explanations on the registry. I was wondering how you could write to locations that you can't read from... Also, I didn't know the sideload limit resets itself. That's something I'll have to watch out for, as I'm near the nominal sideload limit already. Hmm... maybe I should look into writing an app that lets the phone install a .XAP directly, to minimize the amount of PC connecting that's needed.
Sorry, I know that's a lot of comments and questions. If it helps, I showed this to a couple of other HD7 owners today, and the immediate response of both of them was "I've got to get that!" This is a great app, super-convenient and good for making the occasional Samsung Focus owner jealous ;-D
Actually, I'm a developer myself (mostly C/C++, but I know C#). I'll crack a look at the source when I get a chance (probably this weekend) but would you be interested in a patch if there's something I can improve? One thing I might add is an optional "Did you mean that?" prompt on the Back button, as it's a little too easy to hit and knock you clear out of the app (optional of course, as I understand some people don't have such problems).
Thanks again!
does anyone know the latest ETA on compatibility for samsung devices?
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GoodDayToDie said:
Thanks for the response, reddragon. I'm at work right now, so the .mobi thing will have to wait. It's a very common request among WP7 users around here, though.
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Like I said: I will pm you most likely, today or this weekend.
GoodDayToDie said:
I've found that selecting the Edit context item will open any file in Word, which is typically sufficient for viewing and even editing purposes! True plain text files open fine regardless of extension, and even binary files will usually have enough ASCII in them to determine useful info. You can also send any file (via email) from Word, if you want to email an attachment rather than just transfer to a PC.
Unfortunately, I've found that XML files just... don't work. Double-clicking them opens IE, which complains that it can't handle that file type. Selecting Edit on them looks like it's opening some Office app, but the app then closes and drops back into Advanced Explorer (no error). This is the currently problematic filetype, as a *lot* of data is stored in XML.
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Yeah the best way to handle the edit mode would be an editor inside the app, but that's quite some work i guess... So if somebody is willing to write such a control just contact me!
But the current workaround is quite simple: Upload your file, edit it with the powerful editors you know and send it back to the phone...
In fact what i did was send the complete windows/applications folder and all files that where successfully send can be edited (on the others you have no access anyway).
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The "Registry Editor" app already provides registry search (and despite the security restrictions on read it *mostly* works) but without system copy-paste it's tricky moving data between apps. I enjoy being able to pan between the FS and registry... hell, I want a Windows (desktop) app that does this, now.
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Well I think it's not that difficult to implement a search for registry. It's funny to say that all the time but I thought on this one too and if you look on the source code you will see that i positioned the search/filter text box out of the explorer pivot to use it for registry search or other purposes. If you find it really that useful with the current read restrictions... yeah I should just implement it...
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It looks like there's FS search (an option on the command bar, and a text box that appears) but I can't get it to do anything. Pressing Enter has no effect, tapping either Refresh or Search again just reloads the page. Am I using this right? It would be great to be able to either scroll long folders (\Windows) or find a filename behind a bunch of GUIDs.
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In fact this is a filter function so that large folders can be loaded much faster. Just enter "a*" and make the keyboard disappear (tab anywhere else) and you see only the files/folders starting with "a". I don't know why "enter" on keyboard doesn't do anything, I will look into this. I should update the usage in my first post, thanks.
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Some files show as "0 b" size, even though they almost certainly aren't. Is that just because some program has an exclusive lock on them and their size can't be read in that state?
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yep.
From the htc COM call i get 0 bytes....
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Any chance of the ability to create folders in the GUI (I think I see how to do it with provxml files, but that's not exactly convenient)?
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Hehe, i thought on this one too as it is already implemented (just create a folder in UploadRoot drop a file and start downloading it to the phone => the folder gets created). I will look into this.
Can you (or anybody) provide me with an example on how to rename a folder via provxml. And in Yaaf.WP7.NativeAccess.IO.File i have in the "Move" method some code commentated. Can somebody please un-comment, debug and tell me why the hell this provision-xml is invalid / not working, thanks.
(ProvisionXml is completely new to me as this is my first smartphone)
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Thanks for the explanations on the registry. I was wondering how you could write to locations that you can't read from... Also, I didn't know the sideload limit resets itself. That's something I'll have to watch out for, as I'm near the nominal sideload limit already. Hmm... maybe I should look into writing an app that lets the phone install a .XAP directly, to minimize the amount of PC connecting that's needed.
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I didn't look into that but i think it is not enough to simply create the guid folder and drop content there... Anyway you can use the "NativeAccess" Projekt to get all the access i used in the Explorer. But you have to create links from your main projekt to the COM-dlls so they get included into the xap file.
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Sorry, I know that's a lot of comments and questions. If it helps, I showed this to a couple of other HD7 owners today, and the immediate response of both of them was "I've got to get that!" This is a great app, super-convenient and good for making the occasional Samsung Focus owner jealous ;-D
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That's what keeping me up i guess
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Actually, I'm a developer myself (mostly C/C++, but I know C#). I'll crack a look at the source when I get a chance (probably this weekend) but would you be interested in a patch if there's something I can improve? One thing I might add is an optional "Did you mean that?" prompt on the Back button, as it's a little too easy to hit and knock you clear out of the app (optional of course, as I understand some people don't have such problems).
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I'm always interested in any patch especially support for other devices (I have a htc so I can't debug stuff for other devices :/ )
Yeah there could be an option for that. It's pretty easy to implement so... But i don't have this problem so i didn't realised that one.
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Thanks again!
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Thank you for your feedback
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does anyone know the latest ETA on compatibility for samsung devices?
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Well I answered this on the first page of the thread already, thanks.
EDIT: I updated the program and my first post and implemented some of your feature requests
reddragon
Configuration Service Provider Reference for Windows Mobile Devices
Have you used the forum-search? You'll find a post which describes you how to get these books to your phone (it's by me). I can't give you the link because I send this from my HD7.
really great app. Also like the pc<->phone feature
I use it now very often, so I think it needs:
-2 Filebrowser Tabs
-or an option to "bookmark" certain folders
diboze said:
really great app. Also like the pc<->phone feature
I use it now very often, so I think it needs:
-2 Filebrowser Tabs
-or an option to "bookmark" certain folders
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I talked to other people, at first this feature looks awesome, but after some time you would see that you don't use 2 tabs!
The bookmarking thing is a good idea...
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Have you used the forum-search? You'll find a post which describes you how to get these books to your phone (it's by me). I can't give you the link because I send this from my HD7.
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I'm looking into amazon kindle... what i can do for sure is copy the file into the kindle folder and start amazon kindle...
But i forgot how to start a program via app-guid. I remember that i saw an COM.dll which can do that.
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Configuration Service Provider Reference for Windows Mobile Devices
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i know that link but i don't see how you can move folders (if it is possible)
reddragon
Love the update! Thanks for cluing me in on the workings of the filter; I wasn't trying wildcards and it therefore looked like it was always empty.
That said, a bug report (reproed on the older version too):
Registry manual mode can crash with a System.ArgumentException "Invalid fullpath".
Start Advanced Explorer
Pan to Registry
Tap "edit manual"
Observe exception
App crashes on hitting OK
is there any hope of us getting a official File Manager? they said they werent going to allow a file manager but they said the same thing about multitasking and now they're allowing that has any thing been said about the possibility of them adding a file manager? and downloading mp3's and things from the web? they can limit the access to the file system if they wanted so i dont see the big deal about allowing us to have a file explorer
i know touch xplorer is out there but will there be a official one from microsoft? has anybody used touch xplorer? how is it compared to the old windows mobile file explorer?
I doubt it. And it isn't a task manager per se...more of an app switcher, so far as I can tell you can't kill the app from there. And I believe the multi-tasking is still iOS-esque in the sense that it tombstones still (except some apps are allowed to petition for run in the background [i.e. music apps]) and just restarts the app, but it does it much faster now.
I really don't understand this. If you want all that, go get an Android device. Wp7 is good because it's so lean and -easy-. Not that I mean that file managers aret hard to use. But I don't care to look at my files in a big list in a folder. Honestly, what's the point? I use my phone quickly, I put it back in my pocket. There are no apps taking up battery life or memory. For f**k's sake, stop with this ****.
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is there any hope of us getting a official File Manager? they said they werent going to allow a file manager but they said the same thing about multitasking and now they're allowing that has any thing been said about the possibility of them adding a file manager? and downloading mp3's and things from the web? they can limit the access to the file system if they wanted so i dont see the big deal about allowing us to have a file explorer
i know touch xplorer is out there but will there be a official one from microsoft? has anybody used touch xplorer? how is it compared to the old windows mobile file explorer?
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Not likely at all. A file explorer would open up the system to manipulation and allow things to be added that could compromise the integrity of the system. The multi-task'er won't harm the system and will be one of the best there is.
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Not likely at all. A file explorer would open up the system to manipulation and allow things to be added that could compromise the integrity of the system. The multi-task'er won't harm the system and will be one of the best there is.
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I agree, that is the best reason why file managers would not be implemented. However, I think with Nokia's entrance in WP7 scene and considering their stance on closed & limited use of phones, we are likely to see a few things "enabled" at least on the developer side.
They never said there wouldn't be multitasking, they merely said they hadn't worked out a way to do it they were happy with. It's always been a 'coming soon' feature.
I doubt we'll get a 'File Explorer' in the way you want it, but I can see in future more freedom in adding/removing music, photos and videos. I can see you being able to download things through the web browser to the appropriate hub (provided the phone recognises the content type). I also think at some point they will allow you to load files into 3rd party apps storage areas, for example the Adobe Reader.
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I really don't understand this. If you want all that, go get an Android device. Wp7 is good because it's so lean and -easy-. Not that I mean that file managers aret hard to use. But I don't care to look at my files in a big list in a folder. Honestly, what's the point? I use my phone quickly, I put it back in my pocket. There are no apps taking up battery life or memory. For f**k's sake, stop with this ****.
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if that's all you use your phone for why are you even on xda?
MartyLK said:
Not likely at all. A file explorer would open up the system to manipulation and allow things to be added that could compromise the integrity of the system. The multi-task'er won't harm the system and will be one of the best there is.
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compromise the integrity of the system, how ? by adding, moving, deleting .... files ? crap man, that's what computers are for is file manipulation !
a task manager will harm the system (or battery life mostly) more than a filer would ever dream. messing with already -really- nicely done scheduling is osmething that doesn't need to be done. ever.
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Good grief. Look people if you don't understand what files are you shouldn't be posting about them.
Files store information in a structured way.
Sometimes this information is intended for use with only one program. E.g. files storing user settings. It is best for these files to be isolated for use only by this program.
Sometimes this information is in a standard format, usable by any program. E.g. mp3, jpeg, rtf, html, wmv or most files you know about. These files should be usable to any program, with restrictions by user only.
WP7 is an irredemably flawed system until it has this ability.
Once it is there anyone can write a file manager. Microsoft doesn't need to provide one.
Once you have a file browser, you need to have assoiations so you can open files with applications. This opens a whole new world.
Personally, I would love have a section of the memory on WP7 device to use as a USB drive, just so you can view your files on the device (music, Videos, word/execl docs, etc) and have a explorer just for those files. The OS would not get touched and everyone is happy.
MS did not say they are not going to allow Multi-tasking, it's just not added yet.
orangekid said:
if that's all you use your phone for why are you even on xda?
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Well that's not all I use it for. I also use it for company email, hotmail, games, music/radio apps, etc. But the point is I like it's simplicity and ease of use. You put it away and it's good to go. There's no making sure you have to close apps, etc.
As for why I'm on here, I joined a long time ago for windows mobile, and of course got awesome awesome apps and tweaks here. And when I got a wp7, I just came here to talk about it, since I love it. I don't think being a genius developer is a prerequisite of being here?
I think personally that the people who are clamouring for a file manager have completely missed the whole point of Windows Phone.
The point is, you don't NEED a file manager, because your files are managed for you.
If your life is incomplete without a file manager,
A) Get out more
or
B) Get an Android phone
Jim Coleman said:
I think personally that the people who are clamouring for a file manager have completely missed the whole point of Windows Phone.
The point is, you don't NEED a file manager, because your files are managed for you.
If your life is incomplete without a file manager,
A) Get out more
or
B) Get an Android phone
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but if your downloading something like a .rar file or a zip file u cant move it where u want or anything. On my windows mobile i download music and other files in rar and zip folders all the time, and add it to my library and update it all the time without the use of a computer and this is what worries me the most about wp7
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but if your downloading something like a .rar file or a zip file u cant move it where u want or anything. On my windows mobile i download music and other files in rar and zip folders all the time, and add it to my library and update it all the time without the use of a computer and this is what worries me the most about wp7
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His point is that you shouldn't need to move it. A file should be associated with a program and it should reside in that program's memory space.
The whole File Manager aspect is archaic in a lot of respects. You shouldn't need to move it, you shouldn't need to extract the zip, you shouldn't need to add it to your library - it should be done for you.
I think the a appropriate request would be for Microsoft to allow 3rd parties to associate file types to their software - although this opens the system up to malicious softwares, it would allow developers to be much more creative.
Don't complain just because it isn't done the way you're used to - remember, this is no longer Windows Mobile
....is this what you are looking for?
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2011/03/01/windows-phone-device-manager-video-preview.html#more-18329
FTC
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but if your downloading something like a .rar file or a zip file u cant move it where u want or anything. On my windows mobile i download music and other files in rar and zip folders all the time, and add it to my library and update it all the time without the use of a computer and this is what worries me the most about wp7
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Such a scenario is not supported with WP7 now and probably never will be if MS sticks to their design principles with WP7. If such functionality is vital to you its probably best to consider another smartphone OS as WP7 will not be suitable for your needs.
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His point is that you shouldn't need to move it. A file should be associated with a program and it should reside in that program's memory space.
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And it's completely wrong. Only internal files that are understandable only to that application should reside in the applications isolated storage.
Actually his point was that Big Brother is looking after your files, and has chosen how they should be accessed; anyone who wants to do things differently should question whether he is a normal person.
The whole File Manager aspect is archaic in a lot of respects. You shouldn't need to move it, you shouldn't need to extract the zip, you shouldn't need to add it to your library - it should be done for you.
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One reason is that folders are used for organization.
I think the a appropriate request would be for Microsoft to allow 3rd parties to associate file types to their software
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That is great, and it assumes that there are files independent of applications. That is the key point and it's what I'm arguing for.
although this opens the system up to malicious softwares, it would allow developers to be much more creative.
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Yes, it allows more things. There is no security risk however as only applications do things. Files don't do things. Applications can still be sandboxed (within silverlight) and access files. Of course a malicious application might delete files in common storage, but there are various ways of protecting against this, and it's an infinitessimal risk in practice.
DavidinCT said:
Once you have a file browser, you need to have assoiations so you can open files with applications. This opens a whole new world.
Personally, I would love have a section of the memory on WP7 device to use as a USB drive, just so you can view your files on the device (music, Videos, word/execl docs, etc) and have a explorer just for those files. The OS would not get touched and everyone is happy.
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Agreed.
Emailing Documents is a pain in the arse.
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His point is that you shouldn't need to move it. A file should be associated with a program and it should reside in that program's memory space.
The whole File Manager aspect is archaic in a lot of respects. You shouldn't need to move it, you shouldn't need to extract the zip, you shouldn't need to add it to your library - it should be done for you.
I think the a appropriate request would be for Microsoft to allow 3rd parties to associate file types to their software - although this opens the system up to malicious softwares, it would allow developers to be much more creative.
Don't complain just because it isn't done the way you're used to - remember, this is no longer Windows Mobile
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so by this logic then they should be able to make a pocketrar app and have it available in the marketplace then correct? is it too far fetched for a app like that to be made?
Some of you may have seen it on youtube/google/tech-sites, but i just wanted to show you guys how to disable this new "Metro", to be able to see the original "taskbar" as seen in Windows 7 (so you don't need to put effort into finding how to disable it)
Its as simple as making a Registry (regedit.exe) change.
This hack need's to be performed on each user (if u have multiple users under Win8), due the "HKEY" is "Current user".
Method 1:
Manual set:
Start "regedit.exe"
Navigate to: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
- Set RPEnabled to "dword" value "0" (zero)
Method 2:
Auto set (DISABLE Metro) (save as ".reg" file):
Code:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
"RPEnabled"=dword:0
Auto set (ENABLE (default)):
Code:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
"RPEnabled"=dword:1
Method 3:
CMD set (DISABLE Metro):
Code:
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer /f /v RPEnabled /t REG_DWORD /d 0
CMD set (ENABLE (default)):
Code:
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer /f /v RPEnabled /t REG_DWORD /d 1
Method 4: (as ref posted by agnard):
>Administrator mode needed
CMD set (DISABLE Metro):
Code:
ren \Windows\System32\shsxs.dll shsxs_disable.dll
CMD set (ENABLE (default)):
Code:
ren \Windows\System32\shsxs_disable.dll shsxs.dll
> Last but not least, restart Win8.
- Oh, and i almost forgot: FIRST THREAD @ dev & hack!!
lol
But why? it's freaking sexy
btw isn't there an executable you can rename in /system32 to disable Metro?
Sexy if you use a tablet, otherwise I think it is useless
Thanks. BTW - the file should be saved as .reg not .bat
i personally like the new metro ui. i hated win8 at first but once i got the hang of it and learned how everything works... lets just say i formatted my hard drive and this is now my daily driver. i havent had any issues. everything works.
I don't really get why there is no normal setting to use the original taskbar layout as default. Working with the metro interface on a 27" desktop pc just feels as unnatural as using media center...
I dont see what you're doing here... there's a normal taskbar in win8 without doing any crazy reg hacks. just click on the desktop tile on the start page.
as far as I can see so far, metro ui is only there to replace the start menu, and some system programs (like control panel, etc.)
Sorry, but I just don't see it becoming popular in corporate environments and on desktops. It's the best interface I've ever seen on tablets though.
Volvados said:
Sorry, but I just don't see it becoming popular in corporate environments and on desktops. It's the best interface I've ever seen on tablets though.
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TOTALLY agree. though i dont know how much of real dev work will take place. Just a bit skeptical
Well this is a developer preview so developers can build their new metro apps.
This isn't meant to be used in offices as a primary productive system. The Metro UI might very well be disableable (is that even a word?) in the RTM.
Lemcott said:
I dont see what you're doing here... there's a normal taskbar in win8 without doing any crazy reg hacks. just click on the desktop tile on the start page.
as far as I can see so far, metro ui is only there to replace the start menu, and some system programs (like control panel, etc.)
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You need this hack to get the windows 7 start button to work like it should so you can quickly navigate your applications, otherwise the start button takes you back to the tile...and right now tiles are basically useless clumsy clutter links to applications...
and why can't you use the mouse to grab and move the tile screen is beyond me..you are forced to use the slide at the bottom of the screen
germanh said:
Thanks. BTW - the file should be saved as .reg not .bat
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Thanks, fixed.
planet_x69 said:
You need this hack to get the windows 7 start button to work like it should so you can quickly navigate your applications, otherwise the start button takes you back to the tile...and right now tiles are basically useless clumsy clutter links to applications...
and why can't you use the mouse to grab and move the tile screen is beyond me..you are forced to use the slide at the bottom of the screen
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Noticed this too. I know its a developer preview, but really m$? No dragging?
the twitter app on mines is not working. does anyone else have this problem? and is there a fix for this?
I think that having the metro UI in the current user is a great thing. That way for personal use you can have the metro UI but when you need mote business oriented use you've got a user profile set with the hack to disable it.
I think its a great preview and I really like it so far. Loving the no new drivers needed thing, unlike my last run'ins with windows x64 dev builds
A easy way to disable the new UI is to change a file in system32 folder:
give the file shsxs.dll in system32 a new name, like shsxs.bac.dll, and restart win8
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A easy way to disable the new UI is to change a file in system32 folder:
give the file shsxs.dll in system32 a new name, like shsxs.bac.dll, and restart win8
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I can confirm that on x64 version
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planet_x69 said:
You need this hack to get the windows 7 start button to work like it should so you can quickly navigate your applications, otherwise the start button takes you back to the tile...and right now tiles are basically useless clumsy clutter links to applications...
and why can't you use the mouse to grab and move the tile screen is beyond me..you are forced to use the slide at the bottom of the screen
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You actually don't need this hack for the feature you are describing.
If you press Start (or are already in the Metro UI), you can just begin typing and you will get a list of apps/settings as you would in the 'old' Start-menu.
Thanks it's great.
nothing like "hacking" the OS instead of learning how to use it properly lol