HTC Universal SIM Unlock - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading

THIS IS NEW Universal Unlocking thread with a SOLUTION.
Previous topic is HERE.
jabberwock said:
But don't forget mamaich and the others...as mentioned..
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of course,
MANY MANY MANY and MANY THANXS to:
mamaich
for his great finding, which makes this come true.
Everyone please praise mamaich!
itsme
for his wonderfull scripts and efforts put into researching
arc
for providing very special tools and interesting stuff
vijay555
for his constant support on anything
and for being my spokesman ))
machinagod
for providing usefull stuff and info
mwang
for donating Universal device to me and other support
and all of you guys for being patient )))
THANX
buzz
PS.: some kind of ehm... 'very special thanks' to v4victory )))
and to other guys, who call us begging muppets
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buzz the man
only one thing i can say....Buzz is the Man!
offcourse the others also!
donate so Buzz can buy a new centrino or something like that!!!!
OK Buzz hope to test the program as soon as possible thanks!!!!

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surinamer123 said:
only one thing i can say....Buzz is the Man!
offcourse the others also!
donate so Buzz can buy a new centrino or something like that!!!!
OK Buzz hope to test the program as soon as possible thanks!!!!
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Agree, have already donated, but a Centrino Duo would be better!

How to donate buzz-team? On His webside?

macpier said:
How to donate buzz-team? On His webside?
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buzzdev.net
There is a donate link on the page.

Centrino ?
Are you guys sure that buzz will buy a new centrino notebook with the donated money rather than spending the money on crack ?
greetz

So....
Just came back on the site and it looks like Buzz and Mamaich have hit the jackpot - however not sure on where in the trail the description of what to do is ? Looked on Buzzdev.net and doesn´t look like it´s there yet.
Buzz - will send you some money via your site when I´m back UK side (in sunny Barcelona right now)...
In the meantime - I have a business contract with Vodafone UK and as I had a German QTEC to unlock they recently offered to unlock a UK Vodafone QTEC free - they couldnt unlock a German one - so in the short term if anyone wants a UK Vodafone QTEC unlocked I´d be happy to try...Private email me if you want it done......FOC - first come first served as I can probs only get this done once.....
Cheers

Do we have a new time & date for release ?, I understand everyone has worked hard to get to this point, what is left to be done ?

Maybe
This is all just some scam to get us to donate (I know I did)...
Noooo just kidding!!!!
Looking forward to actualy use the phone of this unit!
Keep up the good work lads!
May the Schwarz be with you :wink:

If I made a statement that something would be released on a certain day, knowing that I had the whole world waiting for me I would try my best to deliver on time. And if for what ever reason it were late I certainly would not list credits, I would concentrate my efforts to the release and the first post would be a link for people to download.
The above may sound harsh but expectations have been rasied and then dropped which leads to frustration & confusion.

MobileMagic said:
If I made a statement that something would be released on a certain day, knowing that I had the whole world waiting for me I would try my best to deliver on time. And if for what ever reason it were late I certainly would not list credits, I would concentrate my efforts to the release and the first post would be a link for people to download.
The above may sound harsh but expectations have been rasied and then dropped which leads to frustration & confusion.
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Dude, lighten up, we should be grateful for Buzz & Co's efforts, and them keeping us up to date with what's happening! Give them a break (literally!)

Harsh!!, more like getting kicked in the gonads!
Some people here have been working very hard to get you this as freeware, the fact that it was delayed was inevitable due to the incompatibility issues with the laptop of the lead developer, thus, as he has mentioned, he has left it with sombody else to design the front end. Whenever outsourcing a project there are going to be delays due to teething problems. Youve got to remember that everybody involved in the development is a skilled professional who will likely have a mortgage, kids, and thus a job, this restricts the hours available for programming to a few per day, combined with the issue I mentioned above, this is likely to lead to (I would guess) at least a week of delays.
Weve all been patient until now. I know I personnaly would rather they take the time to get it done properly than to rush it and possibly turn all our phones into paperweights.
lets keep being supportive, and im sure they will deliver as soon as they can without putting undue stress on themselves and their families!

Consider how much money Microsoft put into their development, and then tell me the last time they actually reached one of their release targets?

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ai118: thanks for the support!
This release will happen, but given how long you guys have had to wait, I'd ask you to continue waiting quietly for a little while more... Buzz is currently coding this thing on my pc using remote desktop, with a remote connection to my Universal.
Now coding this stuff with the hardware in your hand is hard work, near impossible for most. With it in a different country, with no view or access to the phone - well, I'll leave it to your imagination, but it's not easy.
Now couple that with both of us also getting a bollocking from significant others as well, and you'll realise that when it is released, the code will be liberally splashed with our own blood I'm typing with one hand, crying baby in the other :evil:
It's unfortunate Buzz pre-announced, but he was so overjoyed when the alpha release worked, he couldn't contain himself. You guys try to be a bit calmer then him, m'kay?
It's coming, and it's one hell of an international collaboration. I hope Buzz isn't stealing my porn while he's connected And if he is, well, I was young and needed the money
It'll be days or less, but for any acts of God.
V

FYI, I am very willing to support a 'Core Duo Laptop' for Buzz drive. I am all for it. We can get some great deals in the States, especially on Dells. Of course, it would have to have an international warranty so I guess Dells are out.
I think Buzz deserves a T60p for his efforts
In the meantime, I recommend, as I have done so before that all of us support not just buzzdev.net but this site. Heck, we should even donate a few bucks to Vijay555's site.
And folks who have waited patiently for so long, can wait a bit longer, I am certain. Anyone else who has a problem with the delay can take a hike. No one is compelled to deliver on time here. Everyone does stuff on their own and it's not like they get paid for it so stop your whining and get lost.
Oh, and trexysexy, you are clearly a troll who is jealous of Buzz and mamaich, so please 'buzz off'.

monakh said:
FYI, I am very willing to support a 'Core Duo Laptop' for Buzz drive. I am all for it. We can get some great deals in the States, especially on Dells. Of course, it would have to have an international warranty so I guess Dells are out.
I think Buzz deserves a T60p for his efforts
In the meantime, I recommend, as I have done so before that all of us support not just buzzdev.net but this site. Heck, we should even donate a few bucks to Vijay555's site.
And folks who have waited patiently for so long, can wait a bit longer, I am certain. Anyone else who has a problem with the delay can take a hike. No one is compelled to deliver on time here. Everyone does stuff on their own and it's not like they get paid for it so stop your whining and get lost.
Oh, and trexysexy, you are clearly a troll who is jealous of Buzz and mamaich, so please 'buzz off'.
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monakh said:
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And folks who have waited patiently for so long, can wait a bit longer, I am certain. Anyone else who has a problem with the delay can take a hike. No one is compelled to deliver on time here. Everyone does stuff on their own and it's not like they get paid for it so stop your whining and get lost.
Oh, and trexysexy, you are clearly a troll who is jealous of Buzz and mamaich, so please 'buzz off'.
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Agree.... but how can anybody donate if the paypal option is anavailable?

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and here is the 4th dutchman
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and one from austria

Thanks for all your efforts Buzz, and everyone else who is making this possible.
I suspect those being critical of the delays are nothing more than Ebay scammers who rip people off by advertising an unlocking service for silly amounts of money, and are now about to lose their revenue stream... alternatively, they're people looking to make a quick buck off your hard work.
I've donated an amount equivalent to what I would have been prepared to pay for a commercial service, but I'm shocked by how few other donations there are - certainly not enough to buy a new laptop, sadly. I'd implore anyone reading this thread; if you're going to benefit from an unlocker, then you too should recompense Buzz for his hard work via the Paypal options on his website.

battletank said:
Thanks for all your efforts Buzz, and everyone else who is making this possible.
I suspect those being critical of the delays are nothing more than Ebay scammers who rip people off by advertising an unlocking service for silly amounts of money, and are now about to lose their revenue stream... alternatively, they're people looking to make a quick buck off your hard work.
I've donated an amount equivalent to what I would have been prepared to pay for a commercial service, but I'm shocked by how few other donations there are - certainly not enough to buy a new laptop, sadly. I'd implore anyone reading this thread; if you're going to benefit from an unlocker, then you too should recompense Buzz for his hard work via the Paypal options on his website.
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I live in the Eastern Europe and paypal does not accept members from my part of teh world.... :-(

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Free Sim Unlock For T-Mobile Dash

been reading through all these forums and have not been able to find out a FREE way to unlock a T-Mobile Dash. everyone keeps telling ppl who are asking to read the threads but there's really only 1 thread about unlocking the sim and you have to pay. why is jocky selling something that he isn't paying for? i think he needs to just post the program or the method he is using like has been done for most other phones. i own a touch pro and was able to unlock it very easily using these forums....so whats so special about the dash unlock?
Why is Jocky selling something he isnt paying for? Isnt that what Microsoft does? I guess they should give us Vista for free too (no thanks)
LMFAO, if its that easy why dont you write the program to do the unlock like Jocky did? We could all benefit, true, but so far nobody else has the knowledge and he is much cheaper than the alternative online unlockers.
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Why is Jocky selling something he isnt paying for? Isnt that what Microsoft does? I guess they should give us Vista for free too (no thanks)
LMFAO, if its that easy why dont you write the program to do the unlock like Jocky did? We could all benefit, true, but so far nobody else has the knowledge and he is much cheaper than the alternative online unlockers.
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Totally agree, Jocky provides a service that is cheaper than the alternatives, also a good rep and fast service....
trackhouse1, count your blessings, There is lot information, programs and roms, available here for free! Some guys may ask for a donation, but that is a small price to pay for something you find useful. You can play it safe and pay some this site trusts or shop around and take your chances. I had my daughter's Dash unlocked by someone using JIC Electronics Software, Paid $16 via PP an hour later I had a web site and password. Downloaded the software and connected the Dash. Choose the Dash on the drop down screen, scans the Dash and gives you the unlock code. Granted I took a chance and came out smellin like Rose. Had I found this site before I unlocked the Dash I would have used Jocky's service because his track record. There is no free lunch, so unless you want to change carriers, you have a useless phone that you Paid $$ just to sit there. JMO.
Ajrgonz said:
trackhouse1, count your blessings, There is lot information, programs and roms, available here for free! Some guys may ask for a donation, but that is a small price to pay for something you find useful. You can play it safe and pay some this site trusts or shop around and take your chances. I had my daughter's Dash unlocked by someone using JIC Electronics Software, Paid $16 via PP an hour later I had a web site and password. Downloaded the software and connected the Dash. Choose the Dash on the drop down screen, scans the Dash and gives you the unlock code. Granted I took a chance and came out smellin like Rose. Had I found this site before I unlocked the Dash I would have used Jocky's service because his track record. There is no free lunch, so unless you want to change carriers, you have a useless phone that you Paid $$ just to sit there. JMO.
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the dash is an old phone now...
trackhouse1 said:
the dash is an old phone now...
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And your point is pointless...
Does that mean........
Its Pancake time?
gospeed.racer said:
Does that mean........
Its Pancake time?
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I can offer free sim unlock
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the dash is an old phone now...
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It may well be, but it still kicks A$$ over 80% of the crap thats out on the market now. So if it's old you want to give your Dash for free? lol
stylez said:
I can offer free sim unlock
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Stylez, put it up on ebay you find some takers. lol
trackhouse1 is right. This is not a pay-site, if you read the "about xda-developers.com" you will see that the people who started this site don't even make money off it. I thought that the idea behind forums like xda-devlopers.com is that they are communities where people go to share information, and hopefully work together to solve issues. That jocky dude is coming on to this free forum and trying to capitalize on the fact that he can provide this service that no one else can. Go start an imei-check.com-like website then and let us work together on finding the answer then. Posting how you have a solution but need to get paid for it is counter productive, why look for a solution some one already has? And if its cheaper than going to another web-based service, he comes out looking like a saint. The dude is coming on to a free community and f_cking everyone, including the people who started this site. He says he's accepting donations for unlocking etc., therefore using this site as an advertising medium for his services, but I don't see a star next to his name...meaning he's not donating sh_t! People who continue to give this guy money, people who thank him for what he's doing, are destroying this forum. Its supposed to be the a community based on the free sharing of information and helping other members. So what if Microsoft charges money for Vista, they are a multi-billion dollar corporation that pays a lot of money for their advertising, not some greedy as_hole who is trying to come up on members of a FREE forum.
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trackhouse1 is right. This is not a pay-site, if you read the "about xda-developers.com" you will see that the people who started this site don't even make money off it. I thought that the idea behind forums like xda-devlopers.com is that they are communities where people go to share information, and hopefully work together to solve issues. That jocky dude is coming on to this free forum and trying to capitalize on the fact that he can provide this service that no one else can. Go start an imei-check.com-like website then and let us work together on finding the answer then. Posting how you have a solution but need to get paid for it is counter productive, why look for a solution some one already has? And if its cheaper than going to another web-based service, he comes out looking like a saint. The dude is coming on to a free community and f_cking everyone, including the people who started this site. He says he's accepting donations for unlocking etc., therefore using this site as an advertising medium for his services, but I don't see a star next to his name...meaning he's not donating sh_t! People who continue to give this guy money, people who thank him for what he's doing, are destroying this forum. Its supposed to be the a community based on the free sharing of information and helping other members. So what if Microsoft charges money for Vista, they are a multi-billion dollar corporation that pays a lot of money for their advertising, not some greedy as_hole who is trying to come up on members of a FREE forum.
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I think as a noob you should check what jockyw2001 has braught to XDA and many of the things free, do a bit of research then come out with silly comments....
I stick to my original post about the service etc, etc ,etc...
Definitely go with Jocky he is the best I know.
T-Mobile will give you the unlock code for free. If you did not get the Dash from T-Mobile then pay jocky and quite crying about it.
Membership here is free, but the founders do make money (perhaps not a lot, they just may break even most of the time) why else do you think ads are being displayed? for fun? LMFAO
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trackhouse1 is right. This is not a pay-site, if you read the "about xda-developers.com" you will see that the people who started this site don't even make money off it. I thought that the idea behind forums like xda-devlopers.com is that they are communities where people go to share information, and hopefully work together to solve issues. That jocky dude is coming on to this free forum and trying to capitalize on the fact that he can provide this service that no one else can. Go start an imei-check.com-like website then and let us work together on finding the answer then. Posting how you have a solution but need to get paid for it is counter productive, why look for a solution some one already has? And if its cheaper than going to another web-based service, he comes out looking like a saint. The dude is coming on to a free community and f_cking everyone, including the people who started this site. He says he's accepting donations for unlocking etc., therefore using this site as an advertising medium for his services, but I don't see a star next to his name...meaning he's not donating sh_t! People who continue to give this guy money, people who thank him for what he's doing, are destroying this forum. Its supposed to be the a community based on the free sharing of information and helping other members. So what if Microsoft charges money for Vista, they are a multi-billion dollar corporation that pays a lot of money for their advertising, not some greedy as_hole who is trying to come up on members of a FREE forum.
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Are you for real? I had a Mio c220 a few months ago, it took me 3 months to create a way to unlock the actual windows ce environment, everyone said it could not be done.. did I give it away for free after three months of hard work, you bet your ass I didnt! While I am more then willing to share what I do, create, discover I also have no problem asking for a fee if it required a bit of time and work on my part. See thats called reality Perhaps you could use a dose of it and stop thinking everyone elses hard work should be handed to you on a silver platter
You people are ridiculous. All I was trying to say is that it is f-c-ed up that this guy is using a free forum to advertise his service. If some one from imei-check.com were posting threads with a link to their site, or even worse doing direct sales through this forum, the posts would be deleted for "spamming". Like you said, the owners of this site at least break even from advertising...meaning that companies pay to advertise on this site. Jocky doesn't even have a star next to his name, he hasn't paid the owners sh_t! Who needs to do their research?? I am well aware of how much this jocky dude has done to help people on this site. Most of the time its with info they could find by google searching, though. I may be a "noob" to this site, if that's an issue then don't read what I have to say. I was just trying to unlock this stupid dash as a favor for a friend anyway. But they got a better phone, so I could actually care less about getting the unlock code for myself. I just feel like this jocky is a greedy mutherf-cker. Do your f-cking research...he's making a lot of money, and not even paying to advertise like all the other companies have to do.
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You people are ridiculous. All I was trying to say is that it is f-c-ed up that this guy is using a free forum to advertise his service. If some one from imei-check.com were posting threads with a link to their site, or even worse doing direct sales through this forum, the posts would be deleted for "spamming". Like you said, the owners of this site at least break even from advertising...meaning that companies pay to advertise on this site. Jocky doesn't even have a star next to his name, he hasn't paid the owners sh_t! Who needs to do their research?? I am well aware of how much this jocky dude has done to help people on this site. Most of the time its with info they could find by google searching, though. I may be a "noob" to this site, if that's an issue then don't read what I have to say. I was just trying to unlock this stupid dash as a favor for a friend anyway. But they got a better phone, so I could actually care less about getting the unlock code for myself. I just feel like this jocky is a greedy mutherf-cker. Do your f-cking research...he's making a lot of money, and not even paying to advertise like all the other companies have to do.
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Jocky IS NOT a bad guy. Just think: Your time, your efforts, and a lot of resources by researching a main thing that would help a lot of people.. that costs money. Be smart: you wont post your hard work for other people's pocket. Thats brilliant, thats smart from him. Is not greedy, or, he's charging $$$ as imei-check or someone who f*cks your pockets?
Dont be stupid, dont say b*ll****.. Or did u work in your office (in case you are a employee) for free ?
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I just feel like this jocky is a greedy mutherf-cker. Do your f-cking research...he's making a lot of money, and not even paying to advertise like all the other companies have to do.
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What are jocky's personal accountant, that you know how much $$ or doesn't make? You come into this forum and badmouth and cuss out some you don't even know, just because YOU ASSUME that he is making a boat load of $$. Also if you want to get technical about it jocky does not advertise in this forum. He has 1 thread where he offers his services to those people who choose to use them. I don't seem to be bombarded on every page with jockys unlocking service. If you think you can get it for free then get your butt on google and find your free service. Paying someone a small fee to unlock a phone or even paying some for a Rom that I like and use is no big deal. Believe me this site gives us enough free things. The most important this being KNOWLEDGE.
anabully do us all a favor take a long walk off a short pier and take your foul mouth with you.
I don't know who is right or wrong, and I don't wanna go deeper about it, but the author of this topic is right about complaining.
The whole point is: Why pay for unlocking Excalibur while you can unlock other models (from htc and other brands) for free?
About Jocky (or anyone, or any company) charging us for unlocking is not the point.
What's so special in Excalibur that you can't find a free tool to unlock it? That's the point!
Regards
you can either buy the phone from tmobile, then pay for 3 months service, then get the FREE code from them, then pay a $200 disconnect fee..BAM there is your free code
or you can pay jocky a minimal fee to do it for you
stop *****ing about a service that is saving you money...or go figure out how to do it your god damn self.

WHAT YOU SAY wm6.5 on new wp7 devices

well wp7 is not for me all in what wm6.5 is good and why I want to use it wp7 is not near as good old 6.5 BUT??????????
what you think if we can port 6.5 on new high end devices of wp7 ???????, leave your post here I am still waiting for HTC first wp7 device and will try to make 6.5 work on it if not will buy leo cant wait november
SO WHAT YOU SAY GUYS WANNA TRY THAT
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well wp7 is not for me all in what wm6.5 is good and why I want to use it wp7 is not near as good old 6.5 BUT??????????
what you think if we can port 6.5 on new high end devices of wp7 ???????, leave your post here I am still waiting for HTC first wp7 device and will try to make 6.5 work on it if not will buy leo cant wait november
SO WHAT YOU SAY GUYS WANNA TRY THAT
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Yeah and then you press the phone button to drop a call right!
And good luck writing new WM drivers for you new hardware! HTC for sure won't hesitate to give you their specs.
I guess we have reached the end of road here. If you don't like WP7 and still want up-to-date hardware then there's no choice but jump to another OS.
I was talking with some devs and have answer from one of them he can do that for 30 days write new drivers for htc device so will wait and see I wanna hear your mind do you want that or not
no can that be done or not that is mine problem to find someone to do that for me
Hi,
I would be all for it!
Tam
marko987 said:
well wp7 is not for me all in what wm6.5 is good and why I want to use it wp7 is not near as good old 6.5 BUT??????????
what you think if we can port 6.5 on new high end devices of wp7 ???????, leave your post here I am still waiting for HTC first wp7 device and will try to make 6.5 work on it if not will buy leo cant wait november
SO WHAT YOU SAY GUYS WANNA TRY THAT
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Listen, I will support you for bold audacious thinking -- which some might call ridiculous. However, I will NOT calll it ridiculous. Why?
because everyone at XDA laughed and laughed when someone -- ha ha -- had the riDICulous idea of "could we port Android onto my T-Mobile Wing?" -- and Hah-hah -- ha -ha -- That's impossible!! ha hah! silly idiot -- first off you'd need linux drivers and right there you are dead in the water. Just impossible hardware wise.
And yet...
Did that deter darkstar62 ? Not one bit. Behold what he did despite all the "ha hah ridiculous -- hah hah impossible! hah hah idiot!" : Installable Linux Image for HTC Herald / T-Mobile Wing (UPDATED: Android Install)
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and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478161&page=3
That lead to WING-LINUX > here: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/wing-linux/wiki
And
[PRJ] Wing-Linux on Opal: Linux & Android on OMAP850
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[PRJ] Google Android Centre v2.6 [6Mar10] | Wing Linux - Elf / Elfin
Moral of the Story:
Don't rule your request out just yet. The kind of tenacity shown above is not a one-time-event at XDA ....
ok guys this is not ridiculous I talk to guy he told me if specs was like hd3 he can write drivers in 3 to 4 weeks so that is posible I need support from you he wount write that for one man ME come on think how that would be nice highend phone like hd3 and 6.5 on it would be perfect dont you think
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ok guys this is not ridiculous I talk to guy he told me if specs was like hd3 he can write drivers in 3 to 4 weeks so that is posible I need support from you he wount write that for one man ME come on think how that would be nice highend phone like hd3 and 6.5 on it would be perfect dont you think
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I'm sorry, but your lack of grammar in your posts concerns me that you're not serious about Windows Mobile 6.5 on a WP7 device, you're just joking around. Just an observation.
sorry for my eng I dont know to write very well but what you say I dont know eng because of that I am joking this is important theme for me is you dont think so dont leave comment
I want comments from guys like me who love 6.5 dont like wp7 but wants its hardware or devices so...........
and one more thing I will donate 100 euro to dev who tell me hi can work this out so I am very very serious about this
when he come with working version he will get his donation I didnt buy hd2 only for this so no more joking please I want your support and yours post about this thanks
The devices aren't even out yet, how can your be serious about it? On which decision do you buy a new phone? I don't get it? And what's the advantage anyway of having WM 6.5 run on one of the WP7 first-launch-devices? They are not very different compared to HD2. And if they have some additional graphics chips thingy you first need such drivers as well. Throw in another bunch of 100 euros, seems like you got enough of them available
dunno what to say....is support you to my very best....though there aren't aytihing i can do to help....remember, ridiculous(maybe crazy) thinking will create new stuff....so keep working on till one day you can proudly announce to the XDA-Dev's "WM 6.5.9(?) on HD3(?)" bah.... i just don't know what to write anymore...good luck!!!!
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dunno what to say....is support you to my very best....though there aren't aytihing i can do to help....remember, ridiculous(maybe crazy) thinking will create new stuff....so keep working on till one day you can proudly announce to the XDA-Dev's "WM 6.5.9(?) on HD3(?)" bah.... i just don't know what to write anymore...good luck!!!!
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no sorry, I think requests for such ridiculous and crazy ideas are nothing but annoying. people who might be able to do such things for sure don't take their ideas from stupid threads like this one. so in your case I'd rather shut up and wait and see what happens. if someone IS able to do it then you will discover it one day. no need to trying to "accelerate" the process. there's no need to spam the forums with such "groundbreaking ideas that noone ever imagined before" (Yes, sure) and if you can't contribute any real content then please don't post anything at all. Anyway, this is not supposed to be a direct assault to you, I'm just stating my opinion towards such nonsense **** talking in general.
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no sorry, I think requests for such ridiculous and crazy ideas are nothing but annoying. people who might be able to do such things for sure don't take their ideas from stupid threads like this one. so in your case I'd rather shut up and wait and see what happens. if someone IS able to do it then you will discover it one day. no need to trying to "accelerate" the process. there's no need to spam the forums with such "groundbreaking ideas that noone ever imagined before" (Yes, sure) and if you can't contribute any real content then please don't post anything at all. Anyway, this is not supposed to be a direct assault to you, I'm just stating my opinion towards such nonsense **** talking in general.
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well this is in the WP7 thread, and this clearly says it all in the title...so how is that considered "spamming" of the threads. Don't open and read the thread if you dont wanna be involved with it.
In the near future i absolutly think its crazy that WP7 will be able to work our devices...however down the road months after WP7 has been released i CAN GURANTEE YOU one way or another its going to get ported over. There is no doubt in my mind that it wont be. The kernel and the core of WP7 already still has resembles to WM6.5, granted many other things has changed, the same core and idea remains similiar.
If we got android on our devices, theres no reason why a newer version of windows cant be....the question is HOW LONG, and WHAT DEVICES
now im still running a diamond, and honeslty anybody whose running a diamond/touch pro/diamond 2/touch pro 2/etc...WP7 WILL NOT BE AN EVERYDAY device for you... i think the HD2 will be the ONLY device that can run WP7 efficiently as a day in day out device.
hell sense 2012 runs sluggish on our devices and that was specifically created for our devices, so to load on an extremely heavy detailed OS like WP7 is just crazy.
To answer everyones question? YES WP7 WILL COME OUT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO Windows Mobile phones. Will it work efficiently for any device before the HD2? NOPE.
Yes, go read the title again. it clearly says it's not about porting WP7 to HD2.....
And yes, I don't like WP7, but still I want to stay up-to-date and check out what's happening around it, that's why I'm reading in the section. And THIS rant was not directed against WP7 but to people SPAMMING the board with such requests. Like I said before if some dev. is ever able to do it, fine, that's great, but as long as this is SOOO FAR AWAY I think such threads are just hilarious. How could someone takes this for serious if the devices itself don't even exist right now???
Edit: to make my point a bit more clearer. In the dev. section there's is somewhere an app to imitate the WP7 notifications on WM. I think that's absolutely horrible, I don't need it, but I don't go and post in the thread "This sucks, I hate it" because the guy who developed it did actually something. It's some development and that's what XDA is about..... compared to THIS thread which is only SPAM, **** talk, whatever you call it....
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I'm sorry, but your lack of grammar in your posts concerns me that you're not serious about Windows Mobile 6.5 on a WP7 device, you're just joking around. Just an observation.
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This is not very appreciated.
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This is not very appreciated.
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I agree 100%.
Though it is sometimes hard to tell if one is being duped or not by a troll exploiting the relentless imagination and audacity of XDA-developers to imagine things said to be "IMPOSSIBLE!", this is also an international community site -- and I don't even know but perhaps over 100 countries and languages represented here. English tends to be the unifying language, and for us native English-langauge speakers like myself, I have it simple. For people struggling with English as a second or third language, it indeed can be a very difficult thing to interact here at XDA.
No one should ever be criticized for their efforts in trying to be understood due to language barriers. And until such time as it's shown beyond a reasonable doubt that the OP is just tooling people around, it's disrespectful to attack a poster for language & grammar.
I'll add this:
there's no need to spam the forums with such "groundbreaking ideas that noone ever imagined before" (Yes, sure) and if you can't contribute any real content then please don't post anything at all. Anyway, this is not supposed to be a direct assault to you, I'm just stating my opinion towards such nonsense **** talking in general.
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I really do understand this point -- and this is how I break it down: Using the example I used above, if someone like "darkstar62" were posting in the HACKING subforum that he is leading an initiative to "make this happen", then it would be perfectly valid here right now.
But to me it belongs in GENERAL, along with threads like "WP7 Epic Fail" -- because it's more theoretical and ideation vs a PROJECT. I don't begrudge the expression of the idea at all, even if it may not sound original. The problem here is simply that it's in the wrong forum, and if moved by a mod, it would be fine elsewhere.
My own view is that we have an enthusiastic WM user who, like so may, is bummed about the WP7 direction, and whether highly original or not, is thinking "well if MS won't support WM6.5, why not have XDA-devs carry it forward, if we can get it to run on the new phones... That way we can all take advantage of the new hardware that will keep coming, and for those who want to abandon the WP7 software, there could possibly be another path.
Nothing at all wrong with this thought. Please let's not kill enthusiasm. But if you feel it's either trolling or inappropriate for this forum, that's a completely different matter. In my view, it should be moved to Windows Phone GENERAL, and then it lives or dies just like any other thread... but it need not be trashed. It can die of attrition if no interest.
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no sorry, I think requests for such ridiculous and crazy ideas are nothing but annoying. people who might be able to do such things for sure don't take their ideas from stupid threads like this one. so in your case I'd rather shut up and wait and see what happens. if someone IS able to do it then you will discover it one day. no need to trying to "accelerate" the process. there's no need to spam the forums with such "groundbreaking ideas that noone ever imagined before" (Yes, sure) and if you can't contribute any real content then please don't post anything at all. Anyway, this is not supposed to be a direct assault to you, I'm just stating my opinion towards such nonsense **** talking in general.
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hahah what a sad little man.
You are complaining about spamming and being annoying? What do you think you have just done???
"if you can't contribute any real content then please don't post anything at all" ummm... maybe you should take some of your own advice?
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I really do understand this point -- and this is how I break it down: Using the example I used above, if someone like "darkstar62" were posting in the HACKING subforum that he is leading an initiative to "make this happen", then it would be perfectly valid here right now.
But to me it belongs in GENERAL, along with threads like "WP7 Epic Fail" -- because it's more theoretical and ideation vs a PROJECT. I don't begrudge the expression of the idea at all, even if it may not sound original. The problem here is simply that it's in the wrong forum, and if moved by a mod, it would be fine elsewhere.
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It's different whether the thread is based around a discussion, or just some trolling.
mrj said:
hahah what a sad little man.
You are complaining about spamming and being annoying? What do you think you have just done???
"if you can't contribute any real content then please don't post anything at all" ummm... maybe you should take some of your own advice?
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If you look at my contributions other than this thread then you'll see there is content...
Whatever, seems like you guys didn't get my point. Alright I already shut up! Sorry for disturbing the hot conversation....
Feel free to write history now without my stupid comments
Im sure you probably do contribute in other posts and have helped many people out.
I just thought it was a bit harsh to ping the guy for having an idea (even if it may be in the wrong forum)
I dont know much about WM7 at all, I heard something about no USB thumbdrive mode or multitasking (maybe that has changed? it was an old post) In that case people around here generally like to have a lot of control of their devices so maybe there would be a lot of interest in WM6.5 or android for WM7 devices?
peace
and yes there are a lot of rubbish posts that fill up the forums but this is the age of spam so I dont think we are going to do much about that.
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It's different whether the thread is based around a discussion, or just some trolling.
If you look at my contributions other than this thread then you'll see there is content...
Whatever, seems like you guys didn't get my point. Alright I already shut up! Sorry for disturbing the hot conversation....
Feel free to write history now without my stupid comments
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NEW: Awsome phone case that converts into a car dock!

Thought you guys might find this interesting...
Its a phone case that transforms into a car dock, adjustable camera mount, movie stand, credit card holder, Sd card holder & SUPPORTS the extended battery.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6NLUEnYQdY
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jawcase/121340187919260
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Looks pretty sick too!
That looks like a really cool case.
Too bad their website isn't finished.
I'm buying one as soon as it comes out! The Facebook profile states they will start pre-order sales in just a few days! The video plus the pictures on Facebook are great information.
this was posted over at androidforums a few months ago. apparently the "company" that was going to make these cases need start-up money for the project. i remember the last few pages of posts on the thread was calling the op a scam artist...
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this was posted over at androidforums a few months ago. apparently the "company" that was going to make these cases need start-up money for the project. i remember the last few pages of posts on the thread was calling the op a scam artist...
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That's where I got the link to this project. I personally asked the creator if she'd sell me one, she wouldn't take my money though. She eventually got banned from that site because the admin wants people to pay to post links about their products. The day she left she asked them to delete the thread because she couldn't afford it and sent me and a few other members links to a face book page. Instead of simply deleting the thread they banned her! I think she said they wanted $500 just to allow her to keep her post, now that is a scam!
For a while I thought it was vaporware because there was no updates on the face book page but now there is new photos every day and she says she'll be able to do pre-orders soon.
I think if it was a scam and if it didn't work there wouldn't be so much proof that the concept works, also why didn't she take my money?
The reason why I started coming on here to XDA developers is because android forums is run by greedy businessmen.
I forgot to add this before, here's the facebook page where I got the photos.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jawcase/121340187919260
WooHoo!
they are accepting orders next monday
Update: they got a demo video...
Product Page
Wow this thread died!
Man...that sucks. First they say then are taking pre-orders on the 7th and then, you go to the website and they say they are looking for $9,300 in pledges before the project officially begins. They are only at 3% of the goal. Sounds like bogus to me even if it is legit.
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Man...that sucks. First they say then are taking pre-orders on the 7th and then, you go to the website and they say they are looking for $9,300 in pledges before the project officially begins. They are only at 3% of the goal. Sounds like bogus to me even if it is legit.
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Dude, they just started a day ago, I was a bit worried myself but the site they are using doesn't take ANY money unless the project reaches its funding goal. They could have used Amazon or some other site that takes money immediately when you pre-order. This is the same thing as pre-ordering, its just that they have a minimum pre-order amount to make the case.
I've been watching their thread on this site...
droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-accessories/4609-droid-x-polyurethane-hard-case-images.html
They have a alot of "fans" on that site, I've seen no complaints about scams or anything there.
I think its awful when some people spread rumors that this is a scam with no proof to back it up, I have a case but I'm going to contribute to this project.
The Jawcase concept and the Kickstarter concept are good. It's hard for small people to get started with manufacturing a new idea. So I applaud this gal for sticking with it, and using the Kickstarter method to help get their business off the ground.
They are using Amazon Payments for the pledge system. Nothing will be charged unless they reach their goal of 9300. I pledged 25 bucks to essentially pre-order the case. It's a great concept, and hopefully others will follow suite.
Wow, look at this! A cnc milled version for the iPhone 4. Apparently its going to be around $100!
BFS1983 said:
Wow, look at this! A cnc milled version for the iPhone 4. Apparently its going to be around $100!
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And? Why do I get a funny feeling that some of these posts here are spam posts for advertisment for this case? This is NOT an iJunk forum and for $100, I much rather buy from a reputable well known company like Body Glove and Otterbox. No offense, great concept, I would use it all the time if it was available for sale, IF it's ever available for sale. My two cents.
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And? Why do I get a funny feeling that some of these posts here are spam posts for advertisment for this case? .
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Uh... you think? No one is going to take their case off each time and put it on there dash. it's no dock. Junk IMO.
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And? Why do I get a funny feeling that some of these posts here are spam posts for advertisment for this case? This is NOT an iJunk forum and for $100, I much rather buy from a reputable well known company like Body Glove and Otterbox. No offense, great concept, I would use it all the time if it was available for sale, IF it's ever available for sale. My two cents.
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Sorry if it seems like spam, I specifically asked everyone that was interested in my case to spread the word by tipping gadget blogs and posting on forums.
rocko73 said:
Uh... you think? No one is going to take their case off each time and put it on there dash. it's no dock. Junk IMO.
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I dont mean to sound defensive, but I have strong thoughts on this.
Don't be so pessimistic of start ups everyone has to start somewhere, companies like the creator of the solid wood dock, the game gripper, dockem, ezestand, element case, and most of the other aluminum cases for the iphone are/were small start ups.
Our case is genuinely beneficial to most droid x owners, it saves you a lot of money on your phone accessories, and is much more practical to your every day life.
We're currently sending our case out for previews, the guy I sent the case out today has a car dock so he should be able to tell us the pro's and con's of our version.
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I dont mean to sound defensive, but I have strong thoughts on this.
It's remarkable that so many people in the droid community have this distrust of start up's. Everyone has to start somewhere, companies like the creator of the solid wood dock, the game gripper, dockem, ezestand, element case, and most of the other aluminum cases for the iphone are/were small start ups.
Our case is genuinely beneficial to most droid x owners, it saves you a lot of money on your phone accessories, and is much more practical to your every day life.
We're currently sending our case out for previews, the guy I sent the case out today has a car dock so he should be able to tell us the pro's and con's of our version.
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What's remarkable is that a startup company having such thin skin. If you put a product out there you better be ready for harsh criticism. Embrace it. It's the only way you can make a better product. You don't put something out and then expect it's perfect without receiving a lot of feedback-be it good or bad. So be happy anyone is making comments on your product.
i would like to see the cad/cam files before i believe its cnc milled.
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i would like to see the cad/cam files before i believe its cnc milled.
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Right now we only have a cnc iphone version, this is because the shape of the iphone is much easier and cheaper to make. The droid X version would cost over $100 per case.
I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. Start-up ideas...great. That's part of the backbone of America.
But something like this perhaps would have had a LOT better chance getting off the ground if done 1-1/2 years ago. That's my thought. I've occasionally stopped by to check the progress on the funds to be raised, (as a post-graduate in business management some time back and just saying that to give some perspective) I don't see that the funding goal is going to be reached. And by the time it might ever happen, I'll probably have moved on something else (i.e. HTC) as I'm getting too annoyed with Motorola's locked bootloader stance.
On the plus side, it does sound like the Droid X2 will have the same dimensions. Or so some folks hope in order to be able to use the same accessories and such.
If you believe in this product, go for it, as long as you understand its late in the game (my thinking) with respect to the DX and hopefully would work on the DX 2. There are always going to be folks ready to 'dis anything. I still chuckle when I think about the guy who demanded a refund from JRummy16 for the Liberty Toolbox ... available for FREE on the Market. The way some folks whine about all that the devs do and offer them for free, just imagine (nah...you don't have to even imagine it) what happens when you mention $$ for it. ;-)
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What's remarkable is that a startup company having such thin skin. If you put a product out there you better be ready for harsh criticism. Embrace it. It's the only way you can make a better product. You don't put something out and then expect it's perfect without receiving a lot of feedback-be it good or bad. So be happy anyone is making comments on your product.
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What's remarkable is someone calling a product "junk" without having laid eyes or hands on it.
I personally don't feel her response was a thin skinned answer. Yours however leaves something to be desired.

Back in the old days...

Things were much more peaceful around here before we got so gosh-darned popular. Becoming the go-to place for mobile hacking, I suppose, has that effect on forums. We've gone from a rag-tag bunch of legacy Windows Mobile enthusiasts to a lean, mean, and sometimes green group of Android hackers. While our members, moderators, administrators, developers, and posting styles have certainly changed; we have remained focused on only one thing--mobile hacking and development.
But for now, let's take a step back and remember what XDA was like back in 2003, when Windows Mobile was still cutting edge and the O2 XDA was only a few months old. Back then, fights never broke out and people generally respected their fellow forum members. At the time, we weren't just a place for users to come and get a "Kewl bit of kit." Rather we were focused on the joys of development instead of solely caring about the end product. We specialized in development, not troubleshooting. For better or for worse, however, the explosion of Android brought a sea of new people to XDA, many coming from more diverse walks of life than we could have ever imagined. This has lead to some inevitable butting of heads. Who could have imagined how things would change in the 7 years and three months from this posting date to when I became a registered member on these forums. This isn't to say that we won't try our hardest to help you out if you're having a hard time installing a ROM, kernel, mod or theme. However, we need to make sure that this in no way hinders development.
Luckily, there's nothing saying that we can't (and won't) bring back the same ethos we had in the early development days. As our master-in-chief Svetius recently stated, there will be some changes in the coming months meant to bring us back to a more development-focused environment. I think this is exactly what we need. For better or for worse, XDA has changed quite significantly throughout the ages. However, one thing remains true: We are all here in the pursuit of mobile hackery. XDA for life! Actually, no. XDA IS life!
Now, all of you disrespectful newbies, get off my lawn before I get angry.
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PS. Lawn joke kanged (without permission) from Jimmy.
I agree. I wonder if many of the people who are demanding that we be a technical support forum realize what our address is. We are xda-DEVELOPERS.com not xda-troubleshooters.com. So our main focus is Development for our phones. If someone shows effort, respect and we have time we may answer a troubleshooting question. However, please note that typing such a request in all Caps, poorly constructed sentences, or repeatedly will only serve to make you look like a fool. Then, instead of getting help, you will get ridiculed. So please realize that we owe you nothing. Unless you have developed something and shared it with the community, then we owe you our gratitude and respect. I know that if you treat me with respect I will give you mine.
Many, many moons ago a group of individuals got together to see about developing fun stuff for their phones and come up with was of hacking them just for the fun of it…..great times, those were (in Yoda’s voice).
There were only a handful of devices that were actually worth a crap when it came to productivity and reliability.
One of them was my Sony Ericsson T610 which offered an array of features only seen on SiFi novels (I know I’m exaggerating but anywho..). Just imagine…Bluetooth and IR receiver in one device It was unheard of!!
Back then there were no kanging fights between developers. The biggest problem we had was to Hard SPL the Wallaby
I also remember having to rig a cable in order to download my first ROM in to my HP iPAQ 500 and Android was something that I had only seen in black and white movies where invaders would try and destroy humanity! Those were the days!
Those were the days and sadly they seem to be gone. Now days is more about who kangs who, trying to destroy noobs and attempting to make XDA into some kind of satiric, disgusting and unruly place when in all reality this was is and needs to remain a place where great minds get together to exchange ideas and create apps, mods and hacks that make our devices more powerful and efficient than any manufacturer cold ever do.
As we go back in time lets try and imagine a website where solidarity and comradery exist, where one can feel free to ask a simple question with out someone else popping out a meme mocking them while trying to flame them in ways that only the Spanish inquisition could do!!
Mates and fellow Mods….this is not the XDA that was envision back in those days….but is not too late…It’s “NEVER” to late to correct our ways and make XDA the best forum in the world!!
A great man once said, and I quote: “all I wanna do is a zoom zoom and a boom boom” and you know what….he was right!! I just want to zoom, zoom and a boom, boom also.
Cheers and may the force be with you……..
M_T_M
Wooooo Hooo i got space, just what i needed
Many moons ago purchased an Orange SPV C500 and on searching how to make the device better "PIMPED" XDA a place for people with common interests, many friends met along the way, mind you that was the days of WM where people appreciated what they where provided........... Now every minor with a gun got a smartphone welcome to the present a place where people seem to think they have a view they can shout out and be verbal against many outstanding members of the community!!! Think i preferred just dealing with SPAM.
To be edited @ sometime brain logs on!
M_T_M just noticed u start same
!I HAZ DONE BRICKED MY BRICK!
!ZOMG! PLZ HELP DIS FOOL!
Ahh, the days of the Qtek9100 were good. Faria, Bepe, pof...man what a crew! I'll write more later, but wow, what a time to reflect!
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!I HAZ DONE BRICKED MY BRICK!
!ZOMG! PLZ HELP DIS FOOL!
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You, my good friend, win at XDA and teh internatz.
Post good memories you have about your beginnings on this site...we want to hear them
My first time here
I first came to XDA after getting my first PDA as a gift. It was a (HTC made) HP iPAQ 1945. It was my first time using a WM device ever. I was wowed by the ability to take any of my documents with me and to be able to beam them wirelessly via infrared or BT. It wasn't long before the interface left me waning more, however. I searched around and found some decent themes on XDA. This was around late 2004 or early 2005 as I recall.
I began reading up on all the cool mods and tweaks that this site had to offer for the platform. I came in every now and then for a while until I finally registered for an account in March of 2005. About a year after that, I ended up replacing my old bar phone with another iPAQ, this time, the cellular service-enabled HP iPAQ hw6945.
It had everything I wanted. It had a decent processor, a small amount of user upgradable RAM (if you have decent soldering skills), an amazing keyboard, and several other wireless services like cellular, WiFi, BT, and GPS. The downsides to the phone were it's enormous girth and its relatively crappy screen. It was a rather large, square 3" screen sporting a terrible 240x240 resolution. Even now, I still play with it every now and then and wish HTC/HP had gone with a nicer 480x480 screen.
I kept this device for several years, since, back then, you didn't HAVE to upgrade your phone every year to keep up with the times. WM devices were good for the consumer in that they were long lasting. It wasn't until 2010, almost four years later, that I finally got a Rhodium to replace my iPAQ. I simply fell in love with the keyboard, as nearly all Rhodium owners will tell you. I then came back to XDA to learn more about it. I decided to change my username for the third time and make it something less specific to the device I had at the time. That's how I came about with this name.
My Rhodium was plagued by problems of software that was not properly designed to run on such a low powered device. It ended up being pretty slow after a while, and HTC Messaging client didn't help much either. I went from my iPAQ, which booted completely in just under 15 seconds, to my Rhodium, which took a whopping 150 seconds (2.5 minutes) to boot into a usable state. I know there were several mitigating factors to attribute this with, but it was still a PITA.
I finally decided to flash my first custom ROM after reading about it for a couple of weeks. I picked NRGZ28's Energy ROM in the regular Energy flavor. I did that a few times, and soon realized that I was developing ORD. I played around with all of his different themes. I learned how to properly backup my device, and restore it. I learned how much I had fallen in love with the GTX theme. I even found the perfect radio for me in my area. It was a wonderful time for me.
The best part was that now I could actually assist users here on this site. Before then, I didn't have the knowledge to assist in much. Now, I had my business and education to propel me into this service along with the valuable information I gained from this site. I continued showing others "the light" for a while, and finally decided to give the Leo a try after having to replace my Rhodium so often do to sliding keyboard issues.
I use my Leo almost everyday now. The horse power is plenty enough to keep it moving in this increasingly hardware driven market. It runs nearly a dozen different operating systems. It blazes through most of the computing tasks I give it, and doesn't even blink at any program or app I throw its way. However, it isn't without flaws. The sound quality is severely lacking, as is the call quality. A lack of keyboard hurts, but Swype is a decent compromise. The battery life is nowhere near the two days I used to get from my Rhodium, but it gets me through the day, at least. I've just learned to always have a spare battery on hand, just in case.
That's my story here. What's yours?
I first came to XDA trying to root my Epic. Since then I have abused the firmware in any way I can trying to learn how things are done. I've had my epic since January and since then I have rooted, installed custom ROMs/Kernels and even Linux Ubuntu/Backtrack on my phone. This may very well be the best website ever.
I came to XDA about a year ago to root my incredible and put some custom roms on my phone.
It is a shame that the devs I that were in the Inc a year ago have left. Ihtfp, heyitslou, RMK...
While operation iron fist is a good 1st step, the Inc section has turned into the wild west with little mod intervention.
The reason I am posting this... the OP came in and modded some threads while on point, I felt was disrespectful to the spirit and users emotions over a percieved injustice to one of OUR devs. While this post may be greeted with disdain and hate, the fact remains XDAs problems are greater than the users.
Peace
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I came to XDA after getting an HTC Hero CDMA for free. I hated Sense, and Sprint/HTC dropped the Hero support FAST leaving us with stale software.
I was amazed at the knowledage here, but was always afraid to register because everyone seemed to know what they were doing and I didn't want to be "that noob" that everyone seems to dread. So I was a lurker. I'd download ROMs, but never provide feedback or ask questions. I'd read, get used to Android terminology, etc. With solid computer knowledge under my belt I could fix most simple issues or figure it out myself.
Then things changed somewhat and the place became 4chan. I kept myself from registering yet again. Sometime early 2011 I had to visit my companies main office in Switzerland. I was away from XDA and my HTC EVO (sold my HeroC). I came back about two weeks ago and finally got settled in. I saw the IRON FIST posting the other day and for the first time I felt comfortable posting and being a member. I've learned alot and feel that I can help out and hopefully shake out some lurkers and get them to register and help as well.
Lurkers unite.
nihontako said:
I came to XDA after getting an HTC Hero CDMA for free. I hated Sense, and Sprint/HTC dropped the Hero support FAST leaving us with stale software.
I was amazed at the knowledage here, but was always afraid to register because everyone seemed to know what they were doing and I didn't want to be "that noob" that everyone seems to dread. So I was a lurker. I'd download ROMs, but never provide feedback or ask questions. I'd read, get used to Android terminology, etc. With solid computer knowledge under my belt I could fix most simple issues or figure it out myself.
Then things changed somewhat and the place became 4chan. I kept myself from registering yet again. Sometime early 2011 I had to visit my companies main office in Switzerland. I was away from XDA and my HTC EVO (sold my HeroC). I came back about two weeks ago and finally got settled in. I saw the IRON FIST posting the other day and for the first time I felt comfortable posting and being a member. I've learned alot and feel that I can help out and hopefully shake out some lurkers and get them to register and help as well.
Lurkers unite.
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It would just be nice if more newer users shared your point of view. Glad to have you with us now.
I have also been a "lurker" following development threads for my phone. I have downloaded R0Ms and have reached a stage where I feel I can make some useful contribution. However, I am stuck with the minimum 10-posting rule
I first found XDA a long time before i actually signed up , was a lurker for a long time, just browsing and viewing threads getting tips etc, only joined in 2009 i think it was when i got my touch diamond and became hooked the people were friendly and help full, then i progressed on to the HD2 and it was all great until prob last summer and i just got fed up of this place, it turned into a n00b fest ok fine everyone has to start somewhere, we all do, but everyone in that section just turned into complete ass hats including my self because day after day countless threads of "help" "did i brick my device" nobody reads any more,I will admit i did it the first day i got my hd2 i messed up real bad from not reading.
But this site is just getting worse now threads being closed people calling hell outta each other, ill even admit i have been a twat today for someone asking how to back up there contacts on android, (sorry just cut your hands off).
The site used to be great used to be a place were you could pop along find something you need and read and learn from it, now even the xda search feature is a waste of time. You cant find the info you need any more unless you no where to look,
Recently got myself the SGS2 (amazing device) gotta say the most miserable unhelpful twats ive ever come across in a device section, I dont no maybe there all just bored of the same thing in and out but most dont have that many posts and are *****ing at each other, then you come across chainfire that guy is a frigging genius he gets so many reply to his cf-root thread im surprised he can keep up its crazy and he gives no trouble, then look at Hacre who created the Ninphetamine kernel for the sgs2 post 5 i will admit is the FUNNIEST thing i have ever read in my life but he makes the whole point about what is happening to this site, its getting worse everyday.
I used to love this site for the way people helped and im not the greatest but i did my fair share of helping in the hd2 section and now i just cba to visit the forum because of the way people get treated, yeah im just one member that dont care any more and i no it doesn't make a difference to the website because it has so many members but thats my problem it seems there is no respect for anyone on here any more.
just my two cents
Um, I discovered XDA in August 2010 trying to find a way to improve my Wildfire. Before I joined (registered), I did a lot of reading and I discovered true charms of Android. Since then I'm every-day visitor, not a developer, just a user though... But I'm proud because I'm a member in a community like XDA is. Not to forget, I got some knowledge about mobile OS' (Android and WM) over the months so I'm contributing the community by helping people. XDA for the win!
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I didnt have a clue it was so old.......although I do seem to remember browsing through it whilst looking for Symbian hacks and such.
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You, my good friend, win at XDA and teh internatz.
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Ok willverduzco I'm gonna call you out!
You respond to a thread where the last reply date is 31st March 2003, 07:25 AM....... 2003! (that's 8 and a half years old btw) In a thread about the good old days, you sir are a ether a master troll, a wizard mod changing dates all over here or i'm going mad
I'm not fussed which one, hats off to you.
Bring the deads back
How come you signed in 2008 and this post is from 2003
JimmyMcGee said:
I agree. I wonder if many of the people who are demanding that we be a technical support forum realize what our address is. We are xda-DEVELOPERS.com not xda-troubleshooters.com. So our main focus is Development for our phones. If someone shows effort, respect and we have time we may answer a troubleshooting question. However, please note that typing such a request in all Caps, poorly constructed sentences, or repeatedly will only serve to make you look like a fool. Then, instead of getting help, you will get ridiculed. So please realize that we owe you nothing. Unless you have developed something and shared it with the community, then we owe you our gratitude and respect. I know that if you treat me with respect I will give you mine.
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orb3000 said:
How come you signed in 2008 and this post is from 2003
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Senior mods and up have magical powers. Look at my original post!
mynamesteve said:
Ok willverduzco I'm gonna call you out!
You respond to a thread where the last reply date is 31st March 2003, 07:25 AM....... 2003! (that's 8 and a half years old btw) In a thread about the good old days, you sir are a ether a master troll, a wizard mod changing dates all over here or i'm going mad
I'm not fussed which one, hats off to you.
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Why thank you sir. Looking at the my OP date, who says it's not all of the above.
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How to make the site better

I have been on xda for a little over a year. It is the site I come to first for anything. The minds at work here have helped me make my Evo the fantastic old school device it is now. But my friends and I have came to the conclusion that there is a LOT of arguing and bickering. It seems to be an issue.
My suggestion? Keep the site as is. Access can stay the same. But only allow people that pay, say .99 xda enrollment fee, to be able to download and/post. Make it just as readable as it currently is. Allow the trolls to read posts and hate quietly. Leave it to the people that are here for development or modifications. It should trim down a lot of the general crybabies and arguementative people. They will still be there, but not as many, and either way xda as a whole wins. At .99 a memeber you would be able to enjoy such downloads as apks, posting about topics, etc.
That would probably be a great way to drive of devs from this site. Going to make them pay to post, make people pay to get their roms apps etc. They could go to different sites or open their own, which is what would happen
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Pay to post? I mean I knew this was going to be a horrible idea from the title, but I didn't expect "Don't let anyone post unless they pay!"
I don't think so. Lots of people pay .99 for so silly app all the time. I'm merely making a suggestion to help clear the clutter. If u haven't notice, some devs have already left...due to bickering. Whining. I know of countless people who would gladly come to a little more refined site. And no, a paid membership would keep all the trash out but it definitely would cut it down.
To ad to this, please moderators or devs please don't take offense to this post. I love xda. This is a great site. I felt I came to the right forum w a decent idea. I do not expect this idea implemented but I feel as though it shouldn't be discarded but at least looked into. I understand the size of this site and am not looking to disrespect any member of this board. But I would gladly pay for a little exclusivity if it meant in the long run that the social a developmental needs were being better met.
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Pay to post? I mean I knew this was going to be a horrible idea from the title, but I didn't expect "Don't let anyone post unless they pay!"
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It would be as a membership fee. Pay to post is all you have read? Haha. I've watched people buy apps for $2 and never use them. You say .99 is too much? Maybe its xda that's all too glad to accept everyone when in truth that's not always the right approach due to abusers of privilege. Most paid just for xda premium unless they ripped it of some site. I have accrued way more than .99 worth of knowledge. This is simply food for thought. Its not really about money. My idea just seemed simple and an extremely easy way to solve many mild issues. I can deal with it as free is great for me. But I personally would be more than willing to, due to the resources xda offers alone is enough.
While this isnt the worst idea I've ever heard I do think its a little extreme.
In my opinion the best way to deal with these problem users is for diligent and well intentioned members such as yourselves to make full use of the report post function and let us deal with any issues that might arise.
I also think that there needs to be a little understanding of the fact that this is the internet and it is crawling with trolls....
We will deal with problematic users but we need your help and for people to understand that although we endeavour to deal with any situation as quickly as possible, we simply cannot catch every little thing right there and then.
Also, if you see a member who is clearly out to cause drama and controversy...
Dont feed the troll. If everyone made more of an effort to simply ignore these idiots then they'd get bored pretty quickly...
In the words of the prophets Bill & Ted....
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What about minors who use this site (like me) ?
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I appreciate the earnest response. I just thought I would bring this up.
I'm not age discriminate, as I am only 30.
I definitely try not to fuel the trolls. I also see this site to be a place that prides itself on being open. So, I can let it go. Glad I at least was able to rant a little haha.
stkiswr said:
I appreciate the earnest response. I just thought I would bring this up.
I'm not age discriminate, as I am only 30.
I definitely try not to fuel the trolls. I also see this site to be a place that prides itself on being open. So, I can let it go. Glad I at least was able to rant a little haha.
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Hehehe I'm glad that you can suppress your anger.....
I will fail on that
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What do u wanna make for tis?
I think that is horrible idea and i would definetly leave xda then.
Think about the minors and people with no credit cards!
Just my opinion
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Lol ^ what would the minors do that own smart phones and no debit cards. Haha what are you on wic?
Edit: this comment is not directed nor intended to offend people on wic. But if you have a smartphone and no debit card of any sort then you
A) live w your parents
B) sell lots of drugs and banks aren't of interest
C) form your own opinion about a and b and get back to me
yes i agree 100% that this is a bad idea xda has always been about promoting open source if u make people pay to use the site then it would be one of the most contradicting things ive ever seen.
Also as compared to other website like ppcgeeks and android forums xda is far more organized and set up better i think its just fine the way it is.
on another note when i read the title u came of as a troll right away u might want to reward that a little.
That's funny. Well, none of it was meant to be taken any wrong way. Merely a suggestion. That's what the forums are here for.
Like it or not my idea will never come to fruition but I still would gladly pay. Anyone that argues or complains or suggests its outrageous should look at how much knowledge is worth.
We will all have our own ideas and opinions and in the end .99 isn't **** to be a member of an elite site such as xda. Which I will gladly accept and enjoy my free membership. And if it ever were to change, I wouldn't complain one bit
If trying to come up with a creative solution is considered being a troll then I think about 100% of users on this site fall in that category. Maybe have a 3 strike and your banned policy if you get reported for unruly behavior 3 times then boom access denied! That might make folks think twice before bashing someone who is just trying to learn.
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If trying to come up with a creative solution is considered being a troll then I think about 100% of users on this site fall in that category. Maybe have a 3 strike and your banned policy if you get reported for unruly behavior 3 times then boom access denied! That might make folks think twice before bashing someone who is just trying to learn.
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Good idea . But what if:
-Trolls report you and you got banned ?
-Members who register just to report everyone ?
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stkiswr said:
Lol ^ what would the minors do that own smart phones and no debit cards. Haha what are you on wic?
Edit: this comment is not directed nor intended to offend people on wic. But if you have a smartphone and no debit card of any sort then you
A) live w your parents
B) sell lots of drugs and banks aren't of interest
C) form your own opinion about a and b and get back to me
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agreed. You can get prepaid credit cards for free now. Just go to the local grocery store.
I actually wouldn't mind this, the same way I don't mind paying for my apps or my mediafire acct. I don't think 10 bucks a year registration fee would be unreasonable.
But it would never happen for the reasons already listed. Open source might be free, but the devices are not, and people don't seem to mind dropping 600 bucks on the next latest and greatest.
As a side note for the minors, I have actually considered getting my kids prepaid debit cards that are reloadable for their allowance. It's a digital age. People that still write checks at walmart drive me crazy. They are processed as a debit and given right back!!!
More mods imo, because looking at this LIST it explains why the main two forums I've used while being a member here are such a mess.
XperienceD said:
More mods imo, because looking at this LIST it explains why the main two forums I've used while being a member here are such a mess.
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On their way....
Just finishing up in boot camp and should hit the forums very shortly.
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conantroutman said:
On their way....
Just finishing up in boot camp and should hit the forums very shortly.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Boot camp huh. They have a boot camp to teach them how, not exactly when but how, to use the lock delete and ban buttons?
Yeah I'm a little sour. Seen to many threads locked for no reason, just as many deleted.
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