its a shame to have the soft keys display while youre playing a game or watching a video. Any way to make them disappear completely and get a true full screen experience?
i was thinking maybe configuring it so that you gently tap the power button to make them go away(come back) & for normal power button use do a long press instead.
Probably a pointless bump/post from me, but this is something that I'd really like to have too.
Soft buttons sounded cool, but after getting the phone, they seem to be somewhat permanent and not particularly customisable either.
Videos seem to be the only application where they hide, but even then, simply tapping the screen _anywhere_ brings them back up again (even with screen control lock enabled).
I watch videos with subtitles and being a slow reader, tend to pause videos fairly regularly. It's annoying to have the video bounce around when I do so because of the soft buttons popping up.
Really would appreciate if anyone knows of a method to kill these soft buttons!
Yep I would love this as well, an option to enable this feature.
It would auto hide the soft keys, then a swipe up from the bottom will overlay the keys on top of the existing screen (so the app isn't resizing itself - like HD videos do when the keys come back).
Then we can use the full smexy 4.65" screen and real 720p.
it is up to the developer of the app to add the full screen code.
Dice Player was the first to add this and when you play videos, it automatically goes fullscreen and then a tap brings the buttons back.
i don't think that any mod or app could do it. You could probably make a mod that forces them to always hide in landscape, but the problem would be that they're always gone, even when you want them there.
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it is up to the developer of the app to add the full screen code.
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I presume that an app can only indicate that the buttons should be hidden, and really doesn't have much more control than that?
So basically, unusable in games.
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i don't think that any mod or app could do it. You could probably make a mod that forces them to always hide in landscape, but the problem would be that they're always gone, even when you want them there.
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Surely there must be some sort of modification (even if it needs to go back to the kernel (forgive my ignorance if I'm totally off)) to allow us to do it?
I can understand that an app is restricted to the API provided to it, which is why I think an OS level mod needs to be done here.
I get it that this could be less convenient / more confusing, so believe that this shouldn't be in a stock ROM, but if I want to mod my phone this way, I should be able to, right?
i would love a rom that has a setting where i can choose certain apps that can hide the buttons on whatever apps i want. that would be awesome. dont know if its possible. especially on slingplayer. its a $30 app which rarely gets updated. who knows when they will update it. its a good thing i sideloaded it and didnt pay for it. i dont see how it can work on games though because tapping the screen is the way to get the buttons there. unless there is some sort of gesture to bring em back. i do think we will see a lot more out of soft buttons but it will take a while.
youtube seemingly does this for me....
I too think its a total waste having the buttons never move or disappear. Its a great concept, but google didnt take advantage of it at all. I just find it wasting space. Would love if they could be hidden.
／人◕‿‿ ◕人＼ said:
I presume that an app can only indicate that the buttons should be hidden, and really doesn't have much more control than that?
So basically, unusable in games.
Surely there must be some sort of modification (even if it needs to go back to the kernel (forgive my ignorance if I'm totally off)) to allow us to do it?
I can understand that an app is restricted to the API provided to it, which is why I think an OS level mod needs to be done here.
I get it that this could be less convenient / more confusing, so believe that this shouldn't be in a stock ROM, but if I want to mod my phone this way, I should be able to, right?
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i don't think so. the code is there to hide them, but in video apps they show back up on simply a touch. The game developers could add code to say that they only come up when you press pause. I don't see why that wouldn't be possible.
on a system level i'm sure it could be done, but as we've both said. it'll be much less convenient and more confusing.
heres an example, what happens if you enable that to play a game full screen, but that game has no exit option. You now have no way out of the game. The only way to get back to your homescreen is to shut off the phone.
so then, another mod would be required, you'd need a link to the home screen from the powermenu.
so your already up to two mods to do something that most people would not want.
The better thing is to just have the keys dim when playing a game like they do in honeycomb, and not just disappear.
i would also like a ability to hide them!
I think it would be cool if the soft keys had a transparent backround maybe the buttons could fade to dots like I have seen them do.
neok44 said:
i don't think so. the code is there to hide them, but in video apps they show back up on simply a touch. The game developers could add code to say that they only come up when you press pause. I don't see why that wouldn't be possible.
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I haven't looked at the API, I'm just going on a hunch from what I've seen how apps react.
For example, if apps had such control over the buttons, why would they still show on touch even if screen control locking is enabled? Just a bug in the application, or perhaps just cannot be done?
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on a system level i'm sure it could be done, but as we've both said. it'll be much less convenient and more confusing.
heres an example, what happens if you enable that to play a game full screen, but that game has no exit option. You now have no way out of the game. The only way to get back to your homescreen is to shut off the phone.
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Take the example in the first post - erhaps an option to toggle the buttons in the power menu.
One would presume that if you're playing a game, you're not looking to exit it every minute, so it's not like you exactly need a convenient exit button. If the toggle is done through the power menu, then it makes logical sense to go back there if you with to show the buttons again.
Of course, there'll probably be people who forget about where they turned off the buttons, so yes, slightly more confusing to newbies, but if there's a custom mod which allows this type of functionality, it would be really helpful to those who do understand. (after all, if you've gone to the effort to enable such a mod, you're sure to know about it)
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so then, another mod would be required, you'd need a link to the home screen from the powermenu.
so your already up to two mods to do something that most people would not want.
The better thing is to just have the keys dim when playing a game like they do in honeycomb, and not just disappear.
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I'm not sure about the "two mods" proposition - you can't really have one without the other so I'd think it would be classed as one, but I don't really want to debate about semantics here (neither can I really say anything about low level requirements to perform this mod).
As for most people not wanting it, perhaps, though I think the responses in this thread shows that there are people out there interested in this, and it's not only me. The value proposition is up to someone else to decide though.
Dimming the keys does not enable more screen space, which is the whole point of completely hiding them.
i dont have a problem with them, they hide automatically on things like netflix and need for speed shift...
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／人◕‿‿ ◕人＼ said:
I haven't looked at the API, I'm just going on a hunch from what I've seen how apps react.
For example, if apps had such control over the buttons, why would they still show on touch even if screen control locking is enabled? Just a bug in the application, or perhaps just cannot be done?
Take the example in the first post - erhaps an option to toggle the buttons in the power menu.
One would presume that if you're playing a game, you're not looking to exit it every minute, so it's not like you exactly need a convenient exit button. If the toggle is done through the power menu, then it makes logical sense to go back there if you with to show the buttons again.
Of course, there'll probably be people who forget about where they turned off the buttons, so yes, slightly more confusing to newbies, but if there's a custom mod which allows this type of functionality, it would be really helpful to those who do understand. (after all, if you've gone to the effort to enable such a mod, you're sure to know about it)
I'm not sure about the "two mods" proposition - you can't really have one without the other so I'd think it would be classed as one, but I don't really want to debate about semantics here (neither can I really say anything about low level requirements to perform this mod).
As for most people not wanting it, perhaps, though I think the responses in this thread shows that there are people out there interested in this, and it's not only me. The value proposition is up to someone else to decide though.
Dimming the keys does not enable more screen space, which is the whole point of completely hiding them.
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honestly not sure. could be a bug or how it'd designed. since the galaxy nexus has no other way of letting you control it, most likely it's designed so that theres no way to perminately hide them.
If you added an option in the power menu to show/hide them, then that would make it just one mod. The two mods idea was just one to make them always hide in fullscreen apps, and then another one that would give you a home link in the power menu.
but having a link in the power menu to show/hide the buttons is actually a better idea. assuming it would work. And doing it this way would allow you an easy way to turn them on and off.
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This is the closes I can get it to hide, but it's still not full screen on games. Changed the color to black. It blends in with the background, but the highlighted button press is still there. Like hidden buttons.
Using Codename Android 1.0.1 ROM, it has the option to change the color built in, as does AOKP ROM.
RogerPodacter said:
I too think its a total waste having the buttons never move or disappear. Its a great concept, but google didnt take advantage of it at all. I just find it wasting space. Would love if they could be hidden.
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actually google did take advantage of it. they added it to their own apps like youtube and gallery during video. and on other apps like phone during a call and gallery viewing pictures they hide.
I checked this tablet out @ best buy the other day. Looked really nice, but the one flaw I found in the LG skin.. was there was no open app " soft key " similar to Stock Android... where you can touch and jump from app to app without having to click home screen and find the open app.
I know there is a google play edition out there that would have the Pure Android that I like. But some really nice Sales popping up on the LG skinned version, and the remote app looks pretty sweet. Was wondering if there's a way to navigate to recent / open apps that I'm missing.
.. Don't really want too ROOT / ROM the device. I've found I prefer things to work out of the box...
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I checked this tablet out @ best buy the other day. Looked really nice, but the one flaw I found in the LG skin.. was there was no open app " soft key " similar to Stock Android... where you can touch and jump from app to app without having to click home screen and find the open app.
I know there is a google play edition out there that would have the Pure Android that I like. But some really nice Sales popping up on the LG skinned version, and the remote app looks pretty sweet. Was wondering if there's a way to navigate to recent / open apps that I'm missing.
.. Don't really want too ROOT / ROM the device. I've found I prefer things to work out of the box...
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I believe you can customize the layout of the navbar on LG's skin. Also pick black/white bar. Besides that I think it's a "long-press" action as default. Home or Menu when long pressed will pop out the recents list. - I only booted the Tablet to install CM, so I'm not 100% sure on how it works. But I know you can customize then navbar.
Looking press of the home button shows app list like on stock android
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I had the same issue, I wanted a short tap key to show recent apps, because I consider that to be the best way to switch between apps.
It's possible to do this by using the Xposed installer together with the G2 module.
(you can achieve what you want with the free version)
This lets you customize the navigation bar to great extent.
I have a 4 key navigation bar now with a short press key for recent apps and an extra menu key next to that.
However, you need root for that to work.
I am using HTC Desire 530 with Marshmallow 6.0.1.
Before installing Google Now Launcher the Soft Buttons Light goes off automatically when not in use, only when touched it is on for a couples of seconds, then off again.
After installing Google Now Launcher the Soft Buttons Light stays on as long as the screen is on, even after uninstalling Google Now Launcher, the light is still always on.
I have googled around to find a solution to bring back the automatic off, e.g., by using Soft Buttons Light Version 1.0 by Domenico Messina, but to no avail.
If Google Now Launcher can change from automatic off to always on without rooting, I believe it must be also possible to reverse the situation without rooting. Therefore any hint, trick or tweak to achieve that will be highly appreciated. Or better still a hint on a simple applicaton that can control the soft buttons light as on Galaxy, but applicable to HTC Desire 530.
Thank you.
Any help please…..?
Maybe I did not make myself clear enough.
What I wish is to bring back “Auto-hide navigation bar” that was present before I tried Google Now Launcher.
Now under Settings Personalization Navigation Bar, there is only one option that is “Show button to hide navigation bar”, which will show a fourth button into navigation bar that hides navigation bar manually.
What I really wish to be in that settings is “Hide navigation bar”. May someone help me to realize it?
Thank you so much.
Have you tried to factory reset the phone and see if it comes back that way already. There's gotta be some type of setting in Google launcher that keeps you from hiding nav bar. I don't really use that launcher sorry I can't really be any help.
Also I seen that in first post it's says about auto back lights going on and off what desire are you using ? I thought this forum was for HTC desire 530 if so thought they didn't have actual nag buttons. Anyways after you reset let me know I'll download launcher in mean while to see what's up.
I'm surprised this phone doesn't have more support it's kinda of a nice phone for being cheap. Granted it's not like my Asus zenfone laser 2 or nothing but still is awesome.
Thank you so much josh2020glacier for trying to help.
I am almost sure that Factory Reset will bring back the Navigation Bar autohide feature on the HTC Desire 530, but that is the one that I really want to avoid, because I have done quite a lot so that I don’t want to start from scratch.
If there is no other way, then I will have to be satisfied to live with it as it is now.
Once again thank you so much.
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Thank you so much josh2020glacier for trying to help.
I am almost sure that Factory Reset will bring back the Navigation Bar autohide feature on the HTC Desire 530, but that is the one that I really want to avoid, because I have done quite a lot so that I don’t want to start from scratch.
If there is no other way, then I will have to be satisfied to live with it as it is now.
Once again thank you so much.
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Your more then welcome. I'll still do some research and hopefully find something to help you. Sorry again I wasn't much help
Hey i found something
Sorry for my English, well looking for something good at xposed place, i found an app its called "SoftkeysFadeMod" and says the same that you writed above, give it a try and good luck. Pd.You need to be root
Try Nova launcher, it provides a button to hide soft keys
Just got the 7T, coming from a Pixel 3. So far I'm really enjoying it but there are a few things that slightly annoy me and can't figure out how to address:
1.) I realized that I wasn't getting a notification in the status bar for google play updates. If I swiped down, the notification would be in the shade. After spending a lot of time searching through everything, I noticed in the shade (where you swipe half way on a notification to reveal a gear icon) that the notifications were on "Other", just as it was on my pixel 3 but didn't experience this issue. I then changed it to "Important" notifications. This helped, but now when I have my phone on ring or vibrate, I get notified of an app update or when an app has finished updating (rings or vibrates)*. This isn't a huge deal, but it slightly annoys me. Is this common for OnePlus? Can anyone help me trouble shoot?
2.) Another issue I'm experiencing started right before creating this thread (Which is what prompted me to seek your guys' help). The OnePlus launcher updated. Now whenever I slide up from an app to the app switcher, I get a little a vibration. Again, not a huge deal, but I prefer not to have that every time as I'm always switching apps. I can't find where to shut that off.
3) Lastly, in the camera app, I cannot glide my finger to see all camera modes like the pixel 3. I have to tap each one individually in order to get to the mode I want if it's off screen. This seems counter intuitive. Again, is this a OnePlus thing or am I going insane?
No big issues, but if you can help me figure these out or put me in my place by telling me this is how OnePlus works, I'd greatly appreciate it.
*This also happens for LastPass as well.
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3) Lastly, in the camera app, I cannot glide my finger to see all camera modes like the pixel 3. I have to tap each one individually in order to get to the mode I want if it's off screen. This seems counter intuitive. Again, is this a OnePlus thing or am I going insane?
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I've noticed the exact same thing in Camera App. Look's like a feature It's quicker/easier to simply swipe up this bar to access all mode selection.
Olivier.
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I've noticed the exact same thing in Camera App. Look's like a feature It's quicker/easier to simply swipe up this bar to access all mode selection.
Olivier.
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I appreciate the response. I had no idea I could swipe up! Thank you!
Hello,
I used magisk to root my phone and everything's working fine but many things I want to fix and can't seem to find how to.
First of all, what's the point of rooting if only way to remove system apps are with adb? Can do this without root.
Any way to activate double tap to open close the screen when locked? Damn I hate soooo much the single tap to open it and the double tap that does nothing to close it.
Any way to remove the bottom search bar? I removed 2 packages with adb but the search bar is still there.
Any way to close/lock the phone besides the power button? Coming from HTC U11 with squeeze features, it bogs me a lot not having any other way to lock it than the power button.
I think that is it for now. I'll add if I think of more.
Thanks!
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Hello,
I used magisk to root my phone and everything's working fine but many things I want to fix and can't seem to find how to.
First of all, what's the point of rooting if only way to remove system apps are with adb? Can do this without root.
Any way to activate double tap to open close the screen when locked? Damn I hate soooo much the single tap to open it and the double tap that does nothing to close it.
Any way to remove the bottom search bar? I removed 2 packages with adb but the search bar is still there.
Any way to close/lock the phone besides the power button? Coming from HTC U11 with squeeze features, it bogs me a lot not having any other way to lock it than the power button.
I think that is it for now. I'll add if I think of more.
Thanks!
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Custom roms and kernels
nope
not on stock rom. not sure about custom as I haven't tried any yet
not sure what you mean hear...
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Custom roms and kernels
nope
not on stock rom. not sure about custom as I haven't tried any yet
not sure what you mean hear...
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Maybe with a custom rom I can remove the useless bottom screen search bar. Is it only working with chrome or can it work with any browser?
What I meant is with HTC U11 you can squeeze the phone to do things like open the camera, take a picture, open led lights, and most importantly lock the phone and close the screen. I was wondering if the 4a 5g can lock screen by another mean than power button.
Also I just found out there are no notifications led. How do you guys know if you have sms or emails or whatnot?
grat_master said:
Maybe with a custom rom I can remove the useless bottom screen search bar. Is it only working with chrome or can it work with any browser?
What I meant is with HTC U11 you can squeeze the phone to do things like open the camera, take a picture, open led lights, and most importantly lock the phone and close the screen. I was wondering if the 4a 5g can lock screen by another mean than power button.
Also I just found out there are no notifications led. How do you guys know if you have sms or emails or whatnot?
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I reformatted my phone just to see what you mean about bottom search bar. The only way that I know of to remove it, install a different launcher... i.e. nova launcher, apex launcher, etc... refer to playstore
No squeezing here... Use power button
When your phone makes the notification noise and or vibrates... Like I told my wife several phones ago... Learned to live without it or get a different phone and do your research before you buy it.