Hi everyone, I hope you're doing great. As I have unlocked the bootloader on my Poco F4 and I'm about to install a custom ROM and root my device, I am not so confident to add any sensitive data because I don't know how exposed the device becomes when there's root and also bootloader unlocked. What do I need to concern the most, and also how do I bypass the Safetynet? Thank you in advance.
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Funny, I don't feel safe without root but then I wouldn't trust any phone or its manufacturer and would do pricey things only on a real and own computer.
Safetynet is another reason for me not do it, turns too often into the cat and mouse game (from what I read/tried).
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Hi guys!
So in the past, I always had my Xperia SP with rooted, UBL and with a custom rom, mostly CM.
I miss some features like ad block that can only be obtained by rooting your device. Having a system backup with TWRP is also pretty nice.
However, I just have these security fears with unlocking and rooting. The phone stays encrypted, but is it actually less safe with an unlocked bootloader? Or do you you all recommend to unlock it?
Thanks in advance! I really don't know why I'm so afraid all of a sudden.
I am considering this phone as a replacement for Note 7, so I have some questions about root.
Does it break Android Pay, and if so, is it permanent? Like does it fry "secure element?" Or can one root, install adblock .hosts, but then reverse the effect?
Also, if the phone is rooted, can it still be secured? So, if I lose my phone, can someone plug it into usb and flash/wipe data? Or can it be secured, so that it could only be tampered by the owner?
Thanks.
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I am considering this phone as a replacement for Note 7, so I have some questions about root.
Does it break Android Pay, and if so, is it permanent? Like does it fry "secure element?" Or can one root, install adblock .hosts, but then reverse the effect?
Also, if the phone is rooted, can it still be secured? So, if I lose my phone, can someone plug it into usb and flash/wipe data? Or can it be secured, so that it could only be tampered by the owner?
Thanks.
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Gentle bump.
At the current moment there's currently no root yet (although Chainfire did got seamless root working with boot image mods but is still working on getting everything done) and there's currently no custom recovery.
Also, Google hasn't used SE for the longest time since Verizon and other carriers has been locking out that chip on the SIM card for a long time. Instead they do some sort of emulation of sort which is stored in the data encrypted so if you ever wipe your phone you don't have to worry about the SE being all jacked up without unregistering it first.
In terms of being able to use Android Pay, it does check to see if the bootloader is unlocked but there's already a kernel out that bypasses that check and I'm able to use it just fine so even if you are rooted I'm sure you could just use that kernel and it'll still work (I'm not able to test with root since the root isn't publicly available yet but usually you can go into SuperSU and tell it to hide su and android pay should still work if it does check to see if su is installed on top of the bootloader being unlocked). So there's always ways around it.
Hey guys!
First I have to explain that I'm German and englisch is not my native language.
Second thing is, I'm a complete newbie to the whole smartphone/android stuff.
My Z1c was almost unused since I bought it. I'll need it for now and want to root it and have an actual, stable and secure system/ROM on it. Therefore I'm looking for an "easy" method to root and unlock the bootloader. (I never rooted a phone so far)
Tried KingoRoot and Towelroot but doesn't worked. Google only showed "old" methods, so I rather ask here before bricking.
If it's possible I would prefer an other method for unlocking the bootloader than the official/ legit via Sony HP...
Have a way more questions after rooting and unlocking. Be warned! :laugh:
Edit: Is this (search4rootsdotcom) trustworthy?
3dg4r Fr13ndly said:
Hey guys!
First I have to explain that I'm German and englisch is not my native language.
Second thing is, I'm a complete newbie to the whole smartphone/android stuff.
My Z1c was almost unused since I bought it. I'll need it for now and want to root it and have an actual, stable and secure system/ROM on it. Therefore I'm looking for an "easy" method to root and unlock the bootloader. (I never rooted a phone so far)
Tried KingoRoot and Towelroot but doesn't worked. Google only showed "old" methods, so I rather ask here before bricking.
If it's possible I would prefer an other method for unlocking the bootloader than the official/ legit via Sony HP...
Have a way more questions after rooting and unlocking. Be warned! :laugh:
Edit: Is this (search4rootsdotcom) trustworthy?
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Not sure why you don't want to use Sony unlocking method, and also can't imagine who besides Sony would have the unlock code. Once you have the code, you could use Flashtool to unlock, but you have to go through Sony to get the code.
If you do unlock bl, rooting is easy, via fastboot/adb. If bl is locked, Kingroot works, (not sure which version you tried, but latest version is proven to work - I've done it myself at least 3 times). Most people prefer not to use Kingroot as a permanent root manager, but once you're rooted, it's easy to switch to whatever you want.
Many stable and very good rooms to choose from.
Once you got yourself TWRP 3 running you have a lot of options to choose from.
I've been modding my Z1C for two years now and i'm positive that for normal usage AOSP roms don't make the cut, there have been multiple occasions with AOSP / CM roms where i had bugs with latest YouTube app versions, random shutdowns and over-average battery consumption in idle despite kernel tweaking which are all not present in stock-based roms. I was using a slightly modded 14.6.A.236 for most of 2015 until now which worked fine but i cluttered the phone too much so it became super slow and almost unusable. I've very recently backed up everything and clean-flashed DStrikerZ1 rom because it's the most-followed rom for the Z1C and i have to say i'm positively surprised by it's UX performance and overall style. Once i know how to fix my mobile network* i'll probably recommend it but until then you might just wanna flash stock .236, root and then de-bloat using TitaniumBackup (or whatever you prefer) which i know will definitely be bullet-proof.
By the way i'm also from Germany so feel free to hit me up for questions, i'll help where i can.
*Edit: Mobile network working, just had to mess with the internet service provider settings a bit. That makes DStrikerZ the best rom i've used so far on this phone.
Much appreciate guys!
I've got the unlock code and will do it tomorrow.
Read all over about absolutely making an TA-Backup BEFORE unlocking the bootloader cuz of loosing the Bravia Engine, DRM-Keys and Track-ID so I was uncertain....
Hi. I am about to purchase a Huawei Mate SE and wanted to know if there is a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. It looks like Kingroot and/or Kingoroot might be an option. I'm not new to rooting phones so I understand most of the basics. From what I read, I won't be able to install a custom recovery and therefore can't install custom ROMs which is fine. I mainly want root for apps like Titanium Backup and Greenify. I don't want to lose the ability to OTA. Is this possible? Thanks in advance for the help.
Kingroot and kingoroot are hot piles of garbage on oreo, and nougat. Pretty sure it only works up to lollipop.
Only way to root is to flash Magisk, and that requires an unlocked bootloader.
Dang. That sucks. Thanks for the response though
no need to install a custom recovery to get root. unlockbootloder densest effect ota. after u unlock ur bootloader you can flash a patch kernel that has Magisk
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Dang. That sucks. Thanks for the response though
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I just ordered this phone also. You should be able to get your bootloader unlocked with a service. See threads.
I sure hope so. Cause i plan on doing some stuff with this device.
Unlocking the bootloader is not difficult, but then there is a stupid bootloader unlocked warning that comes every time the phone restarts. And supposedly there is no way to turn it off for Huawei phones
I came across this post on GitHub
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/issues/2534
I wanted to ask if I should continue using root or just relock my phone ?
tanzeel.ahmed1306 said:
I came across this post on GitHub
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/issues/2534
I wanted to ask if I should continue using root or just relock my phone ?
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Unlocking your bootloader and rooting your devices is a choice that you and only you can make. There are always risks when modifying your devices. When you unlock the bootloader on most devices it will void your warranty unless stated otherwise by the manufacturer.
When it comes to root access there is always a chance for things to stop working. That is why it is up to you to do your research and make an informed decision before taking any action.
To some people, including me, an unlockable bootloader and gaining root access over a device is a must. I am paying for it and I want to use my devices how I see fit.
If you are concerned about an issue that may arise because you have an unlocked bootloader and root access I always try to look at it from both sides. Why did I unlock the bootloader? Why did I root? Am I able to do what I intended to do or not?
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tanzeel.ahmed1306 said:
I came across this post on GitHub
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/issues/2534
I wanted to ask if I should continue using root or just relock my phone ?
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I'm kinda in the same boat. While I don't use GPay that often (and I can currently use it through Magisk), occasionally it would be nice for it to work without issue. However, the main reason I root is so that I can manually edit my HOSTS file to block ads.
Like fast69mopar mentioned, it's an individual preference. What do you gain by unlocking the bootloader and rooting?
In my opinion, the OP7T is a fantastic phone right from the get-go. So was the OP6T. Both phones I used for almost a full week before unlocking and rooting.
Got the OP7T a month ago and was faced with the same decision. All phones since Samsung Galaxy I have rooted.
Decided not to root the OP7T. So far couldn't be happier. Maybe missed it once. Everything working without issue is nice.
As for Ads.
Built in Private DNS in Android 10 with dns.adguard.com works pretty damn good.
I'm rooted, using magisk and edxposed with aosip. Definitely no loss of function comparing to stock. I don't use Google pay, but Samsung pay, bank apps, snapchat, everything works. Currently magisk and edxposed could be hidden without any loss of function when it comes to bank or paying apps. I don't use Google pay but safety net passes just fine with my setup
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Unlocking your bootloader and rooting your devices is a choice that you and only you can make. There are always risks when modifying your devices. When you unlock the bootloader on most devices it will void your warranty unless stated otherwise by the manufacturer.
When it comes to root access there is always a chance for things to stop working. That is why it is up to you to do your research and make an informed decision before taking any action.
To some people, including me, an unlockable bootloader and gaining root access over a device is a must. I am paying for it and I want to use my devices how I see fit.
If you are concerned about an issue that may arise because you have an unlocked bootloader and root access I always try to look at it from both sides. Why did I unlock the bootloader? Why did I root? Am I able to do what I intended to do or not?
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Thanks a lot for your response
I actually rooted because I wanted to use substratum themes and enable aux module in gcam. Apart from that no other reason.
So I guess I am not missing out on too much .
I actually unrooted my phone and relocked the bootloader.
But again thanks for the response!
I had unlocked the bootloader and tried a couple of custom ROMs a few months back but decided it isn't worth it because my main hindrance of adblocking is addressed using DNS and any unneeded app can be disabled using adb. On the flip side, I need Widevine L1 for Netflix/Prime and no custom ROM can offer that on the 7T.
Makes more sense to me to stay within the walled garden, especially with the higher risk brought about by rogue Android apps that are now far too prevelent. The mods too are not that much value adding than it was may be when I first started using custom ROMs nearly a decade ago.