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Hello!
I would like to know what did you choose to put on your Mi6, and how you're experience has been any of the three specific versions of the ROM. I am getting my Mi6 this week, and then, I'll be requesting the bootloader to be unlocked which would take a few more days.
I have been reading threads related of the three options that are available, but it would be good to have a thread which compares and discuss potential benefits when it comes to making a decision about which ROM to flash.
1. MIUI 9 Global ROM (Stable Version or Developer Version)
http://en.miui.com/download-326.html
This would be the more straightforward choice, and probably the Mi6 will come with it for me (unless it will have a fake ROM from GearBest then I will need to change it anyway). Therefore, either I could choose to stay on the Global ROM or consider the two options below which I want to.
2. MIUI 9 from Xiaomi.eu (Based on Chinese Beta)
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/7-9-21-22.41658/
I was strongly considering installing this as Xiaomi.eu has been around for a long time, and they have been compiling their ROM without any bloatware from MIUI 9 Global ROM. It sounds like a great option for long term use with regular updates, experienced developers and not having to keep trying different ROMs.
3. MIUI 9 (Epic ROM) by Mr. Raines (Xiaomi.eu Version or Global Version)
http://www.epicrom.pro/#sagit
Going by the description, it seems that there are lots of optimisations and features included and retained from MIUI from Xiaomi.eu while removing the bloatware further. And I am converging towards wanting to go for this ROM.
i.e, MIUI 9 with DOZE enabled, New apps added to OTA and MODs, Optimizations on TWRP installation and GAPPS, Better Intelligent CPU management and RAM. Gapps Pico pre-installed.
Now, it seems that this ROM has two variations now. If I understand this correctly, first they take the above Xiaomi.eu ROM and tune it further. But I also noticed that they started another thread with Epic ROM based on MIUI Global Version which offers the same tuning but from Xiaomi Global ROM.
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If we can just get some experienced feedback and recommendations in, and keep the discussion going then it would make the decision a lot easier. And I do wish to set my phone up and then, not really have to deal with changing ROMs every few months or so.
Let me know! Thanks.
p.s. Given that the kernel is out, and when a stable official Lineage OS ROM makes its way to us, then that would be an interesting option too, but I don't mind the MIUI interface as long as it is optimised as much as it can be.
Firstly sorry for my english, but i want to help you. I tried all these roms multiple times. Because i think my phone's standby battery drain is awful. I started with global beta and with this rom battery drain at night %6-8. And then read couple of thoughts about xiaomi.eu rom, i wanted to try. Yes, there was no bloatware, similar performance, little bit worse camera quality and a few differences(cause based on chinese beta). But my phone's standby drain was %5-6. Not a big difference. Then i saw epic rom and i tried. Again, no bloatware, similar perfrmance etc. and some extras like built-in ads blocker. Roms info said better battery performance, doze enabled etc. but unfortunately im disappointed again. Battery drain was %5-6 at night(wifi,gps,nfc etc. everything off). Although, I have friends who say they are happy with epic rom. My suggestion is, you should try global beta first and then try epic rom for benefits. Now, i am on global beta cause i dont to want to try anymore different roms and custom roms benefits are not that important for me. İ hope i could help.
I've got the exact same problem as ozguremek12 with battery standby on all roms... it seems like the phone doesn't enter deep sleep state on miui.
There's not THAT much difference between them tbh, I'd go with the global one just because it saves you the hassle of having to unlock your bootloader. I've yet to try Lineage, which I will once Oreo build is available for this device.
well, I have tried all of MIUI ROMS (dev,stable, china, global) and also MIUI.EU and to tell the truth global dev suit me the most but with root
If you uninstall few bloatware you will achieve ca 2 days standby and 6h SOT
I was only with MIUI because of FBE (which MIUI.EU didn't have), but now when most custom ROM offer encryption , to tell the truth, I can't see anything to stick with MIUI(maybe if someone need bootloader locked)
I found more bugs in global dev than some custom ROMS eg Lineageos from @xiaobai112220 is really nice and stable
At theese moment I am in Mokee ROM and I am happy.
PS.I wasn't able to get lower than 0,6% battery drain per hour during the night.
I`ve been using epic rom for about 2 months now.
It is very stable, absolutely everything works and I also get around 4 to 4:30 sot everyday - which is quite decent imo.
The only bug I experienced is on the stock calendar app - when I choose the "all day" option when creating a event, it switches to the year of 1969 - so I installed google calendar and now everything is 100%.
The camera quality is stunning as well.
This is my recommendation.
Global stable has too much bloatware.
wojtoo said:
well, I have tried all of MIUI ROMS (dev,stable, china, global) and also MIUI.EU and to tell the truth global dev suit me the most but with root
If you uninstall few bloatware you will achieve ca 2 days standby and 6h SOT
I was only with MIUI because of FBE (which MIUI.EU didn't have), but now when most custom ROM offer encryption , to tell the truth, I can't see anything to stick with MIUI(maybe if someone need bootloader locked)
I found more bugs in global dev than some custom ROMS eg Lineageos from @xiaobai112220 is really nice and stable
At theese moment I am in Mokee ROM and I am happy.
PS.I wasn't able to get lower than 0,6% battery drain per hour during the night.
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- what ROM are you using ? Can you give me the link sir?
I am using Mokee with donation package
Also some changes with built in Aegis and few google services modifications ( with mytoolpro)
Hey guys just ordered my 5t should be here next week, anything I should know about it? I’ve rooted and used custom roms before. Main questions would be, should I decrypt the phone or leave it encrypted? Also can I use substratum on stock/rooted?
First you made a great purchase in the 5T it Trump's alot of other flagships in many areas.
Personally I'm running Decrypted but was at first running encrypted, with root, personally I would go with Decrypted, however some rooms force encyption (So you will then need to flash dm-verity after rom flash) but that is all as I said rom dependable.
As for Substratum yes you can run on Stock Rooted as far as I'm aware, as I'm currently on Hydrogen beta 3 & running Substratum just fine.
Enjoy your 5T :good:
You should try the starwars limited edition theme on your new device
It looks like the international forum is pretty dead compared to indian, there are no non-miui custom roms at all.
Is it possible to install indian model custom rom on global version? Thanks.
There's a reason for that.
Not too long ago we had one combined forum for ROM development but when Joyeuse was released, (Curtana was released a couple of months earlier), custom ROM rookies who weren't sure what they were doing, were bricking their phones by flashing the wrong device specific tools and/or ROMs.
A retrospective change was made to the forum structure to try and help the rookies and the result was the separation of Indian and Global versions.
A few short weeks later, a smart developer unified the device trees for both versions, (Joyeuse and Curtana), so that ROMs, and tools, could be built that would work on either device without issue. These ROMs are tagged with the code "Miatoll".
So long story short, due to history of the forums, it appears that there is very little development for Joyeuse, but in reality, nearly all Note 9 developers are now using the stable Miatoll tree and there are just as many ROMs available for both the Indian and the Global versions of the Note 9 Pro.
Hope this helps clarify your, (and anyone else that follows), concerns around ROM development for the Global version.
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There's a reason for that.
Not too long ago we had one combined forum for ROM development but when Joyeuse was released, (Curtana was released a couple of months earlier), custom ROM rookies who weren't sure what they were doing, were bricking their phones by flashing the wrong device specific tools and/or ROMs.
A retrospective change was made to the forum structure to try and help the rookies and the result was the separation of Indian and Global versions.
A few short weeks later, a smart developer unified the device trees for both versions, (Joyeuse and Curtana), so that ROMs, and tools, could be built that would work on either device without issue. These ROMs are tagged with the code "Miatoll".
So long story short, due to history of the forums, it appears that there is very little development for Joyeuse, but in reality, nearly all Note 9 developers are now using the stable Miatoll tree and there are just as many ROMs available for both the Indian and the Global versions of the Note 9 Pro.
Hope this helps clarify your, (and anyone else that follows), concerns around ROM development for the Global version.
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Thank you for the detailed answer
I'm kinda confused about the kernels now..In a ROM post, do I simply install the kernel given, even though it's not saying that it's specifically only for Joyeuse?
For example here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-9-pro/development/gsi-t4165873
"2. Download vbmeta from here and flash it in fastboot like this:
fastboot --disable-verity --disable-verification flash vbmeta vbmeta_note9s.img (IF YOU DONT DO THIS STEP, VOLTE AND OK GOOGLE WONT WORK!)"
I'm not really sure what is vbmeta, and it also says note9s, so once again just trying to verify if it's ok and I won't brick my phone
msacco4 said:
Thank you for the detailed answer
I'm kinda confused about the kernels now..In a ROM post, do I simply install the kernel given, even though it's not saying that it's specifically only for Joyeuse?
For example here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-9-pro/development/gsi-t4165873
"2. Download vbmeta from here and flash it in fastboot like this:
fastboot --disable-verity --disable-verification flash vbmeta vbmeta_note9s.img (IF YOU DONT DO THIS STEP, VOLTE AND OK GOOGLE WONT WORK!)"
I'm not really sure what is vbmeta, and it also says note9s, so once again just trying to verify if it's ok and I won't brick my phone
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My suggestion would be to forget about GSI's and choose one or the 20 or so ROM's that have been built speficially for our device.
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My suggestion would be to forget about GSI's and choose one or the 20 or so ROM's that have been built speficially for our device.
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By specifically built rom you mean unified rom, or one that specifically states that supports joyeuse?
msacco4 said:
By specifically built rom you mean unified rom, or one that specifically states that supports joyeuse?
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Either of Miatoll or Joyeuse build will be good.
I'm not a dev, but I believe ROM's built on the Miatoll device tree may even be slightly better than Joyeuse due to the wider take up of development.
I take photos quite a lot and I don't play games that much. Any rom suggestion for me?
I mostly use google apps personally and for university!
foneiamone said:
I take photos quite a lot and I don't play games that much. Any rom suggestion for me?
I mostly use google apps personally and for university!
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Use debloated miui 11. Good roms are MIUI eu 11.0.11 and MiuiMix 11.0.11 (favorite). It's okay with stock kernel but I use agni kernel. Here's a page with many resources for curtana in one place but be careful before installing anything you haven't seen anyone using.
Curtana Premium
Almost forgot... You can use gcam for slightly more detailed photos than miui camera. There are numerous versions. Check out curtana photography in telegram. Personally I only use gcam for raw images. But for quick shots that you won't be doing pixel peeping on, stock camera is enough.
Hello ftriends, I'm a little confused, are all the ROMs on CurtanaGang valid for the international, European version of the phone? I am very interested in this. I have a new Redmi Note 9 pro bought in Romania. Thanks
Hellera said:
Hello ftriends, I'm a little confused, are all the ROMs on CurtanaGang valid for the international, European version of the phone? I am very interested in this. I have a new Redmi Note 9 pro bought in Romania. Thanks
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That website is not known to a lot of people. Roms made for miatoll will work on your phone. Be careful to NEVER install a rom that's made for curtana only.
The roms listed usually have a support or discussion page linked so look for it. Information in the changelogs can also help you decide. Just make sure that you confirm a rom will work on your phone. The installation guide or the rom thread will usually tell which phone the rom is made for. Look for it and post questions there if possible.
Oh! You said you have a new phone... Don't do anything regarding flashing ROMs before you unlock the bootloader.
twistyplain said:
That website is not known to a lot of people. Roms made for miatoll will work on your phone. Be careful to NEVER install a rom that's made for curtana only.
The roms listed usually have a support or discussion page linked so look for it. Information in the changelogs can also help you decide. Just make sure that you confirm a rom will work on your phone. The installation guide or the rom thread will usually tell which phone the rom is made for. Look for it and post questions there if possible.
Oh! You said you have a new phone... Don't do anything regarding flashing ROMs before you unlock the bootloader.
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Thank you @twistyplain for your detailed answer, I understood. For now my big-big problem is unlocking bootloader... I'm trying hard for three weeks without any result...everytime it saying "wait for 168 hours..." I know I must not sign out from Mi account, don't reset phone...etc... but nothing, same 168 hours to wait... I don't know what to do anymore... any advice is welcome! Thank you.
Hellera said:
Thank you @twistyplain for your detailed answer, I understood. For now my big-big problem is unlocking bootloader... I'm trying hard for three weeks without any result...everytime it saying "wait for 168 hours..." I know I must not sign out from Mi account, don't reset phone...etc... but nothing, same 168 hours to wait... I don't know what to do anymore... any advice is welcome! Thank you.
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I used these instructions to unlock my bootloader. My phone came with miui 11 but these instructions should work with Miui 12 also.
How to unlock & root Redmi 9S & 9 Pro using official tools only - fully working
How to unlock & root Redmi 9S & 9 Pro using official tools only - fully working MOD NOTE: This guide is only for devices with Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets, NOT MediaTek! This tutorial guides you through unlocking and rooting your Redmi 9 Pro &...
forum.xda-developers.com
twistyplain said:
I used these instructions to unlock my bootloader. My phone came with miui 11 but these instructions should work with Miui 12 also.
How to unlock & root Redmi 9S & 9 Pro using official tools only - fully working
How to unlock & root Redmi 9S & 9 Pro using official tools only - fully working MOD NOTE: This guide is only for devices with Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets, NOT MediaTek! This tutorial guides you through unlocking and rooting your Redmi 9 Pro &...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Thanks again @twistyplain, I know all these steps to unlock ... it doesn't work unlocked. My phone came with MIUI-11 but it was updated to MIUI-12. Probably because the SIM card is not activated on their server (server error ... etc) and is not activated after restart, reset (three times!). Maybe it will work with another SIM card...I'll try it...
Hellera said:
Thanks again @twistyplain, I know all these steps to unlock ... it doesn't work unlocked. My phone came with MIUI-11 but it was updated to MIUI-12. Probably because the SIM card is not activated on their server (server error ... etc) and is not activated after restart, reset (three times!). Maybe it will work with another SIM card...I'll try it...
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I think that's the problem. You must make sure that the sim card to be activated is able to send an international SMS (Mandatory) and it should (maybe) be the active data sim. When you try to activate it make sure you're using mobile data using that Sim card to be safe. Also, try to activate it without another Sim installed.
My primary Sim card activated properly the first time but Sim 2 has never successfully activated. Every time I reboot it tries to activate Sim 2 but always fails. I just wait for it to fail and clear the error message because it affects nothing.
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Use debloated miui 11. Good roms are MIUI eu 11.0.11 and MiuiMix 11.0.11 (favorite).
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Hi there, so where can i found those?
I'm on the same train, i'm searching a debloated firmware for my new 9 pro.
From what i gather through forums and posts is that the Havoc-OS is the custom firmware+official with the less issues, unless those you mention are better.
I searched both rom subforums but i can't find them.
The closest i find is this which for some weird reason doesn't have as many posts as one could expect Lol
[ROM]-MiuiMiX_2.2.0_joyeuse-[Android 10 - MIUI 12]
I'm not involved in MiuiMiX team nor its development. I only love and would like to share this fantastic work. Hope you enjoy it. * Your warranty is... still valid? * * I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, * thermonuclear...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Hi there, so where can i found those?
I'm on the same train, i'm searching a debloated firmware for my new 9 pro.
From what i gather through forums and posts is that the Havoc-OS is the custom firmware+official with the less issues, unless those you mention are better.
I searched both rom subforums but i can't find them.
The closest i find is this which for some weird reason doesn't have as many posts as one could expect Lol
[ROM]-MiuiMiX_2.2.0_joyeuse-[Android 10 - MIUI 12]
I'm not involved in MiuiMiX team nor its development. I only love and would like to share this fantastic work. Hope you enjoy it. * Your warranty is... still valid? * * I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, * thermonuclear...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Havoc is AOSP meaning it is based on vanilla Android (not miui). It has a large thread on xda so you can browse that to know about the rom. Official means that it's the one recognized by havoc os developers -- not that it's in any way affiliated with xiaomi. The AOSP rom that most people agree is better than most is Evolution X. However, better than other AOSP roms doesn't mean it's better than miui based ROMs. I always use roms based on stock hence the reason i recommend them. They're generally more stable and require much less effort to get going.
Regarding the source of MiuiMix, you can follow the telegram link in the thread you just posted just under "We follow also other devices, you can know more and update in our telegram channel". I won't repost the link because I'm not sure it's even allowed. When you get there search for your device codename. For instance mine is curtana so i just type #curtana in the search box snd i see a list of the roms released for my device.
Miui eu has a dedicated website so look for it.
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Havoc is AOSP meaning it is based on vanilla Android (not miui). It has a large thread on xda so you can browse that to know about the rom. Official means that it's the one recognized by havoc os developers -- not that it's in any way affiliated with xiaomi. The AOSP rom that most people agree is better than most is Evolution X. However, better than other AOSP roms doesn't mean it's better than miui based ROMs. I always use roms based on stock hence the reason i recommend them. They're generally more stable and require much less effort to get going.
Regarding the source of MiuiMix, you can follow the telegram link in the thread you just posted just under "We follow also other devices, you can know more and update in our telegram channel". I won't repost the link because I'm not sure it's even allowed. When you get there search for your device codename. For instance mine is curtana so i just type #curtana in the search box snd i see a list of the roms released for my device.
Miui eu has a dedicated website so look for it.
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Thank you for all the info!
Yeah, i think i will go the same root and use MiuiMix which is a stock based rom, that's why i asked where did you get the ones with miui 11 since i can't find them on sourceforge.(there is only a curtana 11.0.9)
I think i made up my mind and since i have joyeuse i will go with the MiuiMix miui 12 pointed in the thread linked above.
R00tFreak said:
Thank you for all the info!
Yeah, i think i will go the same root and use MiuiMix which is a stock based rom, that's why i asked where did you get the ones with miui 11 since i can't find them on sourceforge.(there is only a curtana 11.0.9)
I think i made up my mind and since i have joyeuse i will go with the MiuiMix miui 12 pointed in the thread linked above.
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Good choice. Im using it right now. It seems to be a nice rom. Better than eu in ram management. Dark theme has some bugs but I don't use it because it has no energy saving for ips display.
Hi, i'm waiting for official Pixel Experince custom rom for the Redmi note 9 pro (joyeuse), I asked them on their twitter account they told me to wait, you can do the same it will convince them to do
twistyplain said:
Good choice. Im using it right now. It seems to be a nice rom. Better than eu in ram management. Dark theme has some bugs but I don't use it because it has no energy saving for ips display.
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Hi twisty where can i find MiuiMix 11.0.11 ? i searched xda but could only find mention of it, I got my note9s for xmas and am waiting for the bootloader to be unlocked but then i want a stable rom that i can use for daily use as i use it for work also.
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Hi twisty where can i find MiuiMix 11.0.11 ? i searched xda but could only find mention of it, I got my note9s for xmas and am waiting for the bootloader to be unlocked but then i want a stable rom that i can use for daily use as i use it for work also.
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Go here and search for #curtana
You'll see the ROMs posted for your phone. There are five so far.
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Go here and search for #curtana
You'll see the ROMs posted for your phone. There are five so far.
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thanks, i dont really use telegram, but i have downloaded 11.0.11 would you say to leave the version 12s for now?
t3rm3y said:
thanks, i dont really use telegram, but i have downloaded 11.0.11 would you say to leave the version 12s for now?
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I upgraded to MiuiMix 12.0.2 and it's been perfect for almost three weeks now. I don't use dark mode because it's the only bug i know to exist with this rom. And I can't blame the MiuiMix devs because it's a xiaomi fault.
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I upgraded to MiuiMix 12.0.2 and it's been perfect for almost three weeks now. I don't use dark mode because it's the only bug i know to exist with this rom. And I can't blame the MiuiMix devs because it's a xiaomi fault.
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May I ask if you use wifi calling and if so does it work as well with MiuiMix as it does with Miui ?
HiQual said:
May I ask if you use wifi calling and if so does it work as well with MiuiMix as it does with Miui ?
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Never used it
Hi
Does anyone know if there are any more custom roms for Mi 10T (apart from LOS 17.1 which has a thread in the forum)?
I'd really like to see PixelExperience for our devices. I hope we get it one day!
As far as I have seen in many telegram groups, devs are not that Interested in developing anything for this phone before a11 comes out as stable.
One guy did pixel experience plus, but without support, and when he got a warning in lineage os group because someone else posted about pe+ in wrong group, he deleted everything, so no pe+ for now.
All in all, don't ask them that question in telegram groups, you'll get countless whines about servers not being free (i was building roms on my 10years old pc, i don't know why they need servers), and it will end with "why don't you do it yourself".
Truth is, they have no clue - one of them can't build kernel for weeks now, so based on that I don't think we'll see any success with custom roms for this phone anytime soon...