Develop Bugs

Anyone have Handcent delete all your messages for no reason?

I had a ton of text message threads in Handcent.. Just rebooted my phone like I do all the time. And all of a sudden they were gone! I tried to do a data restore from Titanium but that never seems to work for texts
Not the end of the world.. Just curios as to why it happened..

I have read before that sometimes HC will FC if too many messages are present on a thread, I guess this could be qualified as another side effect for a database that has become way too large for HC to handle.

This just happened to me again. After a manual reboot.. ALL of my text messages are gone. They're gone from the stock messaging app too so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I did a Google search and see other people are having this problem as well with just the stock messaging app. Any ideas on a fix? I'm missing some important text messages.... ugh..

Just noticed my saved wireless networks are gone after the reboot as well....
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

thenags said:
This just happened to me again. After a manual reboot.. ALL of my text messages are gone. They're gone from the stock messaging app too so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I did a Google search and see other people are having this problem as well with just the stock messaging app. Any ideas on a fix? I'm missing some important text messages.... ugh..
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I can't help you with the root cause of the problem - I've never had it happen to me but a couple of friends have (all msgs wiped).
If the messages are missing from Handcent, they will also be missing from the stock app - there's no difference because the messages are (or should be) in the same place and you're just choosing to view/send them with Handcent or the stock app (or another of your choosing).
I CAN, however, help you try to minimize the effects of this happening in the future, as well as keep multiple records of your SMS...
I use two apps, together. The first one, called SMS Backup & Restore, by developer Ritesh Sahu has been a god send for me. You can backup all your messages and restore them, fully - it even gets the conversation threads in the right order by date upon recovery. In addition to manual backups, you can schedule backups.
While backing up is fast, I have to warn you that deleting all current messages (if you have a lot) and restoring them can take time. Restoring them, however, shows you a status bar so you can track its progress while deleting them just says "deleting" and you never know how long it will be. (The same dev also has a sister program for phone call logs - it's lightning fast and just as reliable/effective).
The other app I use is called "SMS Backup" by dev Christoph Studer (if you have trouble finding either of these in the market, look them up by searching for the dev's names). What this app does is work quietly in the background to send / upload your SMS to your Gmail. You can set which label you want to apply to them in Gmail, and then in Gmail set a filter to have them skip right over your inbox. This app also lets you have them appear as read when they are uploaded. All in all, you never even realize it's working and your Gmail will never be the wiser, until you have to refer back to an old SMS - maybe a phone number or address or some other vital info sent to you over text... and you can just go and find it at that time safely recorded in your Gmail.
I hope that helps!
Best of luck. If you're having trouble beyond disappearing texts, you may have other more serious underlying issues...

The problem with the backup apps are obviously I need to run them. Who thinks to do a backup prior to doing nothing more than a reboot?! It's crazy that the phone just deletes them on it's own. Searching on Google shows that this problem is wayyyy too common.

thenags said:
The problem with the backup apps are obviously I need to run them. Who thinks to do a backup prior to doing nothing more than a reboot?! It's crazy that the phone just deletes them on it's own. Searching on Google shows that this problem is wayyyy too common.
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who will do backups on a regular basis? folks that have lost data in the past. the more significant the loss, the better their backup habits.
i do backups. it seems the previous poster does. heck, i bet you start doing backups too.
the more you work with technology the more likely you are to ensure that your important data is at least duplicated. things like pictures, audio, video, text should be considered. this goes for desktops, laptops, netbooks, phones, etc. if it stores data, runs an OS and a users interacts with it...it will fail eventually.
sms backup works quite nicely. i found it after i lost my text messgs once.

I run Titanium every single night by schedule and nandroid every other night. I also have automated backups on all my PC's. But I send and recieve at least 1000 texts a day.. So when my texts randomly delete themselves at 5pm.... A backup made at 2am does me no good for my text messages....

Then modify your backup routine. I your backups won't recover your data...you are using the wrong tool. Sms backup can backup every X hrs.
Trust me..there is always a way to protect data that you find important.
I agree, the app shouldn't erase your data.
you can complain and cry....or...complain and recover.
The choice is solely up to you.
Good luck.

I back up all of my texts to my gmail, makes for great searching!

DraginMagik said:
Then modify your backup routine. I your backups won't recover your data...you are using the wrong tool. Sms backup can backup every X hrs.
Trust me..there is always a way to protect data that you find important.
I agree, the app shouldn't erase your data.
you can complain and cry....or...complain and recover.
The choice is solely up to you.
Good luck.
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Where is the option to backup every X hours? I've been through the settingss several times and don't see it

I've been using Handcent for 1.5 years now with no issue but just saw this with a customer who has the Thunderbolt. All messages are gone and she was not on the latest version which is 3.9 now. I've got 3.82 on my Evo so I'm going to leave it there till I know what's going on with this.

Problems with Whatsapp on a new phone with the same phone number

I'm editing my original message. I'm keeping it below in case it provides detail but I apologize that it was too complex. Here are three simplified questions:
1) My old phone stopped working. I have a new phone. Where are old Whatsapp messages (are they stored on internal memory and thus unretrievable, available on Whatsapp servers)?
2) I have a copy of all files on my old phone. It's not recent but if I have a Whatsapp database file is there an external viewer to see my old messages? I read about a "key" but I don't have my old phone.
3) It was a month gap before I finally had a working phone. Why are messages that were "waiting" in some Whatsapp groups now visible to me only by sender and thus completely out of chronological order?
Hello,
My unrooted Galaxy Note stopped working. It was replaced by an unrooted Galaxy Note. I've kept the same number but Whatsapp is giving me problems. Thank you for any help.
1) When I installed Whatsapp on the new phone all old conversations were missing in all chat groups. Why?
2) I thought that Whatsapp autosaved databases nightly to the SD card. My SD card only has a few database files from years ago and this was on an older phone (not either of the Galaxy Notes I've owned). Why?
3) If Whatsapp stores database files to the internal memory I can't do much (as my old device did not turn on and is gone). But why then does the new phone not yet have a Whatsapp folder (or any databases) in the internal memory?
4) On the new phone now, only chat groups with new conversations were visible when I installed Whatsapp. I'm assuming that the missing chat groups will appear when they get new conversations?
5) In one chat group chronology was lost. All conversations by one sender were followed by all conversations by another. Why? It's impossible to make sense of what is being said.
6) Because of the above I thought I might remove and reinstall Whatsapp? Would I lose any "unread" messages (so far most of my messages are "unread" as I am trying to sort out why I am having so many problems with Whatsapp)? If I save a backup before removing Whatsapp would it save the "unread" messages?
7) I have a database file on an external drive from a few weeks ago. I read that attempting to merge it with the "unread" messages on Whatsapp on my new phone probably would not work. Is that correct?
8) I assume with encryption there is no way to view my old messages right (that old database file on the external drive is useless and there is no viewer to view the messages and images)? That bothers me a lot as some last communications from family members who passed away were in that important database file.
9) In the future what should I do to preserve my Whatsapp messages, pictures, and groups?
10) At least Whatsapp didn't delete all my messages that were unread. My text (non Whatsapp) messages and phone messages in the gap between sending in the old phone and getting the new one are completely gone so I don't even know who wrote to me or called me. It seems like none of that gets saved to the SD card?
I appreciate your help very much.

To update why I am asking. When my phone stopped working my new phone had none of my old Whatsapp message. Some of the communications were final messages I exchanged from people who have passed away. Is there any way to restore those messages?

nopgalaxy said:
To update why I am asking. When my phone stopped working my new phone had none of my old Whatsapp message. Some of the communications were final messages I exchanged from people who have passed away. Is there any way to restore those messages?
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When I changed phones but kept my number, I installed Whatsapp on my new phone and it asked if I wanted to retrieve my old messages and I hit yes and it downloaded them

Thank you for the reply. It didn't ask me for that unfortunately. Do you think it might be worth reinstalling Whatsapp or would I lose the messages I've gotten over the last few days if I "retrieve old messages" now? Thank you very much.

Hi cloud on Honor 8 pro has only two items for backup

Hey fellow Honor 8 pro users
I have observed that honor 8 pro has Hi cloud but is only limited to contacts and call log. Is it same for you all or is there a work around to backup more items like apps, home screen state etc.
I once happened to stumble upon a more elaborate hicloud, could select more items but it was painfully slow and my ISP had to do some maintenance same day and it kind of got failed (after spending whole morning and noon backing up fhe data)
I cannot find that option again, it allowed me to back up contacts, call log, apps and app data, homescreen state and photos (except for the camera forder perhaps due to the large size of the pics... idk why the omission)
All I can find now is a message that says this isn't enabled for your region.
I like inhouse cloud apps because it automates the restoration after a flash or factory reset. Convenient and no need to bother about forgetting an item or two during backups because it is a one time check. And the phone returns to earlier state with all your customizations.
Note I want to collect as many responses as possible and forward this to Huawei so they can implement a full fledged cloud backup in India. So please be vocal.
PS : This is only regarding 'HiCloud', yes there are third party apps but I like inhouse cloud backup like icloud, Xiaomi's mi cloud etc. So please do not start with who uses that anymore when there are this and that.
Thank You.

SMS message order and phone not ringing on sleep screen, Android 10, Pixel 2XL

OK, so I like many others have had some serious problems with the Android 10 in place update. So I decided to do a factory reset, and this time, actually rely (and pray) on Google backup and restore.
Shockingly, restore worked pretty well, and it generally put the phone back to the way it was.
I did the wipe/restore because since the Q update, phone calls don't show up on the sleep screen. The phone remains black, and I have no idea that people are calling if I have it on silent. The restore didn't fix it unfortunately....
But what did happen, is that when SMS was restored, the only app I can see them correctly in is Google Messages. I'd been using Chomp for years, but the messages load completely randomly there. I tried deleting Chomp, clearing its cache and storage, but nothing works. Also tried Textra and its random as well.
Obviously, the SMS database is loaded correctly as it works fine in Googles base app
No idea what to do from here. Any thoughts appreciated.....

Where's the app to transfer data?

I just got my Mi 10 t pro after buying it in the singles day sales. I can't for the life of me find the app that I would use to transfer data (contacts, sms, photos at a push). I'm upgrading from an HTC U11. Googling for an answer suggests MiMover which isn't on the Xiaomi and can't be found in the Play store (from UK). ShareMe on the Mi 10 t pro has a "Mi Mover" icon inside it, but when I install Xiaomi ShareMe on the HTC, the MiMover icon isn't there.
Google backup doesn't work for me on the HTC (it shows "waiting to backup" which is possibly because the phone is encrypted).
Exporting my contacts on the HTC gave me a vef file which the Xiaomi doesn't recognise. Exporting my sms gave me an .hbk file which the xiaomi doesn't recognise.
Any clues / pointers would be welcome.
Thanks, PT

Answering my own question here:
The .vef file exported from my HTC is an encrypted vcf file. I was able to re-export this as a vcf and trasfer the file to the Xiaomi separately.
I then used SMS backup and recover to tranfer across sms and call logs.
I'm still shocked that I couldn't find / figure out the Xiaomi app to get this job done.
PT

Google backup does a really good job, most of the time. So there's really no need for a separate app. I don't know why your u11 didn't backup, but encryption isn't it, because 99% of phones today have encryption in system itself...

Sorry for the delayed reply. If you want to back up data on your Android phone to the computer easily, my suggestion is Coolmuster Android Backup Manager. Its free backup function can help us back up data like contacts, text messages, call logs, videos, music, photos, apps, ebooks from your Android phone to the computer via USB cable connecting easily. If you still has such problem, please try it. And hope it will work well on your phone.