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I have a Singapore variant of the tab S4 it makes and receives calls just fine over 3G but wont make them over LTE is VoLTE even possible on this? I travel the country and have ran into a few instances where I have LTE coverage but not 3G
It looks bad
Samsung has disabled VoLTE in every tablet that supports it, tab s3, s4, s6 and s7. It won't comment on this. I suggest contacting Samsung and asking for an update to address this issue. I understand there is a complex hack to accomplish this, but it involves editing a binary file.
If Samsung won't do it, maybe the carrier firmware can enable VoLTE?
AT&T says its Tab S4 variant will continue to work after their 3G shutdown.
Tab S4 (SM-T837A) is listed in their compatible devices:
https://www.att.com/idpassets/images/support/wireless/Devices-Working-on-ATT-Network.pdf
Maybe this means VoLTE is enabled for calling? Or they might mean it will keep working but only for data LTE.
There is no carrier tab s4 that will work for calls, and I don't think sms either! The carriers have a system in which you can have data/talk/text on a samsung Tab 3,4,5,6,7,8 if you also have a samsung phone.
Samsung also has a setting you can enable to make calls on your tablet if you also have a phone, if both devices are logged into your Samsung account. No security flaw there! Not sure if the phone must be Samsung too, but it would seem so!
I'm not going to say what I think about a manufacturer going out of its way to reverse a setting, intentionally crippling its flagship products, so customers need to purchase more stuff to obtain the expected functionality!
I did write to the CEO of Samsung Electronics, Co., Ltd.. I asked for a firmware update to enable VoLTE in the Tab S series beginning with the S3.
Earlier Tab S don't have compatible hardware. If you clear your browser data, so no one can tell you're a hacker, and google 'Samsung investor relations', you can find his name and address.
I'm not going to dox him here. But if anyone wants to write him, please be very civil, clean, upright, and simply ask for an update, followed by, "I only ask for Samsung to live up to its reputation! I think my request is more than reasonable! Thank you for taking your valuable time to read my message. Best Regards, name"
Don't use spinglish--words and phrases that mean one thing implied to mean something else. And example in reverse is when Dell dubbed one of its laptops exploding into flames, 'a thermal event'!
Just be direct, brief, polite and honest.
Samsung chat says:
Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Care. I’m D-- ....
... It will be updated in coming update. You will receive a notification on your tablet once it got updated.
8:36 PM When do you think the update will be?
8:37 PM Profile SEA Digital Messaging We don't have the exact information. Hope it will update will release in couple of weeks.
8:38 PM This is due to the 3G shutdown? That will work then, with the update I'll be able to download a phone app from the app store?
Thank you
8:38 PM Profile SEA Digital Messaging It is not about the 3G shutdown, the feature is not available on the tablet. Carrier have not permitted to use this feature on Samsung tablet. You can use caling feature on third party applications like WhatsApp ETC.
8:41 PM ok yes. Then I will wait for the update. Is this official it will be updated?
the tablet will be updated to download a phone app?
8:42 PM Profile SEA Digital Messaging Yes it will be official once the Update released you will get notification on your screen.
Once you get the Update it will update automatically to make the calls.
8:44 PM ok thank you D
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So maybe it'll be soon I'm hoping to use VoLTE for my tablet soon. Otherwise Singapore firmware might allow VoLTE calls currently? Why is that? I can't download or install or side-load any phone app currently.
edit update: I flashed to t-mobile using odin and that lets me send and receive texts just fine using messenger app. I use tello so I can place outbound calls over wifi too, so I can just use google voice for any other phone call inbound. I've heard other versions outside usa might be able to place calls though?? Suppose we'll get an update here soon anyway hopefully.
-Cat_F
There will be convoluted ways to get data/talk/text on the Tab S models without adding VoLTE compatibility.
awesome14 said:
There will be convoluted ways to get data/talk/text on the Tab S models without adding VoLTE compatibility.
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Cat_F said:
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Like calling on other devices, if both a phone and tablet are logged in to your Samsung account, you can use your tablet for Data/talk/txt, because it's actually using the phone.
I switched to the N9750 from a Galaxy S9+ (SM-G9650) from the same "family" (Hong Kong & Snapdragon) because I was so pleased with many of the firmware customizations present in the S9+, including the Hiya integration in the stock Dialer app. (You know it's there if there is a "Places" tab and if a contact search also searches businesses in your area.)
However, my N9750 sadly did not come with this feature, but I did notice that there is a second region option for this model (namely my beloved Hong Kong!)
Can anyone running the Hong Kong firmware comment on whether Hiya integration is there or not?
TIA!
waqqas.khokhar said:
I switched to the N9750 from a Galaxy S9+ (SM-G9650) from the same "family" (Hong Kong & Snapdragon) because I was so pleased with many of the firmware customizations present in the S9+, including the Hiya integration in the stock Dialer app. (You know it's there if there is a "Places" tab and if a contact search also searches businesses in your area.)
However, my N9750 sadly did not come with this feature, but I did notice that there is a second region option for this model (namely my beloved Hong Kong!)
Can anyone running the Hong Kong firmware comment on whether Hiya integration is there or not?
TIA!
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N9750(BRI) have hiya service
zjhao said:
N9750(BRI) have hiya service
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Really? Can you share a screenshot?
waqqas.khokhar said:
Really? Can you share a screenshot?
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here
zjhao said:
here
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Thank you. I checked my apps list and the Hiya service is not there, which is strange. I'm wondering if it is only installed for certain locales when the phone is initially set up?
Well, I've tried resetting my device to both TGY and BRI firmware (though they both show up the same in "About Phone") and I tried different locales in each, but still no sign of Hiya. I'll just hope that it shows up in a later update. It is even advertised by Samsung as "Smart Call" on their global and Canadian websites.
waqqas.khokhar said:
Well, I've tried resetting my device to both TGY and BRI firmware (though they both show up the same in "About Phone") and I tried different locales in each, but still no sign of Hiya. I'll just hope that it shows up in a later update. It is even advertised by Samsung as "Smart Call" on their global and Canadian websites.
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Out of topic. I also have a BRI N9750, I am wondering how do you manage to reset to TGY. I also do not see Hiya services on my BRI N9750
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Out of topic. I also have a BRI N9750, I am wondering how do you manage to reset to TGY. I also do not see Hiya services on my BRI N9750
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I should have used the correct terminology. I did a full reset and then flashed the TGY firmware. The two firmware files (BRI and TGY) were exactly the same size, so it was of little surprise that there was no difference as far as Hiya was concerned.
However, even though Hiya was not in my list of apps, when I searched my entire Settings for it, it did show up in my system apps, as did Smart Call. So both services are there, but they just don't seem to be implemented with the current phone app bundled with these firmware releases.
One thing to note about the TGY firmware (before anyone else takes the plunge) was that my signal bars dropped from 4-5 to just 1. I let the phone be for a good 10 minutes and this did not change. When I flashed back to BRI, the bars started off at 1, but then quickly reverted to 3 then 4. It could have been serendipity, but I can't say for sure...
waqqas.khokhar said:
I should have used the correct terminology. I did a full reset and then flashed the TGY firmware. The two firmware files (BRI and TGY) were exactly the same size, so it was of little surprise that there was no difference as far as Hiya was concerned.
However, even though Hiya was not in my list of apps, when I searched my entire Settings for it, it did show up in my system apps, as did Smart Call. So both services are there, but they just don't seem to be implemented with the current phone app bundled with these firmware releases.
One thing to note about the TGY firmware (before anyone else takes the plunge) was that my signal bars dropped from 4-5 to just 1. I let the phone be for a good 10 minutes and this did not change. When I flashed back to BRI, the bars started off at 1, but then quickly reverted to 3 then 4. It could have been serendipity, but I can't say for sure...
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I see, based on my experience with multi CSC firmware, BRI and TGY firmware are the same with multiple CSC included and it will only switch CSC when the correct sim is inserted. So no matter how many times you flash the firmware, it will stay the same CSC unless you are able to find workarounds.
To answer your question on Hiya, I believe it's also CSC dependent. The services are in the firmware (I have just searched), but it will only be active when the correct CSC is activated. I have been trying to find ways to switch to the TGY CSC to get Places and Smart Octopus but there isn't any working method yet. The Smart Call is advertised as a regional feature (you can find that statement the fine print) and I believe Hiya isn't available in Taiwan. It is available in HK so if the phone has TGY CSC it will might activate Smart Call and Places (since it is advertised in the HK Samsung page)
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I see, based on my experience with multi CSC firmware, BRI and TGY firmware are the same with multiple CSC included and it will only switch CSC when the correct sim is inserted. So no matter how many times you flash the firmware, it will stay the same CSC unless you are able to find workarounds.
To answer your question on Hiya, I believe it's also CSC dependent. The services are in the firmware (I have just searched), but it will only be active when the correct CSC is activated. I have been trying to find ways to switch to the TGY CSC to get Places and Smart Octopus but there isn't any working method yet. The Smart Call is advertised as a regional feature (you can find that statement the fine print) and I believe Hiya isn't available in Taiwan. It is available in HK so if the phone has TGY CSC it will might activate Smart Call and Places (since it is advertised in the HK Samsung page)
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I even tried the Samkey method and I got a "This model is NOT supported for CSC Change" error, even though the Samkey website mentioned the SM-N9750 as a supported model. I emailed the dev for clarification.
waqqas.khokhar said:
I even tried the Samkey method and I got a "This model is NOT supported for CSC Change" error, even though the Samkey website mentioned the SM-N9750 as a supported model. I emailed the dev for clarification.
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I went through Samkey as well and got the same results and also email the dev. Looks like the only way is to switch to TGY right now is to get a provisioned hk sim.
meowone said:
I see, based on my experience with multi CSC firmware, BRI and TGY firmware are the same with multiple CSC included and it will only switch CSC when the correct sim is inserted. So no matter how many times you flash the firmware, it will stay the same CSC unless you are able to find workarounds.
To answer your question on Hiya, I believe it's also CSC dependent. The services are in the firmware (I have just searched), but it will only be active when the correct CSC is activated. I have been trying to find ways to switch to the TGY CSC to get Places and Smart Octopus but there isn't any working method yet. The Smart Call is advertised as a regional feature (you can find that statement the fine print) and I believe Hiya isn't available in Taiwan. It is available in HK so if the phone has TGY CSC it will might activate Smart Call and Places (since it is advertised in the HK Samsung page)
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I went through Samkey as well and got the same results and also email the dev. Looks like the only way is to switch to TGY right now is to get a provisioned hk sim.
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So, an inactive SIM won't even do? So much for that idea
waqqas.khokhar said:
So, an inactive SIM won't even do? So much for that idea
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I tried that lol since I got one lying around and it keep asking for provision and it didn't change CSC.
My N9750 (I'm using it on T-Mobile in the US) has Hiya support. Volte and WiFi calling are also working. I'm on the Taiwan (BRI) CSC.
ajsmsg78 said:
My N9750 (I'm using it on T-Mobile in the US) has Hiya support. Volte and WiFi calling are also working. I'm on the Taiwan (BRI) CSC.
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Not to sound like I'm doubting you, but do you have the "Places" tab in your Phone app? Can you share a screenshot? Lastly, did you activate with the same t-mobile USA SIM card?
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I tried that lol since I got one lying around and it keep asking for provision and it didn't change CSC.
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SamKey 2.20.2 is out and IT WORKS! Go get 'em!
(I would have posted a screenshot but as per the procedure, my phone is almost blank and I'm still in the process of setting it back up--hopefully for the last time in a while!)
waqqas.khokhar said:
SamKey 2.20.2 is out and IT WORKS! Go get 'em!
(I would have posted a screenshot but as per the procedure, my phone is almost blank and I'm still in the process of setting it back up--hopefully for the last time in a while!)
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Nice, thanks for the headsup. Going to try it after back up.
Does anyone know which CSC on N9750 has the native call recording?
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Abu-khulzat said:
Does anyone know which CSC on N9750 has the native call recording?
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Neither CSC has native call recording.
meowone said:
Neither CSC has native call recording.
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ops I just got mine and was surprised HK version didn't had call recording! so, they removed it completely then!
Anyone has any solution for call recording with acceptable quality?
I think they removed network speed in status bar also completely!
I've got unlocked Note 10+ and I flashed the U firmware because of video calling that's missing on U1. Now I found that on T Mobile version there is no Smart Call and it is replaced by T Mobile NameID, which I consider inferior and I'd have to pay for full functionality.
Anybody knows if there is any way how to get the stock Samsung dialer with Smart Call back? I'd hate to flash the U1 ROM and go through the restore process again. Even with Samsung cloud, Google and SD backups it took me almost half day to get it set as I had it before.
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I've got unlocked Note 10+ and I flashed the U firmware because of video calling that's missing on U1. Now I found that on T Mobile version there is no Smart Call and it is replaced by T Mobile NameID, which I consider inferior and I'd have to pay for full functionality.
Anybody knows if there is any way how to get the stock Samsung dialer with Smart Call back? I'd hate to flash the U1 ROM and go through the restore process again. Even with Samsung cloud, Google and SD backups it took me almost half day to get it set as I had it before.
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My past experience with Samsung Smart Call, was that i found that even though, its baked into Samsung Firmware, it is Service Provider depended. to "activate /work".
I might be wrong, but i personally believe so, based on my experience.
Just to recap, my experiences with my old Note 8 and my Note 9 (both devices not rooted)
I also flashed Stock Samsung firmware .. different CSC onto these devices.
I found on both occasions i lost the function of th Smart Call.
( Hiya services), also Volte function etc etc.
I could see the Smart Call settings in firmware, but it was greyed out.
Could not enable it at all.
When i flashed my old Samsung Firmware (Service Provider CSC) Smart Call (Hiya services), was enabled again and working.
I'm sure in your case, you'll will find it's Service Provider depended.
Good luck.
willcor said:
My past experience with Samsung Smart Call, was that i found that even though, its baked into Samsung Firmware, it is Service Provider depended. to "activate /work".
I might be wrong, but i personally believe so, based on my experience.
I'm sure in your case, you'll will find it's Service Provider depended.
Good luck.
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The thing is, after I purchased and set up the phone on stock Samsung firmware, VoLTE and Smart Call worked perfectly fine. But stupid me wanted to try the video calling. I found that the video calling is not different than Google Duo and I will NEVER use RTT texts. I see no real advantage from using T Mo firmware in comparison with stock Samsung (provisioned for T Mo of course)
Actually quite the opposite. For me, the signal strength and battery life is practically the same on both and again, FOR ME Smart Call is much more useful than video call and RTT.
If anyone knows any benefits from keeping T Mo firmware over stock, please enlighten me. I really don't want to go through the flashing the whole thing and restoring dance again, but I'm afraid I will have to.
Stank0 said:
The thing is, after I purchased and set up the phone on stock Samsung firmware, VoLTE and Smart Call worked perfectly fine. But stupid me wanted to try the video calling. I found that the video calling is not different than Google Duo and I will NEVER use RTT texts. I see no real advantage from using T Mo firmware in comparison with stock Samsung (provisioned for T Mo of course)
Actually quite the opposite. For me, the signal strength and battery life is practically the same on both and again, FOR ME Smart Call is much more useful than video call and RTT.
If anyone knows any benefits from keeping T Mo firmware over stock, please enlighten me. I really don't want to go through the flashing the whole thing and restoring dance again, but I'm afraid I will have to.
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Ha, your post reminds me,
that when i flashed
my branded Samsung Firmware ( Voda CSC) with the Samsung unbranded Firmware,
The reason, was also to get video calling working.
As my branded device did not have video calling option on dialer.
I could only activate video, if someone else, video called me... only then the video option, would appear.!
I then afterwards, realized that i lost my Smart Call functions. and flashed back to the branded software.
This was on my Note 9.
So i had no video call option on dialer ,but Smart Call.
Now...
again, with my branded( Voda CSC) Note 10 +,
i see that my device has video calling on dial pad.....!
So, the Service Providers, chop and changed.
A year back, they disabled video calling option, from dial pad.
Now video calling is back on the dial pad plus Smart Calls is working fine.
Good luck
So.... I bit the bullet and flashed back the U1 firmware. The only thing I lost is the video calling. I still have RTT button on my dialer. Whether it works or not I haven't tried yet. I know it wasn't there on the original dialer when I purchased the phone. Maybe because I didn't flash USERDATA? Who knows.
I'm happy I've got Smart Call back.
CSC N975U
Good afternoon, I have the n975u model, my question is what firmware should I install, to get the smart call and video calls by duo?. Or is csc the one that has these functions active?
Thanks!!
excuse my english, google translator.
I have a Verizon Note10+ running Android 11 (3.1) I paid my cell off 4 mo ago. Verizon confirmed for me that my cell is carrier unlocked. I've tried everything to get the Smart Call app on my phone to work. The only thing I haven't tried is rooting it cause I don't know how. I have 3 versions of the apk and can't make them work. Can anyone help?
Mostly for built in call recording.
I had a S22/U1, I like the formfactor but it has no recording, so then I got a S22/E (snapdragon, india) version which works in the USA on verizon but sometimes signal just drops, and sometimes texts don't go through among other issues (recording is flawless).
I was looking into it and apparently the 'best' solution for S22 with recording (that works in USA) is to somehow get a rooted S22/U1 (USA version) and with root access you can manually edit the CSC file to turn on recording. But the challenge is getting a rooted U1, which can only be done with a paid service like sam PWND (as far as I know) and they are on pause now anyways....
So then I was thinking if all it takes is editing CSC then can I instead somehow load some files to my S22/E and make it have access to /U1 features (so calls don't drop etc.), and then take advantage of the root (which /E has with unlocked bootloader) to subsequently edit the CSC and turn recording back on?
Does anyone have any ideas or thoughts? I read that the modem is the same so in principle this can work?
From different sources, I have learned that by changing the CSC code I can enable the call recording feature. But on this website (https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s20-fe/firmware/#SM-G7810), I can only see Hong Kong and Chinese Rom for my model number. So, I don't know how can I achieve the call recording feature on my phone.
Can anyone help, please?
try this app called Cube ACR.
I use it on my S20 Ultra and practically every other phone I've had too and it works on every make/model for me. I'm in the US so keep that in mind but might as well try it.