I've had this problem for a while, but I'm pretty much fed up with it to this point that I've decided to ask about it. I don't know if this is restricted to the TP2, but I'd imagine it's probably a Windows 6 problem more than the device.
The issue is that when I play any full screen application (one that covers the top and bottom menu bars), typically games, sometimes it loses it's status as the active window but still remains in front of everything else. This means that where ever I pres on the screen, it will select whatever is behind the game and therefore gives me no ability to select the game itself.
This is most prominent with the keyboard button in the bottom bar. It's not uncommon for me to have to press something on the edge of the screen in one of these applications only to have the keyboard pop up and garble all of the graphics. Once this occurs, there is no real easy way to go back. I have to open up task manager and either close the full screen app or activate it again. Another time this becomes a big issue is if I'm on the program tab of TF3D (which frequently you are after you've opened an app) and basically anywhere I press just starts opening applications left and right.
Does anyone know why this occurs and is there a fix for it?
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Just easing into life with WP7 and one thing i've noticed is that Zune seems to remain in the background no matter how one exits the interface (evidenced by pressing volume rocker on the start screen - the mini zune interface appears at the top of the screen... with my music sitting paused, rather than stopped).
Is there any way to truly exit the player (aside from rebooting the device)?
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Why would you care to?
The OS is managing this closely one would assume as it's a core feature in the device...
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Why would you care to?
The OS is managing this closely one would assume as it's a core feature in the device...
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Only a minor issue but i have no need to see the zune interface appear at the top of the start screen everytime i adjust the system volume throughout the day, with a song paused at the moment i stopped listening to it. Im not fussed if zune wishes to remain open in the background, as internet explorer seems to do - i just dont need it showing itself during my interactions with the device.
Note it only does this after using Zune. If i turn the device off and restart, the zune interface is not present on the start screen when adjusting volume - until i again enter zune to listen to music.
Spergin' much?
I don't see why this is a problem really? I mean the box size remains exactly the same even if you have a song playing or not?
Buy the iPhone if you hate Zune
There is no method that I know of at the moment but they might add one when they add proper multitasking.
Thanks to the work by a lot of people in @Moriatier 's "Frankenstein Phone" thread, over here, many of us have been able to flash our V30's from other variants to the US998 variant. An unexpected discovery (for me at least) was that the US998 has Mirrorlink which is not present in at least some of the other variants.
What is Mirrorlink?
It is an interface designed to allow a cell phone to interact with a car head unit. It is similar in purpose to Android Auto (AA) or Apple Carplay (ACP). Basically, your V30 display is shown on your car touch screen and you can control the apps from there. BUT... in the interests of safety, there are MANY restrictions placed on what is displayed and what you can do, as well as steps to limit what you can do with your device while it is connected.
A quick word on safety:
TL;DR - Don't be a jackass. Pay attention to the road while driving.
The restrictions placed on what is displayed and what you can do with those options appear to be there mainly in the interest of driving safety. Texting or other distracted driving contributes to motor vehicle collisions. The purpose of this thread is not to promote playing angry birds while driving.
With that said, IMHO some of - EG in AA, even a passenger is blocked from seeing the full list of music genres available in spotify. I would prefer you give me a warning which i acknowledge, and then let me proceed. IMHO, driving safety is the responsibility of the driver; if someone is going to be a jerk and text while driving, then restrictions on these interfaces are not going to stop that. Just as I would ask anyone behind the wheel of a car, be responsible.
Moving on:
I have used Android Auto for the last couple years, but continue to experience frustration with the limitations placed on the device while connected, and with software bugs that IMHO leave AA feeling like a Beta stage app.
Ideally, I would like to be able to simply mirror my device screen on the car head unit. I could then choose the apps that I want to use. For example, I would love to be able to open the Gasbuddy app and see a list of the surrounding gas prices and link to navigation for the one I choose. I would like to be able to play Ingress without disconnecting and reconnecting the device every time I stop at a portal. I would like to use Google Maps but have access to streetview so I can actually see what I'm looking for. When I pull up to the drive through, I would like to be able to see the list of coffee orders that I need to ask for without having to disconnect my phone from the car. How about when you arrive to pick up someone, being able to read email, news or watch a video clip on your car screen while you wait for your passenger to come to the car!
You get the point. AA and ACP are very restrictive and do not allow this. However, whether by design or error, Mirrorlink seems much more permissive. It even has a "home screen" button to show the home screen on your device. There are several Youtube videos showing Samsung Galaxy S8 users having full access to their phone. Unfortunately, it isn't working as hoped on the V30... yet!
UPDATE: I have a fairly stable setup working now with my V30 on my 2016 VW GTI. Note: I purchased a tool that allowed me to unlock a feature in my car that was blocking mirrorlink once the car was set in motion.
Index:
Links (Post #2)
Installation and setup (Post #3)
Links:
LG Mirrordrive App
Button Savior - Non Root
Full Mirror for Mirrorlink
Android Auto App
Screen Rotation Control
Nova Launcher
Screen Resizer
Drivemode
Requirements:
1. A car head unit that has Mirrorlink! Mine is a 16 VW GTI
2. US998, with Oreo 8.0.0
3. Install LG Mirrordrive App
4. Install a Home Screen Launcher that allows for landscape home screens. I am using Nova Launcher.
5. ** I needed to unlock "Mirrorlink in Motion" and "Video in Motion" on my car ECM **
Optional:
1. Install a driving interface app to make launching and controlling your options while on the move safe and convenient. I am usimg Drivemode right now. It is a little cartoonist for my taste but it works well and is easy to use.
2. Install Button Savior - Non Root (So far I haven't seen the need for the root version). This app creates an overlay with customizable buttons to control functions on the phone such as closing a window, or returning to the home screen as well as shortcuts such as opening the dialer app. My car head unit has it's own overlay buttons that are doing the job for now, so I don't need this app, although it might add some functionality. You can decide if you need it or not for your setup.
3. Install Screen Rotation Control - As long as your phone desktop is in landscape mode, you should not need this for typical operation. However, Apps that are portrait orientation only (Starbucks coffee for example) will cause an issue. If you use this utility, it will force even those apps to landscape.
4. Install Screen Resized (or similar tool). On the VW Gti screen, a slim part of the left edge of the image is off the display. This means you can't see a bit and can't touch icons on the left edge. Screen resizer allows you to padd the left edge so it fits properly on my head unit. YMMV
Setup:
1. OPTIONAL: Launch Screen Rotation Control and set it to landscape.
2. In your phone settings under Mirrorlink, tap for options, and select "Allow car to auto-connect." Strictly speaking, you don't have to do this, but if you don't, then you will have to go into the phone Mirrorlink settings each time you connect to turn it on.
3. OPTIONAL: Launch Button Savior - You will need to turn on an accessibility setting - It will tell you. I suggest setting the location of the side button (that you use to open the bar) to the bottom of the screen.
4. OPTIONAL: Launch Screen Resizer - For my VW GTI, I enter 150 (or so) in the top field to make the display fit properly. Then Resize, accept. You can now Close this app. To return to proper size when you disconnect, either reboot or launch resizer again, leave the fields as 0 and click resize and accept.
5. OPTIONAL: Launch Drivemode (or other driving interface)
6 (a). Set you car head unit to use Mirrorlink. Plug in your device to your car and make sure the car is detects it and initiates a Mirrorlink connection.
It might tell you there is no working app on the car, but show the Mirrorlink screen on the phone. In this case, go to the options menu in Mirrorlink on the car and launch the LG Mirrordrive App. Close the LG Mirrordrive app.
6(b) Now go into the options menu in Mirrorlink on the car, and select the option to close apps and close the Mirrordrive App. (Yes, I know you just opened it. We need to open it to get the service activated, but leaving it open may interfere with what we want to do. Hopefully down the road, someone smarter than me can find a way to bypass this.)
7. Select the home screen button in the car menu ( looks like a phone rotating from portrait to landscape on my car unit menu).
You should now be looking at a landscape view of your cell phone home screen!
Working:
I have tested Google Maps, Waze, Telegram messenger, Starbucks App, Gasbuddy and Spotify, to name a few and they are all working!
Of course, Google Assistant continues to be of great help in allowing voice commands while driving, such as, "Send Message to Dave on Telegram" or "Navigate to 123 Wentworth Street"
Problems:
As soon as I put the car in motion, my screen blacked out with a notice saying the app is not available while the vehicle is in motion. I was able to get past this by umlocking "Mirrorlink in Motion" and "Video in Motion" on my VW GTI's ECM. You will need to test and assess your own vehicle head unit. I used an OBDeleven to unlock mine.
I tested Full Mirror for Mirrorlink but had more problems than success. However, this was before finding a work-around for the rotation problems. This might be worth a second look, especially if you are having problems with the car head unit buttons to control your apps.
I tested Auto+ Show, but had no success; it never detected any connection. I think this app might be for a specific piece of video hardware or something.
I get an error on Spotify saying music cannot be played while using Mirrorlink. It pauses the music. I was able to work around this by launching the Rocksound app AFTER everything else is already working. Then I used the head unit on screen controls to get back to my own desktop and Spotify worked properly then.
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There are several Youtube videos showing Samsung Galaxy S8 users having full access to their phone.
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it is a bug, it is not feature of Samsung with LG MirrorDrive
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... yet!
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No bug = no full access
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Problems:
As soon as I put the car in motion, my screen blacked out with a notice saying the app is not available while the vehicle is in motion.
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you can unlock MirrorLink in motion in VAG vehicles
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it is a bug, it is not feature of Samsung with LG MirrorDrive
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Yes, correct.
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I'm not sure what you mean? There are some work around (bugs?) Discovered already and hopefully more to be found.
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you can unlock MirrorLink in motion in VAG vehicles
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Yes, but just saying that won't help anyone who doesn't already know about that. Please share links and/or your knowledge in that area so others can benefit!
A solution without changing the car's coding would be much better. Especially as this is often removed after servicing at VW/SEAT/SKODA dealership, and it is not possible to do on ANY mirrorlink car.
Currently the only working and consistent (100%) and easy-to-do "hack" consists of using any "drive-enabled" app, and render a floating window (can also be maximized) on top of it. For this Android 7.0 or higher. is MANDATORY. But then you will indeed get full mirroring quite easy.
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Currently the only working and consistent (100%) and easy-to-do "hack" consists of using any "drive-enabled" app, and render a floating window (can also be maximized) on top of it. For this Android 7.0 or higher. is MANDATORY. But then you will indeed get full mirroring quite easy.
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"using any drive enabled app"
I'm assuming we would all be starting with the LG MirrorDrive app. Does that count as a drive enabled app or do you mean something in addition to that? I recall having to install a mirrorlink enabled music app, open it then cancel it, before launching Spotify, or Spotify audio would be cut off.
"render a floating window"
I have previously enabled the force resizeable option to allow any app to split screen. That appears to be a step being able to launch a floating window according to this:
https://www.xda-developers.com/andr...what-it-is-and-how-developers-can-utilize-it/
Is that what you mean or do you have a different process?
The LG app is drive enabled yes, but you can also use some others, like Sygic or Rockscout. (if you look at the mirrorlink applauncher screen those apps will not have a crossed steering wheel, means they will not kick you out if you start moving the car)
Now with 7.0 as you said, you can make floating windows, as long as the floating window is rendered on top of a drive-enabled app it will work. However right now to do this it would require a bunch of different apps, so the process is very cumbersome. I'm trying to improve this with a single new apk install which brings all the needed features to do this. (e.g. a soft-button bar, a launcher for launching a floating app, maximized on top of it)
There could be several other theoretical options available. (Just theories, i'm still trying to understand how mirrorlink exactly works)
1.) somehow fake the certificate or modify a existing apk to show a different activity than the intended one
2.) somehow make mirrorlink think an app is drive enabled without faking the certificate, instead just add mirrorlink compatibility into the manifest to show up on the launcher
3.) intercept the mirrorlink VNC server / proxy it to a custom VNC server
4.) find a way to let the mirrorlink system think the car is not moving, while it is (without messing with car ECU obviously)
I'm pretty sure MirrorLink has some other weak points, and being a system which will no longer be developed or used (many abandoned it e.g. VW, SEAT is no longer providing mirrorlink app but the moved to AA). So once this weak spot is found, its kinda the holy grail, as this will probably never be changed again (whereas Android-Auto weak-spots might be patched ASAP).
Check out this security analysis too: http://damonmccoy.com/papers/ivi-woot.pdf
Ever since the most recent forced update on the 10th my LM-G710VM has had an issue with memory management.
It will literally kill ANY app, twitch, YouTube, maps, music etc. The moment it's in the background.
Here's an example, watching a YouTube video, click the home button to listen to it in the background while using maps, it will play for about 5 seconds then stop playing. If I pop out the screen for the little floaty picture in picture it won't kill the app. (usually)
This is the same with any of these apps.
Sometimes even just getting a text message and opening the pop-up response will kill all apps underneath it.
I've checked developer settings, adjusted the allowable background apps, Uninstalled a bunch of unused apps etc. I can't seem to find exactly what is causing this, it's really starting to make my phone hard to use.
Ideas?
Man, if anyone could tell me how to get rid of the Lock Screen media controls that would be great.
I have the widget turned off in Lock Screen, and in AOD. I have the media playback control feature turned on in the notifications drop down. Force closing Amazon music makes it go away for a few minutes, then sure enough its back. Anyone on the Beta figure out how to get rid of it?