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S20U have big software problem?

Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best

Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.

FinalBossJay said:
Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.
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Come on now. You know that's not exactly true. This phone has pretty serious camera issues, from poor optics to focus problems, etc. It's not a terrible camera, but it is not worth the price tag. Samsung has to do a lot more work on the software side to make it better. I've had the phone since launch and while updates did improve things, it still falls short compared to other flagships. Both iPhone 11 Pro and Pixel 4 take better photos (I have those phones too), as does Note 10+ in most cases (I have it too for comparison). With that said, it is possible to take good photos with the S20 Ultra, so it's not all bad.

If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.

I'm one of the few people who buys phone not for the camera but making receiving calls, YouTube media consumption social networking camera is bottom of the list.
I think the camera and video is brilliant and better then most flagship. Its good for an average consumer use for expert photographers not to sure as don't know enough. The good thing is most of us aren't experts.
I prefer the s20 plus as its slimmer and has less protruding camera. Its better buy then huawei as g services are missing and better software and screen. Better then oppo due to mainly software and less curved screen. Oppo could have been my choice were it not for the curved screen. I hate that, most overrated and wasted tech.
Thats my rant and impression of Samsung s20.

Paul_Deemer said:
If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville!
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That would make more sense than paying 17% more for a 6% larger screen. The battery is also 11% larger, but the plus is also lighter and thinner, especially at the camera bump. The cameras are the most significant difference between the two, it would only make sense for that to be the main motivating factor in paying the premium (especially considering the plus is tending to get marked down more).

Paul_Deemer said:
If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.
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The camera is literally the one reason to go for the Ultra vs. the Plus. Screen and battery size difference are insignificant in this decision, so no, Samsung does need to step up and make the Ultra worthy of its name. With that said, I am not expecting DSLR quality. I have a 5D Mark IV and some very high end lenses and know the difference. However, matching or beating the Pixel 4 series or the iPhone 11 Pro shouldn't be a problem for the camera setup on the Ultra, except Samsung botched the implementation badly.

isko01 said:
Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best
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Agree with you.
Pay 1400$ for S20U
- BATTERY not good than 11 pro max or oppo find x2 or p40 pro
- Exynos 990 so bad ( ex 990 < kirin 990 < sd 865)
- Camera can not take the moment well as iphone or other phone. Can't focus well, but photo and video day light is ok.
- screen ok but oppo find x2 pro's screen are better
Sorry for my bad english.
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About Camera:
Have S20 Ultra hardware that can improve with software? Or should I go for Mi 10?
Thank you

Question My initial review vs S21 Ultra

I have over the years owned a few OP devices including the 6, 7 pro and 8 and usually compared to say the current flagship Samsung I have preferred almost everything about the Oneplus but a few things like wireless charging, no always on display and a camera that just fell slightly short saw me ultimately go with a Samsung (or Pixel)
With the 9 pro I think this has flipped around and this a year I prefer almost everything about the S21 Ultra I have over the 9 pro. The Samsung IMO looks better, feels nicer in the hand, feels quicker in daily use (a big reversal this) has a quicker and better placed FPS and has better overall battery. The 9 pro though has a better main camera in the circumstances I care about (less blurry photos or my kids and pets) and has APTX-HD which is 2 areas about Samsung that frustrate me.
So I think I prefer the OP9 Pro (just) but I am kind of missing the S21 Ultra too.

Are you sure there are no aptx HD with S21U? You can check in developer options

Samsung have only had standard APTX for a while now which is frustrating as I am not convinced by LDAC and mostly only Sony cans have LDAC anyway.

Switched yesterday from s21 ultra to op9 pro, really enjoyed Sammy but definitely i prefer Oneplus way better user experience! Also even if with Hex manager i used to be able to mod software seem more "stock like" can't feel well with One Ui.. i agree about battery that is better on S21 but here you have shocking fast charge so not a big deal for me. About camera i can't talk I'm not a good photographer and also don't take photos often... One thing that i like about Oneplus comprared to s21 is that 30grams less means so much difference in daily usage!

I think that overall the camera is better on the S21 Ultra but as a point and shoot Samsung’s always struggle with anything that moves even a little bit and I see no signs of them resolving this. I find the 9 pro better in this regard.

Question Switching from s21 ultra

Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks

brockyneo said:
Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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hi, i have switched from s21u(exy) and battery on p6 pro is amazing comparing to samsung(9h+ p6 pro / 6h s21u - same usage)(p6pro 42h/one charge / s21u/28h) . not only battery, i like the mini rounded corners of p6 pro, software is good enough(its new), will be better after fex fixes.

Thanks so would you say it's a good choice over the s21 ultra

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Thanks so would you say it's a good choice over the s21 ultra
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yeah, right now best choice, i am selling my s21u

Thanks might get it ordered today and pass down the s21 ultra to the lad

After the Pixel 1 stopped getting updates two years ago, my wife and I finally upgraded to the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ 512 GB model, because for the first couple of years after the Pixel 1, I was waiting to buy another Pixel until they came out with a 256 GB model, and then by the time they did, I needed a 512 GB model so I still waited.
The Note 10+ hardware is great. I hate the software. I use my personal phone for my work too, my work uses Google for everything, and apparently, it's common with Samsung devices that they have sporadic syncing of GMail and Chat/Hangouts. When I told my brother about the problem I was having (and I did try deep-diving settings about not optimizing for battery usage, and not killing in the background, and even factory reset), my brother, who had only just bought his family their first smartphones maybe 4 years ago and go the Galaxy S9+, said that he assumed that's just the way Android is. It's not. I never encountered such bad GMail and chat syncing and notification behavior on any other phone.
For chat-type notifications, it was hit and miss whether I would receive timely ones. I could never narrow down what made the difference. For GMail, sometimes I wouldn't get a notification of an email until 45 minutes to even 2 hours later. Multi-tasking on the work computer, sometimes I wouldn't look at my GMail browser tab for long periods of time, and my boss likes to use chat quite often too. Half the time, I did happen to see the email in the browser tab, read it, and even deleted it (for non-critical things), and then later on my Samsung would let me know I have that "new" email. I already saw it and deleted it! Crazy.
There were other things Samsung gimped compared to other phones (Do Not Disturb...), and it also managed to duplicate all my contacts in a way that they're not recognized as duplicates so they can't be automatically de-duped.
Thankfully, back on the P6P 512 GB bandwagon, I no longer have those issues, and we quickly sold our Note 10+'s. So my answer is I'd trade any Samsung for a Pixel. Loved the Samsung hardware, but the software just doesn't cut it for me. The only thing I miss from the Note is the stylus from time to time, which would be handy for Pixel's magic eraser when you have to really fine-tune some erasing.
Oh yeah - I haven't had any issues with my battery life in the month I've had the phone. For the last five years, I never quick charge any phone, I only charge once the phone gets down to 25%, and I take the phone off the charger at 75%. I never charge overnight. The Pixel 6/Pro have Adaptive Charge to help battery life, but my 25-75% battery range lasts me 24 hours normally anyway. I don't own any quick chargers except my original Pixel 1 charger, and I don't use it.

brockyneo said:
Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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If multiple days of battery life is a bad thing, or the camera is too good for you.... you might want to stick with the samdung.

brockyneo said:
Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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I did the same thing, and battery is good after about a week or two. You have to give the adaptive battery time to learn your habits. Not sure where you heard the camera is bad. That's the best part of the phone.

roirraW edor ehT said:
The only thing I miss from the Note is the stylus from time to time, which would be handy for Pixel's magic eraser when you have to really fine-tune some erasing.
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There are 10 billion options for capacitive screen pokey things on Amazon. I can't tell you which ones I have, because I can't read the font they used to identify themselves, but works pretty good.

Owning currently both devices here I can maybe share a few thoughts, subjective of course as many of those base on what I like/dislike:
Pro S21 Ultra:
+ build quality
+ display quality
+ overall maturity of the software
+ better standby drain
Pro Pixel 6 Pro:
+ genuine, clean Android with less bloat
+ snappier UI
+ active battery life
+ Camera: much lower noise and much better dynamic range in low light
+ Camera: less heavy-handed noise-reduction/resharpening
+ (slightly) less weight
+ much more development friendly (no hassle bootloader unlock without lost warranty, no Knox.....)
All in all I like both phones, what makes me moving back to the S21 Ultra (or maybe again Mi 11U) is memory - sadly Google only sells the P6P with max 256GB in Germany which I find a bit too small for my purpose.....
And a few more words on the camera: Samsung has its own way in image processing and in many cases this leads to loss of details in grass/leaves/.... which I dislike. The Pixel 6 Pro gives much better results here, as with many indoor shots specifically of pets/kids.... So overall I much prefer the Pixel camera, this doesn't mean the Samsung camera is bad, though - it isn't !

The only thing I like about my s21 ultra is the display screen. Other than that, 6 pro tops it off. (The 6 pro is on par with the iPhone 13 max's camera btw) With the exception of the video quality of course. The iPhone is still the king for shooting high quality videos.

I have both. These are the most notable differences that I have noticed in using both extensively over a few weeks.
Everything else not-mentioned seems the same/equivalent between the two devices.
Battery; The Samsung has better battery life out of the box, hands down. I regularly saw 7hour screen time and easily made it 24 hours or more on a single charge. The P6P gets about 4-5hours screen time and only about 20-22hours on a charge.
Can only hope the P6P gets better with updates. I returned my first P6P because I thought something was wrong with it. Unfortunately, the second one is the same. It's bad (for some people, but apparently not everyone).
Temperature; You have to try really hard to make the Samsung work up a sweat. The P6P seems to get warm at random times without much going on (browsing forums, for example). Then other times when you would expect it to get warm (watching videos), it runs perfectly cool. Very strange.
Camera; There's nothing better or easier than the P6P when trying to produce consistent great quality pictures. Despite superior hardware in the Samsung S21 Ultra, overall picture results are handicapped due to inferior software/processing, especially in portrait mode. It has gotten better with updates, but still gets beat handily by P6P.
Size and Weight; The P6P is more hand/pocket friendly. It is noticeably thinner and lighter than the S21 Ultra, making it more comfortable in the pockets that I carry it in (back pocket or front shirt pocket). The S21 Ultra feels like a small cinder block in the pocket compare to the P6P.
Charging; Despite better technical sheet specs for the P6P, it charges inconsistently and slower than the S21 Ultra. It's not by a small margin either, P6P takes about 2x longer.
It also tends to get warm to the point of thorttling during charging. The S21 Ultra is consistent, and charges very fast and doesnt get very warm (certainly never throttles).
Software; I suppose this could be preference. If you like the Samsung software look and feel, then it's perfectly fine. It really runs almost flawlessly compared to older TouchWiz crap from Samsung. I prefer the look and feel of pure android from Google.

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I have both. These are the most notable differences that I have noticed in using both extensively over a few weeks.
Everything else not-mentioned seems the same/equivalent between the two devices.
Battery; The Samsung has better battery life out of the box, hands down. I regularly saw 7hour screen time and easily made it 24 hours or more on a single charge. The P6P gets about 4-5hours screen time and only about 20-22hours on a charge.
Can only hope the P6P gets better with updates. I returned my first P6P because I thought something was wrong with it. Unfortunately, the second one is the same. It's bad (for some people, but apparently not everyone).
Temperature; You have to try really hard to make the Samsung work up a sweat. The P6P seems to get warm at random times without much going on (browsing forums, for example). Then other times when you would expect it to get warm (watching videos), it runs perfectly cool. Very strange.
Camera; There's nothing better or easier than the P6P when trying to produce consistent great quality pictures. Despite superior hardware in the Samsung S21 Ultra, overall picture results are handicapped due to inferior software/processing, especially in portrait mode. It has gotten better with updates, but still gets beat handily by P6P.
Size and Weight; The P6P is more hand/pocket friendly. It is noticeably thinner and lighter than the S21 Ultra, making it more comfortable in the pockets that I carry it in (back pocket or front shirt pocket). The S21 Ultra feels like a small cinder block in the pocket compare to the P6P.
Charging; Despite better technical sheet specs for the P6P, it charges inconsistently and slower than the S21 Ultra. It's not by a small margin either, P6P takes about 2x longer.
It also tends to get warm to the point of thorttling during charging. The S21 Ultra is consistent, and charges very fast and doesnt get very warm (certainly never throttles).
Software; I suppose this could be preference. If you like the Samsung software look and feel, then it's perfectly fine. It really runs almost flawlessly compared to older TouchWiz crap from Samsung. I prefer the look and feel of pure android from Google.
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I think a lot of what you're putting down as negatives against P6P comes down to gservices and broken "pixel features". I'm running pure (google free) AOSP on mine. I pulled it off the charger this morning at 5:30 (7.5 hours ago). Currently have 1.5 hr screen on time and the battery is at 92%, and so far the battery gauge appears to be pretty linear. I've also NOT noticed ANY substantial heating up. It runs pretty cool consistently -- note that heat comes from the battery, so it makes sense.
Also, there is no magic battery BS in AOSP.

I upgraded from a Note 20 Ultra 512Gb and the battery on my P6P is phenomenal compared to the Note 20. There have been issues for some on the P6P but I've been using my 512Gb unlocked variant with no issue at all. Just make sure you set your P6P from scratch and don't transfer data from your S21 Ultra. Also the standby drain is the best I've ever had, took it off the charger at 9PM at 100% and at 8:30 the next morning was at 99%. Not everyone is having the same results that I have.

I had both for a while. S21 ultra for the last 9 months. Tested them side by side . I don't think the pixel is better than the s21 in any single way, they are actually so similar. I prefer the maturer Samsung email and calendar software but that's subjective. The biggest difference, which matters for me was that the pixel has more global 5g and LTE bands than the s21. I used Nova and mimicked the s21 completely. Really couldn't tell the difference except screen better on s21 IMHO.
if I didn't already own the s21 I would have bought the pixel but because they are so similar and it isn't an upgrade but more a move to the side, the change didn't make sense.

Display, build quality, signal quality and probably smoothness are all better on the s21U. However I prefer the camera on the P6P and also Pixel Android to OneUI. The S21U is a solid, well built device and I don't think the P6P is an upgrade, if anything it's a slight downgrade.

Thanks for all the replys I'm still on the fence at the minute lol,can I root the pixel 6 pro and have no problems like knox,drm keys etc like other devices have? And if ibdecude to want to unroot can it be returned back to totally factory as if it was never rooted? I haven't rooted for years and miss been able to uninstall apps etc and is viper4android still going strong or is there another app in its place thanks

Stick with the S21 Ultra. I went from a Note 20 Ultra to the Pixel 6 Pro. I love the camera, the better speakers, cleaner software experience, but overall it doesn't feel like an upgrade. The 5G reception is slightly worse, Android 12 has lots of quirks, charging speeds are much slower, and customization is currently very limited. It's possible that it will improve with updates and custom ROMs but its current state is underwhelming. To be honest, I'm already looking forward to the S22 Ultra.

brockyneo said:
Thanks for all the replys I'm still on the fence at the minute lol,can I root the pixel 6 pro and have no problems like knox,drm keys etc like other devices have? And if ibdecude to want to unroot can it be returned back to totally factory as if it was never rooted? I haven't rooted for years and miss been able to uninstall apps etc and is viper4android still going strong or is there another app in its place thanks
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Yep, no bad sides to rooting or later unrooting at all, just jump through some well established hoops as far as banking apps are concerned. It didn't bother me and it was the first time I ever did what I needed for safety net and banking apps to not know I'm rooted. No one can tell you ever had it rooted if you re-lock the bootloader after restoring to 100% stock and then factory reset, which will re-disable the OEM unlock option on Developer Options.
You just never can automatically update to each months OTA, have to follow the proper manual procedure to update and stay rooted. I did it every month for over three years that I had the Pixel 1.

If you value the camera, root and stock Android then get the Pixel. If you don't value those then stick with the S21U. I came from the S21U so I can honestly tell you that the S21U is definitely a better all around device but the fact that I can root really made my decision easier to go with the Pixel. No, the Pixel isn't any smoother than the S21U as I've had both; they are pretty much the same in the smoothness department. Anyone who disagrees is lying to themselves.

Question Currently own a Pixel 4a I'm leaning towards an S21 Fe over a Pixel 6 but concerned about smoothness.

Hi all,
Both the Pixel 6 and the S21 FE seem like great devices with pros and cons. I can get both for about the same price.
I'm leaning towards the S21 FE mostly because the Pixel has many bugs, and Android 13 seems to have made things worse. People are complaining of battery drain and the fingerprint reader not working. The S21 has a better screen and less bugs.
Having said that, a couple people have told me that the S21 FE UI can lag a bit sometimes and the camera is slow. Can anyone support these claims? I've seen some people say that the Exynos version is worse than the Snapdragon version. I can get the snapdragon version in Europe apparently.
In summary, I'm reluctant to go from Pixel to Samsung if the UI experience is choppy or it randomly drops frames. I'd like to get more advice.
Thanks all!

Consider the Note 10+ Snapdragon.
Can be had at a good price, run well, looks great, supports up to 1tb of expandable storage.
No variable refresh rate display or 5G but better SOT. Runs cool and fast; a good balance missing on the newer Sammy's.
Cams not as good but more than adequate.
A solid, reliable beast of a phone.

blackhawk said:
Consider the Note 10+ Snapdragon.
Can be had at a good price, run well, looks great, supports up to 1tb of expandable storage.
No variable refresh rate display or 5G but better SOT. Runs cool and fast; a good balance missing on the newer Sammy's.
Cams not as good but more than adequate.
A solid, reliable beast of a phone.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, the Note 10+ is about 140 euro more expensive than the two phones I'm looking at which is out of my price range!

MrBled said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, the Note 10+ is about 140 euro more expensive than the two phones I'm looking at which is out of my price range!
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Used ones are getting quit low now. A lot more bang for the buck. It's a pain... I don't envy you.

Get the Pixel

Had a Pixel 6 and i would totally say it's much better than S21 FE (if you don't have connection issues although i didn't experience them). Android 13 made the phone much better. S21 FE is just a no go tbh compared to Pixel 6; battery life is worse, cameras are worse, performance is similar, Pixel 6 community is more active, and Google software support is better (imo).

I was worried a bit as well but my S21fe Snapdragon is super fast and the camera opens and takes pictures consistently quickly. The side key is set to open the camera when holding down using a 3rd party app. There were a few minor lags on the very first boot right after restoring a large backup over Smart Switch but that went away. I did do a basic debloat as well. I get ~6hrs sot with 120hz and adaptive brightness on.

I always loved the Pixel Series. So when I got the chance, I returned back my S21 FE to get a Pixel 6. Big mistake
Let me explain my experience
1-I tried several screen protectors. It's true that some work better than others. But definitely the fingerprint scanner on the Pixel 6 is under the rest of the competitors, by far
2-The biggest problem for me, the touch delay and buffering. I play a lot of rhythm games and this problem was killing me. I'm ended selling it to get again the S21 FE
Don't know if this problem is solved today (this happened to me on May)
more info:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/qz22lm
Since I returned to the S21, I'm extremely happy
Hope this helps

Question S21FE (exynos) vs Pixel 6a

Which of these two is better if my main concerns are camera, battery and display?

Phonescoop Comparison
Rear cameras look the same while Samsung has a much better front camera, though Pixels have a reputation for producing better images with similar or fewer megapixels. The Samsung has a slightly larger display that should scroll smoother, both of which should draw more from the similar size batteries, but that is probably offset by the more efficient CPU in the Samsung. So IMO the Pixel has a better rear camera but Samsung has the better front (aka selfie) cam, battery life should be close, and the Samsung has a smoother scrolling quarter inch larger display.

I recently watched reviews that battery of pixel 6a is better than S21 FE. Is the difference too much?

quoting u/TheDogstarLP from reddit, a redditor which used the Pixel 6a more than two weeks
So long as it's the Snapdragon version (which it probably is, because I know both US and EU S21 FE use Snapdragon... or at least, my local store has it), the 888 > Tensor any day of the week. Exynos 2100 isn't great though, and is probably on par/only a little bit better. As for the rest...
Cameras will be close enough (Pixel 6a probably a bit better in some ways), screen is better, build is better (S21 FE has Victus, for example), faster charging, wireless charging, same software support, more RAM and storage options, better fingerprint sensor.

I made the switch from the S21 FE to the Pixel 6a and prefer the Pixel.
The cam of the P6a is so much better and especially in good lightning condition I produce way better pictures. But also in low light or with moving objects the Pixel is superior. You really can feel/see the life in the images. The S21 FE (SD888 version) somehow got an extreme shutter lag and you have to stand still another 1-2 seconds after taking a picture - pretty annoys me and was the reason for the switch! Any tipps on this are welcome, I still have the phone.
For videos I would say both are equal. Samsung got more settings options, but with the right lightning and white balance settings the Pixels videos do look somehow more realistic - but unfortunately they seem to lag a little more...like frame drops or so!
Battery of the Pixel 6a -> standby forever (iPad style). SOT 6-8h - without any battery saving options. With the S21 FE I was always getting around 4-4,5 hours and not even managed to get 16-18h overall mixed usage - with Bixby routines changig to 60Hz on every app where I don't scroll btw.!
The only thing I miss from the S21 FE is the display, but not because of the 120Hz vs 60Hz...it's just a way better screen. Regarding the often discussed frame rates topic: After a day I haven't realized that I'm back to 60Hz, but if you put them side by side the Samsung display is sooooo much better! But how often you compare phones side by side a day?
So if you love taking pictures and like to have a 'smaller' phone with great battery, I'd go with the Pixel. If you like gimmicks or if you use DEX, go with the Samsung! The Dex Stand works with the P6a btw. - keyboard and mouse will be recognized after a sec. But screen mirroring doesn't work - so you have to use a chromecast or something if you want to use this function. Pretty sad that Google still deactivated screen mirroring. My Essential Phone Ph1 had this in 2017 already, not to speak of my Atrix 4g or Moto Razr and Razr HD.
Thanks for the read!

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Which of these two is better if my main concerns are camera, battery and display?
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I have both now. My experience
1. Camera: Pixel 6A is much better in terms of taking photos which look similar to what you see (people, scenery etc.)
2. Display: S21 FE looks much better but has a wider display making one-handed typing tougher compared to 6A but videos and apps look much better on S21 FE
3. Battery life: Interestingly similar but S21FE lasts longer, a couple of hours overall use. I have set Battery Saver at 40% for pixel 6A and Power Saving through Routine on S21 FE at the same percentage
Overall I would recommend 6A though because of the camera output.

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I have both now. My experience
1. Camera: Pixel 6A is much better in terms of taking photos which look similar to what you see (people, scenery etc.)
2. Display: S21 FE looks much better but has a wider display making one-handed typing tougher compared to 6A but videos and apps look much better on S21 FE
3. Battery life: Interestingly similar but S21FE lasts longer, a couple of hours overall use. I have set Battery Saver at 40% for pixel 6A and Power Saving through Routine on S21 FE at the same percentage
Overall I would recommend 6A though because of the camera output.
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Forgot to add that I use my phone at 60Hz for S21 FE

Be careful of the Samsung shutter lag especially on moving subjects. It is by far the most annoying thing of the phone's camera.
You take the photo, when you click on the image to see it for a brief second you actually see the photo and then it switches to a later frame that the camera captured. Here's an example I made this weekend.
Look closely when I took the photo and then look at the result.

capedukewuhaha said:
I made the switch from the S21 FE to the Pixel 6a and prefer the Pixel.
The cam of the P6a is so much better and especially in good lightning condition I produce way better pictures. But also in low light or with moving objects the Pixel is superior. You really can feel/see the life in the images. The S21 FE (SD888 version) somehow got an extreme shutter lag and you have to stand still another 1-2 seconds after taking a picture - pretty annoys me and was the reason for the switch! Any tipps on this are welcome, I still have the phone.
For videos I would say both are equal. Samsung got more settings options, but with the right lightning and white balance settings the Pixels videos do look somehow more realistic - but unfortunately they seem to lag a little more...like frame drops or so!
Battery of the Pixel 6a -> standby forever (iPad style). SOT 6-8h - without any battery saving options. With the S21 FE I was always getting around 4-4,5 hours and not even managed to get 16-18h overall mixed usage - with Bixby routines changig to 60Hz on every app where I don't scroll btw.!
The only thing I miss from the S21 FE is the display, but not because of the 120Hz vs 60Hz...it's just a way better screen. Regarding the often discussed frame rates topic: After a day I haven't realized that I'm back to 60Hz, but if you put them side by side the Samsung display is sooooo much better! But how often you compare phones side by side a day?
So if you love taking pictures and like to have a 'smaller' phone with great battery, I'd go with the Pixel. If you like gimmicks or if you use DEX, go with the Samsung! The Dex Stand works with the P6a btw. - keyboard and mouse will be recognized after a sec. But screen mirroring doesn't work - so you have to use a chromecast or something if you want to use this function. Pretty sad that Google still deactivated screen mirroring. My Essential Phone Ph1 had this in 2017 already, not to speak of my Atrix 4g or Moto Razr and Razr HD.
Thanks for the read!
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For shutter lag, my only solution was to click and drag on the shutter to shoot in burst mode. It is somewhat inefficient because you end up with 20 photos but gets the job done if you really need to capture anything good.

Booty_Hunterrr said:
Which of these two is better if my main concerns are camera, battery and display?
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I don’t know what other people are talking about re: Pixel battery being better but that is not the case. I have both phones and I charged them to 100% and left them alone. They had the same apps running and were only on wifi. I only checked in on them once a day. The Pixel 6a lasted 9 days on standby, the Galaxy S21FE was still at 9% when the Pixel died.
The battery is better and I like the size & screen better on the Samsung. I think the camera is better on the Pixel and you’ll get more software updates.
Also, for me, the Pixel fingerprint reader was completely broken when I first got it. They released an update mid-September which fixed it and it’s perfect now. The F21FE reader has been good the whole time.
They’re both good phones. They are not my primary phone so actual “phone” features aren’t a primary concern. I *really* like the size and feel of the FE with the Samsung silicone case. I like the Pixel because of the Googleness of it. As a backup, I’d go with the FE because I like the Samsung Secure Folder feature and the size. If I had to use one as my daily driver, I’d go with the Pixel for the better camera, longer shelf life (longer OS support) and because it supports eSIM with the FE does not.