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My car is a BMW that has bluetooth phone integration. This basically lets the car's built in speakers and mic act as a super expensive BT headset for your phone. I like this feature.
However, the phone also downloads the phones contact list over BT as well, so it can display it on the navigation screen in a scrolling list. While this feature is well-intentioned, and sounds like a good idea at first, it is problematic for two reasons:
1) it downloads the entire contact list and there is no settings on the car side to make it download a subset or not to download at all.
The problem with this is that the list of contacts becomes so long that it's useless to use because to get to a name at the end of the list, you would be scrolling for 5 minutes. For this reason, I've given up on dialing through the nav screen interface and just dial the call on the phone and use the car as a dumb BT headset.
2) while downloading the contact list, my TP2 gets so busy that it barely responds to any screen or button presses.
since the download takes about 5 minutes and takes place automatically when you start the car and have BT turned-on on the phone, this means that if a call comes in within the first 5 minutes of starting your car, you can't answer it because the answer slider won't respond and neither will the answer button. using the car's onscreen "answer call" control doesn't work either.
in one particularly infuriating scenario, i left a restaurant after having dinner with some out of town relatives and my mom. they were going to go home and i was going to run an errand in the opposite direction but, being unfamiliar with the area, they followed me out of the parking lot. i immediately started trying to call my mom to tell them to turn around but since the phone was locked up doing the download, they ended up following me basically to the next freeway exit 5 miles away while i was furiously pushing buttons and tapping all over the screen trying to make a call. I was already at my destination before the phone get decongested and I got through to them.
anyhow, i had problem #1 with my HTC XV6800 mogul and worked around it by just ignoring the car's screen dialing interface. the contact download never locked up the phone. however, with my new TP2, I have to deal with the phone being unavailable for 5 minutes every time I start the car, which is more of a problem. i don't know why the TP2 gets locked up this way when the mogul didn't. It's even more frustrating because it is doing this for a feature I don't even use. (actually, i should say that I am not sure that it is the contacts transfer that causes the lock-up, but that’s the best explanation I can think of for now)
So my question is: is there any way or setting to turn off transfer of contacts to a BT device? or even better would be a way to limit the contacts transferred to a group or category that I could define for frequently used contacts?
any ideas? maybe a registry setting?
It sounds more like a problem with the BMW. AFAIK the phonebook transfer is requested by the head unit, so maybe the BMW is asking every time you turn it on
I have a Blaupunkt head unit that also downloads the phonebook but it only asks for it once when the phone is first paired with it. I have heard of people having some problems if they pair the HU with the phone rather than the other way round.
re the contacts list, do you have some kind of keypad on the HU? If so try typing the first few characters of the cantact name
stunno said:
It sounds more like a problem with the BMW. AFAIK the phonebook transfer is requested by the head unit, so maybe the BMW is asking every time you turn it on
re the contacts list, do you have some kind of keypad on the HU? If so try typing the first few characters of the cantact name
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I know the problem is with the BMW, but it's less likely that i can change that side of the problem than the phone side. The BMW definitely does not store the phonebook. i think there is very limited local storage on board, or they don't want to deal with synchronization issues.
There is a letter jump function, but since it also breaks out every phone number for a person into multiple lines. eg:
john smith (H)
john smith (C)
john smith (W)
then there is still a lot of scrolling.
anyhow, does anybody know of any such thing as a registry setting like (made up example) "HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\BT\AllowPhonebookTransfer: Yes"
Hi,
I have a bluetooth phone in my car, when I first connected the HTC Desire HD up, it had no problems, it paired and everything looked fine... around 10 minutes later, I noticed the bluetooth had simply disconnected from the car but was still running on the phone. I tried to reconnect it up to the car but it wouldn't, I then turned it off, and turned it back on.. it struggled to come back on, but after a few attempts it did come on and the car connected again...
About 5 minutes later the same thing happened again. At this point my phone started to really slow down, I looked in watchtower and the bluetooth was at the top of the list, soon as I turned off bluetooth the phone was responding fine again.
I have since tried connecting to the car multiple more times and have contacted HTC about it, but it seems to disconnect at random times.
Has anyone else experienced similar problems? I heard of similar problems with the original desire so wondering whether it could be something similar.
Kev
Hi Kev,
I am having similar problems with my Desire HD and Audi in car bluetooth system. I posted on another forum and found others were finding the same...
I pair my phone and within couple of minutes the phone has disconnected and won't re-connect.
Not found any definitive answer as yet, but seems BT in this phone isn't so good. Also read a post saying HTC were aware of this but an update wouldn't be available for sometime.
Hopefully someone else can shed some light!
Ben
I also noticed this the last few days with my Bury CC9056 carkit. I have my DHD since October 18th, and up till last friday it connected fine. Since then it connects to the carkit, but within a few seconds the connection is lost...
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Me too. My connection to my Jabra car kit is stable once connected... but trying to get it connected in the first place is a total headache.
Never had this problem with my Desire, so why HTC should change the Bluetooth function in the HD is a mystery.
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tbh i'm glad its not just me thats experiencing problems meaning it could be a software problem rather than something with my handset in particular.
I have been in touch with HTC about this, and I have just sent them the link to this thread so they can see i'm not the only one with this issue, so if anyone else has this issue it may be good to try and keep it all in here.
quentin_rayner said:
Hi Kev,
I am having similar problems with my Desire HD and Audi in car bluetooth system. I posted on another forum and found others were finding the same...
I pair my phone and within couple of minutes the phone has disconnected and won't re-connect.
Not found any definitive answer as yet, but seems BT in this phone isn't so good. Also read a post saying HTC were aware of this but an update wouldn't be available for sometime.
Hopefully someone else can shed some light!
Ben
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Mines also the audi in car system - do you find that you struggle to turn the bluetooth off and on again once it disconnects or that your phone becomes a little laggy until you turn the bluetooth off?
Yeah - I use the bluetooth widget on the home screen and once it disconnects, it will either take ages to turn off and on again, or it takes 2 presses to turn off.
I have just purchased a Plantronics 230 headset as need bluetooth for my job and it works perfectly - it's no where near the quality of the in car one though.
Also booked in my Audi as it's still under warranty - spoke to them on the phone and they said they will try and update the firmware but the Desire HD isn't on their supported phone list. Have seen a copy of this and not many phones are!!
I would of thought though, that as long as the phone does connect to the phone system in the car that it is compatible.
I have had 30mins once out of it before it disconnected and it was absolutely perfect in that time, including the phone book etc.
I do believe its something to do with the bluetooth on the phone as its a bit strange the way it struggles to turn on again once it fails.
quentin_rayner said:
.. Also booked in my Audi as it's still under warranty - spoke to them on the phone and they said they will try and update the firmware but the Desire HD isn't on their supported phone list. Have seen a copy of this and not many phones are!!
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That really hacks me off. I mean, BT is a standard. The only reason Audi can give for not supporting a phone that supports at least the same level of BT as them is that they (Audi) do not adhere to the BT standard.
Now, we all know in real life that cars and phones have problems/bugs/whatever BUT unless they can show that there is indeed a *bug* with the phone then the onus should be on Audi to support it.
Dave
Just for the record, it is not just Audi. With me it is together with the Bury carkit, where it first worked fine. (and also works with all other phones...)
Leon
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I can confirm the issues with the BT. I have a parrot Mki9000 in my car and the first time when i tried to connect the DHD , the phone stopped to respond and I was forced to restart it. Since then the phone is paired with the car kit and works fine in a2dp mode for playing music, but when i try to make a call it simply not work. Yo better discribe the problem I will give an example:
The phone i properly connected and playing music, then it's ringing, but the ring sound is coming from the phone speaker not from the car. Then If i answer the call the sound comes from the phone (it shows that there is connection to the car kit). I've tried to press the speaker icon and there is a list with output devices (the phone, loudspeaker, and my car kit) I've tried to select the car kit several times , but there was no success. When I close the phone the music start to play from my car's BT system , so I think there is a problem with the handsfree function/protocol only a2dp works great , and I didn't have any issues with it. Also I've tried file transfer via BT, it works fine two.
Mitsubish Outlander carkit
I can confirm the same issue with the Mitsubish outlander carkit. It even happens that it drops the conversation. sometimes it's ok for half an hour, sometimes it disconnects after 1-2 minutes.
I also have a Jabra (bluetooth) headphone and noticed that if you pick up a call on the phone the sounds doesn't route to the headphone. If I pickup on the headphone it works fine.
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I can confirm the same issue with the Mitsubish outlander carkit. It even happens that it drops the conversation. sometimes it's ok for half an hour, sometimes it disconnects after 1-2 minutes.
I also have a Jabra (bluetooth) headphone and noticed that if you pick up a call on the phone the sounds doesn't route to the headphone. If I pickup on the headphone it works fine.
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I have a Pioneer head unit with BT in the car and that seems to work OK, not withstanding the fact that the HU has BT issues of its own (hardware fix needed - I'll get a new unit rather than fix it as I want one with A2DP) but once connected it works fine.
I have a Plantronics headset that seems to exhibit the same problems as your Jabra. At least if I use the phone to answer the call the sound comes through the phone. Also, if I have been using the headset the next call I make goes through the phone speaker which is a pain.
I'm wondering if HTC are routing the sound through the device that's actually *controlling* the call? So even if a headset is paired and connected to the phone, if you use the phone to make the call, as most people would, then it assumes that that's where the sound should get routed. If so, doh .....!!!!!
Just to add, if the sound does get routed to the phone you can use the 'choose speaker' option on the screen to route it to the headset but you shouldn't have to do this.
Anyone reported these issues to HTC and got a meaningful response?
Dave
I did send an email to HTC. Their wonderfull answer was about: "is your phone mentionned in the compatabilylist of the carkit, if not drop the problem there"...
I am still waiting for a response from HTC.
Mines got to a point now where I cant even make a call, it connects to the car, I go through phone book (on car) choose person to call, press call.. it tries for a couple of seconds then comes up disconnected, about 10 seconds later the phone disconnects from the car and will nto reconnect.
My phone then lags like mad until I turn bluetooth off which according to watch tower is taking up about 80% of the CPU.
any updates/solution to all these problems ?
I need it to work with MW600 before buying Desire HD
Last contact I had with HTC is they told me it had been escalted to the software team, so i'm guessing next time a software update comes out it could come about in that, but at the minute no still not fixed.
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I also have a Jabra (bluetooth) headphone and noticed that if you pick up a call on the phone the sounds doesn't route to the headphone. If I pickup on the headphone it works fine.
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I've always thought that that's the way it is on all BT headset phones, it makes sense, if the incoming call was for my girlfriend, she can answer from the phone itself, and it automatically routes this through the phones speaker, and if it was answered from the headset, then it routes to the headset.. makes sense to me, I think it's quite good that it does that!
Do any of you have the process com.android.phone crashing when making a phone call through BT?
Ditto my mitsubishi outlander factory bt system. Seemed to work fine first time but then disconnected during first call and would not reconnect for days. Then after connecting not all functions would work ...no incoming call alert on car system, no dialling from car etc. I know the car system is fine as all functions work perfectly with my old nokia xpress music.
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I trust that all of you bother to report this to HTC, at least once per instance ?
- otherwise I don't know when they'll fix this..
I'm looking for a good quality multipoint Bluetooth headset, I've tried two different ones so far and have not been pleased with the results, A Blueant Q2 and a SoundID 510.
The Blueant would only let you use voice commands on the 1st phone that it connects to at that session, sometimes it was one phone, sometimes another, highly annoying. Even when it was connecting to the right phone the only way I could use the phones built in voice dialer was by pressing the side button, waiting for the prompt then having to speak "Phone Command", then I was taken to the phone's own voice control, and I would have to do this every single time. and if that was not bad enough, the headset would always take over the phone's audio, I connect to my car stereo via a line connected to the headphone jack, but when I connected with the headset it would disable the headphones and output to the headset even after I disabled it in the phone settings. Returned.
The SoundID was even worse, most of the time it would not even let me get to any phone's voice commands after having paired a second phone. When it does go to voice commands it says "Siri" every time , I hate Crapple, deal breaker. I didn't use it enough to check out the rest. Returned.
I just want a headset that can do the following:
Connect to 2 devices, one of which will be answer only.
Have one button access to voice commands and always have it go to the same phone, regardless of which one connects first.
No ADP audio, or have it easily disabled in the hardware.
Hard Switch (No hold down talk button for X amount of seconds to turn on/off)
Comfortable and easy to put on (no over the ear) would also be nice.
Under $100
Does anything like this exist? I do not want to have to navigate a menu to get my phone to call someone, I just want to push a button once and know its always going to the right phone.
Gracias
I Love Carmen De Mairena
I have a Sony bluetooth capable receiver in my car. When linked by bluetooth, I can receive calls through the receiver controls, but I cannot place them. When I press the main button, the display shows "voice dial" but when I speak nothing happens. My old streak would say "speak now" through the speakers then dial whomever I told it to. I don't understand why a newer phone would not communicate properly. Once in call I have no problem, it is just placing them. Is there a setting I'm missing?
It is definitely the phone. I just test drove an Audi A4 and the phone linked up flawlessly except that the car can't read the phonebook. The salesman told me there is a known problem with Samsung phones. So that's a new car and an aftermarket deck that both can't read the phonebook even though they asked for and were given permission.
Anybody have any idea how to fix this?
Is anyone else having issues with their 5x connecting to their car's bluetooth automatically (I drive a 2015 Subaru Forester)?
My Nexus 5 would always just automatically connect, but since I switched to the 5x I have to either connect to the car from the phone or vice versa.
I'm sure I could work something out with tasker or whatnot, but that feels to me as though it should not be necessary?
I have yet to get back in my car after pairing to my bluetooth adapter (I just paired this morning) but I will check later.
Do you have a list of saved or prioritized devices in the car? I wonder if the Forester bluetooth is trying to connect to your first device (Nexus 5) unsuccessfully.
I have a 2014 Ford Focus. The bluetooth will connect automatically, but I have noticed weirdness when placing calls. The car will take a while to initiate the call and then display an error saying "call cannot be completed". Then, 2 seconds later the call audio (ringing) will occur.
I am hoping that these are just some initial bluetooth issues that will be ironed out.
I had deleted my old device from the car's memory.
Another thing I am experiencing is that even if my phone IS connected, the calls are going through the device, and not my speakers.
It still pauses the music...
It could be either my car or the device. I've heard of other Subaru owners having issues with multiple devices in their car, just wasn't sure if it was a little of Column A and B. It seems likely enough it's a little bit of both.
No issues at all. I have a 2012 Dodge charger with the 8.4 Uconnect. This phone actually connects quicker than my S6 edge did and the sound is louder at max volume (on the phone) than the S6E. The only thing that doesn't work is the text messaging from the Uconnect, but overall I am very pleased.
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I had deleted my old device from the car's memory.
Another thing I am experiencing is that even if my phone IS connected, the calls are going through the device, and not my speakers.
It still pauses the music...
It could be either my car or the device. I've heard of other Subaru owners having issues with multiple devices in their car, just wasn't sure if it was a little of Column A and B. It seems likely enough it's a little bit of both.
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My in-laws own a 2015 Forester so perhaps next time I see them I'll try to pair my 5X. May be a while before that happens though so don't hold your breath
2013 Honda Civic here (so cool, I know). I'm getting mixed results on it automatically connecting. Sometimes yes, but other times I need to connect manually. Yesterday, Bluetooth audio got really choppy in the car, and I had to restart in order to stabilize that again. Have not seen the choppiness issue with my other Bluetooth devices.
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I had no problem with my Mazda 5 connecting to my Moto E on 4.4.4, but since the upgrade to 5.1 I now have to turn bluetooth off then back on every time I get in the car for it to connect. Also, the connection can drop. I tried deleting existing connection data from both car and phone, setting up from scratch, but it hasn't made any difference. Wish I could downgrade by phone's OS back to 4.4.4.
Might depend on the sound system. Reconnects to my 2013 VW Passat every time.
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No issues in my Audi or aftermarket radio in the Subie... It sounds like you may not have calls being routed through the phone (based on your comment), maybe that is causing the connection issue? Something like only a phone connection is automatically connected (and the audio comes with it), but an audio connection is not?
I have a 2011 Mitsubishi Ralliart and i don't have any issues with my 5X auto connecting to the factory bluetooth system, my problem is the factory bluetooth is garbage since any time someone calls there is too much interference i can't hear what the other person is saying.
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I have a 2014 Ford Focus. The bluetooth will connect automatically, but I have noticed weirdness when placing calls. The car will take a while to initiate the call and then display an error saying "call cannot be completed". Then, 2 seconds later the call audio (ringing) will occur.
I am hoping that these are just some initial bluetooth issues that will be ironed out.
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Exact same issue here but with a Kia. As soon as the phone "reacts" to a call being started on the headunit, the headunit says "call was hung up". As soon as the call is answered, it offers to be used for handsfree. It's as if the phone's "CallStatus" messages over bluetooth aren't correct
Subject crosstrek 2014, BlackBerry z10 never had an issue whatsoever, but since I got my 5x, I get half a connection (Bluetooth connects with no audio), with 6.0.1, no automatic connect... Blackberry's reputation may be downhill, but I sincerely miss its reliability and the hub...
Nexus 5X and 6P Uconnect 8.4 Grand Cherokee 2014
I recently started experiencing a similar issue.
I use my 6p for music and audio only, and my 5x for phone calls and sms.
About a week ago, they would stay connected as long as nothing was being streamed. However, as soon as I received a call on the 5X, the phone would lose BT connection to the system, and then connect back after about 30 seconds. It would do that throughout all of the calls, regardless of the length of each call. After the first 2 calls, I started streaming music from Google Play Music on my 6p, and the same thing would happen.
I removed Uconnect from both phones, and both phones from Uconnect. Paired them back again, and it is still doing the same thing.
I will try resetting the Uconnect to factory default later today and see if it has any positive effect, and will post my findings here.
If anyone else has a uconnect system with the same issue, please post it here, and we can try looking for a solution together.
Thank you,