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I have searched this forum a few times but I can't find anything on the best DSP manager settings. When I plug my phone into my car, the audio works fine, but I'd like more output to my car speakers (to make it louder without having to crank my stereo) and I'd like to tweak the equalizer for more bass/drum output (think the "Rock" setting on an iPod). However, my knowledge of equalizers is basically non-existent so any help would be wildly appreciated.
Thank you!
that's all going to depend on your car setup, speakers, in-car EQ, etc. I'll assume you've got the sound in your car how you like it, you just want to tweak the Evo EQ a bit. (what I mean is, the sound in your car from a CD or even radio already sounds good. You just want to make the Evo sound better.)
To get more Bass/Kick drum sound, you'll want to boost the lowest two bands on DSPManager. The lowest (leftmost) band looks like about 60Hz, the next one is around 200Hz. Bring them up to around +3dB for the first and +2dB for the second. At this point, your mix will sound kinda boomy and muddy, so bring the highs up. a little less intense, though, so maybe the highest band at +1.5dB and the next-highest at +0.5 or +1.
Adjust the middle band to taste.
Compressing the sound will also help even out your volume (ie if you're listening to rap/hip-hop, you probably want the kick louder than the vocals, but not so much to where the kick will explode your speakers just by turning up the volume to a reasonable level).
a few tips when changing EQ:
1. Usually, I say cut when you can, boost when you have to. In the Evo case, though, cutting isn't going to help a whole lot. Unless your speakers have a skewed response curve. Try and boost as little as possible, one band at a time, to get the sound you want.
2. Get a CD (retail CD) and put it in the car, reset your EQ, and turn the volume up as loud as you, your speakers, and your neighbors can stand it. Adjust the bass (lowest band) on your car's stereo until you get a nice, rich bassy sound. Same thing with the Treble and Mid settings. You may want to set each one independently, ie. set bass, write it down, and then put everything back to 0; set treble, etc. Once your car's at it's best, set your phone to match. Plug your Evo in and tweak the EQ on it to get a good sound out of your car.
3. Bass is nice, but don't overdo it. A lot of people crank the bass up to +6db or higher and then complain that it doesn't sound good. Even at a low volume, an overpowered EQ band will sound terrible. Try to set everything at no higher than +/- 3dB, then adjust up or down if you have to.
heyitstval said:
that's all going to depend on your car setup, speakers, in-car EQ, etc. I'll assume you've got the sound in your car how you like it, you just want to tweak the Evo EQ a bit. (what I mean is, the sound in your car from a CD or even radio already sounds good. You just want to make the Evo sound better.)
To get more Bass/Kick drum sound, you'll want to boost the lowest two bands on DSPManager. The lowest (leftmost) band looks like about 60Hz, the next one is around 200Hz. Bring them up to around +3dB for the first and +2dB for the second. At this point, your mix will sound kinda boomy and muddy, so bring the highs up. a little less intense, though, so maybe the highest band at +1.5dB and the next-highest at +0.5 or +1.
Adjust the middle band to taste.
Compressing the sound will also help even out your volume (ie if you're listening to rap/hip-hop, you probably want the kick louder than the vocals, but not so much to where the kick will explode your speakers just by turning up the volume to a reasonable level).
a few tips when changing EQ:
1. Usually, I say cut when you can, boost when you have to. In the Evo case, though, cutting isn't going to help a whole lot. Unless your speakers have a skewed response curve. Try and boost as little as possible, one band at a time, to get the sound you want.
2. Get a CD (retail CD) and put it in the car, reset your EQ, and turn the volume up as loud as you, your speakers, and your neighbors can stand it. Adjust the bass (lowest band) on your car's stereo until you get a nice, rich bassy sound. Same thing with the Treble and Mid settings. You may want to set each one independently, ie. set bass, write it down, and then put everything back to 0; set treble, etc. Once your car's at it's best, set your phone to match. Plug your Evo in and tweak the EQ on it to get a good sound out of your car.
3. Bass is nice, but don't overdo it. A lot of people crank the bass up to +6db or higher and then complain that it doesn't sound good. Even at a low volume, an overpowered EQ band will sound terrible. Try to set everything at no higher than +/- 3dB, then adjust up or down if you have to.
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Oh thank you, I almost gave up on this question lol!
My in car is 90s set up. click the button and change bass from -5 to +5, same with treble, fade and balance. I wish I had an in-car EQ that'd be sick!
I usually listen to rock/metal music and then some pop/electronica every now and again. All music genres sound better when the bass is up a little bit because that thump is what makes you wanna move/head bang.
i'll give it a try and get back to you. Thanks for replying
AbsolutZeroGI said:
My in car is 90s set up. click the button and change bass from -5 to +5, same with treble, fade and balance. I wish I had an in-car EQ that'd be sick!
I usually listen to rock/metal music and then some pop/electronica every now and again. All music genres sound better when the bass is up a little bit because that thump is what makes you wanna move/head bang.
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yeah, I like a little extra Bass with everything too
as far as an in-car EQ, that's all I meant - just something to change the Bass/treble settings. I've got a Honda Civic and it's the same type of thing, I can adjust bass +/- 6, treble +/- 6, I usually keep my bass at +4, treble +2 in the car, then I have +3 or +5 bass and +1 treble on the phone, it sounds pretty good!
PS You might wanna check out PowerAMP from the market. It's a free 15-day trial, then $5 after that for the full version. Best app I've ever bought.
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yeah, I like a little extra Bass with everything too
as far as an in-car EQ, that's all I meant - just something to change the Bass/treble settings. I've got a Honda Civic and it's the same type of thing, I can adjust bass +/- 6, treble +/- 6, I usually keep my bass at +4, treble +2 in the car, then I have +3 or +5 bass and +1 treble on the phone, it sounds pretty good!
PS You might wanna check out PowerAMP from the market. It's a free 15-day trial, then $5 after that for the full version. Best app I've ever bought.
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I do plan on getting it eventually, I've heard nothing but good things with it. I've just seen DSP manager on all my roms and just figured out what it can do. My in car set up is +5 bass +2 treble and it sounded really good with the "rock" setting on my ipod. So hopefully i can replicate the sound on my phone.
i've considered getting a free version of poweramp to give it a try, i hate trials with a passion. get an earlier build and see what all the fuss is about lol. Thanks for all your help!
here's a screenshot of my current EQ settings..it's in PowerAMP, but you can somewhat copy it in DSP
The question I have is specific to the Bass Boost feature.
When raising the level on the Bass Boost setting, shouldn't it increase the bass and not decrease it? .. I would think that using it in conjunction with the equalizer would yield awesome results but it just completely blows.
I've tried several options, Music FX (stock), Equalizer, Volume+ and DSPManager.
All act the same.
I come from a Nexus One where I used DSPManager through CM7 roms. The bass boost setting would actually BOOST the bass. Now, it just seems to lower the sound output level and doesn't really affect the bass in anyway at all.
I'm sure Im not the only one who sees this problem.
Is tehre a fix for this or is there something that I can do to help with this?
Please chime in with your comments.
thanks,
cchhat01
from what i read, bass boost doesnt work on ICS (yet)
....of course i could be wrong
volume+ bass boost works wonders
Boosting the bass ruins the sound. And I gotta tip my hat to TI for how awesome their sound chip is.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
English is not my native language.
cchhat01 said:
The question I have is specific to the Bass Boost feature.
When raising the level on the Bass Boost setting, shouldn't it increase the bass and not decrease it? .. I would think that using it in conjunction with the equalizer would yield awesome results but it just completely blows.
I've tried several options, Music FX (stock), Equalizer, Volume+ and DSPManager.
All act the same.
I come from a Nexus One where I used DSPManager through CM7 roms. The bass boost setting would actually BOOST the bass. Now, it just seems to lower the sound output level and doesn't really affect the bass in anyway at all.
I'm sure Im not the only one who sees this problem.
Is tehre a fix for this or is there something that I can do to help with this?
Please chime in with your comments.
thanks,
cchhat01
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ICS Music player has some problems, Bass Boost is one of them. It is working in reverse and the higher you put it up the more bass it cuts off. Don't use it if you need more bass.
Install another player with more control over EQ, bass, treble and cross bleed (poweramp, for example). I have been testing different players with some audiophiles and we are very impressed with the Galaxy Nexus! No noise or hiss.
Supercurio tested the Galaxy Nexus with analog headphone amp gain and it became totally black even with very sensitive in-ears!
i use volume+ with poweramp and it's awesome makes my $10 earphones sound like a $300 pair
supercurio's Voodoo sound not supported yet?
English is not my native language.
nexusphone_user said:
supercurio's Voodoo sound not supported yet?
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Not yet. The Galaxy Nexus uses a chip from Texas Instruments and Voodoo uses the Wolfson Audio.
The Supercurio dev got a Galaxy Nexus and he's working on it.
From Supercurio:
[email protected] Yes after study I can tell #GalaxyNexus will receive some #VoodooSound improvements. Screen: not studied enough yet.
tigajr said:
Not yet. The Galaxy Nexus uses a chip from Texas Instruments and Voodoo uses the Wolfson Audio.
The Supercurio dev got a Galaxy Nexus and he's working on it.
From Supercurio:
[email protected] Yes after study I can tell #GalaxyNexus will receive some #VoodooSound improvements. Screen: not studied enough yet.
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I am not sure I need voodoo...seriously though,I totally lived on voodoo on my galaxy s and my transformer ,but the galaxy nexus sound chip blows everything out of the water....I fall in love with it and my klipsch s4 every morning!
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I am not sure I need voodoo...seriously though,I totally lived on voodoo on my galaxy s and my transformer ,but the galaxy nexus sound chip blows everything out of the water....I fall in love with it and my klipsch s4 every morning!
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I completely agree.
The Galaxy Nexus is a superb audiophile phone. When I plug my sennheisers and touch the play button (Poweramp, of course), the only thing I can say is WOW!
Not sure I agree with it being an audiophile phone, but it gets by. If you really want better bass, buy an external headphone amplifier (under $40) with a bass boost circuit. This may be more than some headphones can handles depending on the material. You can do lots with the built-in EQ on Winamp and Poweramp, though.
Does the Beats Audio sound mod really make a difference with music playback or is it more of a placebo effect?
naosuke said:
Does the Beats Audio sound mod really make a difference with music playback or is it more of a placebo effect?
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It truly makes a difference. It artificially increases the output of all sub 120hz frequencies so that the bass sounds louder and heavier.
It's a gimmick, "Raistline" explained it best:
""My reasoning is as follows.
On the Beats Audio HW side, it is overprices POS that lives on name brand along, much like BOSE. This is not to say the Hardware is bad, but rather that it is highly over-priced for what you get and can often get better quality for 1/3rd or less of the MSRP if you buy other brands.
As for the SW side of things Beats audio artificially increases the the lower end of the audio spectrum through audio "enhancement" algorithms which actually colors the sound and effects not only the Lower Bass but Mid-bass as well and imho ruins the music. It ruins it by changing the sound signature drastically from the original. Basically from all I have seen through wave-guide charts is that it adds or amplifies all frequencies under 120hz to be at an equal or higher level than the highest output for a single frequency. In short, it makes all music sound heavy in bass whether or not it was the artists original intention.""
Flash Paradox and you will see it in full effect..well a tweaked effect. On my sensation its horrible but I pulled all files and combined them with DSP manager...
Now you can toggle it on or off via DSP settings.
I tweaked it so it sounds much much cleaner and you can tweak it to ur liking in DSP Manager
My personal rule of HiFi. If you need EQ or any extra sound 'enhancers' you just need some new speakers/headphones.
JhonKa said:
My personal rule of HiFi. If you need EQ or any extra sound 'enhancers' you just need some new speakers/headphones.
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Not always true, sometimes different hardware will react differently, plus the environment you are listening to makes a difference. That being said, artificially increasing EQ values across the board usually means your shortfall is hardware related, like you said.
Master&Slave™ said:
Flash Paradox and you will see it in full effect..well a tweaked effect. On my sensation its horrible but I pulled all files and combined them with DSP manager...
Now you can toggle it on or off via DSP settings.
I tweaked it so it sounds much much cleaner and you can tweak it to ur liking in DSP Manager
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I use professional audio equipment all day everyday. Beats does nothing amazing and in most cases makes music sound worse. If you have crappy monitors or cheap headphones, its possible for beats to push the already mediocre lower end more. The only problem is it makes music that is already clear sound muddy. Best thing you can do is listen to quality music (FLAC, MP4, AIFF, WAV, 320kbs). Raising the response of lower frequencies in horribly compressed music (96-224kbs & vbs) is only gonna make it sound worse over the whole spectrum. If your looking for a quick way to make your Bieber or Lil Wayne pirated copy sound better, this will do just fine for your needs. For true audiophiles and sound junkies, beats is nothing more than a cheap gimmick marketed at people who just wanna look cool.
Well I'm going to be talking about my speaker performance on the 10 compared to my previous phone the HTC One M8.
I don't know how HTC thought the 10's sound quality via the speaker was acceptable. I mean don't get me wrong the clarity of the sound from the speakers blows the m8 away for miles. It's hard to listen to the M8 without thinking how bad the clarity is imo. BUT the 10 is not as loud. The 10's tweeter on the front sometimes over powers the sub on the bottom and makes the song sound thin and tinny. I even tried flac files and still same thing. Not every song does this but a lot do. It doesn't have the force or drive like the M8 does. It seems like left (tweeter) and right (sub woofer) channels of song. You put the left and right together to get the full sound of the song. The M8 I believe has the left and right channels of the song on both speakers. That makes it more fuller an louder.
The M8 is pretty mushed at high volume meaning, it feels like all the instruments in the song are mashed together and thrown at you imo which is why I think the M8 doesn't have great clarity at all.
I'd like to say having clarity over mushed but louder and fuller sound is better but honestly I don't know anymore BUT hey the 10 has great headphone audio and other great features that make it worth having over the M8.
Let me know what you think and hopefully you guys have a better experience with sound meaning, there is a possibility that my device's speaker are defective lol.
Coming from an M8, I would say the HTC 10 definitely clearer but not as loud as the M8. However, it feels HTC worked on sound quality versus just making it loud.
It's a worthy trade-off. Using two different speakers for highs and lows is a brilliant idea and it really shows. I prefer listening to music at a mild volume for clarity versus loud somewhat distorted.
There were phones that were louder than the M8 but not as clear which is what BoomSounds trademark is.
On the 10, I can hear leaves rustling, fire popping, and other ambient noise that has never sounded so crisp, distinct, and natural. I feel like its the ATH-M50 of mobile sound with his balance.
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try music mode its almost stereo
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that felt the speakers sounded a bit tinny, especially at max volumes. It seemed a bit underwelming compared to my Nexus 6p. At moderate volumes however, it sounds decent. Lots of clarity.
Has anyone installed V4A and tried volume boost or increasing gain?
and i hate that boom sound doesn't work when using soundcloud google play yes and apple music no soundcloud wtf
Heisenberg420 said:
Has anyone installed V4A and tried volume boost or increasing gain?
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No since vzw got no root yet BUT poweramp has a volume booster and it is doing wonders.
How's sound quality through headphone... Is it upto the hype
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saj2001ind said:
How's sound quality through headphone... Is it upto the hype
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The headphone jack is awesome and the audio profiles are badass. Creating profiles is done using two options: "Answer questions" which asks your age, styles of music you generally listen to, etc., and "Listen to frequencies" which generates a much more detailed 5-band EQ. The latter is much better because you can tune it based on what you can actually hear in either ear - it plays a frequency tone in the left headphone, you adjust the volume until you can barely hear it, then it plays a higher tone, you adjust volume, etc., and then it repeats the process for the right ear.
This is beneficial since boosting certain frequencies is often more useful (and less harmful to your hearing) than just cranking up the overall volume. No one has "perfect" hearing and hearing loss is often not uniform across the normal range of audible frequencies, nor is it necessarily uniform from left ear to right ear. In my case, my left ear required a little extra bass and highs while my right ear needed extra mid-range.
You can also use this to adjust the headphone output to specific listening environments you encounter. For example, creating an audio profile while on an airplane should be able to compensate for the engine noise. Later this morning I'll be setting up a profile with my lawnmower running outside, so I'm looking forward to hearing the results.
My only complaints are UI related:
1. The audio profiles are buried about 3 levels deep in Settings. When you plug in headphones, you get the "HTC BoomSound with Dolby Audio" card in the notification shade. Tapping the card takes you to the main Settings app, where you tap "HTC BoomSound with Dolby Audio" again, then "Personal Audio Profile", then choose or create your profile. Would have liked something a little simpler to use, or at least have the notification card go directly to the BoomSound settings instead of requiring an extra tap.
2. There doesn't appear to be a way to edit a profile or view its settings after you create it. You can enable it or you can delete it. -- EDIT: This is incorrect; I am an idiot. You tap in the profile to edit it.
3. The audio profiles are completely hidden when the headphone jack is not in use. You can't even see the profiles you've created. Tapping on "HTC BoomSound with Dolby Audio" in Settings just toggles the speakers between Music Mode and Theater Mode.
tl;dr - lives up to the hype. Maybe even better than hyped.
Source: have mixed audio (both live and recording settings) for >10 years, did my testing with a pair of Audio-Technica studio headphones.
I've got a pretty good system in my car and I just tried it out a few minutes ago. It sounds amazing! I'm coming from an M8 with V4A and it sounds about the same in some respects and better in others. I created a profile with frequencies and the difference after doing so was definitely noticeable. I like that they even have a high quality sample with a toggle so you can compare very easily. I do miss the Clarity setting and the equalizer in V4A, but overall I am extremely pleased!
What I'm running, for reference:
Arc Audio XDI 600 amp
Focal i165 fronts
JBL 3-way 6x9 rears
12" Diamond Audio sub
Regarding the "Personal Audio Profile", I understand you can create multiple profiles yeah? Can you give those profiles custom names?
I for example would probably like to do at least three different "listen to frequencies" profiles: for my Piston 3's, the HTC hi-res buds and for my superlux hd-330's.
Would be nice if you can name them however you want ;D
Also is there an option somewhere within the settings to disable the 16>24 upsampling bs?
Checked out the 10 at Verizon side by side to my M8. Played same YouTube song. 10 is clearer but, very tinny and I can't here it over the surrounding noise, tried both modes. The M8 at least I can hear it and can't believe people say you can't hear the stereo separation, you can if you turn the device side ways. Over all having the choice I would pick the two front facing speakers all day long. I think HTC blew it hear, at least there is a work around with Bluetooth speaker. This is a amazing device except for the speakers and lack of IR blaster. I will still get the 10 mainly for the dev support this will get.
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Checked out the 10 at Verizon side by side to my M8. Played same YouTube song. 10 is clearer but, very tinny and I can't here it over the surrounding noise, tried both modes. The M8 at least I can hear it and can't believe people say you can't hear the stereo separation, you can if you turn the device side ways. Over all having the choice I would pick the two front facing speakers all day long. I think HTC blew it hear, at least there is a work around with Bluetooth speaker. This is a amazing device except for the speakers and lack of IR blaster. I will still get the 10 mainly for the dev support this will get.
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If they could, I am sure they would have kept the front facing speakers, but that would have meant bigger bezels, on-screen navigation keys and fingerprint scanner at the back. That would have killed the device from the outset, so the current speaker configuration is the best compromise.
lagittaja said:
Regarding the "Personal Audio Profile", I understand you can create multiple profiles yeah? Can you give those profiles custom names?
I for example would probably like to do at least three different "listen to frequencies" profiles: for my Piston 3's, the HTC hi-res buds and for my superlux hd-330's.
Would be nice if you can name them however you want ;D
Also is there an option somewhere within the settings to disable the 16>24 upsampling bs?
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1) You can create multiple profiles and name it whatever you want.
2) Upscaling bit-depth from 16 to 24 will NOT do any harm in theory (loseless), yet upsampling sample rate to a non-integer multiple of original may trigger a process called SRC, for example 44.1Khz -> 192Khz, which might cause some minor accuracy problem, but it's still transparent to human ears.
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If they could, I am sure they would have kept the front facing speakers, but that would have meant bigger bezels, on-screen navigation keys and fingerprint scanner at the back. That would have killed the device from the outset, so the current speaker configuration is the best compromise.
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Probably true, the fingerprint scanner is to close to the bottom, kinda of a stretch one handed, if it would have been put were the HTC logo is on the M8 would have been more comfortable and possibly squeezed the lower speaker. You can't have everything in life so you make due...lol
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robbo10 said:
Probably true, the fingerprint scanner is to close to the bottom, kinda of a stretch one handed, if it would have been put were the HTC logo is on the M8 would have been more comfortable and possibly squeezed the lower speaker. You can't have everything in life so you make due...lol
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Still because of htc keep the boomsound setup. If you look closely at samsung s7, you will notice samsung hide their display circuit at the top, beneath the logo. But samsung's top speaker is a very very small one, meanwhile htc used 2 large speakers , top and bottom.
So basically htc had to move the fingerprint sensor a bit lower.
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1) You can create multiple profiles and name it whatever you want.
2) Upscaling bit-depth from 16 to 24 will NOT do any harm in theory (loseless), yet upsampling sample rate to a non-integer multiple of original may trigger a process called SRC, for example 44.1Khz -> 192Khz, which might cause some minor accuracy problem, but it's still transparent to human ears.
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1) Thanks for the confirmation.
2) Excuse me for using the wrong term, but you didn't answer the question. Surely it can't be so hard? Is there an option or is there not?
lagittaja said:
1) Thanks for the confirmation.
2) Excuse me for using the wrong term, but you didn't answer the question. Surely it can't be so hard? Is there an option or is there not?
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Sorry I just forgot to answer that while explaining. No, there's no switch. And I couldn't even confirm the 16->24 conversion exists, official site state that they used a 24-bit capable dac, but didn't mention anything about upscaling/upsampling. If you have the source please don't hesitate to tell me.
HTC Nexus 9 I believe. That device had dual front facing speakers and those were really thin and on the edge of the screen, so I think they could have done something. With the 10, a volume booster makes it sound better but still tinny on the tweeter.
If you really want to hear a good example, play the song "vengeful one" by Disturbed, the intro is the tinniest sound you'll ever hear on the tweeter.
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Sorry I just forgot to answer that while explaining. No, there's no switch. And I couldn't even confirm the 16->24 conversion exists, official site state that they used a 24-bit capable dac, but didn't mention anything about upscaling/upsampling. If you have the source please don't hesitate to tell me.
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Well, you can switch BoomSound on/off entirely, but who knows if that changes the bit depth.
Your question about the audio profiles was already answered, but here are some screenshots of the profiles I made and what their EQs look like. I used the "listen to frequencies" method for all of them.
Hello I am new to the forums.
I am very obsessed with good audio quality, this was the main reason why I got this new phone, but so far I have been very disappointed by its audio capabilities while listening with Bose Sound True earphones.
The first thing I did on my 10 was to download poweramp, configured my equalizer to a standard warm sound signature, then set bass to medium and sparkle to a little pass medium. Basically the same sound equalization I have on my m7. Next, I configured the headphone profile; in this case I end it up with the volume at the the lowest for all frequencies, as I was able to faintly hear all of them from the low to the highs at the lowest volume. Afterwards, I set up the dobly headphone effects to HTC ear buds.
I was very disappointed by the outcome, the low frequencies have a small distortion and the highs sound washed off. I no longer hear all the instruments playing as the lows drown more subtle instruments and the highs have very little clarity to them, they just sound loud and obnoxious. My m7 with Beats on picked up all the subtleties in my music and the lows had this pleasant fullness to them. The 10 is louder but that's about it, it now even hurts my ears when I listen past medium volume. How is this possible? Isn't the DAC on the 10 way better than that of the m7? Could this be faulty hardware? or could it be a software related issue?
Please help me figure out whats going on, I can't believe that my old phone sounds better. I almost feel like asking for a refund at this point. I have also tried using a plain sound player such as google music that has no EQ on it, but I can still pick a slight distortion, the m7 doesn't sound as loud in this case but it just sounds much cleaner.
PS. Just for reference all my tracks are 320kbs and I listen to mostly Metal.
Thanks for your help!
Try lossless flac, you'll probably find the DAC up converting 320mp3's hightlights the defects
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Turn off BoomSound/beats if you're really obsessed with audio. They absolutely destroy the balance to the point of it sounding like I'm listening with a beats headphone.
The 10 drives my cans better than any phone or tablet that I have/had. I listen to EVERYTHING and it handles every genre perfectly.
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richii0207 said:
Turn off BoomSound/beats if you're really obsessed with audio. They absolutely destroy the balance to the point of it sounding like I'm listening with beats headphone.
The 10 drives my cans better than any phone or tablet that I have/had.
What are you using to listen?
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Eh, I know many say that it is better to leave the EQ alone, but that is hard to do for me because 1) I most have 320 mp3s and very flew Flacs, some are even at 192k and 128k but thats because I have a very old and extensive library. 2) I do love warm sound signatures XD.
By the way, I am listening right now to Talos principle - Sanctuary in flac and at 0:25 when there are all those low frecuencies it just sound a little distorted, I would say it sounds abnormally loud on my 10, and it sounds clear on my m7. Check out The Talos Principle OST - Sanctuary on youtube for reference, I am prevented from posting outside links due to my newb status.
I use Bose true sound earphones, they are just mid-range phones nothing too special, but they do sound better with my old phone. Could it be this earphones can't handle the 10's frequencies?
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By the way, I am listening right now to Talos principle - Sanctuary in flac and at 0:25 when there are all those low frecuencies it just sound a little distorted, I would say it sounds abnormally loud on my 10, and it sounds clear on my m7. Check out The Talos Principle OST - Sanctuary on youtube for reference, I am prevented from posting outside links due to my newb status.
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Just had a listen to Sanctuary on Spotify and it sounds very impressive to me.
I'm using Shure 535 and everything sounds crystal clear to me.
There are two settings when headphones are plugged in under the boomsound setting. One is the Dolby headphone effects setting, the other is the custom profile you set up with your headphones. Try turning off the Dolby headphones effects. My HTC 10 can drive headphones like no other HTC product I have owned in the past, and it sounds better to me with the Dolby effects turned off.
Dunno man.... mine sounds freaking amazing.
using a custom EQ (set up with the frequency thing) and I'm just using a cheap set of Skull Candy headphones I use mostly for gaming
@isnoc I think that did away with the distortion! disabling the dobly effects has a positive impact on sound reproduction, the music doesn't sound as loud. However, the m7s bass sounds a little cleaner. It could be matter of sound signatures at this point. Where I really hear the difference is in the song Machine Gunn Eddie by Nitro. The m7 seems to sound slightly better due to the cleaner bass. I was expecting a night and day difference between these 2 phones =_(
Out of curiosity what mods are you running on the m7? When I had mine (still looking for where I left it...) I had zeroinfinity's and some extra buildprop changes and a kernel that supported the audio changes lol. I don't them side by side to test, but in my car and my porta-pro's from the sound I remember the 10 sounds a lot better to me.
Sugetsu1 said:
@isnoc I think that did away with the distortion! disabling the dobly effects has a positive impact on sound reproduction, the music doesn't sound as loud. However, the m7s bass sounds a little cleaner. It could be matter of sound signatures at this point. Where I really hear the difference is in the song Machine Gunn Eddie by Nitro. The m7 seems to sound slightly better due to the cleaner bass. I was expecting a night and day difference between these 2 phones =_(
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You mentioned using beats on your M7. The beats eq exaggerates the bass which is probably what you're hearing. Have you tried turning it off and hearing the difference?
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Ok I just noticed that my phone distorts at higher volumes, namely anything on medium high or above, no matter the bit rate of the song. This is where bass and highs start to suffer. My m7 plays music beautifully with 0 distortion at all levels. Does anyone else here suffer from distortion problems with the 10? Do I have a faulty phone?
@joeyrushlow I never bothered rooting or isntalling a custom rom on my m7, never saw the need for it. All I use for sound is the included beats audio dsp and poweramp and plays everything beautifully with distortion of any kind.
@richii0207 The m7 without beats audio does sound very flat, it is true that the main characteristic of Beats is enhancing the bass, but it also increase the volume across the spectrum in a more subtle way, in any case I get no distortion and everything sounds crystal clear.
I wonder, other than the EQ setup on the 10, and the potential of the quality of the DAC, there might not actually be a significant difference between DACs. Subtle definitely. Discernable for sure. But a significant difference that the 10 has over past phones is the amplifier driving the headphones. Could you be overdriving your headphones on the 10, and not on the M7? There are many things to consider that I do not have the skill to properly discuss like impedance for example. Or it could be a slight difference in your EQ settings.
I can say this, comparing my M9 to my 10. The sound is very very similar to my ears (disappointing I know right?) with two exceptions. One, the 10's sound is more expansive, or I should say there is more separation, so I know that with better recordings the 10 will sound better than my M9. Two, the 10 has more power at volume. I don't want to say louder, but it is louder, but clearer as well, as the volume goes up. It has more juice than my M9 does. I could dig out my M7, but I expect a similar experience. I like my 10. Perhaps you could listen to one in a store, a live demo one, to see if your phone has an issue.