Question Aspect Ratio of Display vs Camera - Google Pixel 6 Pro

I switched from a OnePlus 9 Pro to a P6P and the one thing i've noticed that really bothers me(just OCD) is that the camera aspect ratio does not match the display. I end up with the large black bars on either side of the picture, even when taken at 16:9. My OP9P matches and filled the screen completely which was beautiful. Am I the only one that this bothers and is there some way around this that I don't know of? Or is anyone just able to make me feel better about it overall? Yes, just like a support group!
I still have my OP9P and have time to return my P6P yet should I end up going that route. This is probably the only reason.

I know there's an option in the settings for aspect ratio but I haven't paid attention to the details. I know I had initially changed it from the defaults but when I factory reset and rooted I've kept the default for the aspect ratio and I don't remember noticing anything odd about it.

Simply said, just look at the aspect ratio's:
Screen ratio: 19.5 x 9
Image ratio: 16 x 9 (or 4 x 3)
So you can see that you need black bars top/bottom (portrait mode) to 'fill' the space between 16 and 19.5.
It's not totally 'accurate' as theoretically you might have non-square pixels, but anyway.
4:3 aspect ratio in the camera will be even worse 4:3 => 12:9 so needs to 'fill' space between 12 and 19.5 with bars.
Nothing you can do about it.
I came from a OnePlus phone as well ... initially was also slightly frustrated by that. The full screen images on the OnePlus indeed look nice.
Would I return the phone just for that ... hmm ... no ... the recent (and future) direction of OnePlus' software frustrates me more than the 2 black bars on the P6P photos display.
Up to you of course ;-)

foobar66 said:
Simply said, just look at the aspect ratio's:
Screen ratio: 19.5 x 9
Image ratio: 16 x 9 (or 4 x 3)
So you can see that you need black bars top/bottom (portrait mode) to 'fill' the space between 16 and 19.5.
It's not totally 'accurate' as theoretically you might have non-square pixels, but anyway.
4:3 aspect ratio in the camera will be even worse 4:3 => 12:9 so needs to 'fill' space between 12 and 19.5 with bars.
Nothing you can do about it.
I came from a OnePlus phone as well ... initially was also slightly frustrated by that. The full screen images on the OnePlus indeed look nice.
Would I return the phone just for that ... hmm ... no ... the recent (and future) direction of OnePlus' software frustrates me more than the 2 black bars on the P6P photos display.
Up to you of course ;-)
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No, I understand all that. Just trying to convince myself it's not a problem. Haha.

awarman said:
I switched from a OnePlus 9 Pro to a P6P and the one thing i've noticed that really bothers me(just OCD) is that the camera aspect ratio does not match the display. I end up with the large black bars on either side of the picture, even when taken at 16:9. My OP9P matches and filled the screen completely which was beautiful. Am I the only one that this bothers and is there some way around this that I don't know of? Or is anyone just able to make me feel better about it overall? Yes, just like a support group!
I still have my OP9P and have time to return my P6P yet should I end up going that route. This is probably the only reason.
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ALL Camera sensors are 4:3 ratio. No exceptions. Whatever shows up on your screen that looks like another aspect ratio is obtained through cropping. If it doesn't match your screen, pick a different camera resolution (ratio) that does. The display on P6P is 19.5:9 ratio, so find a camera resolution that matches.

96carboard said:
ALL Camera sensors are 4:3 ratio. No exceptions. Whatever shows up on your screen that looks like another aspect ratio is obtained through cropping. If it doesn't match your screen, pick a different camera resolution (ratio) that does. The display on P6P is 19.5:9 ratio, so find a camera resolution that matches.
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I don't think there is a way to match the resolution with the display ratio on it though. I'm betting it's going to take a 3rd party camera app or gcam to do it?

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The HTC One X Camera Support thread

Hello everyone,
I’ve decided to start this thread to ask for your help in creating a central One X Camera Support thread.
Please feel free to share all your experience, best tips & tricks, advice, links and anything else you may feel useful. Also feel free to ask questions if you're having trouble!
Over the coming days, weeks and months, I’ll do my best to organise useful info within this first post to help people get the info they need quickly and easilly. I’ll also try to put together some tutorials of my own as we go along.
Cheers,
Bugsy.
Here's a tiny selection to be going on with. There are many more to come, and I'll find a way to make it more tidy soon:
Why are my photos 6MP instead of 8MP?
While the One X can take 8 megapixel images (and will do with a simple change of settings), the phone’s CMOS sensor is designed to capture images with a different aspect ratio to that of the phone’s physical display (4:3 vs 16:9 respectively). What this means, is that 8 megapixel photos don’t fill the entire display and result in black bands being shown down either side of the image. To combat this, HTC include (and enable by default) a widescreen option that crops the image to make it fill the entire screen. This results in a more visually appealing look that makes full use of the screen's real estate.
If you want to disable this function and capture full 8MP photos, you can do this quite easily via the camera’s settings menu (Settings>Camera Options>Widescreen).
If you’d like to know more about the effect this option has on functionality and image quality, I’ve put together a short video that may help:
http://youtu.be/JU-NLQrjb9w
When I start recording HD video, my camera zooms in. Why is that?
This is often thought to stem from only a small portion of the sensor being used for video capture. However, In the case of the One X, the main cause appears to be the result of pixels being reserved for Image Stabilisation. By cropping the camera’s view, HTC are able to use the spare pixels from outside the visible frame to counteract motion. The downside is a limited Field of View.
Currently, the effect of Real Time Image Stabilisation seems quite limited, so you may wish to trade this feature for a better viewing angle. Thankfully, HTC do allow you to do this via the settings menu (Settings>Video Options>Stabilisation). By disabling this option, you will gain (almost) the same field of view that you have in standard widescreen photo mode. The difference will be more visible in 720p mode due to the different capturing technique used.
I want to take low Light photos without using the flash. Is ISO 800 the maximum setting I can use?
ISO 800 is the highest level that you can select manually, but the phone will use anything up to ISO1250 if you leave the ISO mode set to Auto (or if you use Low Light Scene mode, which overrides any manual setting). Unfortunately there isn’t currently a way to manually select anything higher than ISO800 within the stock app.
The 4:3 live preview image doesn’t look sharp
This appears to be a software scaling issue that affects the stock app. Hopefully HTC will fix this in a future software update.
Will using a screen protector on the lens affect picture quality?
Image quality is really quite subjective. What one person considers a distinct loss of quality, another may consider negligible. Personally, I wouldn’t use one, as even the best protectors cause some degree of image degradation.
Having said this, you really have to consider your own personal situation. Are you someone that puts your phone in your pocket without a case or pouch? Do you have young children that might put the phone on a rough surface without considering the consequence? One thing is for sure – a screen protector will cause fewer problems than a lens covered with scratches!
White or light objects have a glow around them, especially when it’s sunny
This problem is, almost without fail, the result of finger prints on the lens (or possibly a lens protector if you have one). You’d be surprised how the smallest greasy mark can affect the picture in this way. Unfortunately, lens HTC’s lens design does little to help keep the lens clean.
This is a good thread for inspiration: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398
I'll get the discussion ball rolling. 16:9 or 4:3, I can't decide. I like 16:9 as it looks good on the screen and TVs and monitors are also 16:9. But physical media is all 4:3. Is it time physical media got with the times. Does the cropping effect the quality?
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I'll get the discussion ball rolling. 16:9 or 4:3, I can't decide.
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He he.. People are going to think I put you up to that question when they see my reply.
Here's a video I prepared earlier:
Bugsy.
xn1 said:
I'll get the discussion ball rolling. 16:9 or 4:3, I can't decide. I like 16:9 as it looks good on the screen and TVs and monitors are also 16:9. But physical media is all 4:3. Is it time physical media got with the times. Does the cropping effect the quality?
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well i'd say for pictures 4:3 is better since it's just a non cutdown version of the 16:9 picture so u have more on it and later can edit it on pc to make sure u have the best result.
Vey nicely put together video. Many thanks.
anub1s18 said:
well i'd say for pictures 4:3 is better since it's just a non cutdown version of the 16:9 picture so u have more on it and later can edit it on pc to make sure u have the best result.
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Higher pixel density in 4.3
I can't find a widescreen option on my phone, I am stock.
Open the camera, go to the settings and choose camera options.
There you can change the resolution 16:9 or 4:3
jag233 said:
I can't find a widescreen option on my phone, I am stock.
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jag233 said:
I can't find a widescreen option on my phone, I am stock.
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Open camera app hit the cog find camera options and untick wide screen for full res shots.
Edit; beaten to it lol
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Thanks for the replies lads, I have been taking photos in widescreen all this time what an idiot
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Higher pixel density in 4.3
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4:3 images have more pixels, but they are spread over a larger area, right?. I don't see where the density of anything changes. Or am I missing something?
jag233 said:
Thanks for the replies lads, I have been taking photos in widescreen all this time what an idiot
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You're not an idiot - HTC have it set that way by default.
There is no definitive right or wrong choice, but knowing the pros and cons of each mode will certainly help to make your decision easier.
Whichever way people go though, disabling widescreen mode may be a good option for panoramic shots...
Unfortunately HTC still don't allow you to change the phone's orientation for panoramas. This means that your panoramas will be very wide, but not particularly tall. Until such time that HTC change this, disabling widescreen mode will maximise the height of your captures (you'll gain a few hundred pixels). Worth considering
Bugsy.
craigspc said:
4:3 images have more pixels, but they are spread over a larger area, right?. I don't see where the density of anything changes. Or am I missing something?
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No, you're not missing anything. Images shot in 4:3 mode are approximately 600 pixels taller, but those additional pixels are, as you say - used to capture a larger vertical area. Pixel density doesn't change.
Bugsy, thank you for such an excellent video explaining the differences between 16:9 and 4:3 apspect ratios, which many users find confusing.
I hope you don't mind but I've shared a link to your video on the 'HTC ONE Users Group' over at Flickr, giving you full credit
http://www.flickr.com/groups/htc-one/
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Bugsy, thank you for such an excellent video explaining the differences between 16:9 and 4:3 apspect ratios, which many users find confusing.
I hope you don't mind but I've shared a link to your video on the 'HTC ONE Users Group' over at Flickr, giving you full credit
http://www.flickr.com/groups/htc-one/
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You're very welcome - I'm glad you liked it. Feel free to share links to anything I do freely. You don't need to ask for my permission.
Just wanted to do the right thing Bugsy, especially when you've put so much work into this
Changing the subject if anyone would like to see a comparision I did between the stock camera app, Camera ICS, Camera 360 and Camera FV-5, please check out the following link.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/htc-one/discuss/72157629696073156/
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He he.. People are going to think I put you up to that question when they see my reply.
Here's a video I prepared earlier:
Bugsy.
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Hehe, they might just, but thank you for the video. I think I'll switch to 4:3 but I will miss full screen pictures
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Also, something I have found. With saturation set to -1 the colors seem more natural. Especially with reds in low light
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I turn the exposure down by 1 as I find it blows out highlights on the regular exposure.
I agree that the saturation gives more natural colours if you dial that down by 1 as well. I quite like the 'kodak' look though
I am finding that the auto white balance gives a red cast, especially when there is a lot of green in the image (such as in a park). I have also found that the daylight white balance is way to yellow.

Can't adjust Camera Resolution?

Anyone have this issue?
All I can select is 1:1, 4:3, and 16:9. Nothing else. What the heck is this?
Same here. No quality adjustment. Only aspect ratio.
Same very weird
aachil said:
Same very weird
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Between this and the **** battery life im sending this thing back.
DrexelDragon said:
Between this and the **** battery life im sending this thing back.
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What are you going to get? The S6 is way worse.
geoff5093 said:
What are you going to get? The S6 is way worse.
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I have an S6 Edge. My battery life is better on there than it is on my G4.
DrexelDragon said:
I have an S6 Edge. My battery life is better on there than it is on my G4.
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From owning the S6 for a week, and reading all the reviews and people posting here, I'd say it's unanimous that the battery on the S6 is awful. It would last half as long as my G3, and that was with many features disabled, bloatware disabled, and I used Greenify. Great battery life when using the phone, but standby was awful.
Why would you want to turn the photo quality down?
chrisokaly said:
Why would you want to turn the photo quality down?
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Jesus. The problem is there's no indication of what resolution you are taking the picture at at ALL. An idiotic thing to leave out of a camera app.
DrexelDragon said:
Jesus. The problem is there's no indication of what resolution you are taking the picture at at ALL. An idiotic thing to leave out of a camera app.
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Exactly!
chrisokaly said:
Why would you want to turn the photo quality down?
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So many reasons......
File size, image size, image preview speeds, upload limits on websites, being unecessary in general, etc. It's really sad that there's no resolution adjustment.....
Maybe check for a photo size option? Like S/M/L? My DSLR does it like that.
Hi everyone,
While I'm waiting for my phone to reach me, I have a recommendation and suggestion.
I believe changing the aspect ratio itself will adjust the resolution.
As with my previous phones, I think the 4:3 ratio would be the full, native, 16 MP resolution, or a photo size of 4608 x 3456 (multiply 4608 by 3456, you get 15.9 million pixels, or 16 MP)
A middle resolution would be the 16:9 ratio
The lower resolution would be the 1:1 ratio
Please, if someone could take a photo with the last 2 ratios, and let us know the photo dimensions, then we can figure out the resolution
Update:
Well... it seems I may have been wrong.
I found some 16:9 photos on this forum, and judging by the size, they're also 16 MP. It's very odd but it looks like this could be possible because of a customized sensor.
I'm not sure how it works really, but my theory goes down the drain :/
I agree, it is irritating. Likewise there is no indication on the video side of things what frame-rates everything is recorded in, having a choice between 1080p30 and 1080p60 would be good, as well as 720p30/60/120.
I find myself using the native app for random quick pictures and then using FV-5 for more indepth photography...
nadram said:
Hi everyone,
While I'm waiting for my phone to reach me, I have a recommendation and suggestion.
I believe changing the aspect ratio itself will adjust the resolution.
As with my previous phones, I think the 4:3 ratio would be the full, native, 16 MP resolution, or a photo size of 4608 x 3456 (multiply 4608 by 3456, you get 15.9 million pixels, or 16 MP)
A middle resolution would be the 16:9 ratio
The lower resolution would be the 1:1 ratio
Please, if someone could take a photo with the last 2 ratios, and let us know the photo dimensions, then we can figure out the resolution
Update:
Well... it seems I may have been wrong.
I found some 16:9 photos on this forum, and judging by the size, they're also 16 MP. It's very odd but it looks like this could be possible because of a customized sensor.
I'm not sure how it works really, but my theory goes down the drain :/
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I have tried it
the 16:9 is the full resolution
both 4:3 and 1:1 are cropped images
Salbawardi2 said:
I have tried it
the 16:9 is the full resolution
both 4:3 and 1:1 are cropped images
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Also no choice for RAW unless in manual mode. RAW 16:9 option would be nice for auto along with other resolution choice.
Just to confirm, the default 16:9 ratio gives you the full 16MP.
starfcker69 said:
Also no choice for RAW unless in manual mode. RAW 16:9 option would be nice for auto along with other resolution choice.
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That's true, but you can go into manual mode and not toggle things you want to change, which basically means it's still in auto mode, except you can now get RAW.
just use Google camera
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just use Google camera
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Google camera lets you shoot in raw?
no but you can at least change the resolution for your pictures, solution for that for now
Delirious17 said:
no but you can at least change the resolution for your pictures, solution for that for now
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So you buy the G4 only to load Google Camera with its crappy processing?

Camera Super Pixel 63.5 MP photos on Lg v10

Hi guys I just want to share with all of you a new app for all lg v10 phones It take photos with a resolution of 63.5MP on our V10 i saw this thread on nexus 5x and tried on my v10 and it works flawlessly I'm not part of the development of the app . It's on the Play Store here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anforapps.camerasuperpixel
good one to share , thank you
anirudhks said:
good one to share , thank you
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Your welcome mate
Tested camera Super Pixel, quite impressive, 43.3 MB, couldnt attach, too large, had to upload to OneDrive :good:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=1ADC5303B8000E17!167484&authkey=!AB8IRnFt2qnChbQ&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg
Photo by LG camera attached :good:
Not much different, doesnt have manual setting, take up too much space
vip57 said:
Hi guys I just want to share with all of you a new app for all lg v10 phones It take photos with a resolution of 63.5MP on our V10 i saw this thread on nexus 5x and tried on my v10 and it works flawlessly I'm not part of the development of the app . It's on the Play Store here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anforapps.camerasuperpixel
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I appreciate you sharing this and all but...... The V10 camera is capable of producing a photo that is 5312 pixels x 2988 pixels, that has 16 million pixels in it. That is the maximum that the sensor is capable of producing. They are not ever REALLY going to be able to increase it 4x without physically changing the camera sensor. You can modify the dimensions of the image all you want, but the sensor just cant do any more than 16mp
kangi26 said:
I appreciate you sharing this and all but...... The V10 camera is capable of producing a photo that is 5312 pixels x 2988 pixels, that has 16 million pixels in it. That is the maximum that the sensor is capable of producing. They are not ever REALLY going to be able to increase it 4x without physically changing the camera sensor. You can modify the dimensions of the image all you want, but the sensor just cant do any more than 16mp
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You cannot change the sensor size, but you can get different number of pixels with the same sensor size, you have 23 Mp phone cameras with same size sensor, or smaller, than others with 12 Mp, like the last Samsung and Huawei, etc...
Having said that, you dont get more info, just 4x more pixels extrapolated from the original. The photos do look sharper, as I confirmed with my tests, but when I resize them to same size, they look the same, and the files are so large they wont load to apps, or be resized like on facebook and look the same again
Bottom line, only worth if we want to make a large print or display in a large hi-rez screen
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You cannot change the sensor size, but you can get different number of pixels with the same sensor size, you have 23 Mp phone cameras with same size sensor, or smaller, than others with 12 Mp, like the last Samsung and Huawei, etc...
Having said that, you dont get more info, just 4x more pixels extrapolated from the original. The photos do look sharper, as I confirmed with my tests, but when I resize them to same size, they look the same, and the files are so large they wont load to apps, or be resized like on facebook and look the same again
Bottom line, only worth if we want to make a large print or display in a large hi-rez screen
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The point I was trying to make (although maybe not all that well), is that you CAN increase the size of the picture, you can make it 100000x160000 and have a picture at 16GP, but if the sensor is only capable of capturing 16MP, you're going to have a pixilated image. Even with some very fancy software work.
With the actual resolution the V10 is capable of taking photos, they can be printed out to large format or displayed on any large monitor without ANY issues at all. (I have a 12mp DSLR and have printed photos up to 4ft wide with EASE)
I guess I'm just calling BS on what is really being accomplished and the expectations that are being set that the app is going to "Get your 16mp camera shoot a 63mp photo"
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I appreciate you sharing this and all but...... The V10 camera is capable of producing a photo that is 5312 pixels x 2988 pixels, that has 16 million pixels in it. That is the maximum that the sensor is capable of producing. They are not ever REALLY going to be able to increase it 4x without physically changing the camera sensor. You can modify the dimensions of the image all you want, but the sensor just cant do any more than 16mp
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You are right. This superpixel camera gives a fake better image. I taken the same image in the same condition with the original V10 H961N camera and with the supercamera, analysed both in paintshop after magnifying and the details in supercamera are very dissapointing. Uninstalled without regrets.
My Sony NEX6 camera has a much larger sensor than the V10, but the same 16 Mp resolution...
I am not saying this app will have 4 times more detail, but dividing every pixel in 4 blended with the pixels around, if properly done, will increase sharpness, as I confirmed with my tests.
Having said that, I will not use it, not worth what we loose on features
The results are real, the app is using a well known photoshop technique but in-app.
Olympus is also using it to up their resolution on their e-m5mII camera.
more info:
http://petapixel.com/2015/02/21/a-practical-guide-to-creating-superresolution-photos-with-photoshop/
I recommend having a look at cortexcamera. It uses a similar "trick", but increases the size by only 50%. The result is a stunning 24 MP photo with almost no visible noise and lots of details with no adverse affects from noise reduction. There are a number of limitations though that are basically inherent in the technic. It's best used for rather static scenes and between shots the phone needs a couple of seconds to calculate the resulting image (combined from up to 100 single frames). That being said especially for night or landscape shots I find the results impressive.
Using the Super Resolution Method does not add any more details. Of course it is limited by the sensor. But by doing this, noise is greatly reduced and artifacts like Moire get removed since the program averages the images. This method is done by professional photographers if they want to enhance images when using a mid range shooter.
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kangi26 said:
The point I was trying to make (although maybe not all that well), is that you CAN increase the size of the picture, you can make it 100000x160000 and have a picture at 16GP, but if the sensor is only capable of capturing 16MP, you're going to have a pixilated image. Even with some very fancy software work.
With the actual resolution the V10 is capable of taking photos, they can be printed out to large format or displayed on any large monitor without ANY issues at all. (I have a 12mp DSLR and have printed photos up to 4ft wide with EASE)
I guess I'm just calling BS on what is really being accomplished and the expectations that are being set that the app is going to "Get your 16mp camera shoot a 63mp photo"
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There are certain benefits upon doing this 4x Spatial Reso Increase. The details don't bump up so much but noise gets significantly reduced and edges become much more detailed rather than edgy. Still its an improvement than nothing. Tho the hype should be re calibrated.
Nukhem said:
The results are real, the app is using a well known photoshop technique but in-app.
Olympus is also using it to up their resolution on their e-m5mII camera.
more info:
http://petapixel.com/2015/02/21/a-practical-guide-to-creating-superresolution-photos-with-photoshop/
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Exactly this. I was just about to mention the OM-D E-M5 MII. This camera has a 16MP sensor but has a 40MP high-res shooting mode which combines eight exposures into a single image which is how it can manage to get such a high pixel count out of a sensor that's only natively capable of 16MP. You and your subject would need to be completely still though as any movement can create blurs and jagged lines but the results are real, there is a noticeable difference if you look closely.
But that's if you look closely. Having a high pixel counts doesn't mean much unless you need extremely large prints and even then, have you guys seen the huge billboards from Apple saying that the picture was taken with an iPhone 6 or 6S? That's a 8MP and 12MP sensor respectively. Of course, they probably edited the pictures like there's no tomorrow but then if you were going for such huge prints, you probably wouldn't be printing directly from the in camera RAW or JPEG file.
As a hobbyist photographer, I would say learn the manual settings in the built-in camera app. It's more than enough to squeeze the best possible pictures you can get out of the V10's camera. Then go out and buy yourself a MILC or DSLR (but MILC is probably the smarter choice).
thanks for posting this app
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vip57 said:
Hi guys I just want to share with all of you a new app for all lg v10 phones It take photos with a resolution of 63.5MP on our V10 i saw this thread on nexus 5x and tried on my v10 and it works flawlessly I'm not part of the development of the app . It's on the Play Store here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anforapps.camerasuperpixel
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Don't lile it
Image processing is way better in stock lg cam app
Yeah pixel count does not matter much. 16mp is plenty for most pics. Unless the program managed to use the ois in here to emulate what the Olympus OMD EM5 Mark II does I dont see how it would get a actual useable larger pixel count without the possiblity of introducing digitial artifacts in the image. And even then unless you were shooting non moving subjects in a studio environment you would get that ghosting effect in the pics. Id rather just take regular shots in Raw and post process if I need to work the pics some more. On a side note, the 5 axis OIS on the Olympus is very Nice. I agree with a previous poster about learning what the manual controls do. Then get a nice camera if you are serious about taking better shots.

Clarity/resolution

The Sony Xperia XZ Premium has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I do see pixels
We all do cuz of the pixel pattern...
Screen isnt as crisp as i expected in a 4k display, id say its as good as standard 1080 screen... Not even a good 1080 xD
When virtually emulated to 4k its better, its still on a 1080p level though thats how my eye sees it at least
Im only talking in terms of sharpness, i expected more details on a 4k display.
In terms of colors, brightness, id give it a superb level as it is very natural and realistic! Not like fake amoled crap, but super natural and its like looking out a window, yet i expected a sharper display concidering the 4k display
The screen is really crisp, at least through vr. When I use VR, I can see the pixels but they don't look huge like on 2k phones.
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I do see pixels
We all do cuz of the pixel pattern...
Screen isnt as crisp as i expected in a 4k display, id say its as good as standard 1080 screen... Not even a good 1080 xD
When virtually emulated to 4k its better, its still on a 1080p level though thats how my eye sees it at least
Im only talking in terms of sharpness, i expected more details on a 4k display.
In terms of colors, brightness, id give it a superb level as it is very natural and realistic! Not like fake amoled crap, but super natural and its like looking out a window, yet i expected a sharper display concidering the 4k display
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Have you ever try to change it's default resolution to 4k with 720-821 ppi density via adb command?
If you looking for "crisp", already try it and still say "isn't crisp as I expected", then i can't say anything anymore.
For my eyes, when try to change it's default res to 4k, in terms of crisp and sharp it's the top of the top of crazy display i've ever see. I've never see for real 8k display monitor yet, but I can say panel on this phone is really insane. You can directly compared with any phones in the world right now with that configuration (4k default res), and it's a champ! Yes, there 'unpleasant' bug layout for some apps because they aren't reach yet to develop on 4k native resolution. And the most important, the black recent apps fault lol. So I am not use that config for daily usage.
But if you just curious to see how the real performance of this phone screen, then that config is worth to try.
I've not said about 4k HDR content, there some example files you can download to see 'beyond the limit performance' of this phone. It's super crazy sharp and crisp with insane range of colour!
Instead, in terms of detail, i can't barely say it will fulfil your expectation, because for me it's hard to expect level of detail on small size display.
knightazura said:
Have you ever try to change it's default resolution to 4k with 720-821 ppi density via adb command?
If you looking for "crisp", already try it and still say "isn't crisp as I expected", then i can't say anything anymore.
For my eyes, when try to change it's default res to 4k, in terms of crisp and sharp it's the top of the top of crazy display i've ever see. I've never see for real 8k display monitor yet, but I can say panel on this phone is really insane. You can directly compared with any phones in the world right now with that configuration (4k default res), and it's a champ! Yes, there 'unpleasant' bug layout for some apps because they aren't reach yet to develop on 4k native resolution. And the most important, the black recent apps fault lol. So I am not use that config for daily usage.
But if you just curious to see how the real performance of this phone screen, then that config is worth to try.
I've not said about 4k HDR content, there some example files you can download to see 'beyond the limit performance' of this phone. It's super crazy sharp and crisp with insane range of colour!
Instead, in terms of detail, i can't barely say it will fulfil your expectation, because for me it's hard to expect level of detail on small size display.
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OMG finally someone on the internet sharing a same frustration as me. I wonder if there's any workaround for the black recent apps view glitch when running higher than physical resolution? It almost feels like a internal scaling issue where if I put the phone into landscape I can see partial app snapshot being visible in recent view. This is so far the only issue holding me off from using QHD or even UHD on a daily basis.
knightazura said:
Have you ever try to change it's default resolution to 4k with 720-821 ppi density via adb command?
If you looking for "crisp", already try it and still say "isn't crisp as I expected", then i can't say anything anymore.
For my eyes, when try to change it's default res to 4k, in terms of crisp and sharp it's the top of the top of crazy display i've ever see. I've never see for real 8k display monitor yet, but I can say panel on this phone is really insane. You can directly compared with any phones in the world right now with that configuration (4k default res), and it's a champ! Yes, there 'unpleasant' bug layout for some apps because they aren't reach yet to develop on 4k native resolution. And the most important, the black recent apps fault lol. So I am not use that config for daily usage.
But if you just curious to see how the real performance of this phone screen, then that config is worth to try.
I've not said about 4k HDR content, there some example files you can download to see 'beyond the limit performance' of this phone. It's super crazy sharp and crisp with insane range of colour!
Instead, in terms of detail, i can't barely say it will fulfil your expectation, because for me it's hard to expect level of detail on small size display.
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yes I can see now on 4k mod its insane but I can still see pixels, the phone sharpness look insane! but seeing pixels is kind of a draw back i mean the phone's crispness is on another level with 4k mod but why see pixels?
madshark2009 said:
yes I can see now on 4k mod its insane but I can still see pixels, the phone sharpness look insane! but seeing pixels is kind of a draw back i mean the phone's crispness is on another level with 4k mod but why see pixels?
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Hangon, keep in mind there are high density dots on the screen, these are not pixels. I'm sure these dots are from the manufacturing process of the phone.
I bet you actually can't see the pixels but are mistaking them for these dots scattered on the screen. The display, which is 3840×2160, is bellow the screen which has dots at a dpi (dots per inch) of around 200.
After a while these dots disappear
busawahk said:
Hangon, keep in mind there are high density dots on the screen, these are not pixels. I'm sure these dots are from the manufacturing process of the phone.
I bet you actually can't see the pixels but are mistaking them for these dots scattered on the screen. The display, which is 3840×2160, is bellow the screen which has dots at a dpi (dots per inch) of around 200.
After a while these dots disappear
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why would there be scattered dots on the screen in the manufacturing process?
and how do you know this?

20:9 ratio - what you think about that?

Looks like the OnePlus 7T will be a remote control, with 20:9 ratio
I hate curved screens but anything bigger than 19:9 is just disgusting. What you think about that?
Weirdly it's about the same as my gaming monitor.
Acer z35 35 inch 200Hz, ultra wide 21:9 I think it is.
One of the things I've noticed is YouTube doesn't always play full screen with certain content without stretching.
But apps and game Devs can accommodate for this, so I'd say it'll be a non issue.
I'm just glad they haven't gone nuts and went for 4K on the display, it's madness on a 6" screen.
I think the 7T will have a great screen.
PS: I hate curved too more expensive and holding it can cause accidental presses, cases look odd too.
Linuxkek said:
Looks like the OnePlus 7T will be a remote control, with 20:9 ratio
I hate curved screens but anything bigger than 19:9 is just disgusting. What you think about that?
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I don't like remote control type screens either,. but I'd take this over a curved.7pro any day.
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I dont like this format. For me the 7T is a no go. OP dont see my money.
Depends on what you use your phone the most. I read a lot on it(all kinds of forums), IG and FB, etc., and all this vertical-type scrolling is great on a tall display. Youtube videos, on the other hand, don't really utilize the extra-wide aspect ratio(when held horizontally), even with not-yet-common 18:9 videos, not to mention 16:9. The upside to this maybe is that the notch stays in the dark letterboxing on either side.
Did you try 20:9? I mean the Xperia with 21:9 I try was just disgusting
I bought my 7T a couple of days back at OnePlus' London pop up event and I can verify the new 20:9 ratio is noticeably longer and narrower than phone screens I've used before. I measured its screen width to be 68mm across, whereas my Pixel 3XL is 70mm wide. This doesn't sound like much of a difference but It's definitely something I notice compared to the 16:9, 18:9 and 19:9 phones I've owned in the last few years (Pixel 1XL, 2XL and 3XL, OnePlus 3 & 6 and Nexus 6 and 6P).
Don't get me wrong - the 7T is not in the same territory as the 21:9 movie theatre screen of the Sony Xperia 1 which is almost like a TV remote.
So is the 7T screen too long and narrow? No, but I think at 20:9 it's probably as wide as wide-screen phones should ever get.
Friend send it back because of 20:9 but I try it in real life, it's just disgusting

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