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Hey People, the more I use this excellent phone the more I wonder can it really replace all of my gadgets on a day to day basis?
I wrote a piece on my blog about this in detail, but what do you think?
Gadgets I use the most on a day to day basis are:
Laptop - Internet and E-mail
Camera
Sat Nav
Phone
PMP - Music and Video's
My verdict was 99% a yes, and close to 100%.
Any thoughts!
It can do VOIP/SIP over HSDPA extremely well with a little help from SipDroid which I just set-up. Yay, for the Desire. ^_^ And for cheap calls!!
As for the laptop replacement it's quite adequate for my morning commute to work but when I need to do something fiddly like setup my PBX I prefer to tether my laptop.
As for replacing everything else, yeah pretty much, although whether it can replace one's girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other is a matter for debate.
LOL since when has ones, Girlfriend/Boyfriend etc, been a gadget? (why do I feel like that will spawn innuendo?)
I bought because if this!
Finally AIO device
Internet and E-mail
Camera(before used camera)
Sat Nav
Phone
Music and Video's(before used MP4)
It could, if the battery technology was at a point where the phone could last a decent amount of time when playing videos, music, making calls and surfing. If you do everything on your phone it zaps the battery. That's why I'm keeping my cowon s9 for video/music use.
RXP said:
It could, if the battery technology was at a point where the phone could last a decent amount of time when playing videos, music, making calls and surfing. If you do everything on your phone it zaps the battery. That's why I'm keeping my cowon s9 for video/music use.
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That's a valid point. I spend a lot of time on the road in my car, so a car charger helps with that!
yes i think that HTC DESIRE is the AIO device anyone needs. but the concern and main problem is here too....if i use all the features all day i only get up to the evening max...then charger is on
So would you compromise the look to interoperate a bigger battery? That's the question here?
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So would you compromise the look to interoperate a bigger battery? That's the question here?
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I think I don't need extra battery, it can last for one day if I use all it's features
I couldn't compromise on the shape, I'm hoping that a 2000mah + extended battery that is the same size will be released. I've actually been using my laptop to charge my desire on the go, lol.
i must say that its replaced a my ipod touch and n97 (email client on n97 was poor, video playback wasn't great and music player could have been better and sat nav was far too buggy) but i have to say i've been really taken with it, picks up emails faster than my outlook does for gmail, screen is fantastic, battery life is roughly the same as my itouch after a day's usage and since google maps navigation has come along its become even better! hopefully a bigger battery will be released soon as mentioned above
I have been a big PC user for most of my life and found I spent many hours on it each day catching up with whatever is happening online, etc.
Since getting this phone, I've actually found I spend half the time on the computer as I used to. I can happily be elsewhere and be able to catch up on forums through my phone with no discomfort
Technology is meant to make life easier and more efficient. The desire has certainly done that for me.
Battery , for me, is the biggest issue.
If we can get a better battery, it would be superb.
I use the phone a lot. (I haven't made a single call with it yet either as my number has still to transfer over).
But, I don't manage to last the whole day without needing a charge early evening.
I think once the novelty of the phone has worn off it will be better, but even then, it's not as if I've been using it so heavily.
Small amount of Satnav to test it out.
Fair amount of internet during the day (switching between mobile data and wireless depending on proximity of wifi network).
Screen more often than not turned almost all the way down, unless light doesn't permit.
I never get through a full day without a charge...
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Are there any apps which export the phone's current settings, so that the set-up can be analysed by others (like the nice people on here) in order to work out a more power efficient set up?
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Battery , for me, is the biggest issue.
If we can get a better battery, it would be superb.
I use the phone a lot. (I haven't made a single call with it yet either as my number has still to transfer over).
But, I don't manage to last the whole day without needing a charge early evening.
I think once the novelty of the phone has worn off it will be better, but even then, it's not as if I've been using it so heavily.
Small amount of Satnav to test it out.
Fair amount of internet during the day (switching between mobile data and wireless depending on proximity of wifi network).
Screen more often than not turned almost all the way down, unless light doesn't permit.
I never get through a full day without a charge...
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Are there any apps which export the phone's current settings, so that the set-up can be analysed by others (like the nice people on here) in order to work out a more power efficient set up?
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You will see looking around these forums there is a lot of discussion an battery life! Personally I find that there are certain Apps that seem to drain my battery very quickly. One culprit for some reason seemed to be the 'Sky News' app? I dont have a list of apps that cause it but like I said read a few of the battery threads and it will give you some idea. The Sat Nav is a huge drain on the battery, and even when connected to my current car charger it drains quicker than it charges. I know why, its because my car charger is only kicking out .5a unlike the required 1a that the device needs (needless to say a better car charger is on its way).
But normally I can get a day out of it no problem. And If I use the Sat Nav its gonna be plugged in to a charger anyway...
I am happier with my Desire than than any other gadget I'be owned. The only problem is memory for apps. I'v havent got that many but I'm still short on space. what's the point in having a superphone if you can't show it off? I have 8 gig memory card but can't use any that space for apps! Madness!
Apps are limited un production by this and won't be a real co.tender to the iPhone appstore until it's solved.
If anyone know how to get apps on to SD on the desire please let me know. Would make this thing pretty perfect.
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Desire can replace a lot of gadgets but it's definitely not a replacement for a laptop or a camera.
IMHO, no. I've used it for a few weeks now, and at one point considered replacing my current phone with it but...
1. Appalling battery life, maybe a working day of usage, and if I'm having to put it on charge in the evening, I'm not using it.
2. Lack of stability - applications crash out at random, shutdowns frequently hang. If I have to take the battery out to reset it, a real pain if I'm out walking, it's not ready for frontline use. While I've been typing this, the browser has completely locked up.
3. Flash memory shortage; when it's rooted, or the OS supports install-to-card, this won't be a problem, but I'm not prepared to spend a lot of time managing memory. If I need to spend a lot of time maintaining the device, I might as well use WM.
4. Odd Calendar syncing - I've mentioned it elsewhere, but I want control of how my calendars are synced to the device; Android doesn't give me that. If I want to look back a few months and check the last time I took a leave day, it may not have synced. Shabby.
5. GPS - I imagine Copilot works well on this, but a few hours testing Google Maps Navigation at the weekend really brought out serious flaws, particularly when passing through areas with no cellular data coverage. A SatNav system has to sit in the dashboard mount and just work reliably for the whole trip or it's worthless, GMN didn't.
It's a nice device to play with, and there are some good, useful applications, but I need a reliable phone, and this isn't it. Hopefully the Evo will be.
I realize this is a worse case scenario, but i used my phone as navigation for the first time today and after maybe 20 minutes of having it on my dash, charging, listeing to bluetooth music while navigating it quit charging and the red notification light started blinking. I had power saver on with the screen at its lowest Automatic Brightness set. I know this is a stress test for it, but lots of other phones I've had didnt have a problem like this. I dont use it as navigation too often, but it cant not charge if i do use it that way.
Anyone elses do this too?
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I realize this is a worse case scenario, but i used my phone as navigation for the first time today and after maybe 20 minutes of having it on my dash, charging, listeing to bluetooth music while navigating it quit charging and the red notification light started blinking. I had power saver on with the screen at its lowest Automatic Brightness set. I know this is a stress test for it, but lots of other phones I've had didnt have a problem like this. I dont use it as navigation too often, but it cant not charge if i do use it that way.
Anyone elses do this too?
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Mine starts to get pretty hot with the basics....browsing..youtube...charging while not using. It's not happening all the time but it gets frustrating. This is my second m8 ( I returned my first for heat issues) so it's happened on both non-rooted m8s.
I went back to the tmobile i bought it from, they hooked it up to a laptop and ran a few tests on it and declared it fine. They said to call corporate tmobile tomorrow (since they took the holiday off today) and tell them whats going on and they can put it in my notes to have the store replace my phone tomorrow.
Anyone else's phone do this? I ask because corporate gave the store the OK to exchange my phone, and if this is a problem with all M8's, theres no point to exchange it.
I am debating on getting a different phone all together. I flashed a few Roms.... Still having the heat issue.
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So I was able to trade my phone for a new one at the store,...I'm now past the 14 day trial, so I hope this one is OK.
Are you guys sure it gets that hot? This is the same thing with the M7 and people were saying the same thing. It's thermal conductivity which you guys are feeling. Keep in mind just because your other phones don't feel as hot doesn't mean it's not the same temperature. Here's a video about what happens and how people confuse themselves. The M7 and M8 are different and the M8 should conduct more heat due to it being more metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqDbMEdLiCs
Although yes, it's hot to the touch, I'm talking about the battery getting so hot it quits charging , the Orange led blinks, and the battery starts going backwards even though it's plugged in to the car charger.
That's why I was making sure if it isn't merely it feels hot, and not actually being hot.
Are you using a 1.5 amp or something higher? I notice when I use large amp charger it'll get hotter than usual, but it does charge quicker.
It's a Verizon generic car charger, 1 amp. I'll be using the replacement phone tomorrow afternoon for navigation, I'll report back if it's any better with it.
I Just found a 2.4 amp Rocmetfish charger that gets good write ups at best buy. Wonder if that would help.....2.4a is a lot more than 1a.
Anyone replace their battery yet? I bought my note 10 refurbed and never felt it had the power it should. Will last 3ish hours with light gaming and web surf. I've seen some replacements on amazon, just wanted to get some input.
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Anyone replace their battery yet? I bought my note 10 refurbed and never felt it had the power it should. Will last 3ish hours with light gaming and web surf. I've seen some replacements on amazon, just wanted to get some input.
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I bought one from zwxj on Amazon a couple of weeks ago. 20 minute install. Very easy. There a a few youtube videos you can search for that show the entire process.
I'm getting about 8 hours or more of screen on time now.
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I bought one from new power 99, was getting 10% loss for every hour for the first few months but then it started to go alot faster. They have a 1 year garantee on there batteries so i just wrote them 2 days ago and explained what was happening and they sent me a replacement the day they got my email. It was a little more expensive but definitely worth it. They also told me to just keep the first battery. So i would definitely recommend them . They didn't argue or tell me I'm doing something wrong when I sent the email , they just shipped a new battery out. It comes with all the tools to take tablet apart and was very easy to do.
So my battery is fine except when playing games. It's drops insanely fast. I have a refurbished model and am thinking a new battery should do it. Anyone have that issue and a new battery take care of it?
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My battery life is getting much worse, and the tablet is now 2 years old. Looks like time for a new battery here too...
Don't know if I need one yet. I know I leave it on the charger quite often and it seems to drain much faster under load than my refurbished nexus 7 2013, but standby time is much, much longer than my nexus 7. Disassembly also seems like a pain. I don't like that you have to pry on the screen
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Don't know if I need one yet. I know I leave it on the charger quite often and it seems to drain much faster under load than my refurbished nexus 7 2013, but standby time is much, much longer than my nexus 7. Disassembly also seems like a pain. I don't like that you have to pry on the screen
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Like the rest of you, I'm experiencing severe, and rapid drain from my battery. I just bought a brand new OEM battery for my tablet. Hasn't come yet, and I will let you know about any difficulties. YouTube videos make it look like a fairly easy job, and it doesn't look like there's much pressure on the screen while you do it. By the way, just for giggles I decided to check how difficult it would be to access the battery. Take it from me-DO NOT TRY TO PRY THE SCREEN LOOSE! You might lose the power and volume switch caps. Only remove the screen if you need to replace it.
Rather, pull the S Pen from it's socket, and gently pry the back cover loose. From there, follow the directions on YouTube carefully. When you are done, gently reseat the rear cover, and make sure that it's properly seated. You'd never believe that piece of chrome coloured plastic was so important. Sheer Genius!
Well, hope that helps.
Rob
Changed my battery about a week ago. Wasn't very hard and the results have been amazing. So happy.
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Hey which battery did you end up buying and from where? If you don't mind my asking
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Changed my battery about a week ago. Wasn't very hard and the results have been amazing. So happy.
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Get the one used in the most wellknown tutorial vid, from Newpower99. I wonder whether they ship overseas.
Any way to check to see how much power or life your battery has left? Just bought a used one and seems normal.
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Hey which battery did you end up buying and from where? If you don't mind my asking
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i got it from zwxj on Amazon. it was cheap. it was actually very easy to install. there was a small issue though. the cord that connects the battery is a little to long. and the plastic piece at the top isnt exactly correct. i was able to get it in though with minimal effort. they battery lasts forever. the only issue i have and it is a pita is it will randomly shut off when playing a game. doesnt happen all the time and there is no rhyme or reason to when it happens. i need to plug it into the wall and then it will restart with the same battery it shut off from. i could read things all day down to zero and it would never happen. wither way for the 15 bucks or so i spent on the battery it makes the tablet usable again and i love it.
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i got it from zwxj on Amazon. it was cheap. it was actually very easy to install. there was a small issue though. the cord that connects the battery is a little to long. and the plastic piece at the top isnt exactly correct. i was able to get it in though with minimal effort. they battery lasts forever. the only issue i have and it is a pita is it will randomly shut off when playing a game. doesnt happen all the time and there is no rhyme or reason to when it happens. i need to plug it into the wall and then it will restart with the same battery it shut off from. i could read things all day down to zero and it would never happen. wither way for the 15 bucks or so i spent on the battery it makes the tablet usable again and i love it.
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I've bought one from AliExpress with the same issue in the little plastic piece on top so I guess it's from the same manufacturer. Mine constantly turns off. Even updating apps. It seems to be an issue with these batteries.
Also, I feel like it doesn't show the correct percentage. Is there something I should do after replacing the battery for it to show the correct percentage?
One last question and this goes to everyone. Using Ampere, could you please check and tell me whats the average drain in mA?
Thanks!
I use Battery Monitor Widget, included in the 3C Android Toolkit, and samplin battery data in sync with Android to save power. So Standby values should be too high to be representative, 0,05 to 0,2A. Idling with screen on, around 0,6A. Max Load should be over 2A or ten watts. These values should be calculated from the battery voltage instead of the Usb voltage. Attached to a power supply, the Note never seems to drain the battery, so there must be a ten watt power limit, it will simply no longer charge under full load.
Using improper plugs doesn't sound like a good idea, the contacts could get so hot, that the plastic of the plug und socket or the back cover could melt and the contacts could de-solder themselves from the main pcb.
Just ordered a OEM Samsung battery today. Will post when I getvand get it installed. Battery is totally flat on my device.
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i got it from zwxj on Amazon. it was cheap. it was actually very easy to install. there was a small issue though. the cord that connects the battery is a little to long. and the plastic piece at the top isnt exactly correct. i was able to get it in though with minimal effort. they battery lasts forever. the only issue i have and it is a pita is it will randomly shut off when playing a game. doesnt happen all the time and there is no rhyme or reason to when it happens. i need to plug it into the wall and then it will restart with the same battery it shut off from. i could read things all day down to zero and it would never happen. wither way for the 15 bucks or so i spent on the battery it makes the tablet usable again and i love it.
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I had the exact same thing happening with mine after replacing the battery. Check your CPU clocking. If you're on a CM ROM it's probably overclocked & set to 1900MHz. If you set the governor to 1300MHz (which is the factory clocking speed, I think) it should quit shutting down like that. That's what I did and I haven't had it happen even once since. I think the CPU is just overclocked a bit much for the aftermarket battery to handle. Your tablet will run a bit cooler this way too.
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I had the exact same thing happening with mine after replacing the battery. Check your CPU clocking. If you're on a CM ROM it's probably overclocked & set to 1900MHz. If you set the governor to 1300MHz (which is the factory clocking speed, I think) it should quit shutting down like that. That's what I did and I haven't had it happen even once since. I think the CPU is just overclocked a bit much for the aftermarket battery to handle. Your tablet will run a bit cooler this way too.
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That's awesome. Trying it now. Thanks
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I had the exact same thing happening with mine after replacing the battery. Check your CPU clocking. If you're on a CM ROM it's probably overclocked & set to 1900MHz. If you set the governor to 1300MHz (which is the factory clocking speed, I think) it should quit shutting down like that. That's what I did and I haven't had it happen even once since. I think the CPU is just overclocked a bit much for the aftermarket battery to handle. Your tablet will run a bit cooler this way too.
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I just replaced my battery as the tablet had become unusable. I found the same issue. Only happened once, I also found that I could only charge the device while off, I reseated the charging flex which seemed to correct the unable to charge while on. Now that I think about it, I was on a TW 4.4 rom rooted when it happened, I'll report back with findings.
I contacted Samsung support and they referred me to a distributor of official OEM Samsung parts. Ordered a battery last week. Unfortunately, delivery is in the 2 to 3 week timeframe, as it's coming from overseas. I will let you all know how replacement of it goes.
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I contacted Samsung support and they referred me to a distributor of official OEM Samsung parts. Ordered a battery last week. Unfortunately, delivery is in the 2 to 3 week timeframe, as it's coming from overseas. I will let you all know how replacement of it goes.
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If you want or need directions for replacing the battery, when I did mine about a month ago I posted a step by step guide for what to do along with pictures (just ignore the part about removing the charging port if your only doing the battery). Here's a link to it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66124495&postcount=13
This one's huge for me and might warrant a return. My 3 XL when I plug into my Fiesta and Android Auto comes on switches from Charging to Charging Slowly, and I maintain or lose charge over the course of my trip. My 2 XL and first-gen could gain charge no problem. Wasn't Rapid, but was plenty fast.
Anyone else seeing this? This is a huge problem for me. I rely on my car to top off my phone during drives and if this can't happen anymore it kills AA for me.
Edit: There's a thread on Google's own Android Auto forums regarding this issue (apparently for people who actually have USB-C in their vehicles, the problem is ironically worse), and best yet, it has an actual Google engineer interacting and collecting data. Please report your experience here with full details, make/model of car, phone, OS and Play Services versions, etc: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-auto/1NmG3ojHX_k;context-place=mydiscussions
Also, user bigdave79 helpfully reported here that if you plug in your phone, let Android Auto open, and without unplugging go into USB Preferences and toggle from USB Controlled by "This Device" to "Connected Device" it will switch itself right back, but charging speed will return to expectations. While still not a fix, this helps further suggest this is truly a software bug and not a hardware or software feature/decision.
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This one's huge for me and might warrant a return. My 3 XL when I plug into my Fiesta and Android Auto comes on switches from Charging to Charging Slowly, and I maintain or lose charge over the course of my trip. My 2 XL and first-gen could gain charge no problem. Wasn't Rapid, but was plenty fast.
Anyone else seeing this? This is a huge problem for me. I rely on my car to top off my phone during drives and if this can't happen anymore it kills AA for me.
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If I'm not mistaken it probably depends on your car. My 2018 Civic can't fast charge because Android Auto run through one specific USB spot. If I used a fast charge car adapter it would but then lose AA
I'm well aware. To reiterate, BOTH previous Pixels had NO trouble with my car. This is specific to the 3 XL.
I'm not having this issue in my car. Using the same USB C car charger I used on my 2XL.
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I'm well aware. To reiterate, BOTH previous Pixels had NO trouble with my car. This is specific to the 3 XL.
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I recently purchased a quick charge charger for my car. It worked great with a Note 9, S8+, and a Razer phone. My Pixel 3 XL however, charges slowly. It is kind of annoying.
I think you're all missing the Android Auto part of this. Not a car charger. The USB port built into the car to allow it to connect to Android Auto.
glad i am not the only one who is having this issue.... it charged my s8+ fast but it shows slow charging with pixel 3 xl =\
Well, this is annoying. Same thing on my 3 XL, "Slowing Charging".
Plugged the 2 XL back in- charging normally. Ford Explorer.
Let's hope it is some stupid $hit related to this-
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-fast-charging-android-pie-fix/
The time frame and Oct release seem to match the build date in the 3 XL I have, so maybe the build of PIE is not synced to the OTA release and the next OTA will fix it? Wishful thinking I suppose..
Google support was worse than useless on this, asking questions in circles and misunderstanding me. That said, thanks to someone on Reddit and my own thinking, I tried enabling USB Debugging. After a reboot of the phone it resolved the issue. AA starts up faster, as well.
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Google support was worse than useless on this, asking questions in circles and misunderstanding me. That said, thanks to someone on Reddit and my own thinking, I tried enabling USB Debugging. After a reboot of the phone it resolved the issue. AA starts up faster, as well.
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Thank you for posting, never would have thought about that.
So the problem actually returned, but was resolved again with another reboot. This is very odd. Combined with the severe memory leaks, I have to reboot this phone more than I'm used to.
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So the problem actually returned, but was resolved again with another reboot. This is very odd. Combined with the severe memory leaks, I have to reboot this phone more than I'm used to.
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How do you tell what it is charging at now? I can see it on the main screen if the screen is powered off (ambient) and Android Auto isn't running.
The battery dialog screen used to say, maybe I'm in the wrong spot?
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How do you tell what it is charging at now? I can see it on the main screen if the screen is powered off (ambient) and Android Auto isn't running.
The battery dialog screen used to say, maybe I'm in the wrong spot?
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Turn the screen off and back on to look at the ambient screen text at the bottom.
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Turn the screen off and back on to look at the ambient screen text at the bottom.
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So all you did was enable USB Debugging through the developer options and your pixel 3 now charges at a similar speed as the Pixel 2 when connected in the car using Android Auto?
I was so hopeful and tried it out this morning but no luck at all. I even rebooted the phone 3 times and still receiving the "Slowly charging" dialog and the phone gained 2% in an hour.
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So all you did was enable USB Debugging through the developer options and your pixel 3 now charges at a similar speed as the Pixel 2 when connected in the car using Android Auto?
I was so hopeful and tried it out this morning but no luck at all. I even rebooted the phone 3 times and still receiving the "Slowly charging" dialog and the phone gained 2% in an hour.
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Correct. Could be a 3 versus 3 XL thing, I don't know. But yes, enabled that function, restarted, and it immediately stayed on Charging. It later returns to the bad behavior, so I basically have to restart my phone every time I enter the car.
I'm seeing the same thing. I have had developer options enabled since first day and have never seen it show rapid charging. Even with the original charger I am seeing charging slow. Since the Pixel 3 is on Sept build it is most likely the same issue as the pixel. Hopefully this will be fixed in the next update.
I too am experiencing issues with AA and a Pixel 3 XL.
1) 2014 Cadillac CTS V-Sport Premium with Cue. The phone connects and AA works just fine; however the phone shows "charging slowly".
2) 2000 Dodge Dakota R/T with a Pioneer AVH-2300NEX; latest firmware version 8.35. The phone will not establish a connection to the head unit via USB, and battery indicator flashes between charging and not charging.
I still have my Pixel 2 XL, which performs flawlessly in the CTS. Same cable, same port. The P2 XL reports "charging", and gains a charge when AA is in use.
In the Dakota, the P2 XL also performs flawlessly since the 8.35 firmware update. Again, same cable, same port. Just like the in the CTS, the P2 XL reports "charging" and gains a charge while AA is in use.
It is to be noted that developer mode is enabled on both phones, and USB debugging is "on" (both phones). I have tried the whole restart thing; to no avail.
I've initiated a return process. Since Google's unable to offer any indication of this problem being known to them or a solution being planned, I can't go forward like this. I like this phone quite a bit, but its experience isn't so dramatically better from my 2 XL as to justify putting up with a problem with no expected solution. I'll keep my eye on updates and see if any indicate this issue has been seen and fixed and maybe consider a repurchase then. Otherwise I'll hold out for the 4.
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I've initiated a return process. Since Google's unable to offer any indication of this problem being known to them or a solution being planned, I can't go forward like this. I like this phone quite a bit, but its experience isn't so dramatically better from my 2 XL as to justify putting up with a problem with no expected solution. I'll keep my eye on updates and see if any indicate this issue has been seen and fixed and maybe consider a repurchase then. Otherwise I'll hold out for the 4.
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Mine went to FedEx today. Sadly, I love the phone but already got an RA for it prior to the return window expiring. I am not confident that Google will fix the issue in a timely manner; or even acknowledge there is one. For $1000, I am not willing to go backwards in functionality. If I see proof the issue is resolved, then like you; I may decide to repurchase. If not, the P2 XL still has another year of warranty and 2 years of support.
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For $1000, I am not willing to go backwards in functionality. If I see proof the issue is resolved, then like you; I may decide to repurchase. If not, the P2 XL still has another year of warrany and 2 years of support.
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Exactly that. I spent a lot of money on a phone to replace a very good phone. There should be no regressions for that price.
Oh well, my 2 XL was fantastic, truly. I'll probably need a few days to readjust to the screen and a month or two to wait for most of the new features to filter back to it, and I'll be fine until next year.
Hi,
I have a question about whether wireless phone charging affects spen. From about March to November, it happened to me twice that the phone said spen disconnected. After inserting it a few times, it connected again and worked. It's been happening every day for the past month, and for the past week it's been constant and won't connect. I read something about magnets in the discussions, but the phone did not come into contact with anything like that. The only thing I can think of is that for about the last year, the phone has only been charged wirelessly, by leaving it on the charger overnight. The charger is not original Samsung. Is it possible that the spen broke due to the charger? I got a new one today, it works perfectly again and I would hate to destroy it again. What is your opinion?
Please excuse my English, I'm using a translator
Interesting. Spen's seldom fail unless physically damaged. Sometimes they can be hard to get to initialize especially if not used for weeks. Eventually they will initialize though, the first indication is they show as charging. The old spen may still be good... just being stubborn.
Best to use Samsung chargers. The wireless charger shouldn't effect the spen if not actively charging. The Spen has it's own charging coil built into the phone. However not sure if the spen is shielded from outside RF. Unless the external wireless charger gives the spen a substantial over voltage if it can even charge it, it wouldn't harm it. The spen uses a super capacitor for it's battery and can't be overcharged. Over voltage may kill it. This is a question for Samsung engineers... good luck with that.
Spen's and magnets don't get along but a permanent magnet exposure shouldn't cause any permanent damage.
blackhawk said:
Interesting. Spen's seldom fail unless physically damaged. Sometimes they can be hard to get to initialize especially....
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thanks for the reply
it's just my guess, because otherwise the spen was always fine and I don't know what else the phone would come into contact with.
Girlfriend still has my old Note9 and spen is still no problem and she basically doesn't even use it.
He is not physically damaged in any way. Over time, it just started to get worse.
The last two weeks or so, he was almost unable to connect. Rather, he was still disconnected. When I managed to connect it after a long trial, in the settings it showed charging from approx. 60% to 100% and for a very long time. Sometimes it even managed to charge, if it hadn't lost the connection by then.
When it was working, the battery dropped from 100 to 80 immediately after pulling it out, and then it wouldn't connect again after inserting it.
At least I'm glad it was spen and not something inside the phone
jampce said:
thanks for the reply
it's just my guess, because otherwise the spen was always fine and I don't know what else the phone would come into contact with.
Girlfriend still has my old Note9 and spen is still no problem and she basically doesn't even use it.
He is not physically damaged in any way. Over time, it just started to get worse.
The last two weeks or so, he was almost unable to connect. Rather, he was still disconnected. When I managed to connect it after a long trial, in the settings it showed charging from approx. 60% to 100% and for a very long time. Sometimes it even managed to charge, if it hadn't lost the connection by then.
When it was working, the battery dropped from 100 to 80 immediately after pulling it out, and then it wouldn't connect again after inserting it.
At least I'm glad it was spen and not something inside the phone
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You're welcome.
Could be the spen failed electronically which is very rare unless damaged. Guess if the new one fails you'll have the probable cause.
Wired charging puts less strain on the battery and is faster... so you may want to consider using that instead. The C port is generally very robust and is good for many thousands of use cycles. In the N10+ it's fairly easy to replace and is an inexpensive part. So don't sweat it... enjoy your N10+, it's Samsung's best phone to date!
Just a joy to use and very capable.