With P4/XL, like iPhones, when configured to show sensitive data when unlocked, I can present my face and see all the waiting notifications without having to touch the phone. It's a nice feature.
With fingerprint unlock, if similarly configured to only show sensitive when unlocked, I have to first unlock the phone, pull down the shade, then see the notifications.
Is there anyway to make the process more efficient, with fewer touch points/movements?
Thanks.
I don't think so. It's effectively doing the same thing - unlocking the phone first, although that's interesting about showing the notifications immediately. The only contact-less unlock is to use Smart Lock where you can have it configured to always be unlocked when, for example, on your home WiFi, or when it's connected to your smartwatch or earbuds. Every four hours it'll still require unlocked manually and sometimes it's been a little flaky other times, but that might be the only similar option, but you'd still have to pull down the notification shade.
Maybe someone with more knowledge regarding this exact subject can speak to this.
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I don't think so. It's effectively doing the same thing - unlocking the phone first, although that's interesting about showing the notifications immediately.
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Thanks for your reply. Smart Lock is an option, but not ideal for me. It's also annoying that SL causes my lock message "If found ,calll..." to switch between "Kept unlock by..." every two seconds or so.
I'm wondering if I can use an automation tool (e.g., Automate, Automagic, Tasker, MacroDroid, etc.) to pull down the shade on an unlock action. I'll look into it and report back.
Just did it with MacroDroid. I'm sure I could have done the same with Automate, Automagic, Tasker, etc. Now, when I unlock, the shade is down and I can clear the notifications without having to manually pull down the shade.
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i was wondering if i could get sum people to tell me about ehir experiences with their locking/unlocking programs...such as, which ones youve used with success...im interested in knowing which ones use the least about of battery power, least amount of memory/ram...so on and so forth...any input wiould be greatly appreciated
specifically programs being used with the touch pro 2
I'm personally not a big fan of screen lock programs. I just think that for something as simple as locking the screen, the end-user shouldn't have to give up anything in terms of resources/battery life.
That's why I suggest sticking with the default WinMo lock.
I suggest either SmartLock or LockDevice to auto lock your device. Neither uses up any resources.
I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've used both of those apps and it works fine for me. I have the exact same concern that you have. I don't want the device to wake because someone called and hung up after a second, thus making the screen susceptible to taps.
In both apps, you can customize how you want the lock mechanism to kick in. You can set it to lock when you screen goes off. My personal preference is to set it to lock on suspend.
I'm not really sure what you mean. If your device is locked (with the WinMo default lock), you won't be able to do anything (including making calls) without unlocking it first either via tap & slide (WinMo 6.5) or left soft key & unlock button (WinMo 6.1).
I would really like to use the app, but there is a dialer conflict when getting incoming calls for boths apps. For example during an incoming call, I initially get HTC dialer. During the middle of the call, I get the original WM dialer. Do you have any suggestions to avoid this problem?
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pistou said:
I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've used both of those apps and it works fine for me. I have the exact same concern that you have. I don't want the device to wake because someone called and hung up after a second, thus making the screen susceptible to taps.
In both apps, you can customize how you want the lock mechanism to kick in. You can set it to lock when you screen goes off. My personal preference is to set it to lock on suspend.
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Thanks: I've loaded lockDevice and so far so good
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I'm not really sure what you mean. If your device is locked (with the WinMo default lock), you won't be able to do anything (including making calls) without unlocking it first either via tap & slide (WinMo 6.5) or left soft key & unlock button (WinMo 6.1).
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What I meant was that my understanding of the default WinMo lock is that it only locks after a specific period of in activity (which I don't want to happen) rather than after a suspend (which is what I do want).
Hi All!
I found a few threads on the Internet in different forums with no answer so I thought I'll ask the pros:
When I'm using Pin or Password to unlock the phone, I get the standard lockscreen display before I can unlock the phone, so it goes:
On/Off Button -> Lock Screen -> Pin / Password
The problem is when I'm using an unlock pattern, the lock screen gets skipped, so it goes:
On/Off Button -> Unlock Pattern
This is very annoying since I like to use the lockscreens mute function without having to unlock the phone. Apparently there is no way of changing this with settings so I was wondering if anyone know of a patch or another way to have the lockscreen AND the unlock pattern?
I'm using the Oxygen 2.0 RC6 Gingerbread Rom on my Desire but this seems to be a generel "issue" with stock Android Roms (Hero Roms and Froyo Roms is the same) - Sense based Roms behave different.
Thx for any hint!
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I am having a similar issue and my searching only found this thread.
While at work (2/3rds of my waking life) I use my phone at work to see where my next appointment is. It's very convenient to just glance down and see what meeting I have next by only hitting the power button. From what I have seen there are a lot of apps which will add this functionality to the lock screen.
The problem is when I add a passcode (required by work) it replaces the unlock screen with the passcode screen. I have seen that other Android phones do not do this, but the Captivate does. I've tried four different roms and all have this same behavior.
Is it possible to have the unlock screen come up, and when the phone is unlocked to prompt the passcode? I can't find a setting anywhere and the third party apps like Flylock have a jarring user experience in this configuration.
Thanks
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Mabus the Mad said:
Is it possible to have the unlock screen come up, and when the phone is unlocked to prompt the passcode? I can't find a setting anywhere and the third party apps like Flylock have a jarring user experience in this configuration.
Thanks
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The purpose of the pattern lock is to prevent unauthorized use of the phone. So it doesn't make sense if you put the lock screen over the pattern lock(or combined them) as you, or any stranger, will be able to issue commands(mute, read messages, weather, music etc. there are lots of widgets running on the lock screen) to the phone BEFORE unlocking it.
The security of the pattern lock will be totally compromised.
So the only choice is pattern lock over lock screen. I don't see how this makes anything easier. And I won't go into how it will create huge security loopholes/bypass the pattern lock completely if widgets or anything is allow to run on/over the lockscreen.
Perhaps I am using the wrong terminology, I should be referring to it as the "Unlock Screen" (Settings -> Display -> Unlock Screen). From this screen it appears that you can:
1) View the time
2) Unlock the phone
3) Mute the phone
4) See the notification bar (Vibrate, Battery, Signal, Pending notifications, etc)
I would actually like to add:
5) Next calendar appointment with location
6) Weather
This is all actions / information I want available at a glance and without unlocking the phone. Once I attempt to unlock I would like to be presented with the pattern / pin security. In this way all my private information remains hidden, but the information I use the most often while walking / driving is readily available.
I am also good with anyone else being able to pick up my phone and perform the actions I listed on the unlock screen. I believe this information is available from the unlock screen on the Windows Phone and iPhone (assuming it's your only notification, their notification system sucks).
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This is all actions / information I want available at a glance and without unlocking the phone. Once I attempt to unlock I would like to be presented with the pattern / pin security. In this way all my private information remains hidden, but the information I use the most often while walking / driving is readily available.
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That PERMISSION to allow you do issue commands to your phone will compromise the security of the pattern/pin lock screen. You need to understand the core concept of the pattern lock screen is to be secure - no unauthorized use of the phone, whether it's as small as viewing notifications to fullon running widgets/apps.
Plus your definition of being secure doesn't equate to everyone's definition of security. It fine for you to display messages on the securely locked phone but it's definitely not for some of my friends who have really sensitive data on their phone.
I was not trying to advocate this behavior to everyone, just wondering if it was possible to set this up myself. One of the things I like about this phone is that everyone can customize it to fit their own tastes.
Actually, I think I found my solution. Flashed to CM7 last night. The pattern screen still had the behavior as the 2.2 roms but the passcode had the behavior I was looking for.
Well the thing is: When using PIN or Password to unlock, you can actually use the lockscreen to mute etc. before unlocking. And using the original HTC Rom, this is possible using unlock pattern, too. Everyone will have to decide for themself if he cosiders this function a thread to security, its just really annoying that I have to decide between unlock pattern and unlock screen even tho it should not be a problem technicaly. Cyanogen guys apparently have this on their list, but with minor priority. I'm really close to moving back to a HTC rom actually...
this bugs me too.. I like the PATTERN cause it's kind of unique and cool plus when you enter your pattern there is no "OK" key you have to press like you do when using PIN/PASSWORD which for some reason annoys me.. I suppose it's another line of defense against prying eyes that make it that much more work to try different pin options.. I don't know maybe it's to annoy them into giving up?.. Anyways, I've opted to use the PIN option because I too like seeing the Lock Screen and any info it has and I really don't see it as that big a security hole seeing the small amount of info on the lock screen.. unless you're running a ROM or app that has popups for messages and such.. and if it really is then Google should make the behavior that you do pattern then to the lock screen. of course I'm sure their reasoning for this is the pattern is a more difficult form of security to breach so there is benefit and no harm from taking you straight into the unlocked phone once the correct pattern has been entered. that doesn't mean we have to agree with the mighty G on this and I'm sure either Devs cooking in the ROM kitchen could change the behavior if they saw the want in the community, maybe a patch could be made or an app that changes the behavior. anyways, that's my $.02
If any of you guys find a solution around this issue please let us know!
Haven't seen any solution yet, how about you guys?
When my phone is unlocked and I access any entry in the notification pulldown screen (e.g., weather, email, USB connected......anything), I am taken to the lock screen and required to re-input my unlock pattern (or facial recognition). Since the phone is obviously unlocked when I tap on notification area, this seems like it may be a bug. Why return to the lock screen when the phone is already unlocked?
Is anybody else experiencing this behavior?
Merk
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When my phone is unlocked and I access any entry in the notification pulldown screen (e.g., weather, email, USB connected......anything), I am taken to the lock screen and required to re-input my unlock pattern (or facial recognition). Since the phone is obviously unlocked when I tap on notification area, this seems like it may be a bug. Why return to the lock screen when the phone is already unlocked?
Is anybody else experiencing this behavior?
Merk
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Mine did something like that for a little while....i'd just installed golocker but didn't have it set as the correct default I think.
Thanks for your response, Rocket_Science, but since I do not use the GO Launcher EX, I don't think the GO Locker will work on my phone. And I have no desire to install the GO Launcher. Still looking for a fix . . . .
I am going to bump this back up in the hope that some kind soul (who uses a password or gesture protected lock screen) will test their OG and let me know if they experience similar behavior: with your phone unlocked, access the notification pull down and tap on any item (weather, email, etc.). Are you taken to the item or do you return to the lock screen? I always get take to the lock screen and need to re-input my password to get access to the device.
Many thanks.
Merk
Merk07 said:
I am going to bump this back up in the hope that some kind soul (who uses a password or gesture protected lock screen) will test their OG and let me know if they experience similar behavior: with your phone unlocked, access the notification pull down and tap on any item (weather, email, etc.). Are you taken to the item or do you return to the lock screen? I always get take to the lock screen and need to re-input my password to get access to the device.
Many thanks.
Merk
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This seems to be a known issue with Android 4.x when using an application that disables the lock screen for you. I use Llama, and I have it disable the lock screen automatically after it successfully connects to my home wifi. If I click on anything in the Notification area, the lock screen will appear and come up every time thereafter. As long as I don't click on any Notifications, it will not re-lock itself.
This happened to me on my HTC Evo 3D as well, so I thought it was a bug with Llama, but I saw the same issue mentioned with another application that performs a similar action.
This is probably something that would have to be reported to Google.
I have recently bought A50 in India, for very few hours it is quite a wonderful experience but after a few updates, it has become very annoying. I am using pin lock and FP as my security option along Always on Display.
whenever i am trying to unlock the cell, Slide to Unlock option automatically comes up with annoying advertisements. max time it comes once i pick the phone, i have to slide to get fingerprint option or post FP it comes automatically and many times it leads to open up playstore due to touch on the ad.
Is there any option to shut it off? i have tried thru no secutiry setting and all but it keep exists.
Thanks very much
Im not sure what you're talking about but I'm guessing is it lockscreen stories?? If yes you can turn it off from here
You cannot turn it off but set a new wallpaper and then
I also do not have any idea from where these coming, this is very annoying.
i am attaching the two scsht of lock screen and settings. by the way, while taking scsht it comes with an extension name as daily fit.
i am thinking it is something related to One UI.
Update:
Issue identified and solved. This is not related to One UI or updates. there is an app "Daily Fit" which automatically got downloaded via Galaxy App. while taking the screenshot, i found "DailyFit" is mentioned as like "Settings". have uninstalled the app and it is working properly without "Slide to Unlock" screen with annoying ads.
Thanks very much for your quick replies
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I owned Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro before, which also has an on-screen fingerprint reader. One very neat feature of it was that you could just press your finger on where the reader is when the screen is off -- the phone springs up already unlocked.
On P6P I need to either press a button or tap first to turn the screen on. Only then can I press the finger to scan.
Is this configurable somewhere or maybe moddable?
The phone should awake automatically, once you grab the phone - as long as you have AoD enabled.
My use case is often to unlock the phone just lying on the table without grabbing or moving it. It indeed reacts to me when grabbing, but it would be nice to just press on the sensor and have it unlocked.
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My use case is often to unlock the phone just lying on the table without grabbing or moving it. It indeed reacts to me when grabbing, but it would be nice to just press on the sensor and have it unlocked.
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Again, as long as you have AoD enabled, the phone will wake the FP the moment you touch the sensor. I just tried it out a couple of times myself. The phone is lying flat on it's back, AoD is on (FP symbol is active above the battery % at the bottom) and I just lay my finger on the scanner and it unlocks, without having to move the phone, take it in my hand or anything like that.
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Again, as long as you have AoD enabled, the phone will wake the FP the moment you touch the sensor. I just tried it out a couple of times myself. The phone is lying flat on it's back, AoD is on (FP symbol is active above the battery % at the bottom) and I just lay my finger on the scanner and it unlocks, without having to move the phone, take it in my hand or anything like that.
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Even with AOD off you can select tap to check under gestures and a slight tap will wake the phone for the FPR.
Sorry, you are right -- I didn't have AoD enabled before (I messed up what AoD means ). Still, this is not quite the same feature I used to have:
* AoD drains battery and I don't like the screen being always on;
* Tap to Check works, but you need to do this additional tap (then up the finger and press on the reader). Just placing your finger on top of fingerprint reader and having the phone unlocked was more convenient. It's also kinda slow -- if you just quickly tap and then place your finger on the reader, it often won't work (the screen won't light up or the reader won't start).
Guess there's no such functionality at the moment, so I'll continue using Tap to Check.
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Sorry, you are right -- I didn't have AoD enabled before (I messed up what AoD means ). Still, this is not quite the same feature I used to have:
* AoD drains battery and I don't like the screen being always on;
* Tap to Check works, but you need to do this additional tap (then up the finger and press on the reader). Just placing your finger on top of fingerprint reader and having the phone unlocked was more convenient. It's also kinda slow -- if you just quickly tap and then place your finger on the reader, it often won't work (the screen won't light up or the reader won't start).
Guess there's no such functionality at the moment, so I'll continue using Tap to Check.
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You could use AODNotify, which, besides giving useful notification features since we don't have a notification light on this P6P, also has two options, and I use both: 1) To completely minimize AOD, so it at minimum doesn't show as much on the screen, and 2) there's an option in AODNotify you can enable with ADB for an experimental low power mode, which effectively turns off AOD unless there's a notification that activates AODNotify.
I use it this way and I use the fingerprint reader with the screen completely off all the time.
There are other but potentially more complex solutions others have used here regarding automation apps like Tasker. If you search the P6P section for mentions of Tasker, then you'd probably find details reasonably fast if you were interested in going down that road.
AOD uses 6% battery for me over the course of 24 hrs. To me the convenience of the notifications and FPS make this more than reasonable.
Unless you have an unreliable electricity supply and you have to meticulously control your battery I can't see it having any meaningful impact.
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AOD uses 6% battery for me over the course of 24 hrs. To me the convenience of the notifications and FPS make this more than reasonable.
Unless you have an unreliable electricity supply and you have to meticulously control your battery I can't see it having any meaningful impact.
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Interesting! I do have such times (during travels and/or long hikes), but that's still less than I expected. Perhaps I'll give it a try.
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You could use AODNotify, which, besides giving useful notification features since we don't have a notification light on this P6P, also has two options, and I use both: 1) To completely minimize AOD, so it at minimum doesn't show as much on the screen, and 2) there's an option in AODNotify you can enable with ADB for an experimental low power mode, which effectively turns off AOD unless there's a notification that activates AODNotify.
I use it this way and I use the fingerprint reader with the screen completely off all the time.
There are other but potentially more complex solutions others have used here regarding automation apps like Tasker. If you search the P6P section for mentions of Tasker, then you'd probably find details reasonably fast if you were interested in going down that road.
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AODNotify implements exactly what I was looking for! Thanks I'll monitor its effect on the battery.
abbradar said:
AODNotify implements exactly what I was looking for! Thanks I'll monitor its effect on the battery.
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Awesome! You're welcome!
roirraW edor ehT said:
You could use AODNotify, which, besides giving useful notification features since we don't have a notification light on this P6P, also has two options, and I use both: 1) To completely minimize AOD, so it at minimum doesn't show as much on the screen, and 2) there's an option in AODNotify you can enable with ADB for an experimental low power mode, which effectively turns off AOD unless there's a notification that activates AODNotify.
I use it this way and I use the fingerprint reader with the screen completely off all the time.
There are other but potentially more complex solutions others have used here regarding automation apps like Tasker. If you search the P6P section for mentions of Tasker, then you'd probably find details reasonably fast if you were interested in going down that road.
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Is there a thread or group for AODNotify to ask questions so I don't go OT here? I just installed it and I like it so far. Obviously I'll have to pay for it once I decide to keep it but the adb commands you speak of, is there a way to turn them off if you decide to? And when you say AOD minimal on screen, what do you mean? Ok so I went OT for a bit.
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Is there a thread or group for AODNotify to ask questions so I don't go OT here? I just installed it and I like it so far. Obviously I'll have to pay for it once I decide to keep it but the adb commands you speak of, is there a way to turn them off if you decide to? And when you say AOD minimal on screen, what do you mean? Ok so I went OT for a bit.
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Right here in this section. https://forum.xda-developers.com/se...c[nodes][0]=12313&c[title_only]=1&o=relevance
I'll reply with the rest of the answers in that thread.
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Sorry, you are right -- I didn't have AoD enabled before (I messed up what AoD means ). Still, this is not quite the same feature I used to have:
* AoD drains battery and I don't like the screen being always on;
* Tap to Check works, but you need to do this additional tap (then up the finger and press on the reader). Just placing your finger on top of fingerprint reader and having the phone unlocked was more convenient. It's also kinda slow -- if you just quickly tap and then place your finger on the reader, it often won't work (the screen won't light up or the reader won't start).
Guess there's no such functionality at the moment, so I'll continue using Tap to Check.
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Bro, I was wondering why it would only work after I tapped the screen. Once the screen is on it works on the 1st try Everytime! I don't like AoD either... Guess I'll keep tapping the screen...
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Bro, I was wondering why it would only work after I tapped the screen. Once the screen is on it works on the 1st try Everytime! I don't like AoD either... Guess I'll keep tapping the screen...
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Or use AODNotify, like I linked to (in this section) in the post above yours. Enable two options and still technically have AOD on but you won't ever see it unless you get a notification, and even that is minimized.
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Or use AODNotify, like I linked to (in this section) in the post above yours. Enable two options and still technically have AOD on but you won't ever see it unless you get a notification, and even that is minimized.
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Yes, I was looking at that and it actually looks pretty cool... Thanks man ..
abbradar said:
I owned Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro before, which also has an on-screen fingerprint reader. One very neat feature of it was that you could just press your finger on where the reader is when the screen is off -- the phone springs up already unlocked.
On P6P I need to either press a button or tap first to turn the screen on. Only then can I press the finger to scan.
Is this configurable somewhere or maybe moddable?
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I too had the same phone but it was named as Redmi K20 pro that has this fingerprint scanner that works even when the display is off. But not on this new Pixel 6 pro, I think google should make use of that feature!!
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Or use AODNotify, like I linked to (in this section) in the post above yours. Enable two options and still technically have AOD on but you won't ever see it unless you get a notification, and even that is minimized.
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Which two options do I have to enable in AODNotify? I'm not sure what you mean.
Many thanks in advance!
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Which two options do I have to enable in AODNotify? I'm not sure what you mean.
Many thanks in advance!
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AODNotify Settings / General / at the top choose "Don't show", and at the bottom, after you do the necessary ADB command, choose "Power saving mode".
OP originally asked if there's a way to have the fingerprint scanner function while the screen is off, and that's till what I want. Is that possible? I don't like AOD or pick up to wake or tap to wake, I like my screen to be off and then I like it to be unlocked and I don't like anything in between, or any delay in unlocking that can be avoided.
roirraW edor ehT said:
You could use AODNotify, which, besides giving useful notification features since we don't have a notification light on this P6P, also has two options, and I use both: 1) To completely minimize AOD, so it at minimum doesn't show as much on the screen, and 2) there's an option in AODNotify you can enable with ADB for an experimental low power mode, which effectively turns off AOD unless there's a notification that activates AODNotify.
I use it this way and I use the fingerprint reader with the screen completely off all the time.
There are other but potentially more complex solutions others have used here regarding automation apps like Tasker. If you search the P6P section for mentions of Tasker, then you'd probably find details reasonably fast if you were interested in going down that road.
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Where can one find AODNotify?
DanHakimi said:
OP originally asked if there's a way to have the fingerprint scanner function while the screen is off, and that's till what I want. Is that possible? I don't like AOD or pick up to wake or tap to wake, I like my screen to be off and then I like it to be unlocked and I don't like anything in between, or any delay in unlocking that can be avoided.
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With AODNotify's options enabled, the screen is fully off and then when I use the fingerprint reader - obviously the reader area of the screen lights up because it needs to, but then it goes directly to unlocked.
DanHakimi said:
Where can one find AODNotify?
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Play Store. For me, the second search result from the left is the one for the Pixel (the first one on the left is for Samsung). Good luck!
There is also a thread for AODNotify for Pixel by the devleoper in this section.