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I'd like to warn anyone who is considering purchasing their Galaxy Nexus from Handtec to think twice! Handtec does their business in a VERY unprofessional manner and it may impact you receiving the device you paid for as a result. I pre-ordered a Galaxy Nexus with them on 11-18 in the morning. A few hours later I received an email from them stating " Thank you for your purchase with Handtec..
This email is to notify you that your order has passed all security checks.
Your order is ready to be processed according to your selected delivery options and subject to stock availability.
Once your order is shipped you should receive tracking via email.
Please keep your order number safe for future reference to your purchase."
I later found out that in order to get information from them you have to constantly check their blog site because they don't update their official site with up to date information regarding their products, and even worse THEY DON'T COMMUNICATE INFORMATION REGARDING CHANGES IN PRODUCTS TO THOSE THAT ARE AWAITING THEIR ORDERS! What happened is that due to a bug that effects some Galaxy Nexus devices, HANDTEC STOPPED SHIPPING PHONES OUT unbeknownst to me. They also state on their blog that if you want to still receive your phone, that you have to email them and let them know. Well how the hell am I supposed to know to email you to let you know that I still want my phone IF YOU NEVER CONTACTED ME TO LET ME KNOW I NEED TO DO THAT?!!! I don't check your blog every single day! Ironically enough, I had a live chat with them this morning after checking their blog to confirm that they were indeed shipping. At the time that I checked their blog this morning it simply stated they were shipping devices. I contacted handtec to request that they ensure that my device would be shipped out today. Well apparently later on in the day they updated the blog to state they aren't shipping out anymore unless you email them to request it. Well...SINCE THEY NEVER CONTACTED ME IN ANY WAY TO LET ME KNOW OF THIS CHANGE I NOW WILL BE DELAYED IN RECEIVING MY PHONE.
Handtec is COMPLETELY UNPROFESSIONAL! Customers don't check your blog site everyday multiple times a day. I paid damn near $700 for a device that I EXPECT TO RECEIVE ASAP. If they are concerned if people still want it, then they should email people and let them know their phone will ship, and that if they do not want it, that they should email them to let them know. The concept of by default not shipping someone a product they just paid $700 for is ASININE! The concept that they only communicate updates concerning products people have paid for on a blog site or twitter is EVEN MORE ASININE AND BEYOND UNPROFESSIONAL. If I were not a member here at XDA I would never have even known that I needed to email them to have them ship my phone...since the last correspondence I received from them stated my order was being processed...and that when I spoke to them on the live chat this morning they made no mention of this. THIS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. There are people who have ordered from other places that have had much better experiences (like clove, negri electronics, expansys, etc). I wrote this to warn anyone who is considering purchasing from HANDTEC....DON'T DO IT. ORDER YOUR PHONE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!
And to those who may say well you only have to wait one more day...it isn't that simple. I expected to receive my phone before Thanksgiving. I will be leaving for Thanksgiving and won't be back for a little while. Fedex will only hold your package for a short period of time, after which they return it to the sender. So this ineptitude on the part of Handtec has caused a problem.
I think you're overreacting, it makes sense that they stop shipping on a defective product, and it also makes sense that they let you know it is defective before they shipped it to you. I'm sure if you lived in an area where you used the 900mhz frequency you would be more grateful.
actually i disagree with you this is a faulty product with a serious flaw until it is rectified they are selling a known faulty device under the pretence that its ok
yes they could've kept shipping like clove but personally i like that they ceased orders rather than ship a faulty product, that in the event of a recall would require everyone to send it back.
we all knew this had happened hours ago
handtec is a good reputable company who chose this option to avoid mass returns due to a potential recall. this way YOU are responsible for returns cause you knew ahead of time that it would arrive essentially broken
however i do think a mass email should've gone out to everyone saying they had ceased and what to do rather than just leave it up to the blog that i do agree with
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Sooo...you're going to receive your phone a day late?
Have you called the news yet? You might still have time to get it on the 8 o'clock special.
Jokes and sarcasm aside, it sucks when a company doesn't keep you up to date on something that's happening...but they most likely got more orders in a few days than your entire family has ever placed of *anything* in their lives. For a smaller company without a sufficient content-management solution it would be *incredibly* difficult to notify all the users that ordered this device that there was an issue.
Beyond that...you're flying off the handle because you won't get your phone for 1 more day? People that have Verizon were expecting to receive the phone before any other carrier in the world and now we're waiting until the 8th of December (possibly later). You don't see me flipping out about it to Verizon...because I'm an adult who has other things to occupy my time with.
Maybe get a hobby?
As I see it, you received the same email I received. I placed my order on Monday of this week. Not once did I receive an email notifying me of stock arrival, that I discovered on their site as well as here. So I waited, I also learned from these two same sources that they not only checked the stock for a known issue with the device but that they discovered it and halted shipping. Completely professional. The same methods they used to notify everyone of stock arrival is the same method they used to notify everyone that there are issues and they aren't shipping. They even provided you with a way to notify them if you don't mind receiving defective merchandise than let them know. Several did and they received emails of their shipments going out.
I had asked them to ship my product even its defective and they have still not shipped it. I won't be getting by thanksgiving now. I did email them that i am unhappy with it.. i don't think so they cared about that email. Its good thing they did ship the defective product at first time, but not letting customers know about it is bad.
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I think you're overreacting, it makes sense that they stop shipping on a defective product, and it also makes sense that they let you know it is defective before they shipped it to you. I'm sure if you lived in an area where you used the 900mhz frequency you would be more grateful.
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No it makes sense that they let me know I need to let them know if I still want it. Putting it on a blog site is unacceptable and UNACCEPTABLE.
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actually i disagree with you this is a faulty product with a serious flaw until it is rectified they are selling a known faulty device under the pretence that its ok
yes they could've kept shipping like clove but personally i like that they ceased orders rather than ship a faulty product, that in the event of a recall would require everyone to send it back.
we all knew this had happened hours ago
handtec is a good reputable company who chose this option to avoid mass returns due to a potential recall. this way YOU are responsible for returns cause you knew ahead of time that it would arrive essentially broken
however i do think a mass email should've gone out to everyone saying they had ceased and what to do rather than just leave it up to the blog that i do agree with
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No we didn't all know this happened hours ago. Had I known, I would have emailed them. They made absolutely no attempt to notify their customers of this change. If they are going to err on the side of not shipping, THEN THEY SHOULD AT THE VERY LEAST NOTIFY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY WAITING. Completely unprofessional.
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Sooo...you're going to receive your phone a day late?
Have you called the news yet? You might still have time to get it on the 8 o'clock special.
Jokes and sarcasm aside, it sucks when a company doesn't keep you up to date on something that's happening...but they most likely got more orders in a few days than your entire family has ever placed of *anything* in their lives. For a smaller company without a sufficient content-management solution it would be *incredibly* difficult to notify all the users that ordered this device that there was an issue.
Beyond that...you're flying off the handle because you won't get your phone for 1 more day? People that have Verizon were expecting to receive the phone before any other carrier in the world and now we're waiting until the 8th of December (possibly later). You don't see me flipping out about it to Verizon...because I'm an adult who has other things to occupy my time with.
Maybe get a hobby?
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You don't read do you?.....I already addressed people who might respond with your smart ass response. This will not equate in waiting "1 more day". This will result in me having to wait until I'm back in town before I can receive my device. Next time read before you decide to make a smart remark. Thanks.
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As I see it, you received the same email I received. I placed my order on Monday of this week. Not once did I receive an email notifying me of stock arrival, that I discovered on their site as well as here. So I waited, I also learned from these two same sources that they not only checked the stock for a known issue with the device but that they discovered it and halted shipping. Completely professional. The same methods they used to notify everyone of stock arrival is the same method they used to notify everyone that there are issues and they aren't shipping. They even provided you with a way to notify them if you don't mind receiving defective merchandise than let them know. Several did and they received emails of their shipments going out.
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Wrong, completely unprofessional. They are assuming people are going to check their blog every day several times a day. If it weren't for XDA I wouldn't have even known to check their blog for timely updates to begin with. I guess I'm used to competent service where companies actually correspond with their customer. Furthermore, I checked their blog around 6am this morning (11am their time) and there was no new information on there. How many times today do you think I should have checked their blog? Why should I have to keep checking a companies twitter page or their blog?!...ESPECIALLY when I've already paid them my $700! The LEAST they can do is keep me apprised of information regarding MY PURCHASE. Why do I have to check information regarding MY PURCHASE on a twitter page or a blog?! THAT IS UNPROFESSIONAL.
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You don't read do you?.....I already addressed people who might respond with your smart ass response. This will not equate in waiting "1 more day". This will result in me having to wait until I'm back in town before I can receive my device. Next time read before you decide to make a smart remark. Thanks.
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I read very well, actually. I read your post saying you'd be out of town and wouldn't be able to get it right away. How long is out of town? Since you didn't say, my guess would be a matter of days. I'm going to be out of town this coming weekend, as well, and if Verizon launches the phone this weekend I'll say, "Hmm. Well I guess my life comes first and I'll have to pick up the phone when I get the chance in the future".
Once again, because I'm an adult and have priorities that outweigh receiving a gadget before everyone else that won't have an effect on my life in any way.
I understand you're mad, but you're flying off the handle and about to burst a blood vessel because you might have to wait awhile for a device that just released. If this isn't a first-world problem, I don't know what is.
When I was in the military I didn't complain and cry because I was going to miss Christmas...because I understood what the word "priority" meant. Put it on the backburner and get it when you get it. It's *really* not that big of a deal.
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I think you're overreacting.
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I've bought lots of stuff from both Handtec and Clove and never had a problem that was within their control. They rely on both distributors and Samsung to receive their products (they don't get product direct from Samsung) and, with high-demand devices, the communication can get muddled. Samsung's not exactly communicative.
If this has you wigged out, you definately shouldn't have imported a phone. If it needs service and you have to be without it for a month while it's repaired in the UK you will probably go apoplectic.
As far as not notifying (those that have preordered) people by direct email correspondence (at the time the decision was made to stop shipping) is unacceptable as far as I'm concerned, and if they don't have the ability to send a batch email of this type is not my concern.
In the future this type of business practice will weigh heavily on my decision whether or not to purchase from Handtec.
You are missing the point of my statement. For pre ordered devices, Handtech has a method in which they notify people of when they receive stock and that is their blog. I could understand you being upset if they emailed you saying it was in and then didn't email you to tell you to communicate if you want them to send it now. But that didn't happen. But I get it, you are angry, you wanted it before your trip, so don't do business with them. There is an entire other thread for Handtech and most over there seem to be happy with how they have handled it.
PS: Also, we know this issue effects 900mhz bands, none of us know how 850mhz will work out. For a $700 device, as you pointed out, wouldn't you want to know the issue isn't happening here in the US too?
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I read very well, actually. I read your post saying you'd be out of town and wouldn't be able to get it right away. How long is out of town? Since you didn't say, my guess would be a matter of days. I'm going to be out of town this coming weekend, as well, and if Verizon launches the phone this weekend I'll say, "Hmm. Well I guess my life comes first and I'll have to pick up the phone when I get the chance in the future".
Once again, because I'm an adult and have priorities that outweigh receiving a gadget before everyone else that won't have an effect on my life in any way.
I understand you're mad, but you're flying off the handle and about to burst a blood vessel because you might have to wait awhile for a device that just released. If this isn't a first-world problem, I don't know what is.
When I was in the military I didn't complain and cry because I was going to miss Christmas...because I understood what the word "priority" meant. Put it on the backburner and get it when you get it. It's *really* not that big of a deal.
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First, save your little internet catch phrases for someone else. And quite frankly I don't really give a damn about what you thought when you were in the military. That has absolutely no bearing on what I'm discussing. The bottom line is, I'm not receiving what I was supposed to be receiving when I was supposed to be receiving it, WHEN I PAID TO RECEIVE IT WHEN I WAS SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE IT. It's that simple. Due to a company's ineptitude and unprofessionalism this situation has arised. If you can't seem to grasp that then I don't know how else to put it to you. When I pay for something I expect to receive it according to the terms I agreed to when I paid for it. I don't think that's asking too much. At the very least if there is a change, I expect to be notified in a proper manner of the change. All they had to do was email me, and I would have responded immediately and all of this could have very easily been avoided. Instead they gambled that I might check their blog for a 2nd time today instead of notifying me directly. That is unacceptable. If you can't see that then I don't know what else to tell you.
You ordered on the 18th right? Defects aside, you do realize no one knew on that day when they would actually be receiving their shipment? If you were familiar with importing a device, or asked ahead of time you would have known that "Expected Stock Dates" are in flux until they get it in hand.
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Wrong, completely unprofessional. They are assuming people are going to check their blog every day several times a day. If it weren't for XDA I wouldn't have even known to check their blog for timely updates to begin with. I guess I'm used to competent service where companies actually correspond with their customer. Furthermore, I checked their blog around 6am this morning (11am their time) and there was no new information on there. How many times today do you think I should have checked their blog? Why should I have to keep checking a companies twitter page or their blog?!...ESPECIALLY when I've already paid them my $700! The LEAST they can do is keep me apprised of information regarding MY PURCHASE. Why do I have to check information regarding MY PURCHASE on a twitter page or a blog?! THAT IS UNPROFESSIONAL.
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Thankfully, someone at Handtec just sent am email. At 1am UK.
Long nights for them....
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What a ridiculous over reaction by the OP. Yes it's frustrating and had I not been keeping an eye on this forum I might have missed the blog entry. I've chosen to take delivery of my device but I still think Handtec made the right decision. The way it was communicated was poor but have clove etc done a better job? No they haven't.
In the end I emailed them at 5.30pm (UK time), I received an email with the tracking ref at 7.05pm and a final email from customer services at 9pm. (NB they ordinarily shut at 5.30pm).
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BarryH_GEG said:
I've bought lots of stuff from both Handtec and Clove and never had a problem that was within their control. They rely on both distributors and Samsung to receive their products (they don't get product direct from Samsung) and, with high-demand devices, the communication can get muddled. Samsung's not exactly communicative.
If this has you wigged out, you definately shouldn't have imported a phone. If it needs service and you have to be without it for a month while it's repaired in the UK you will probably go apoplectic.
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This has nothing to do with Handtec not communicating with their customer and them HOPING you happen to go to their blog site. If the last email you received from them tells you that your order is being processed then you may not ever even check their blog...because you're under the impression that your order is being processed. Since they never contacted you to tell you any different you have no reason to believe different and would therefore have no reason to check their blog. COMMUNICATION IS KEY!
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As far as not notifying (those that have preordered) people by direct email correspondence (at the time the decision was made to stop shipping) is unacceptable as far as I'm concerned, and if they don't have the ability to send a batch email of this type is not my concern.
In the future this type of business practice will weigh heavily on my decision whether or not to purchase from Handtec.
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EXACTLY! If they don't have systems in place to send out batch emails, that has nothing to do with me. As far as I'm concerned I paid my money for a product and I expect to be kept apprised of information regarding MY PURCHASE. I don't think that's asking too much.
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You are missing the point of my statement. For pre ordered devices, Handtech has a method in which they notify people of when they receive stock and that is their blog. I could understand you being upset if they emailed you saying it was in and then didn't email you to tell you to communicate if you want them to send it now. But that didn't happen. But I get it, you are angry, you wanted it before your trip, so don't do business with them. There is an entire other thread for Handtech and most over there seem to be happy with how they have handled it.
PS: Also, we know this issue effects 900mhz bands, none of us know how 850mhz will work out. For a $700 device, as you pointed out, wouldn't you want to know the issue isn't happening here in the US too?
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You're missing the point. Their method of communication is inadequate. It operates on the assumption that you will continuously and repeatedly check their blog. Let me remind you that I DID CHECK THEIR BLOG THIS MORNING BEFORE GETTING ON THE LIVE CHAT WITH THEM. I don't know about you, but I tend to not check company's blogs several times per day. I checked it today and that information was not there. THIS is why they need to communicate directly with their customers. Posting on twitter or a blog IS UNPROFESSIONAL! Furthermore, some people may not ever check their blog...so how will they get information about THEIR ORDERS?...look at it this way, if the last email you received from them tells you that your order is being processed then you may not ever even check their blog...because you're under the impression that your order is being processed. Since they never contacted you to tell you any different you have no reason to believe different and would therefore have no reason to check their blog. COMMUNICATION IS KEY!
mysterioustko said:
First, save your little internet catch phrases for someone else. And quite frankly I don't really give a damn about what you thought when you were in the military. That has absolutely no bearing on what I'm discussing. The bottom line is, I'm not receiving what I was supposed to be receiving when I was supposed to be receiving it, WHEN I PAID TO RECEIVE IT WHEN I WAS SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE IT. It's that simple. Due to a company's ineptitude and unprofessionalism this situation has arised. If you can't seem to grasp that then I don't know how else to put it to you. When I pay for something I expect to receive it according to the terms I agreed to when I paid for it. I don't think that's asking too much. At the very least if there is a change, I expect to be notified in a proper manner of the change. All they had to do was email me, and I would have responded immediately and all of this could have very easily been avoided. Instead they gambled that I might check their blog for a 2nd time today instead of notifying me directly. That is unacceptable. If you can't see that then I don't know what else to tell you.
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Your argument would be valid if there was a definitive shipping date, and if the phones weren't defective.
For what it's worth, I just received an email stating shipments are on hold and the reasons. Professional? Like I said, with prdordrrs never hold the estimated dare on stone, will lead to disappointment.
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Hey guys so this may or may not apply to you but basically I want to know if you haven't received your TV yet that lg promised to give Canadian users who pre-ordered the G7.
It's been nearly 4 months and I get nothing but bs excuses every time I contact the lg promo department. Enough is enough. I'm sure I'm not alone (hopefully). So if you are also still waiting, drop a comment and then let's see if anyone on the portal team wants to write about how lg is giving us the runaround on this. Stuff like that is bad publicity for them and they sure don't want that. Also if they think we should just sit here and take it and not expect a backlash then they're going to get a wake up call.
Stuff like this is definitely news worthy and if there are legitimately several of us that haven't received the tv they promised us then let's make some noise.
And please for the love of God do not make a silly post telling me that you did get yours already because that's not what this is for. This is for those that are like me and are getting the shaft from them.
I had a similar experience with my accessory rebate offer. In the state's I was eligible for 200 usd back and they tried to deny it. I had to contact PayPal and they forced them to either give the rebate or refund the devices, accessories, carrier activation and taxes included. I had all the paperwork, lg promotion information on the site printed out and even took pictures and recorded at my carrier's store. Pretty sad I had to resort to this, I won't take their word as fact anymore.
Is this the promotion you're referring to? https://lg-promotions.com/ca/en/pages/g7tvgift/holding
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Is this the promotion you're referring to? https://lg-promotions.com/ca/en/pages/g7tvgift/holding
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Yep sure is. Seems the promotion department is giving me and I did see a few posts about it on reddit with users also getting the runaround.
The goal of this is if a handful of people or more are experiencing the same thing that it might make for some interesting discussion or perhaps a portal discussion and see if it gets their attention.
I checked /r/LGG7 on Reddit and there are people who have received the TV. They recommended emailing and calling a few places you might want to try.
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I checked /r/LGG7 on Reddit and there are people who have received the TV. They recommended emailing and calling a few places you might want to try.
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Yep some definitely have received theirs. It's very odd indeed why some of us haven't. It's not a matter of shipping as they do say they'll notify us when it is sent out. To bash them over a third party shipping issue would be completely unfair.
I sent them another email last night. Normally they do reply within a day so to their credit they don't ignore us. But there's always another setback and excuse on why it hasn't shipped. It seems as though they're looking for ways to delay until I give up. Here's a couple screenshots of some correspondence which I've had with them. That clearly says it's approved
Update: I just spoke to a gentleman at the lg promotion department regarding this. Reading between the lines this is a disastrous promotion for them and some people who had submitted their claims still haven't even been approved. So i suppose they're in even worse shape than I am.
In the end the person I spoke to is limited in what they can do. They cannot force the TV's to be shipped out. However he did say he can ask his supervisor to try and prioritize my claim and have him request from the fulfillment department that they finish processing my claim.
So I guess I'll wait and see. If this works then I suppose those in a similar situation as I am who may not be posting here may be able to use it as an alternative option to try to expedite the process.
I'll just leave this link right here
OMG, even TV's are not safe from LG's infamous bootloops!??? Please tell us if LG will repair it or send you another one. Honestly I hope for a happy resolution.......
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OMG, even TV's are not safe from LG's infamous bootloops!??? Please tell us if LG will repair it or send you another one. Honestly I hope for a happy resolution.......
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Actually i was quite shocked that I didn't even have to contact them. I was going to but before I even had time I got an email from fed ex telling me another tv was on its way and scheduled for tomorrow. So I'm guessing someone there must be following me on you tube which is surprising because I don't exactly post frequently nor do I post anything overlay interesting. Just theme related stuff. So I gotta tip my hat to them acting quickly to resolve this for me.
Right now i am frustrated, upset and just don't know how to swallow this. Ill try to be short. Need advice on what to do.
I have previously had issues with two of my google xl phones.
I have returned one of them.
Received the second one as a replacement which was also problematic.
I have decided to return the Pixel stand along with that replacement phone together and get a refund. (Since pixel and the stand came as a deal)
Google sent me the packing slips, I remember asking the rep can if i could ship both items in one box to which i received a reply "yes" (not that it makes a difference)
I came to UPS gave the lady the box. phone and stand was in it. I also put return paperwork for the phone and for the stand in the box in front of her and past her two shipping labels. One for the stand and one for the phone. She closed the box and put only one packing slip on the box. Told me i have put the paperwork in the box already. There is no need to put the second shipping labels as its going to the same place. You get where im going with it now?
Google received the package in 2 days and started to process the refund for the pixel stand (as that was the packing slip she chose)
I have called them asking them about the phone and they knew nothing of it.
After over 4 weeks of trying to call them and get answers of my escalated case i received little to nothing. In fact calling them 3 weeks after they"ve received the package to get answers and they didn't even get my story straight. I had to tell them again what had happen. Obviously, shipping rep Lori, have told me not to worry, the box went into one room. They will find it......
So just now, i get an answer in my email saying "the package didn't contain the device" therefore no refund.
Feel free to tell me im an idiot do ship and do what i did. As Im entertaining that idea as well, sadly.
Im know what i put in the box so either UPS or Google had lost it or took it
I did take few pictures of the box with the phone and stand and packing papers in that UPS store before shipping them out.
If they would have told me right away there was no item i would have went to UPS store while the lady still remembered me. May be if they had video surveillance they could have pulled it as well. Now after a month im not so sure bout neither.
Cant they look at the pictures and see the time, date, location, authenticate it? Doesnt UPS ship the package with weight shown?? Im sure weight of the package was way heavier then just a single pixel stand. Wonder if they even called UPS.
Its very hard to swallow this as a lesson.
Tomorrow ill go talk to UPS see if i can get some answers. Ill call google tomorrow as well, see if i could get some answers as well.
I don't have any experience with returning items, but I do know that when trading in phones for credit towards a new device it explicitly states that you must send a separate package for each device being traded in as they are tracked individually. Sorry to hear that happened but if they had already paid for the shipping labels I guess I would have just boxed and sent separately since I wasn't paying the shipping...
I had the same issue with a phone I bought for my mom. They sent us the wrong phone and instructed us to refuse delivery and return to sender. Long story short, since they didn't tell me to use a label or send me one for return the phone got lost. So I was out $300 and three months of arguing. To make it worse they still tried to charge me the fee on Fi for not activating the phone on the plan. It really rubbed me wrong and even after all the good years they treated me well it still made me sour.
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I don't have any experience with returning items, but I do know that when trading in phones for credit towards a new device it explicitly states that you must send a separate package for each device being traded in as they are tracked individually. Sorry to hear that happened but if they had already paid for the shipping labels I guess I would have just boxed and sent separately since I wasn't paying the shipping...
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It was a refund tho. I wish it would say anywhere what you wrote, would have saved me.
As soon as they received the package I had a feeling they scanned it and tossed it to the side. Did little to nothing to investigate either.
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I had the same issue with a phone I bought for my mom. They sent us the wrong phone and instructed us to refuse delivery and return to sender. Long story short, since they didn't tell me to use a label or send me one for return the phone got lost. So I was out $300 and three months of arguing. To make it worse they still tried to charge me the fee on Fi for not activating the phone on the plan. It really rubbed me wrong and even after all the good years they treated me well it still made me sour.
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Sucks. I still can't swallow the loss.
All I have is these two pics.
Someone took or lost the phone.
It's painful to eat this.
Good luck, sounds like a nightmare.
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Good luck, sounds like a nightmare.
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thx, it is.
From the moment i walked out of that UPS store i had a bad feeling. Thats why from my first call to them ive been pushing them to check and find the package but that goes nowhere when all people do is read the scrip on the phone. led nowhere. I know what i packed in and what i brought to UPS, so its blows so hard that im losing 1275 Cnd.
Will go to that ups place tomorrow, hope that lady works is there and pray to god she remembers me and our conversation. So we could go back to those fvckers and say look harder for the damn device.
As soon as they would have opened that box they would have seen two items and two pieces of paperwork for each.
Errrr I'll stop venting.
File against them in small claims court. Around here it costs like 50 bucks to file. That will at least get their attention.
I am about to do it over the 50 pre order credit, just because I am pissed about their BS.
Or maybe a shipping claim with the carrier.
TonikJDK said:
File against them in small claims court. Around here it costs like 50 bucks to file. That will at least get their attention.
I am about to do it over the 50 pre order credit, just because I am pissed about their BS.
Or maybe a shipping claim with the carrier.
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Great, thank you for the advice. Ill go to UPS tomorrow to chat to them but if i can go to a small claim court ill do that too. thank you, thank you.
I wonder if the lady at the store took it after you left. She could of easily told another employee/driver that hey there's a $1000 phone in there take it. Not very uncommon for UPS/FedEx etc to steal from customers.
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Great, thank you for the advice. Ill go to UPS tomorrow to chat to them but if i can go to a small claim court ill do that too. thank you, thank you.
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Unfortunately, the pictures don't show a phone or a stand. They only show a box and some bubble wrap. So I don't think that's going to do it. Also, I don't think a UPS employee would take a $1000 traceable device and put at risk a job that probably pays a decent salary. But something happened to the device and you will just need to keep on Google to find out what happened. Has the phone been turned on? They should have a record of that as well as blacklisting the IMEI. It might take a while but with persistence you should get your money back.
Hello OkayGK, hope it all works out for you. I'm waiting for my phone to arrive. It's been 2 weeks. Can you please tell me how to get in touch with company reps. Thanks. Again I hope they resolve your issues and you get your refund. Good Luck.
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Hello OkayGK, hope it all works out for you. I'm waiting for my phone to arrive. It's been 2 weeks. Can you please tell me how to get in touch with company reps. Thanks. Again I hope they resolve your issues and you get your refund. Good Luck.
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Hey. Funny I deleted my bookmark for Google support the other day to clean up my chrome Abit. I have the number for the saved to my phone. Didn't think I'd need the bookmark anymore.
Search through Google store in your account settings.
Should find it somewhere there.
For Canada here's the # (855) 836-3987
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Hey. Funny I deleted my bookmark for Google support the other day to clean up my chrome Abit. I have the number for the saved to my phone. Didn't think I'd need the bookmark anymore.
Search through Google store in your account settings.
Should find it somewhere there.
For Canada here's the # (855) 836-3987
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Thanks for the info. I will look in my settings for contact info. I never got an email from them saying it was shipped yet. So i guess it's just do to normal delay time. I think if is not shipped the support reps. will not have any status info. on order.
I've read stories about people doing chargebacks in similar situations which can result in your entire Google account being closed. Just FYI if you intend to dispute the charge or file small claims, they may just close your account and move on.
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I wonder if the lady at the store took it after you left. She could of easily told another employee/driver that hey there's a $1000 phone in there take it. Not very uncommon for UPS/FedEx etc to steal from customers.
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Anything is possible but the lady was older and seamed nice. I kept thinking it was on googles end.
I went to talk to UPS, lady wasn't working. Talked to another gentleman there. He told me he will talk with her as well as if i need a letter from them they can assist. I was told as soon as the package leaves that store it is in UPS hands. So now, i think a driver or anyone else could have taken the item as well. Again, anything could happen at this point. I can entertain the ideas left and right where that phone could be.
Sucks
bobby janow said:
Unfortunately, the pictures don't show a phone or a stand. They only show a box and some bubble wrap. So I don't think that's going to do it. Also, I don't think a UPS employee would take a $1000 traceable device and put at risk a job that probably pays a decent salary. But something happened to the device and you will just need to keep on Google to find out what happened. Has the phone been turned on? They should have a record of that as well as blacklisting the IMEI. It might take a while but with persistence you should get your money back.
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Yeah, i doubt ups store took it, however drivers could... I've heard stories. Also, remember the story where google had chose a shipper to deliver phones to us and that company would take the phones out of the boxes and ship empty boxes? i think i read it somewhere here. Had me so paranoid, i was taking videos while unboxing my phones.
What UPS guy told me today is as soon as the package leave their location it goes to a wh. Where they weight the package and charge google according to its weight. Im sure they could look at that and see how heavy the box was when UPS shipped it. That would tell everything right away. If it was as light as just a stand means phone was taken out. If the package was heavy enough for a stand and a phone/accessories then its on googles end. Of course i could have put stones inside those boxes. Yet i wasnt even lucky enough to have google come back to me with that. Still have to call them see what where how etc.
I would not want to band the Imei as it can probably be changed remotely. Least if I let the IMEI number be there is a chance if the phone is in use it could show.
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I've read stories about people doing chargebacks in similar situations which can result in your entire Google account being closed. Just FYI if you intend to dispute the charge or file small claims, they may just close your account and move on.
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Sadly, i understand. I paid of my Mastercard as i kept waiting for weeks to get refund from them. I could of gave that phone or bought a new phone for my gf, or use that money for something else. The fact that some asshole may be using my phone or someone made a fvck up and got away with it, whether its UPS or Google, now thats hard to swallow. Im trying to be possessive and making my peace with it but ill also will keep trying to do everything i can to get the refund. Cant give up, yet. Im not rich to close my eyes on this it hurts and even rich people probably would still fight this.
here is the last response form google rep who was looking after my case.
Thank you for contacting Google Support!
Thanks for contacting us about your order. We’ve carefully reviewed your case and our records confirm that the package you have sent us does not contain the device, therefore we have not processed the refund.
As a next step, you may consider initiating an investigation with the carrier or notify local law enforcement. We’ll be happy to assist in an investigation.
The more I think about this, it's a straight up UPS claim and you will not have much if any trouble getting UPS to pay up.
How did you purchase the phone? All debit and credit cards with Visa/MasterCard on them have protection built in. Contact your card provider. It does not matter if you paid it off. Hopefully you have the UPS tracking # too as they are likely the ones that your card or Google is going to go after, after the fact as all shipments have insurance on them.
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Great, thank you for the advice. Ill go to UPS tomorrow to chat to them but if i can go to a small claim court ill do that too. thank you, thank you.
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Any update? I hope you able to make headway, sending good vibes.
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How did you purchase the phone? All debit and credit cards with Visa/MasterCard on them have protection built in. Contact your card provider. It does not matter if you paid it off. Hopefully you have the UPS tracking # too as they are likely the ones that your card or Google is going to go after, after the fact as all shipments have insurance on them.
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I have two credits link to google as well as paypal. Now i think just one credit as the limit on it was increased so there was no need for another but at the time of purchases ive had two.
I don't know why the credit card is liable for this. I know, i know get my money anyway... who cares where it comes from but now the more i got to sleep on it the more im bothered by the fact i got owned and less by the money. No im not rich, i want the money but its hard to explain. All i know it bothers allot.
I just dunno anymore, lost a bit. again, friday i found out from google they couldnt find the device and now its monday. Less im bothered by the money more im bothered by the scam or mistake someones made. stings.
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Any update? I hope you able to make headway, sending good vibes.
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Not yet, ive been so so busy. still am but hopefully im going to call google later on today. see whats up and then call UPS and try to file a claim.
The more i read their email (google). I posted on the first page. The more i understand that they asked me to contact my carrier, meaning not google but my cell phone carrier. WTF, how is carrier responsible. And Police im guessing which is again nor here or there but hey if i need to ill go to authorities.
My priority as of now and im not so upset anymore is
Call google and find out
Did they get my package (the box)
When they opened, what was in the box?
One item (stand) or two Items( phone and the stand) or non? As they were not clean in the email and even refund for the stand didnt come in.
More importantly. UPS store told me USP will charge them for package weight. So how heavy was the box? So if the box was 6 pounds (3 pounds for phone and 3 for a stand) and they received the box and it was light as nothing was in there, wouldnt that hit red flags automatically? Light box, when opened nothing in it, yet it says its 6 pounds. UPS wtf, where are items. or am i wrong?
Unless google doesnt weigh the products then by that definition they should be liable in my mind, as UPS can be sending empty boxes non stop and google can tell customers fuk off, u sent us nothing. You know what i mean.
So that info is going to be crucial for me, If i can get someone on the line who can actually provide me something instead of looking at the screen reading what it says there and saying "sorry" every two min.
I'll keep you all updated, thank you for the support.
The title says it all. Google decided to use 'Ontrac' as the company to deliver my 6 pro. And as you might expect, it they decided to mark it as delivered.
A few days ago, after i saw my package shipping email, i decided to look up reviews on Ontrac on Reddit and other various forums.
A downright litany/fukkton of people were complaining that Ontrac marked the package as delivered, when they never were. Packages seem to grow legs and disappear with this company. This gave me deep core cringy anxiety once i saw this.
Now....... I'm pissed, because i can't even reach Google, because of the INSANE wait times for calls and online chat. I'm beyond upset, what a complete sh1tshow.
Please request to have another company deliver your pixel. Stay a mile away from Ontrac.
has your package been stated as delivered? wasn't clear by your post....
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The title says it all. Google decided to use 'Ontrac' as the company to deliver my 6 pro.
A few days ago, after i saw my package shipping email, i decided to look up reviews on Ontrac on Reddit and other various forums.
A downright litany/fukkton of people were complaining that Ontrac marked the package as delivered, when they never were. Packages seem to grow legs and disappear with this company. Now I'm pissed, because i can't even reach Google, because of the INSANE wait times for calls and online chat. I'm beyond upset, what a complete sh1tshow.
Please request to have another company deliver your pixel. Stay a mile away from Ontrac.
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Edit: forgot to type that my package was indeed marked off as delivered. But of course it wasn't.
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has your package been stated as delivered? wasn't clear by your post....
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Of course it was marked off as delivered. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to type this.
In the modern world of shipping companies dropping and running, its a GREAT idea to put a motion sensitive security camera of some sort to catch the front of your property.
I use some generic high resolution IP cameras and a Zoneminder server.
If there is ever a claim that a package was delivered, you just need to find the footage applicable for the time they claim it was delivered. If none exists, then they obviously didn't deliver.
I've caught all kinds of weird stuff, like a delivery ape literally THROWING a package marked "fragile". Also a neighbor from across the street trying to sneak a couple of extra bags onto my driveway, and after I had a little chat with him, sneaking it onto OTHER people's driveways.
Note: it was an old guy, and I actually told him that it was OK, just give me a call first so I know its him and not someone from the other end of town throwing out body parts
Similar situation with Best Buy. Had I known, I would have done in store pickup. Now mine is "an event has delayed your delivery". I guess on the plus side, it hasn't officially been stolen yet.
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Similar situation with Best Buy. Had I known, I would have done in store pickup. Now mine is "an event has delayed your delivery". I guess on the plus side, it hasn't officially been stolen yet.
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OMG. Still nothing on my stolen/vanished p6p. I had to order one off eBay, and on top of that miraculously, an hour later found a 256 stormy black at best buy that will be delivered on the 3rd! I got completely scalped on the eBay pixel.
I have learned a valuable lesson. Don't get phones shipped to your house guys.
1) Always get doorbell camera security system for your package delivery doors.
2). Try everything in your power to get packages routed to 'in package store pickup', and DO NOT use sketch package delivery companies like OnTrac!
So I decided to share my experience with Google so far. An experience that unfortunately is still ongoing. I'll start by saying the last pixel device I purchased was the nexus 6p. Decided I was going to try the pixel 6 pro as I was intrigued with the new features and Google tensor capabilities.
Release day comes. I try to preorder the 6p and the website keeps crashing before I can complete the order. After 2 hours of trying, I suddenly get a message say they were out of stock. I was bummed. I decided to try later that night and to my surprise everything was back in stock and I was able to finally submit my order.
After waiting a week or two, my device finally ships and arrives. I have the phone for 2 weeks and suddenly the system board completely fries. Screen totally black and will not power on. I Google my options and find a page where Google recommends taking it to an "authorized repair shop". The shop is nearly 45 minutes away. I take it there only to be told "they will see what they can do". A few days later I get a call and they say the system board is fried and I should contact Google to have a replacement sent out. I already knew the system board was likely fried from the symptoms. The "repair shop had no parts to fix the phone and had no replacements in hand to swap mine out with. So what was the point in trying them? I ended up wasting 3 hours of driving time just to be in the same position I was.
So I contact Google and initiate a replacement request after waiting on hold for over 1 hour. I pick the "rush" option where they send the device and put a hold on your account until you send back the old phone. After a week, my replacement still wasn't shipped. I had to contact Google support and after the 4th try, they finally shipped out the replacement. As soon as I received the replacement, I sent back the defective unit with the prepaid label they included. It was due back December 16th to avoid charges. I tracked my package and it showed Google received it December 9th. Ok .. great. End of story right? Nope!
December 16th rolls around and I get a notice saying I didn't send back the defective device and I would be charged the full amount of the replacement device. Furious that I once again would have to reach out to Google, I replied to the email from my last support ticket to let them know they once again messed up and incorrectly charged me. I receive a reply saying my issue would be escalated. After 3 days I heard nothing else. I replied to email asking for an update and again, no response. So I decided I would have to once again get a call from Google. The support person clearly had no idea what they were doing and I was told they were going to escalate the ticket and I would hear back in 24 - 48 hours. 3 days later, still have not heard back. So once again, time to contact Google. Again, same result as I was given no answers and the ticket was escalated and still have not heard anything back.
So it has now been 2 weeks that I was incorrectly charged and $973 was stolen from my account. Google obviously does not want to fix this as it takes 5 seconds to confirm with tracking number that I sent the device back and issue a refund. At this time I feel like I need to look at other options because they simply will not resolve the issue.
Has anyone else ever had this awful experience with google trying to get an incorrect charge removed/reimbursed? I am thinking of disputing the charge through my bank to see if they have better luck, but not sure if that is the best answer or not. One thing is for sure, Google will NEVER make another dime from me as long as I am alive. 2 weeks and they still have not corrected a mistake THEY made and returned my money? Outrageous. I wouldn't expect this level of support from the worst company in the world.
I am sorry that you had to go through this. I read someone else's experience which was similar on the Google Pixel reddit. Not sure if you posted there too but there are a few others who have either gotten damaged phones or received empty boxes and they stated Google would just escalate the issue, back and forth several times.
From my experience, I've never had an issue with Google support but this was for the Nexus 6p, 2XL, 3XL, and 4XL. Each time an advanced RMA went through without a hitch.
For my first 6 Pro that I sent back for a screen issue, the support person seemed to have no idea what I was talking about as they were asking if I modified the screen or the underside of the screen? Nonetheless they issued an Advanced RMA and I got it and sent the old unit back without problems.
But as I have been noticing, I think their support has been outsourced now, they are short staffed and it seems "escalating" just means it will get passed on to the next support person. The last time I called, I could barely hear the support person because you could hear everyone else in the call center too. I don't recall having this same experience on my previous phones years ago.
Have you tried calling instead of email? Keep trying until you get an Agent that is willing to help. If anything, try to tweet them at @madebygoogle with your issue and see if that gets the ball rolling.
If you do a charge back they can block access to your google account so make sure you back everything up and take it out of google if you absolutely have to do this.
Good advice above on the charge back. I have heard of that happening.
Google employees don't so support, they farm support, shipping and repair out to Ingram. They suck.
Bummer! It's needle in a hay stack to get good googleeeee support all in one place!
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I am sorry that you had to go through this. I read someone else's experience which was similar on the Google Pixel reddit. Not sure if you posted there too but there are a few others who have either gotten damaged phones or received empty boxes and they stated Google would just escalate the issue, back and forth several times.
From my experience, I've never had an issue with Google support but this was for the Nexus 6p, 2XL, 3XL, and 4XL. Each time an advanced RMA went through without a hitch.
For my first 6 Pro that I sent back for a screen issue, the support person seemed to have no idea what I was talking about as they were asking if I modified the screen or the underside of the screen? Nonetheless they issued an Advanced RMA and I got it and sent the old unit back without problems.
But as I have been noticing, I think their support has been outsourced now, they are short staffed and it seems "escalating" just means it will get passed on to the next support person. The last time I called, I could barely hear the support person because you could hear everyone else in the call center too. I don't recall having this same experience on my previous phones years ago.
Have you tried calling instead of email? Keep trying until you get an Agent that is willing to help. If anything, try to tweet them at @madebygoogle with your issue and see if that gets the ball rolling.
If you do a charge back they can block access to your google account so make sure you back everything up and take it out of google if you absolutely have to do this.
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Yea I first started with email, pretty much got blown off, then I requested a call twice, both times resulting in the same "we will escalate your issue and you'll hear back in 1 or 2 days", and this last time I used chat. Surprisingly, the chat person has been replying to my emails, but still unhelpful as the replied are "your issue has been escalated, please allow us another 1- 3 days to resolve your issue" every 3 days. I just don't understand how a company is allowed to operate in this way. Yes accidents happen and companies sometimes screw up, but then they are quick to own and resolve it. Definitely hasn't been the case here. Especially with doing this right before the holidays when money is tight? I'm comfortable right now, but a lot of people can't afford to have $973 stolen from them.
I just realized I first reached out to Google December 12th after noticing the hold was still on my account 3 days after FedEx tracking confirmed it was shipped and they received it. Still have not been refunded. That means today is day 23 that Google incorrectly stole my money and has not refunded me. 23 days. UNBELIEVABLE. Never EVER buying a Google product from Google again. Sadly a quick Google search reveals my case is not an abnormally. Hopefully their support catches up to them and the company crashes and burns. One can hope. No legit company should be permitted to operate in this way.
I hope that you have proof of your sent-in (pictures of the package, receipt from sending in). I'd probably wait a couple more days (~ 1 month total) and in case they haven't refunded you by then, write them again (e-mail or whatever, always in written form! telephone is worth nothing in front a court, since you can't proof sh*t) and give them a deadline (must be reasonable) to process your case, or else you will go to a lawyer.
As advice for the future (in case you haven't done that already), if you package anything of value - my own minimum is ~150 € - have a witness there when you package the product (friend, mother, whatever - dog will probably not count - if you want to go overkill, prepare a written statement for them (product is in functioning condition, is packed properly, witness to that blabliblup), so they can just sign it to help your case - in case anything goes wrong), best also make a small video / photos of the packaging process. That way you have hard proof and if you go to a lawyer with that, they'll rub their hands and get you your money in no time. It's important that you can prove that you have properly shipped the product.
I know that this sounds "overkill", but you have just experienced why this is important. DHL once destroyed a 4 figures expensive OLED of mine whilst transporting it and only because I prepared proof in advance of the pristine condition of the product, I was able to get 100% of my money back. It will only take a couple minutes - and s*it happens. In 99 of 100 cases, it will not be important and you might "waste" a couple minutes each time. But once you get a problem... you will wish that you made the effort...
By the way, since you talked about bank/reimbursed (disputing the charge through your bank) in your OP post, DO NOT do that. Google will use that as an excuse to shut down all your Google accounts, since "the relationship of trust with the customer is disturbed" - or something along the lines of that. If they don't act within a reasonable time frame given, get a lawyer. Do not act on your own and DO NOT remove money from Googles account. That will instantly create red flags in your profile and will permanently damage your standing with that company. And since Google is just a small indie company, you might not care about that. But... You know where I'm going with this.
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I just realized I first reached out to Google December 12th after noticing the hold was still on my account 3 days after FedEx tracking confirmed it was shipped and they received it. Still have not been refunded. That means today is day 23 that Google incorrectly stole my money and has not refunded me. 23 days. UNBELIEVABLE. Never EVER buying a Google product from Google again. Sadly a quick Google search reveals my case is not an abnormally. Hopefully their support catches up to them and the company crashes and burns. One can hope. No legit company should be permitted to operate in this way.
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So you didn't get charged but have a hold on the amount, right? Don't banks remove a hold after a certain number of days? I'd start with them. As for destroying your Google account, they used to do that when Google was running the return/support process. Now they have outsourced it and I wonder if they will still do that. I haven't seen current reports on that but you can check Reddit for all the down and dirty stuff like that.
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I hope that you have proof of your sent-in (pictures of the package, receipt from sending in). I'd probably wait a couple more days (~ 1 month total) and in case they haven't refunded you by then, write them again (e-mail or whatever, always in written form! telephone is worth nothing in front a court, since you can't proof sh*t) and give them a deadline (must be reasonable) to process your case, or else you will go to a lawyer.
As advice for the future (in case you haven't done that already), if you package anything of value - my own minimum is ~150 € - have a witness there when you package the product (friend, mother, whatever - dog will probably not count - if you want to go overkill, prepare a written statement for them (product is in functioning condition, is packed properly, witness to that blabliblup), so they can just sign it to help your case - in case anything goes wrong), best also make a small video / photos of the packaging process. That way you have hard proof and if you go to a lawyer with that, they'll rub their hands and get you your money in no time. It's important that you can prove that you have properly shipped the product.
I know that this sounds "overkill", but you have just experienced why this is important. DHL once destroyed a 4 figures expensive OLED of mine whilst transporting it and only because I prepared proof in advance of the pristine condition of the product, I was able to get 100% of my money back. It will only take a couple minutes - and s*it happens. In 99 of 100 cases, it will not be important and you might "waste" a couple minutes each time. But once you get a problem... you will wish that you made the effort...
By the way, since you talked about bank/reimbursed (disputing the charge through your bank) in your OP post, DO NOT do that. Google will use that as an excuse to shut down all your Google accounts, since "the relationship of trust with the customer is disturbed" - or something along the lines of that. If they don't act within a reasonable time frame given, get a lawyer. Do not act on your own and DO NOT remove money from Googles account. That will instantly create red flags in your profile and will permanently damage your standing with that company. And since Google is just a small indie company, you might not care about that. But... You know where I'm going with this.
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Thanks. Appreciate the feedback and advice. You know, you are 100 percent correct with sending things back. No one really thinks about it because a majority of the time it goes smoothly, but when there are issues it's extremely difficult to prove and any extra steps/precautions would be critical. I will start doing this going forward as I am a very precautions person and have little trust in the way everything operates nowadays.
I finally got an email from Google a few hours ago saying they were "processing a refund". Disturbing part is it says it can take up to 14 days. So hopefully at this point it's resolved and the money shows up. I notified my bank to seize looking into this matter for now and hold the claim to avoid any issues you mentioned. What an absolute nightmare. I truly can't understand how they are a successful lucrative company and have support comparable to a kindergarten student at a lemonade stand.
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So you didn't get charged but have a hold on the amount, right? Don't banks remove a hold after a certain number of days? I'd start with them. As for destroying your Google account, they used to do that when Google was running the return/support process. Now they have outsourced it and I wonder if they will still do that. I haven't seen current reports on that but you can check Reddit for all the down and dirty stuff like that.
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At first it was a hold until December 16th when they sent an email saying they never received it and it turned into a legit charge. Unreal, but finally seem to be making progress as per my last post.
I did a quick search and man... It's disturbing to see how common this is. I mean how can a company operate this way and yet still generate hundreds of millions in revenue? Blows my mind.
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I did a quick search and man... It's disturbing to see how common this is. I mean how can a company operate this way and yet still generate hundreds of millions in revenue? Blows my mind.
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Do a search for Samsung, Apple, (insert name of company here) and you will find the same results. It's just the way it is and always has been. Just much more pronounced now in this day of covid and people not working and everyone understaffed.
Yes, my experience with Google warranty was very similar.
The problem is these ass clowns are using FedEx Ground and they take their sweet ass time. Not only with this shipment but literally every shipment for me that's ever touched their system for the last year has been delayed. If not stated no delivery information available, what???
I used to work for FedEx Express. There was pride in there their work ethic and getting people their stuff typically within minutes of the commitment time at the latest. Now they just don't give AF.
Yes, they charged my card too. I called fraud and had them reach out to FedEx Ground and fix their lazy delivery style.
In addition, Google was very slow to admit that my old phone was overheating from no user error whatsoever. That process took two months. They definitely didn't send me a replacement that was an unlocked bootloader.
What a nightmare.
I bought an open box 6 Pro from Best Buy and it randomly decides to have a stuck green pixel and a giant line across the screen. Trying to exchange it has been hell because it has to be another open box and they are hard to catch but I managed to today. The phone rep guy just added it to my original order and it's gonna be here tuesday. No mention of returning the one I have.