has anyone had a problem like this? i have had pretty awful battery life overall and bought the extended battery. have been having consistent battery life until today. i am constantly getting a battery drain today with minimal usage of the phone. i have probably lost like 50% of the battery today with the screen off and not being used. havent downloaded anything except amazon's app of the day this morning, which i subsequently uninstalled. haven't played any games, viewed maybe 10 web pages, sent about 100 sms messages, uploaded 3 pictures to the web (from the phone). most data usage was on wireless. cant figure out anything in particular that i thought would do it. bought modern combat 2, nova 2 hd and some other gameloft game yesterday but downloaded the files for them yesterday. tried rebooting with no difference after i rebooted.
anyone else have any insight? thanks!
Have you checked your battery usage in settings?
screen and android OS are the most, which is what it usually shows. nothing else unusual shows up and nothing suspicious is on the list either
Try opening the camera app, and closing it again.
I've had the phone for near a week now and this is the first time doze has failed me. Left it alone at 10pm with about 50% left and looks like it went to zero in about four hours. (screenshot) I've tested other nights and it worked as expected -- wifi and cell coming on and off periodically. When checking usage, I was disturbed to find Facebook took up 25% of my battery. Is there some way Facebook is overriding doze?
dipson626 said:
I've had the phone for near a week now and this is the first time doze has failed me. Left it alone at 10pm with about 50% left and looks like it went to zero in about four hours. (screenshot) I've tested other nights and it worked as expected -- wifi and cell coming on and off periodically. When checking usage, I was disturbed to find Facebook took up 25% of my battery. Is there some way Facebook is overriding doze?
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Wow. Looks like it was constantly awake during that time. You didn't happen to turn on photo syncing with Facebook?
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Facebook is one of the worst when it comes to battery drains, I stopped using it and i just use a browser to stay logged in. Snapchat is also pretty bad, I think it was top 3 in my list while I slept earlier. First time happening, i turned off location on snapchat, ill see if that helps
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Facebook is one of the worst when it comes to battery drains, I stopped using it and i just use a browser to stay logged in. Snapchat is also pretty bad, I think it was top 3 in my list while I slept earlier. First time happening, i turned off location on snapchat, ill see if that helps
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Same here. Facebook did this to me back when I had an HTC Hero, killed my battery in 8 hours no problem. The moment they changed the application to a "service" and had those wake-lock bugs I ditched it, never looked back.
No application should install itself as an always-on service unless its there for push messages. I decided that having my phone last all day was more important than getting facebook messages immediately.
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Wow. Looks like it was constantly awake during that time. You didn't happen to turn on photo syncing with Facebook?
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Yea, it looks like it was constantly connected. Don't have photo syncing, but good thought.
btort1 said:
Facebook is one of the worst when it comes to battery drains, I stopped using it and i just use a browser to stay logged in. Snapchat is also pretty bad, I think it was top 3 in my list while I slept earlier. First time happening, i turned off location on snapchat, ill see if that helps
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I stopped using Snapchat a while ago for that reason. Facebook, however, never really gave me a problem on my N6. It usually hovered around 6-7% use. No app is worth that much drain, let alone Facebook. If this is a normal occurrence, I'll probably just uninstall it.
ryan stewart said:
Same here. Facebook did this to me back when I had an HTC Hero, killed my battery in 8 hours no problem. The moment they changed the application to a "service" and had those wake-lock bugs I ditched it, never looked back.
No application should install itself as an always-on service unless its there for push messages. I decided that having my phone last all day was more important than getting facebook messages immediately.
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Hopefully this was a one time occurrence since it worked fine on my N6. I've got no problem getting rid of it though, because like you said, I'd rather have my phone last all day (or night in this case).
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While I agree the Facebook app is bad, it looks like it was not the culprit. Uninstalled, doze again failed to kick in overnight and drained 18% over about seven hours. Not as bad as the 50% the first time, but still no bueno. It looks like Android OS kept it awake for seven hours. I know doze is pretty new, but there are some smart people here; anyone got any ideas/theories as to what's going on and remedy? Screenshots
I'm experiencing the same EXACT issues except I don't have Facebook installed
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I'm experiencing the same EXACT issues except I don't have Facebook installed
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Good to know I'm not alone! Even after uninstalling Facebook I've got the same problem with Android OS keeping it on. I'm considering clearing the cache and see if that changes anything.
Wow you have a perfectly diagonal line. Try a battery monitoring app. Might have more useful information as to what is draining overnight.
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I did a factory reset and installed ~10 of my most used apps instead of restoring all apps and it's been sleeping fine now, no wakelocks
I also turned off WiFi and Bluetooth scanning, location services are on battery saving, and Google location reporting is off
I am willing to bet there are going to be some hiccups with marshmallow or even some newer hardware features of the phone and some apps until everything gets up to speed.
Just wondering, what build are you guys on? MDA89E or MDB08I?? I'm on MDA89E
I got 08I immediately after turning it on, Ive always lost like 1-2% overnight.
Maybe that is what the last-minute update was for, fixing that bug that you (unfortunately) found.
Since two days my op3 battery is draining in no time . I do use mobile data ,it stays on all the time but the drain is now sudden it wasn't like this few days back I thought its some app ..i don't undersrand why Google photos is taking so much of battery ..for background uploads it shouldn't be on top of list .
See the screenshot and in few hours I am down to 13 from full charge ...
Very weird
Reinstall it.. it keeps wake looking your device.. its not even sleeping.
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Since two days my op3 battery is draining in no time . I do use mobile data ,it stays on all the time but the drain is now sudden it wasn't like this few days back I thought its some app ..i don't undersrand why Google photos is taking so much of battery ..for background uploads it shouldn't be on top of list .
See the screenshot and in few hours I am down to 13 from full charge ...
Very weird
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Google photos turns into nightmare sometimes. It sometimes eats data like a cake and drains battery. Reinstall it as said by another guy. Your device was continuously awake during entire period.
If you do have lots of pictures on phone or online on Google cloud, combined with a poor Internet connection, thats happening on photos. In the background it tries to download your cached pictures on phone as well uploading the ones from your gallery. It's a common "bug" I got in many picture managers with cloud storage. Had that with Dropbox, Quickpic and Photos from Google too... Sometimes even a clear data on them and/or cache can solve the problem.
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And I thought updating apps was the sole defaulter .
Removed Google photos and the drain is no more ... Will not install it back for few weeks now
Thanks folks
Dr-Hack said:
And I thought updating apps was the sole defaulter .
Removed Google photos and the drain is no more ... Will not install it back for few weeks now
Thanks folks
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Thats not a problem.. just reinstall it and see if its still messing around since these bugs are rare..
Hey all, I've had this phone for a while now and I've been loving the performance and the battery life.
But since yesterday a problem came up. Normally i get around 8-11 hours of Screen on time. Now some "Android OS" is draining the battery real fast like it's cutting it down to 5 hours screen on time with the same amount of usage.
I've tried closing the apps, doesn't seem to fix the problem.
Just to back up the post, Its not android system. That's different and it doesn't consume battery this much. It's something called "Android OS" and its running continuously off screen as well.
It's also using a lot of RAM :/
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It's also using a lot of RAM :/
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Try reboot, see if it goes away.
Did you talk for an hour and forty two minutes? Butt dial someone? Bad signal?
larsdennert said:
Did you talk for an hour and forty two minutes? Butt dial someone? Bad signal?
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No xD i fixed it deleted all the apps. Didn't know which one was problematic but it seems to have fixed the problem. I'm actually getting double battery life now xD
My poor MZP has suddenly started showing a dramatic drop in performance and battery life. I suspect this is because of Magisto which had a setting that automatically uploads videos / photos to create movies. I've disabled this now and hope to see an improvement.
I've also deleted all apps that were very aggressive with notifications - The Domino's India app was the worst offender.
Hopefully this will make a difference.
I have had my P20 for about three month now... and it's OK but the Huawei "enhancements" and some other things are very frustrating.
1) Almost none of my "background" stuff works... Meaning things like Google Photo backup, SMS Backup & Restore scheduled backups, and other scheduled services don't run until I open the apps. Not much good to have automatic backups if they aren't automatic. Also, Google Rewards does not notify me of new surveys. Things that happen in the background seems to happen for a short time after you open the app, then they just stop.
2) Multitasking is a joke... On my old Moto G5+, I could have Facebook, Candy Crush Saga (don't judge, I have invested too much time to quit), Pandora, MeWe, Gmail, Messenger, Nine Mail, and a host of other apps running with no issues switching back and forth without them "reloading". On my P20 with the same RAM and supposedly a faster processor, if I am in Candy Crush Saga and switch to Facebook, then switch back, Candy Crush reloads when I was in the middle of level... Much less trying to have Pandora or a few other things going simultaneously. And yet I typically have 1.8-2.1GB of RAM available, it's impossible to actually multitask without apps restarting constantly.
3) Delayed or no notifications... From most apps... Gmail, Facebook, XDA, Nine (a real problem, this is my work email), Calendar, etc. Almost every app that isn't open gives delayed notification, sometimes a minute or two, sometimes hours, sometimes not until it is opened. Other times notifications show up, but no sound is given at all.
These things all seem to be related to how aggressive the memory and application management is to maintain the battery... Sort of making up for the hardware's inefficiencies through software. But it works, battery life is quite good.
4) Inability to change "default" apps like the Gallery... I hate the Gallery, but I love Google Photos as the "gallery" app. You can change it in the settings to the default, but few applications "honor" that setting. And for some reason the Gallery doesn't see all the photos I download with Photos. Weird... And even when you set other non-Huawei apps as defaults, it only works sometimes. This goes back to EMUI's software framework I think. Never had this issue on Motos, Nokias, Pixels, etc.
5) More of an annoyance than anything else, but what the heck is with the lock screen wallpaper? I can't get rid of the Huawei papers, they show up no matter what I do or how many of my own I add, the stock ones keep showing up. I have gone into the lock screen settings and disabled ALL of the embedded ones, and only my folder of about 50 or so images, and I keep getting the stock Huawei ones show up in the rotation.
Then there is the lockups... For example, open Google and search for something, switch to images, and maybe turn on GIF filter or something... This thing will grind to a halt in nothing flat, granted my old Moto would lag a bit, but it was 100 times better than this thing. I get the same thing in some apps but not others without consistency. Or if my UC-One app for work rings, sometimes it works, other times it locks up tight and needs a hard reboot to recover... No other phone out of the 80 or so at work does this. It's just so inconsistent.
And my last gripe is the data lag... At random times, regardless if on mobile data or WiFi, it will just lag out for 10 seconds to 2 minutes, usually once or twice a day, but not consistently... Everything looks fine, good signal strength regardless of source and other devices work fine, but no data will be moving and videos freeze and buffer, Facebook pictures don't load, etc. Granted, this really started after the May 2019 update.
It sounds like I hate this phone, but I do like a lot of things about it... The battery life if good, the charge times are good, the camera is excellent, the sound quality is acceptable, nice screen, not too big or overweight. But man, that new Pixel 3a XL at $20/month is sure looking pretty good.
Am I all alone here, or do others have the same issues?
Oh dude. 99 % of things you mentioned can be handled in the phone settings like telling phone not to shut apps in the background. You should Google before you write things down.
Ragarding your last point with lag: try doing a soft reset and install you carrier settings once again.
I've got the phone for half a year now and after searching and changing some settings it works better than anything else I've seen on a phone I paid 350 EUR for.
EuBir said:
Oh dude. 99 % of things you mentioned can be handled in the phone settings like telling phone not to shut apps in the background. You should Google before you write things down.
Ragarding your last point with lag: try doing a soft reset and install you carrier settings once again.
I've got the phone for half a year now and after searching and changing some settings it works better than anything else I've seen on a phone I paid 350 EUR for.
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I take no offense from your comment, but I am not a noob... I have been working with Android since Eclair and smartphones in general much longer, including working on several ROM development teams and am an RC here. I did Google and DID turn off Huawei's "App Launch" management that I assume you are talking about trying to stop the optimizations from EMUI, and a few other things, but this is AFTER that. Although some of them seemed to help a little, it doesn't fix the problems.
Not only have I soft reset, I have done complete factory resets and all of my carrier settings are current... The lag also occurs on WiFi.
My post was kind of a rant, not necessarily looking for a solution unless there was one, and I was looking to see if I was the only one with these issues. Nor am I saying this isn't a good phone... Many of the things I have talked about would not bother many people.
In my case, I'm happy with the phone. Obviously I had some other problem, especially in some of the points you mentioned in the post. As the backup of Google Photos that did not work, but when I opened the app. However, selecting that all applications start manually has worked correctly for me.
I have disabled several applications using ADB. I know it does not erase them definitively, but hey, it's something. I also hate or just do not like the amount of applications that the phone has installed, I see them as unnecessary. I've always tried to use Google apps: calendar, dialer, calculator, clock, contacts, file manager, keep notes, etc. (that means I also disabled the original dialer).
But there is something that haunts me since I upgraded to EMUI 9. And it is a bug in recent applications that has a blue shadow that only appears when using a launcher. As I read, the solution is to disable the EMUI launcher, I did it once, but I prefer the appearance of recent applications of EMUI 9 than the previous ones. (Although I believe that this is poorly implemented).
Disable Huawei power genie app. I think it will solve all your problems with background apps.
You can find instructions online.
Your battery will take a small hit.
The biggest issue is the wifi, very capricious
I have no problem watching a 1080p stream on twitch... but loading the newsfeed on FB, twitter, is sometimes impossible. I have to switch to 4g to load the newsfeed and it's very annoying ... Sometimes i can browse the internet for 5minutes, then nothing would load, for no reason ...
The battery management settings is also very aggressive, and notifications often displayed 1h, 2h late. Occasionally i get a "1 message from " " ... 1 day" on messenger app
One thing i really miss is viper4audio ... I did everything, i can't get this thing to work.
Appart from that, it's a good medium range phone.
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The biggest issue is the wifi, very capricious
I have no problem watching a 1080p stream on twitch... but loading the newsfeed on FB, twitter, is sometimes impossible. I have to switch to 4g to load the newsfeed and it's very annoying ... Sometimes i can browse the internet for 5minutes, then nothing would load, for no reason ...
The battery management settings is also very aggressive, and notifications often displayed 1h, 2h late. Occasionally i get a "1 message from " " ... 1 day" on messenger app
One thing i really miss is viper4audio ... I did everything, i can't get this thing to work.
Appart from that, it's a good medium range phone.
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I don't know what phone you have.I think you are on a wrong thread.This is for Huawei P20 which is a premium phone not a midrange phone.
It's not a 800€+ phone, and there's the p20 pro. I bought it for 379€ in europe, just a month after it's release. So for me it's more a medium range phone ^^ the top medium range
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Disable Huawei power genie app. I think it will solve all your problems with background apps.
You can find instructions online.
Your battery will take a small hit.
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Thank you so much for this. I was so tired of having to reload recent apps. It was so bad on my phone that just switching between 2 apps would close the first.
maxime4611 said:
It's not a 800€+ phone, and there's the p20 pro. I bought it for 379€ in europe, just a month after it's release. So for me it's more a medium range phone ^^ the top medium range
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Well,for me there are the specifications that make a phone premium/midrange or entry-level.The P20 has specifications that matches a premium 2018 phone.If you were so lucky to find a new P20 in spring 2018 for less than 400 euros,good for you.
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Disable Huawei power genie app. I think it will solve all your problems with background apps.
You can find instructions online.
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Ryandos said:
Thank you so much for this. I was so tired of having to reload recent apps. It was so bad on my phone that just switching between 2 apps would close the first.
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You don't need to disable the Power Genius app, it can actually do some good... disabling it is functionally equivalent to going to Settings -> Battery -> App Launch and turning off "Manage All Automatically" and that will leave you like most other Android device with the kernel managing everything.
I disabled this at first after @costindaemon mentioned it, but Gmail app notifications, especially for non-Gmail accounts, got wonky... So I re-enabled Power Genius but turned it off as I stated above, then went through the apps and turned some on that I wanted "suppressed"... Gmail is an enigma here though, if it's management is turned off I had issues with notifications and accounts, and in App Launch it had a warning saying something like that, so I turned it on for that app and it's been good since. I have since just monitored the usage with GSAM's App Sucker and anything high on the battery usage list that I didn't want I turned on the Manage Automatically for that app and it no longer misbehaved. Think I have found the happy medium here.
I still have some issues with the phone, most just annoyances now... not to the level of frustration I was at before though. Still looking at that Pixel 3a XL though... it's in the cart, financing approved, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger yet. lol
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You don't need to disable the Power Genius app, it can actually do some good...
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You're right. I made a mistake in thinking that disabling power genie worked, when in reality it was just rebooting my phone that temporarily fixed the problem.
I did a bit of googling into a "ram leak" on the P20 and it was actually because I was using a 3rd party launcher (Nova). The solution was to disable the stock Huawei launcher, and since I did that 2 days ago my free ram has not gone below 1000mb. I've installed another launcher in case Nova mucks up.
But it looks like you've moved onto the 3a now, hopefully it's better than the awful software experience that comes with this phone xD. I definitely won't be buying Huawei in the future.
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You're right. I made a mistake in thinking that disabling power genie worked, when in reality it was just rebooting my phone that temporarily fixed the problem.
I did a bit of googling into a "ram leak" on the P20 and it was actually because I was using a 3rd party launcher (Nova). The solution was to disable the stock Huawei launcher, and since I did that 2 days ago my free ram has not gone below 1000mb. I've installed another launcher in case Nova mucks up.
But it looks like you've moved onto the 3a now, hopefully it's better than the awful software experience that comes with this phone xD. I definitely won't be buying Huawei in the future.
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Yeah, I got my Pixel on Monday... Already think it's 10 times better, except the camera. That 2x "optical zoom" was damn nice although the Pixel's pictures seem a better quality even though they take longer to process. For the camera, I'm still giving the edge to the Pixel but I haven't played with it much yet.
All my issues are gone now and battery life is noticeably better. The Huawei will be going up on the local classified ad sites soon, hopefully the market for them isn't completely tanked.
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Your lockscreen issue is solved by deleting the excess wallpapers from the lockscreen. As you cycle into the first one, tap it and...
Any issues you have don't exist for me. Likely because i always first disable/uninstall most major google apps immediately.
Any problems i've noticed don't appear to me as device specific but rather OS related. To me, this thing performs quite well with impressively low battery drain by comparison.