Question CPU throttling/overheating

Question CPU throttling/overheating - Google Pixel 6 Pro

Hope this is fixable by software upgrade, looks to be aggressively throttling
https://www.gadgetguy.com.au/google-pixel-6-and-6-pro-shootout-review/
Google Pixel 6 Pro Review: Fantastic everyday phone with an undeniable Exynos inspiration
The Google Pixel 6 Pro is a fantastic everyday phone with an undeniable Exynos inspiration, though that isn't a bad thing. Read our review!
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Overall battery life isn't very good according to that review as well..

I have not had any issues with benchmarking on my pixel 6 pro. The temps are cooler than my galaxy z fold 3 under load. Try one from your carrier and if you don't like it than return it within the time they give you to test it.

Thanks, I know it is not an issue for me. More and more sites are reporting this during their review.
https://mightygadget.co.uk/google-tensor-benchmarks/
I doubt it is a difference between units but whether you stress the device long enough to reduce it's performance.

Hello has anyone tried installing googlefier in recent times?

Everything gets hot and throttles via 4g, not even 5g, it's all good on WiFi but on 4g things get bad I can't game at all, even on low settings on cod it's still quite bad, it becomes unplayable after 15/20 mins

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Nexus 5x- still worth it?

Hello, I am looking for new phone and 5x looks pretty good. I don't need ultra fast CPU for gaming. Just for fluent usage during the day, with a decent battery and good camera quality. Are you satisfied and would you recommend this phone? Does it have some software problems or bugs?
Thank you and sorry for my English

If it had 3 or 4 GB RAM then I wouldn't hesitate. As it stands, it's a little frustrating with multitasking at times. It's quite sporadic where sometimes it seems to hold 3 or 4 apps that you're using in memory without any trouble. Other times you use one app, switch to another, then switch back to the first app and it's gone. I would imagine with a 3GB phone that would not be an issue.
Performance in other ways is just fine without complaints. The Nougat update seems pretty good to me - no major bugs to report and battery life genuinely improved to make it acceptable.

sidofido said:
Hello, I am looking for new phone and 5x looks pretty good. I don't need ultra fast CPU for gaming. Just for fluent usage during the day, with a decent battery and good camera quality. Are you satisfied and would you recommend this phone? Does it have some software problems or bugs?
Thank you and sorry for my English
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Hello, I am using the nexus 5x for about 7 months now and I am totally satisfied with its performance.I use it mostly for internet(like chat, reading articles, watching videos) but never used it for games. In heavy games it will lag a little but for daily use it is very smooth.The processor is powerful enough for every use except heavy gaming. I tell you in bullets the pros and cons soo you can decide.
Pros:
- Great Camera: Best out there in this budget category and good enough in low light with LED Flash.
- Overall Speed and Smoothness: Google will give you the fastest android experience because of clean Android ROM.
- Updates Until September 2017: Which probably means you will get Android O (8.0) (Nexus 5x was the first phone that had Android Nougat 7.0 installed. And security updates until September 2018. Google will also update all your system apps like phone messages contacts and other so it adds functionality by the time whick is also great.
Cons:
- Battery stamina: It is not quite the best, more like average I would say. I get about 3-4 Hours of Screen on Time. If you use it with 4g it can barely stand out for a day. If you make medium usage you can have 2 days max.
- It gets a little hot quite easy: Especially on summer the phone will heat up really quick if you are on Internet about 5minutes but it won't be a problem cause its stable. The phone will become a little slower in order to low its temperature.
- Wouldn't be bad if it had 3GB of RAM for better multitasking. With 2GB you can have about 3 apps in memory.
Overall: I would say it's a good choice for its money, especially now that you can buy it for almost half the price it had when released.

Thank you guys for your answers. I will probably buy it

Given how expensive the just announced Pixels are going to be I would grab a 5X 32G while you can. I'd expect them to be $250USD or less new while you can get new ones. The Pixel's start at $649USD. I plan to use my 5X as long as possible or until I see a significant drop on the Pixel. Not sure if that will happen since it appears Google now believes that they need to convince buyers that phones have to be ridiculously expensive to be considered good.
You can still get them from Google but only through the project Fi page https://fi.google.com/about/phones/ Not sure if Fi is available where you are or not but if it is it can be a great way to go.

I was in the same boat, I didn't mind the price of the new Pixels but IMHO it smells of them going down the Nexus road then deciding to pivot to Pixel. But not having enough time to work with an ODM (like they do with their own servers and switches) and had to go with HTC (since they would be more willing to sell them a version of their phones un-branded). So I'm not a fan of the huge bezels or some of the other missing features. I will wait until next year when they can really design the phone from the ground up and it will be the real Google Pixel. I almost went with Motorola/Lenovo but the unfortunate decisions they have made lately has really turned me off of them. So I was looking for a phone that would last me at least one year and I ran into an great deal on a NIB 32gb 5X so I snapped it up (just got it yesterday).
Yes it's not the best battery life but I lived with a Nexus 5's less then stellar battery life and that was one of my favorite phones. So far I'm very impressed, it's more then good enough and the issues are relatively minor. Very happy with it so far.

what's the performance like?

With only 4GB of RAM, is this enough?? I mostly use social media and media consumption such as Netflix mostly however I don't know if this will suffice

its better than my pocophone for real i was skeptical cause of the ram and cpu but as soon as i got the phone i tried the heaviest game i have ever played Silent Hill Shattered Memories on ppsspp emulator for android.And i was surprised how smooth it was smother than the poco ,i made it run on opengl not vulkan mind you cause of that beefy gpu that the pixel has.Navigating is almost a breeze with the new android q beta and i hope it becomes smoother in the next beta.All and all my fav phone to date

I have to say I was worried about the same thing, coming from the OnePlus 6t I knew I was going to make sacrifices. But to be honest this phone is a beast, great battery life, very fluid, great os and cera is top notch . only thing I notice is opening apps is just a hair slower but nothing crazy milliseconds
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk

I always got flagships but then I got this one. It's more than good enough. It only does something a second slower when it comes to photo processing.
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Performance is out standing imop. Better than the G7 I had.. Yes the screen resolution is not that great, but then again, I never utilized the different screen settings on my G7.. I also used adb and removed some of the garbage in the phone I don't like or use... I removed the calender, calculator, pixel tips, and 4 things in my phone that had to do with Verizon, on a Sprint phone. I wish I could customize it, but at the time did not know about the retail version being pretty much the same price and the carrier version.

Very good... I came from a Huawei P20 and this is much faster. I've had zero issues with performance.

How bad is the S20+ Exynos really?

Hi guys,
I understand there are many threads regarding this, and I've spent pretty much the entire day scouring through them, but I still see conflicting information and I want a definitive answer as to whether I should cancel my order of the Galaxy S20+ Exynos. I also wanted to ask a few questions which don't seem to get asked in any other threads.
So my first primary question is: is the S20+ Exynos really that bad? Coming from a Galaxy S8 and the price being quite expensive on contract, am I likely to entirely regret the purchase? Will I still see a significant improvement in terms of battery life and thermals compared to my S8?
I'm generally not a huge power user; would maybe play the occasional game of CODM or Antimatter Dimensions (Pretty much an idle game, so I doubt it'd cause any throttling, but from what I've heard of some users experiencing heat problems when scrolling through Facebook, I wouldn't be surprised.) The one thing that has me on the fence is the lack of consistency; I've read loads of threads talking about it's issues, but then loads of people saying they love the phone and are getting pretty good battery life with it, saying they are on Exynos. I'm wondering whether the whole thing is blown out of proportion or is it completely justified?
One point which I haven't really saw people mention is that originally people were saying that the device 'learns your usage'; the phone has been out for 2 months now, has anyone noticed any significant difference in battery life/thermals?
Another point that I was wondering that I don't really see mentioned is any update to fix the issue; is it possible to fix these issues with software updates? I understand that there's the fix for the green screen issue, but I'm more concerned about the battery life and thermals.
I'm really at a loss here. There doesn't really seem to be any other phone that appeals to me other than the S20+ that I can buy on a carrier that gets good signal where I live, apart from maybe the iPhone 11 Pro, but that is quite a bit more expensive. I'm even debating just getting the normal iPhone 11, but the LCD screen is putting me off. I really don't want to spend this much money on a phone only for the performance and battery life to be so badly hindered.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sammy Fanboi here who, until the S20 had every samsung flagship since S4, I also had Note Series devices. And every device got hate about something... really every device always has some mini scandal/gate... I never saw those flaws on those devices or better said they never affected me. But this time, most things said is unfortunately true.
My issues:
Thermals. This is big because thermals are very important on every device not only phones. If the brains is negatively affected it can't operate at it's full potential and everything suffers from it.
The S20 exynos gets hot very easily and fast which means no 120Hz which is a main feature that you can't use anymore! Oh you wanna play games? ok have fun for 10 minutes because after those 10 minutes you get teleported back a few years and you now playing on s S7. Everything stutters frames start dropping and you notice the change obviously instantly from from the smooth gameplay before. Now you get frustrated and stop playing. This happens faster in warm climates like right now. This happens on everything that stresses the SOC not even in a very extreme way but just medium and over a longer period. And this issue is real.
Besides the fact that there are S20's in the world with SD SOC's that cost the same and don't have this issue or are even more capable is just not fair and such ****ty move from sammy.
But SD S20's are not perfect either, they also suffer when compared to other devices with the SD865! There is this youtube channel called techutopia or something which does emulator tests and he tested in a video 3 SD865 devices and the S20 performed the worst even with the same SOC because of sammys bad thermals!
For this reason alone I would skip the S20 exynos or even the S20 series all together.
Battery is the same on every device of mine! No difference there. Every device I owned get's me trough the day without a problem but I have to charge overnight. No change in that. But don't expect the S20+ to deliver any miracles.
Display seems ok on mine no crazy green tint issue like some people post where the display looks like some cheap lcd with extreme green clouding issues. My Display looks like it changes it's color profile at lower brightness settings on a gray background but at least no clouding. OLED lottery...

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chieco said:
Sammy Fanboi here who, until the S20 had every samsung flagship since S4, I also had Note Series devices. And every device got hate about something... really every device always has some mini scandal/gate... I never saw those flaws on those devices or better said they never affected me. But this time, most things said is unfortunately true.
My issues:
Thermals. This is big because thermals are very important on every device not only phones. If the brains is negatively affected it can't operate at it's full potential and everything suffers from it.
The S20 exynos gets hot very easily and fast which means no 120Hz which is a main feature that you can't use anymore! Oh you wanna play games? ok have fun for 10 minutes because after those 10 minutes you get teleported back a few years and you now playing on s S7. Everything stutters frames start dropping and you notice the change obviously instantly from from the smooth gameplay before. Now you get frustrated and stop playing. This happens faster in warm climates like right now. This happens on everything that stresses the SOC not even in a very extreme way but just medium and over a longer period. And this issue is real.
Besides the fact that there are S20's in the world with SD SOC's that cost the same and don't have this issue or are even more capable is just not fair and such ****ty move from sammy.
But SD S20's are not perfect either, they also suffer when compared to other devices with the SD865! There is this youtube channel called techutopia or something which does emulator tests and he tested in a video 3 SD865 devices and the S20 performed the worst even with the same SOC because of sammys bad thermals!
For this reason alone I would skip the S20 exynos or even the S20 series all together.
Battery is the same on every device of mine! No difference there. Every device I owned get's me trough the day without a problem but I have to charge overnight. No change in that. But don't expect the S20+ to deliver any miracles.
Display seems ok on mine no crazy green tint issue like some people post where the display looks like some cheap lcd with extreme green clouding issues. My Display looks like it changes it's color profile at lower brightness settings on a gray background but at least no clouding. OLED lottery...
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Damn.
Honestly, I was hoping for a different answer, but I think this is the answer I needed.
I've been with Samsung since the S6, got the S7 Edge and then S8 and had no real reason to upgrade since that as it's just been such a perfect phone. Samsung have lost a pretty easy sale here and if this issue didn't exist then I would've been happily using an S20+ right now.
Honestly I don't know what to do from here in terms of my phone; I've never owned an iPhone, and never even thought about buying one until now, but the iPhone 11 or XS are the only phones other than the S20+ that really appeal to me. I would be looking at the OP8 but it's not available on contract with O2. I'm tempted to just keep my S8 until a phone that does appeal to me comes out, but I don't know how much life my S8 still has in it as I've had it for over 2 1/2 years; it seems to be doing alright for now but with some noticeable slow down. One thing I will say is that the S8 has been a damn near exceptional phone and made me a loyal Samsung customer, but this has just completely backtracked that.
Thanks for the post, it was a great help. Definitely going to cancel my order and have a think about other options.

I have an S20+, and personally while I'd "prefer" the SD version, for me the Exynos is not as bad as some people make out.
Yes, the SD version is faster in benchmarks, but the reality is in day to day use who is going to actually notice? And yes, while it's not as quick as the SD, it's not exactly a "slow" chip.
I had the reboot issue at the start, but this has been fixed for me with a software update.
As I said given the choice, I'd have picked the SD version, but we are talking about is it really THAT BAD here, right?
I don't game much on my phone, but I do everything else pretty heavily and my phone never even feels warm in general use. I have read some people say their devices get hot just browsing, watching Youtube etc.
Mine has never even got mildly warm watching Youtube or in general use... I even tested it and it's temp hovered about 34c in use, while at idle it was 31c. This makes me wonder if there's something else going on there? Ie: Configuration issue? Or if maybe not all Exynos 990's are equal? I can't answer that.
I have spent some time tuning the phone, as I do with every phone I have, and I've been generally happy overall. If I run at 96hz I regularly get 7.5hr to 8hr+ SOT a day, after more updates and tweaking, at 120hz I can get 6.5hrs to 7hrs SOT. As I said, I take to time to optimise every phone I have like this, so I'm not doing anything I wouldn't usually do with another phone here.
Apart from Macro shots (which needs fixing), I've been pretty happy with the camera. While there is always room to improve, I'm sure there will be additional firmware updates which will improve it to some degree again.
Not saying everyone's use and experience will be the same, but I'm just speaking for my personal experience with my S20+.
What I need from a phone is good daily performance, good battery life, and a great screen, and that's what I'm getting.
Would I like the slightly better performance and efficiency of the SD for the same money? Yes obviously.
Is the Exynos 990 "that bad"? For me, no it isn't.

Not bad at all. I got my Exynos S20+ on Wednesday and the battery is very good, it was also ridiculously cheap compared to the Snapdragon version, it gets updates faster, and it has never "overheated" like so many people claim it does. Then again, I'm not an 11 year old whose parents buy him everything and who plays fortnite all day so that may affect one's opinion if they fall into that category. Use basic logic: there's maybe a couple hundred people on the entire internet across all websites whining and complaining about their Exynos S20s having issues, millions of people with these phones around the world, and often times you'll find the people complaining about the Exynos battery life are little kids who play PUBG or Fortnite all day and night and complain their phone won't run 120Hz at max brightness on 5G for 8 hours without recharging. Absolutely nothing wrong with the Exynos, it's a great phone and you can usually find it cheaper if you look because of these few whiners (so I guess we do have something to thank them for!)

Everyone's experience with Exynos varies because everyone uses their phone a little differently. One person may have no issues at all (or relatively minor issues), and another person can't make it through a day without dealing with thermal throttling.
The general consensus is Exynos is an inferior SoC. There is no question about that. But if you don't game a lot, don't record a lot of video and don't plan to use 120 Hz, then chances are you won't be significantly affected by Exynos' poor efficiency. For me, those are a lot of caveats for a $1000+ phone.
You can import a Snapdragon model, but it might not support all the bands used by your carrier, and obviously you won't be able to roll the payments into your monthly phone bill.
I am not trying to talk you out of buying a S20, but you did the right thing by postponing your purchase until you decide it is definitely worth the money. And it sounds like you aren't convinced of that.
If you can't get a Snapdragon S20 but you still want Android, then I strongly recommend looking at OnePlus 8/Pro or 7T, all of which would save you some money. Moving to iPhone is a huge deal if you've invested a lot of money in the Play store. You'll also lose a lot of customizability. iPhones are great if you don't mind having essentially the same phone as every other iPhone owner. But forget about custom launchers, widgets and all the other stuff that makes an Android phone your phone. And get real comfortable with iTunes because you can't do anything to your iPhone without it.

If by inferior you mean it gets higher single core performance and slightly worse multi core performance and sometimes heats up slightly, yeah it's just the worst thing on earth!
S20 buying guide:
Do you play games for several hours straight on your phone and don't care about paying $300+ extra for the Crapdragon chipset? Buy the Crapdragon
Do you want a phone that blows all the competition in the same price range away and do literally anything else with your phone except play games for hours on end? Exynos

Sorry if I jump into the conversation, but it's a topic I'm interested in.
I've read that the Exynos variants have a standby battery drain problem. Is that true?
I'm coming from an S10e which has a BIG standby drain issue (I've experienced nothing like that before), and before buying an S20 I'd like to know if those rumors are true or not.
I'm asking this because I don't use the phone for gaming, so having a phone who can support graphic-intensive games for a long playing time is not a crucial point for me.

Basically:
a) You disable a ton of packages and apps through Package disabler = NO overheating, no lag, only minor frame drops when opening the camera (or I guess something else intensive)
b) You don't = all issues above. I used to drop to 60hz pretty often until I tuned everything up.
I have WiFi, 4G, Bt, Location always ON and the battery is fine for me. About 5h-7h SOT.
Coming from a Pixel 2, I'd advise against the S20+ in pursue of a different phone, mostly OP8 Pro or the Pixel 4 (though I'm unsure about the Pixel). I wouldn't get the iPhone since 120hz is so nice.

Coming from a OnePlus 6, I'd advise you buy an S20+. I can't recommend this phone enough and most of the whiners just need something to complain about and in reality haven't even compared the snapdragon and exynos so they have no basis to claim it's the CPU's fault and not just that the phone in general is not for them.
OnePlus 8 Pro is ridiculously underfeatured and overpriced. The only use I can see it having is if you're an OP fangirl and want to play games 24/7 so you absolutely need the slightly better cooling and qualcomm chipset.

madpete said:
I have an S20+, and personally while I'd "prefer" the SD version, for me the Exynos is not as bad as some people make out.
Yes, the SD version is faster in benchmarks, but the reality is in day to day use who is going to actually notice? And yes, while it's not as quick as the SD, it's not exactly a "slow" chip.
I had the reboot issue at the start, but this has been fixed for me with a software update.
As I said given the choice, I'd have picked the SD version, but we are talking about is it really THAT BAD here, right?
I don't game much on my phone, but I do everything else pretty heavily and my phone never even feels warm in general use. I have read some people say their devices get hot just browsing, watching Youtube etc.
Mine has never even got mildly warm watching Youtube or in general use... I even tested it and it's temp hovered about 34c in use, while at idle it was 31c. This makes me wonder if there's something else going on there? Ie: Configuration issue? Or if maybe not all Exynos 990's are equal? I can't answer that.
I have spent some time tuning the phone, as I do with every phone I have, and I've been generally happy overall. If I run at 96hz I regularly get 7.5hr to 8hr+ SOT a day, after more updates and tweaking, at 120hz I can get 6.5hrs to 7hrs SOT. As I said, I take to time to optimise every phone I have like this, so I'm not doing anything I wouldn't usually do with another phone here.
Apart from Macro shots (which needs fixing), I've been pretty happy with the camera. While there is always room to improve, I'm sure there will be additional firmware updates which will improve it to some degree again.
Not saying everyone's use and experience will be the same, but I'm just speaking for my personal experience with my S20+.
What I need from a phone is good daily performance, good battery life, and a great screen, and that's what I'm getting.
Would I like the slightly better performance and efficiency of the SD for the same money? Yes obviously.
It's the Exynos 990 "that bad"? For me, no it isn't.
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Another great reply, thanks for the help. You see this is what's getting to me: you've got reply above yours pretty much saying do not get it, then others like yours saying it's generally okay. I understand that everyone has different usage for their devices, but with a device this expensive, it should absolutely cover the vast majority of use cases except the heaviest of loads. That's what's stopping me. It's like buying an Audi RS6 and finding that after 5 minutes it's peak power drops to 490bhp because it has bad cooling. While 490bhp isn't in any way bad, you're still losing a lot of power, and an excess of heat is going to cause a problem further down the line which is really putting me off when I wanted to keep this phone for at least 2 years.
TheNetwork said:
If by inferior you mean it gets higher single core performance and slightly worse multi core performance and sometimes heats up slightly, yeah it's just the worst thing on earth!
S20 buying guide:
Do you play games for several hours straight on your phone and don't care about paying $300+ extra for the Crapdragon chipset? Buy the Crapdragon
Do you want a phone that blows all the competition in the same price range away and do literally anything else with your phone except play games for hours on end? Exynos
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As said in my above reply to madpete, that really shouldn't be an issue. I don't play games for hours on end, but it's more about the idea that I have the option to do that if I want to. I have genuinely tried my best to find a way to be happy with buying this phone, spending pretty much all of yesterday researching it and hoping that I find some assurances, but pretty much nothing. The many many speed and thermal tests really don't lie; the Exynos is a bad chip. My question was HOW BAD was it, and did it warrant skipping over the phone, and the answer I got was generally to skip it.
harisyks said:
Basically:
a) You disable a ton of packages and apps through Package disabler = NO overheating, no lag, only minor frame drops when opening the camera (or I guess something else intensive)
b) You don't = all issues above. I used to drop to 60hz pretty often until I tuned everything up.
I have WiFi, 4G, Bt, Location always ON and the battery is fine for me. About 5h-7h SOT.
Coming from a Pixel 2, I'd advise against the S20+ in pursue of a different phone, mostly OP8 Pro or the Pixel 4 (though I'm unsure about the Pixel). I wouldn't get the iPhone since 120hz is so nice.
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I think the OP8 Pro is my top choice right now, but it's not offered by O2, which is the only carrier around me which gets a solid 4G connection indoors. I've been looking into OnePlus' Klarna scheme thing though, as I'd rather split the cost a bit rather than one big cost at once. As for the 120hz: as much as I love high refresh rates, the main thing stopping me from getting the iPhone (11) is that it doesn't have an OLED screen, along with the resolution. I know the joys of scrolling on a 120hz phone very well, but then I go back to my S8 and it just doesn't really matter to me if you get me?
sublimaze said:
Everyone's experience with Exynos varies because everyone uses their phone a little differently. One person may have no issues at all (or relatively minor issues), and another person can't make it through a day without dealing with thermal throttling.
The general consensus is Exynos is an inferior SoC. There is no question about that. But if you don't game a lot, don't record a lot of video and don't plan to use 120 Hz, then chances are you won't be significantly affected by Exynos' poor efficiency. For me, those are a lot of caveats for a $1000+ phone.
You can import a Snapdragon model, but it might not support all the bands used by your carrier, and obviously you won't be able to roll the payments into your monthly phone bill.
I am not trying to talk you out of buying a S20, but you did the right thing by postponing your purchase until you decide it is definitely worth the money. And it sounds like you aren't convinced of that.
If you can't get a Snapdragon S20 but you still want Android, then I strongly recommend looking at OnePlus 8/Pro or 7T, all of which would save you some money. Moving to iPhone is a huge deal if you've invested a lot of money in the Play store. You'll also lose a lot of customizability. iPhones are great if you don't mind having essentially the same phone as every other iPhone owner. But forget about custom launchers, widgets and all the other stuff that makes an Android phone your phone. And get real comfortable with iTunes because you can't do anything to your iPhone without it.
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I'd also love to import a Snapdragon model, but as said above I just don't want to pay everything upfront. Again, I'd absolutely love a OP8, but the lack of carrier support apart from Three in the UK severely affects my decision. As for the iPhone: honestly, if you asked me two years ago if I would ever buy an iPhone I would've 100% say no due to the lack of customisation. Now though? I guess it just doesn't really matter to me anymore. I don't know if it's whether I already like how the S8 is from factory reset (apart from a few changes), but I haven't used Nova in maybe a year or so. Maybe I'm missing some key customisation that I do that an iPhone can't do, I'm just not sure.

Yeah, but does it suffer from standby battery drain? That's a major point, to be honest.
It doesn't matter how you use your phone, if it drains battery just standing there by itself.

NickRaga said:
Sorry if I jump into the conversation, but it's a topic I'm interested in.
I've read that the Exynos variants have a standby battery drain problem. Is that true?
I'm coming from an S10e which has a BIG standby drain issue (I've experienced nothing like that before), and before buying an S20 I'd like to know if those rumors are true or not.
I'm asking this because I don't use the phone for gaming, so having a phone who can support graphic-intensive games for a long playing time is not a crucial point for me.
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No stadby problems at all, at least this is my experience
Actually S20+ is performing similar as S10+ I owned before, which means 3% drop overnight (approx 7 hrs) with wifi and data off
Even with data or wifi on the drain is normal
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TheNetwork said:
Coming from a OnePlus 6, I'd advise you buy an S20+. I can't recommend this phone enough and most of the whiners just need something to complain about and in reality haven't even compared the snapdragon and exynos so they have no basis to claim it's the CPU's fault and not just that the phone in general is not for them.
OnePlus 8 Pro is ridiculously underfeatured and overpriced. The only use I can see it having is if you're an OP fangirl and want to play games 24/7 so you absolutely need the slightly better cooling and qualcomm chipset.
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Mrwhosetheboss and others on YouTube have done great comparisons between exynos and snapdragon and exynos is inferior! Wish I'd have held off and got snapdragon from wondamobile

russellcausier said:
Mrwhosetheboss and others on YouTube have done great comparisons between exynos and snapdragon and exynos is inferior! Wish I'd have held off and got snapdragon from wondamobile
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If I remember correctly, they said that it's inferior only when it comes to intense use (i.e. with graphicly demanding games).

NickRaga said:
If I remember correctly, they said that it's inferior only when it comes to intense use (i.e. with graphicly demanding games).
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Inferior battery

NickRaga said:
Yeah, but does it suffer from standby battery drain? That's a major point, to be honest.
It doesn't matter how you use your phone, if it drains battery just standing there by itself.
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My s20 + 5g idle drain is the worst I've ever had on a phone coming from S10. On airplane mode im losing upwards of 20% a night having basically everything put to sleep, aod display off. This phone drains battery faster with screen off than on. Really disappointed thus far. Hope Samsung does something to fix this issue as its simply ridiculous.
Edit: This was a SIM card issue nothing more. Hope this edit may help someone else potentially.

Question Experience Performance of the vivo x80 pro and heating issues

I've been wanting to get this phone as my daily driver. I've been wanting something with stellar performance and a top notch camera.
If I do end up getting it, I want to use it for four years.
I'm coming from a oneplus 6, which has handled its fair share of hardcore usage. From heavy multi tasking, to having its hot-spot stay on for 12 hours a day, to heavy gaming, and a phone loaded with data, Its seen it all.
I wanted to know whether the vivo users here think that the x80 pro will be able to take such hardcore usage day in and out for at least 4-5 years?
I am just a little worried before I spend all this money on a brand which I know very little about. Especially because most of the information online seems to be "sponsored" by vivo. I mean the phone does look really promising on paper. But would it be able to take this beating in real life?
I also heard that the vivo x80 pro heats up doing regular things such as watching YouTube videos etc. and that I'd be better off waiting for the vivo x80 pro plus. Would that be a good idea? I was really looking forward to the vivo. So any input would be appreciated.

Hi,
I've the vivo x80 pro (origin is, 512 gb, dim9000) since two weeks, coming from OnePlus 5 which was my hardcore daily driver. After solving some issues with notifications and drawer style I'm very happy with it. Camera, display, charging, customize options, speed is really perfect compared to OnePlus.
Having a videocall over 45 min with turned on selfiecamera the phone gets warm - we had 35 degrees of Celsius yesterday in Germany ... Haven't played any game so far, so no experience with that. I'm getting also used to the missing notification badges on my home display and to its size/weight.
Battery performance improves day by day - after one day normal usage (weekend day: Reddit, YouTube, Spotify, WhatsApp, browsing, taking pictures) more than 50% capacity is left, therefore it would last about 2 days without recharging in my case.
Summary: I'm very happy with the purchase hoping that the x80 pro will last 5 years at least.

ZarW said:
Hi,
I've the vivo x80 pro (origin is, 512 gb, dim9000) since two weeks, coming from OnePlus 5 which was my hardcore daily driver. After solving some issues with notifications and drawer style I'm very happy with it. Camera, display, charging, customize options, speed is really perfect compared to OnePlus.
Having a videocall over 45 min with turned on selfiecamera the phone gets warm - we had 35 degrees of Celsius yesterday in Germany ... Haven't played any game so far, so no experience with that. I'm getting also used to the missing notification badges on my home display and to its size/weight.
Battery performance improves day by day - after one day normal usage (weekend day: Reddit, YouTube, Spotify, WhatsApp, browsing, taking pictures) more than 50% capacity is left, therefore it would last about 2 days without recharging in my case.
Summary: I'm very happy with the purchase hoping that the x80 pro will last 5 years at least.
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Hey, thank you so much for your reply. However, I am in India so I would probably be getting the snapdragon version. The dimensity version is either too expensive or too difficult to get where I live.
I wanted to know the above about the snapdragon version.

Hi
I've the vivo x80 pro (origin is, 512 gb, dim9000) since last week. I have ordered the Snapdragon version but i get the Dim 9000.
My daily driver was a redmi Note 10. The Vivo had some issues which i sorted out last weekend.
It was very warm here in Germany, 38 degrees, and I was busy the whole weekend with my new phone.
A lot has been tried, installed, adjusted and tested, of course the phone has also been charged several times.
This phone hasn't gotten warmer than the Redmi Note 10.
But with the quick charge it gets warm.
I ´am very happy this this phone and the performance an camera is a big step up from the old phone

Shawarma_thoum said:
Hey, thank you so much for your reply. However, I am in India so I would probably be getting the snapdragon version. The dimensity version is either too expensive or too difficult to get where I live.
I wanted to know the above about the snapdragon version.
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Depending on scenario there is not that big difference between snap and dim9000 - in my opinion, you will not notice a 2-3% difference in performance, battery life or heat. 2% based on 40 degrees of celsius is 0.8 degrees difference -> your hand will be not able to tell you if the phone is 40.0 or 40.8 degrees hot. Therefore, the difference between snap and dim9000 is really negligible when benchmarking normal day usage.
/edit: I've been watching youtube videos yesterday more than 1.5 hours, the phone was not getting too hot although we had crazy high temperatures in Southern Germany.

Wow, thank you so much for your comprehensive reply.
I will definitely take this into consideration.
However, I would also want input from a snapdragon user just for the peace of mind before I put all this money into purchasing this phone.

Just got the X80 Pro SD8G1 version and already got some nice updates as well as optinal updates(They call it Trial updates, though it acts like Beta).
On the first day, due to all the transferring I've done from mine legendary Mate 40 Pro, it got hot but not scorching hot.
The camera is SuperB as you've heard and seen thought the reviews, it's extremely versatile and the ISP is fast, yet again it did get hot but ever so slightly, nothing to worry about.
Battery is being tested so i don't have a conclusion yet, but it should be solid though probably nothing like iPhone 13 Pro Max or the Mate 20 X(best Android battery life EVER).
Speakers are very good but lacks some bass.
Overall performance are very solid and the charge speed is fast as hell.
Now, battery will get a hit over the year with heavy use and i'm unsure how this will unfold, but judging from my past you should not worry about it.
You'll have a blast with this phone, just wish it was bigger with bigger battery but well...

Derpling said:
Just got the X80 Pro SD8G1 version and already got some nice updates as well as optinal updates(They call it Trial updates, though it acts like Beta).
On the first day, due to all the transferring I've done from mine legendary Mate 40 Pro, it got hot but not scorching hot.
The camera is SuperB as you've heard and seen thought the reviews, it's extremely versatile and the ISP is fast, yet again it did get hot but ever so slightly, nothing to worry about.
Battery is being tested so i don't have a conclusion yet, but it should be solid though probably nothing like iPhone 13 Pro Max or the Mate 20 X(best Android battery life EVER).
Speakers are very good but lacks some bass.
Overall performance are very solid and the charge speed is fast as hell.
Now, battery will get a hit over the year with heavy use and i'm unsure how this will unfold, but judging from my past you should not worry about it.
You'll have a blast with this phone, just wish it was bigger with bigger battery but well...
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may I ask, Funtouch (global) or Origin OS (CN) version ?
thinking of selling my S22U for X80 Pro global, but would certainly like to hear some user feedback first because global version is very expensive in EU

Derpling said:
Just got the X80 Pro SD8G1 version and already got some nice updates as well as optinal updates(They call it Trial updates, though it acts like Beta).
On the first day, due to all the transferring I've done from mine legendary Mate 40 Pro, it got hot but not scorching hot.
The camera is SuperB as you've heard and seen thought the reviews, it's extremely versatile and the ISP is fast, yet again it did get hot but ever so slightly, nothing to worry about.
Battery is being tested so i don't have a conclusion yet, but it should be solid though probably nothing like iPhone 13 Pro Max or the Mate 20 X(best Android battery life EVER).
Speakers are very good but lacks some bass.
Overall performance are very solid and the charge speed is fast as hell.
Now, battery will get a hit over the year with heavy use and i'm unsure how this will unfold, but judging from my past you should not worry about it.
You'll have a blast with this phone, just wish it was bigger with bigger battery but well...
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is there any site where we can track optional updates? i have opted in for optional updates but havent got any so far.
whats your current sw version?

Derpling said:
Just got the X80 Pro SD8G1 version and already got some nice updates as well as optinal updates(They call it Trial updates, though it acts like Beta).
On the first day, due to all the transferring I've done from mine legendary Mate 40 Pro, it got hot but not scorching hot.
The camera is SuperB as you've heard and seen thought the reviews, it's extremely versatile and the ISP is fast, yet again it did get hot but ever so slightly, nothing to worry about.
Battery is being tested so i don't have a conclusion yet, but it should be solid though probably nothing like iPhone 13 Pro Max or the Mate 20 X(best Android battery life EVER).
Speakers are very good but lacks some bass.
Overall performance are very solid and the charge speed is fast as hell.
Now, battery will get a hit over the year with heavy use and i'm unsure how this will unfold, but judging from my past you should not worry about it.
You'll have a blast with this phone, just wish it was bigger with bigger battery but well...
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Derpling said:
Just got the X80 Pro SD8G1 version and already got some nice updates as well as optinal updates(They call it Trial updates, though it acts like Beta).
On the first day, due to all the transferring I've done from mine legendary Mate 40 Pro, it got hot but not scorching hot.
The camera is SuperB as you've heard and seen thought the reviews, it's extremely versatile and the ISP is fast, yet again it did get hot but ever so slightly, nothing to worry about.
Battery is being tested so i don't have a conclusion yet, but it should be solid though probably nothing like iPhone 13 Pro Max or the Mate 20 X(best Android battery life EVER).
Speakers are very good but lacks some bass.
Overall performance are very solid and the charge speed is fast as hell.
Now, battery will get a hit over the year with heavy use and i'm unsure how this will unfold, but judging from my past you should not worry about it.
You'll have a blast with this phone, just wish it was bigger with bigger battery but well...
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Wow, Thank you for your reply.
I am so glad to hear all these positive things about the phone.
However, I can't help but mention a review i was watching online where they used the camera on this phone for a while. Perhaps around 20+ minutes outdoors and it got super hot to the point where it was unable to perform.
Just wanted to see whether you've experienced anything like this using the camera?

tobias14 said:
may I ask, Funtouch (global) or Origin OS (CN) version ?
thinking of selling my S22U for X80 Pro global, but would certainly like to hear some user feedback first because global version is very expensive in EU
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Funtouch OS 12 and you can try FunTouch os13 if you want.
So far it's very smooth outside the stock gallery app which lags a bit, but that can be easily replaced.

Shawarma_thoum said:
Wow, Thank you for your reply.
I am so glad to hear all these positive things about the phone.
However, I can't help but mention a review i was watching online where they used the camera on this phone for a while. Perhaps around 20+ minutes outdoors and it got super hot to the point where it was unable to perform.
Just wanted to see whether you've experienced anything like this using the camera?
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I'll try it this week and report back but it's understandable.
That happened to me with mine Mate 9 and Galaxy devices, you should minimize the sun reflection on the phone as it heats it up massively, don't forget that black colour sucks heat more than any others.

bala_gamer said:
is there any site where we can track optional updates? i have opted in for optional updates but havent got any so far.
whats your current sw version?
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Not that i know but i'll seach for it.
SW version 12.0.12.5.W30.v000l1

Derpling said:
Funtouch OS 12 and you can try FunTouch os13 if you want.
So far it's very smooth outside the stock gallery app which lags a bit, but that can be easily replaced.
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thanks, much appreciated
I'm still on the fence whether to hit "buy now" on amazon or not

tobias14 said:
thanks, much appreciated
I'm still on the fence whether to hit "buy now" on amazon or not
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Well Vivo should release X80Pro Plus in July if rumors are to be believed.
You can always wait but it's kinda endless, for now i ordered the Vivo x80 pro to replace the legendary Mate 40 pro.
If they'll be a much better phone down the road, then i'll sell it.

Derpling said:
I'll try it this week and report back but it's understandable.
That happened to me with mine Mate 9 and Galaxy devices, you should minimize the sun reflection on the phone as it heats it up massively, don't forget that black colour sucks heat more than any others.
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Thank you. Will be waiting for your reply.

tobias14 said:
thanks, much appreciated
I'm still on the fence whether to hit "buy now" on amazon or not
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If you like a phone where the notifications are not working, you should definetly consider buying it, or maybe you want mine?
I got tired already, that no notifications and floating windows works... and this in a flagship phone...

xperia81 said:
If you like a phone where the notifications are not working, you should definetly consider buying it, or maybe you want mine?
I got tired already, that no notifications and floating windows works... and this in a flagship phone...
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I guess you have the China version with Origin OS?

tobias14 said:
I guess you have the China version with Origin OS?
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Of course, I bought it few weeks ago. There was no other version.

xperia81 said:
Of course, I bought it few weeks ago. There was no other version.
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Well, I definitively avoid phones with CN roms. Basic things like fully working Google apps, notifications, Android auto, 3rd party launchers etc are often problematic with these

Question Few questions about the S22

Hi,
I'm thinking of getting an S22, but I would appreciate your help with answering a few questions first: (if you don't want or can't answer these questions, please skip to the end of the post)
1. I understand that the Snapdragon version is much better. Is it also more supported community/ROM wise?
2. How is the battery life, if the phone is usually on idle, with a few phone talks over the day, some music, and lets say about 1 hour of screen time (continuously)? If that is the usage for a day, will it last for two days? (approximately, based on your experience)
3. This One UI, is it good, comfortable to use? Can it be replaced by replacing a launcher, or do you have to flash a new ROM?
4. Speaking of ROMs, I assume flashing ROMs/kernels is still pretty easy? The last Galaxy phone I had is the S1 and a lot of time has passed, but I remember not struggling much, and coursing through ROMs was a breeze.
5. I know you'll probably be biased towards the S22, but I'm debating over it VS the Pixel 7. Considering the fact that I can't use the unique features of the Pixel 7 (Google assistant screening spam calls, making appointments, etc.) since I don't live in the US or a country where these features are supported, and that I prefer smaller screens, which one should I choose?
In general, what do you think of the phone? Are you happy with it? Can you provide examples of pros and cons?
Thank you!

Limited max of 256gb internal storage, max of 8gb of ram, no expandable storage, and a small 3700 mAh for a power hungry Snapdragon.
Rounded display corners and a lousy ~87.4% screen-to-body ratio. blah.
Snapdragon's are notoriously hard or impossible to root. The stock launcher is superior to any 3rd party launcher.
If 5G and a variable refresh rate display (which are known to have multiple issues including less color/gamma accuracy) aren't important to you a N10+ in good condition or new is a better choice and cheaper. It's a solid performer.
Otherwise OP phones seem to have a better track record than the last 2 generations of Samsung's.

Thanks for your answer. Actually I'm perfectly fine with 128GB of storage, the amount of RAM is incredible (I'm not a heavy gamer, not even a gamer on mobile) and the screen size, ratio is fine for me I guess.
I am worried about the Snapdragon version being impossible to root, because the Snapdragon version phone is much faster from what I understand. Also it's very strange, I've had no problems rooting previous phones with Snapdragon.
It will sound funny but I do want a high refresh rate, for me it's important the the phone feels smooth. I'm already hearing about the Pixel 7 having scrolling issues and that concerns me because like I said, I'm also thinking about buying it, if not the S22.

TheeWolf said:
Thanks for your answer. Actually I'm perfectly fine with 128GB of storage, the amount of RAM is incredible (I'm not a heavy gamer, not even a gamer on mobile) and the screen size, ratio is fine for me I guess.
I am worried about the Snapdragon version being impossible to root, because the Snapdragon version phone is much faster from what I understand. Also it's very strange, I've had no problems rooting previous phones with Snapdragon.
It will sound funny but I do want a high refresh rate, for me it's important the the phone feels smooth. I'm already hearing about the Pixel 7 having scrolling issues and that concerns me because like I said, I'm also thinking about buying it, if not the S22.
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You lose nothing by waiting. I don't buy a new phone every year or two in part because it's always a crap shoot. Waiting reduces the odds of getting stuck with a dud. 128gb isn't much storage; my minimum is 256 and that's with a 1tb SD card used as a data drive. Basically it's my PC, all my PC's are dual drive, even laptops.
I keep seeing good things about OP, they seem to have less display issues. For a gamer that might be a good choice. My requirements are different from yours, I have one game which runs well
I really like Samsung's UI and the Good Lock family of apps that modify it. The almost endless free icon packs and themes on the Galaxy store. Pixels homescreen's look gaudy and barren by comparison. Not many stock mods either. Samsung's can run very well stock once optimized. They need to be optimized... and that will take time until you're up to speed.
Warning, learning curve ahead. That's another big reason I don't upgrade firmware or devices often if the device is fulfilling its mission. I'm a conservative pragmatist and will use whatever comes in handy. Think it through and get what best suits your requirements and fullfills the mission with minimal maintenance. That's all the counts
Media server in progress; 240gb in mostly .wav files, over 150gb, many are hd movies. All stream seamlessly from the V30 rated card. When watching them from storage my SOT is as low as 6%@hr vs browser streaming at 12%@hr. Writes at about [email protected] from internal storage.
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"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
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Because color accuracy and calibration directly impact gamma accuracy/calibration the fixed rate refresh rate display of the superb N10+ display is uniquely qualified for this role. My decision wasn't rushed or arbitrary when I went with a second N10+ as a backup. It was purely mission and fun oriented. For my purposes no other device even today is better suited or qualified... which is sort of sad.

TheeWolf said:
Thanks for your answer. Actually I'm perfectly fine with 128GB of storage, the amount of RAM is incredible (I'm not a heavy gamer, not even a gamer on mobile) and the screen size, ratio is fine for me I guess.
I am worried about the Snapdragon version being impossible to root, because the Snapdragon version phone is much faster from what I understand. Also it's very strange, I've had no problems rooting previous phones with Snapdragon.
It will sound funny but I do want a high refresh rate, for me it's important the the phone feels smooth. I'm already hearing about the Pixel 7 having scrolling issues and that concerns me because like I said, I'm also thinking about buying it, if not the S22.
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The P7's screen can "only" reach 90Hz while all S22 variants can go up to 120Hz, so it's not comparable.
Rooting Snapdragon models is a problem mostly for carrier devices. The Snapdragon S90xE models are easily rooted and also have twrp if you need it.
My S901E (regular S22) just got updated to android 13 which I obviously rooted too and it's running great.
Pixel 6 and 7 series are only older samsung exynos (oops tensor) devices with vanilla google os ...
If you're worried about S22's battery, just don't compare it with bigger phones, or at least just do some maths to convert its most relative known SOT to correspond to the target compared device's capacity. You'll end up saying "it's great for a 3700mAh battery, really great ..."

DaReDeViL said:
The P7's screen can "only" reach 90Hz while all S22 variants can go up to 120Hz, so it's not comparable.
Rooting Snapdragon models is a problem mostly for carrier devices. The Snapdragon S90xE models are easily rooted and also have twrp if you need it.
My S901E (regular S22) just got updated to android 13 which I obviously rooted too and it's running great.
Pixel 6 and 7 series are only older samsung exynos (oops tensor) devices with vanilla google os ...
If you're worried about S22's battery, just don't compare it with bigger phones, or at least just do some maths to convert its most relative known SOT to correspond to the target compared device's capacity. You'll end up saying "it's great for a 3700mAh battery, really great ..."
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What kind of SOT are you seeing now on an optimized S22? What's SOT with 5G disabled or if locked to 60hz?

DaReDeViL said:
Rooting Snapdragon models is a problem mostly for carrier devices. The Snapdragon S90xE models are easily rooted and also have twrp if you need it.
My S901E (regular S22) just got updated to android 13 which I obviously rooted too and it's running great.
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Good! The model I can buy locally is SM-S901E/DS, and I don't live in the US, so according to what you're saying, I can root it, right?

blackhawk said:
What kind of SOT are you seeing now on an optimized S22? What's SOT with 5G disabled or if locked to 60hz?
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I was getting easy 5 to 7 hours SOT a day with no special optimization. 120Hz, no gaming, no social networks, just calls, surfing, taking pics, whatsapp messaging, youtube (revanced), ... and some fews other boring apps.
I can even get more if I switch from 4G to 3G and creating a 4G manual routine when needed (because why keep power hungry 4G during the day while I only need its speed occasionally)

TheeWolf said:
Good! The model I can buy locally is SM-S901E/DS, and I don't live in the US, so according to what you're saying, I can root it, right?
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Oh yes, you can!

Battery aside rest phone is awesome and compact. In n era of TV sized phones this phone is a beast

DaReDeViL said:
I was getting easy 5 to 7 hours SOT a day with no special optimization. 120Hz, no gaming, no social networks, just calls, surfing, taking pics, whatsapp messaging, youtube (revanced), ... and some fews other boring apps.
I can even get more if I switch from 4G to 3G and creating a 4G manual routine when needed (because why keep power hungry 4G during the day while I only need its speed occasionally)
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Lol, what's 3G? No such thing here anymore.
I run 4G with wifi always disabled. Google play Services, and Gmail are at most times disabled and all cloud apps never run. Playstore is rarely enabled. About 80 packages are blocked.
WhatsApp is likely killing more than it's fair share.
My stock N975U1 is getting a lot better SOT even with a derated battery (3400-3700 mAh).
My question is what's eating so much power, is it the display, 5G, the Android version (scooped storage)?
These newer phones have more efficient ram and the SOC should be more efficient as well.
Even now streaming vids I get 12-14%@hr. The battery is near replacement level (20% degraded)... when I get around to it.

blackhawk said:
Lol, what's 3G? No such thing here anymore.
I run 4G with wifi always disabled. Google play Services, and Gmail are at most times disabled and all cloud apps never run. Playstore is rarely enabled. About 80 packages are blocked.
WhatsApp is likely killing more than it's fair share.
My stock N975U1 is getting a lot better SOT even with a derated battery (3400-3700 mAh).
My question is what's eating so much power, is it the display, 5G, the Android version (scooped storage)?
These newer phones have more efficient ram and the SOC should be more efficient as well.
Even now streaming vids I get 12-14%@hr. The battery is near replacement level (20% degraded)... when I get around to it.
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Lol HSPA+ and even GPRS are still available in my country. Switching to 3G allows me to have slightly more SOT.
Regarding optimization, I learned the hard way that too much tinkering can give inverse results and even kill the "smart" part of the smartphone.

DaReDeViL said:
Lol HSPA+ and even GPRS are still available in my country. Switching to 3G allows me to have slightly more SOT.
Regarding optimization, I learned the hard way that too much tinkering can give inverse results and even kill the "smart" part of the smartphone.
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No 3G here killed my oldest phone.
Yeah if you go too nuts optimizing it will end up biting you. Beginning with Android 10 Samsung added dozens of small systems apks that mostly to modify the UI. Most shouldn't be touched.
My list of blocked packages is almost the same for the Q loaded N975U1 as used on the Pie loaded N975U though. Took quit a while to work it out the first time... dependencies are a witch.

For me the phone is fine in most regards.
Exynos is plenty fast for daily use and battery life is supposedly better than snap.
I am new to Samsung as well and am not impressed by modding options.
To me it is clear that Samsung is the most Apple like android.
Rooting is no issue, but you will lose DRM verification, so lower quality YouTube Netflix and such.
A PC is always needed to flash an update, which for some of us has been impossible without full wiping by the way.
I can get 2 days with light use similar to what you described.
I do have 5g disabled as 4g is crazy fast already where I live/work.
A bit of debloating, mostly as i am annoyed by all these apps being there.
Oneui is actually quite good, but some mods with good lock and running nova.

bamn said:
For me the phone is fine in most regards.
Exynos is plenty fast for daily use and battery life is supposedly better than snap.
I am new to Samsung as well and am not impressed by modding options.
To me it is clear that Samsung is the most Apple like android.
Rooting is no issue, but you will lose DRM verification, so lower quality YouTube Netflix and such.
A PC is always needed to flash an update, which for some of us has been impossible without full wiping by the way.
I can get 2 days with light use similar to what you described.
I do have 5g disabled as 4g is crazy fast already where I live/work.
A bit of debloating, mostly as i am annoyed by all these apps being there.
Oneui is actually quite good, but some mods with good lock and running nova.
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Thanks!
A bummer with DRM, I thought this was exclusive to Sony (I currently own Xperia XZ2 compact), didn't think I'd encounter the dilemma whether to root or not because of this DRM again.
A question (for everyone here), how is call quality? Can you hear the other person clearly, can they hear you clearly? Is the speaker loud enough when on speaker?
I know it's a basic question but it's something I thought about because Google started rolling out "Clear calling" in the Pixel 7 and although I'm very much leaning to the S22, this seems like an important advantage of the Pixel (unless somehow the feature will reach Samsung or people with other phones).

Yeah DRM sucks a bit, especially since the screen is worth the quality content.
I found out after rooting only, but I can definitely live with it.
To me rooting is still worth it in the end.
Not much to say regarding call quality, i don't call a lot.
I have never been bothered with the quality or speaker volume so I suppose it's not very bad.

TheeWolf said:
Thanks!
A bummer with DRM, I thought this was exclusive to Sony (I currently own Xperia XZ2 compact), didn't think I'd encounter the dilemma whether to root or not because of this DRM again.
A question (for everyone here), how is call quality? Can you hear the other person clearly, can they hear you clearly? Is the speaker loud enough when on speaker?
I know it's a basic question but it's something I thought about because Google started rolling out "Clear calling" in the Pixel 7 and although I'm very much leaning to the S22, this seems like an important advantage of the Pixel (unless somehow the feature will reach Samsung or people with other phones).
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DRM can be fixed by magisk modules.
Call quality is great even on loudspeaker.

TheeWolf said:
Hi,
I'm thinking of getting an S22, but I would appreciate your help with answering a few questions first: (if you don't want or can't answer these questions, please skip to the end of the post)
1. I understand that the Snapdragon version is much better. Is it also more supported community/ROM wise?
2. How is the battery life, if the phone is usually on idle, with a few phone talks over the day, some music, and lets say about 1 hour of screen time (continuously)? If that is the usage for a day, will it last for two days? (approximately, based on your experience)
3. This One UI, is it good, comfortable to use? Can it be replaced by replacing a launcher, or do you have to flash a new ROM?
4. Speaking of ROMs, I assume flashing ROMs/kernels is still pretty easy? The last Galaxy phone I had is the S1 and a lot of time has passed, but I remember not struggling much, and coursing through ROMs was a breeze.
5. I know you'll probably be biased towards the S22, but I'm debating over it VS the Pixel 7. Considering the fact that I can't use the unique features of the Pixel 7 (Google assistant screening spam calls, making appointments, etc.) since I don't live in the US or a country where these features are supported, and that I prefer smaller screens, which one should I choose?
In general, what do you think of the phone? Are you happy with it? Can you provide examples of pros and cons?
Thank you!
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1. I have SD version. I used to flash Custom ROMs on all my previous phone after those stop receiving updated OS. Also for not missing out new features. Right now, with 4 years of OS guarantee by Samsung, I don't see myself going for custom ROMs on my S22. I use Magisk and a few other modules.
2. Battery life is very subjective and personal. For me, it lasts 24 hours on a single charge with 30% left before I charge it again. I don't play heavy games. I have Sudoko, Alto's Adventure, and Flappy Bird (hahaha).. Just to pass the time when I am waiting for someone or something. That's it. I save the heavy/real gaming for bigger screens and PC (for better experience)
I too had less than ideal battery endurance during the first two weeks. It's been the case for the past Samsung devices I have used. So, I knew it would improve after settling in. I resetted the phone before I manually configured the apps and transferred my old data to S22. (Painfully long process) Usually do with Titanium Backup Pro but I wanted it to be a fresh start.
On a regular day.. Connected on WIFI always. 2 SIM cards (1st 2G/3G/4G and 2nd only 2G). I use Slack with 3 different workspaces. 5 Emails on Gmail ( 3 syncing regularly), 1 Samsung account syncing, 2 more work emails syncing on Samsung Email app. Some Chrome use. FlipBoard, Pocket, and Medium reading at the end of the day. Whatsapp, Whatsapp Business, and Telegram usage. Google Drive and Sheet. A few pics here and there.
10 mins of Social media if neeeded. Sometimes music. No watching videos on a regular day. Some 30-60 mins of calls. Buds Pro and Amazfit T Rex Pro connected always.
I get 4 to 5 hours of Screen on Time with 22 to 24 hours overall usage, still with 30% battery remaining. I don't spend time outdoor during day time, so the screen doesn't have to be fully lit. Auto Brightness manages it. Biggest draw on battery for me is the video call, some 18-20% an hour. Next is the outdoor navigation for 10 mins, lost like 3-4%.
I have removed FB app, MS apps and a few Google apps. Also a few Samsung apps which I found no use for. Though I have Root, I found ADB is much easier than Root for removing/disabling these apps. 120 Hz Adaptive refresh rate on. Adaptive Battery. Add some apps to Deep Sleep. That's it. Greenify didn't seem to make a difference in my usage. So stopped.
Accubattery Stats are like.. Discharge 1% an hour on Standby and 10% an hour on screen usage (Wifi and indoors). (I have installed around 100 third party apps on this phone)
I was waiting on the sidelines for the first few months. Was waiting for Samsung to release some updates and improve the battery endurance (as usual). Online reviews were mostly negative due to their usage patterns. My usage is different from theirs. I am still little upset at Samsung for being a jerk by reducing the battery capacity instead of increasing it, just like any other greedy company. So the negative reviews are necessary to call out their wicked move. Hey, if your usage is something like mine, you can go ahead. It's not bad at all. Better battery than my S8 when it was new and 20% less efficient than my S20 FE 5G or A52.
3. I am on One UI 5.0 Stable/Rooted. So far, So good. Minor but good improvements from One UI 4.1. I am using Nova Launcher Prime.. been like this for the last 5 years. I just don't like the homescreen and app drawer arrangements on One UI. That's all. Everything else is so good. I personally love One UI for its functionality. It has evolved a lot. People complain about bloatware either have not used One UI 3 or later versions on flagship devices. Bloatwares are there in mid and low end devices, that too getting less nowadays (comparing with M12).
4. I too was tempted to try custom Kernel during the first week. But I wanted to wait and see what this device had to offer in terms of battery life. I am happy without custom kernel. Flashing Custom ROMs and kernels are just like any other Samsung phones. But I find it much easier than Moto or Xiaomi phones.
5. I replaced my S8 with S20 FE 5G and I didn't like the size. I replaced it with S22. Compactness, easy to use. Better cameras than S20 FE 5G. Average battery life. Good build. One UI is good. If I had the chance to decide again, I would still choose S22 over Pixel 7 or 7 Pro. Overall experience matters than a few extra features.
I hope this helps!
Edit: One UI 5.0 has come with a feature, Bixby Text Call - similar to Pixel's Call Screening feature. I have no use for it. I haven't tried it. Currently, the translation/transcription only supports Korean language.
Call Quality with and without Wifi Calling/VOLTE enabled, is super clear for both parties. Better than any phone I have used, even their own S8, A52, and S20 FE 5G. Even on loud speaker, I would sit a few feet away from my phone and still it would be clear to both parties without any issues. We also have inbuilt sound quality settings to tweak to our needs. I found this for the first time on One UI 4.0

@Vorion Thank you so much for this very detailed answer!
By the way, about the Bixby text call, from what I understand it's not like the Pixel's call screening feature, it's actually designed to make you communicate with someone in a "text call" - you type messages, the other side hears your messages in a Bixby's automated voice. What the other side says you will read as it will be converted to text.

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