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I was reading on the Note 8 the other day and started noticing that the left side of the tablet gets pretty warm/hot. Is it just me or does anyone else have this issue? The rest of the tablet remains cool- just the left side around the middle.
JokeZony0u said:
I was reading on the Note 8 the other day and started noticing that the left side of the tablet gets pretty warm/hot. Is it just me or does anyone else have this issue? The rest of the tablet remains cool- just the left side around the middle.
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This issue already discussed before. It is quite normal for a device to get some heat. Anyway, I think there is a big difference between warm and hot. If your device really gets HOT, then it is a problem. My device gets warm as well as you described, but I wouldn't say it gets hot or uncomfortable to hold. I think the temperatures quite similar to my SGS3.
CPUs and GPUs put out heat. Batteries put out heat. The more intensive the activity (particularly watching video, gaming, internet use and GPS) the more heat will be generated. This is a fact with all tablets, and computers in general. I'd think it was strange if the device didn't get warm somewhere. Heat on the left side is completely normal, although not sure what component (CPU, battery, etc.) is located there.
Now its impossible to tell what OP means exactly by "warm" or "hot" as this are not quantitive in any way. It shouldn't get hot enough to be uncomfortable (or even hurt) to hold in any way. Excessive heat may be an indicator of a faulty battery or some other hardware defect. But usually not. And the device will shut itself down long before a temperature is reached, that will hurt anything (if that is what you are worried about).
There are ways for the system to tell you the temperature, but I think its only at one location (CPU?) which may not be the problem area. So measuring this way may have limted usefulness in real life.
That is the location of the cpu unit so I wouldn't worry about it unless it gets very disconcertingly hot.
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Im using the Sansung OEM cover. Holding it in portrait mode, mine gets "warm" on the left side near the edge... but only when its in my pocket and its in sleep mode and wifi is turned off. Kinda fels like my BlackBerry when its polling for a tower, it gets real warm. I have a N5110 wifi no radio so trying to determine why the warm up.
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Heat "problem"?
JokeZony0u said:
I was reading on the Note 8 the other day and started noticing that the left side of the tablet gets pretty warm/hot. Is it just me or does anyone else have this issue? The rest of the tablet remains cool- just the left side around the middle.
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My Galaxy Note 8 has this problem. I installed an app which read the temperature and it reaches 40°C when I play video games. It has the power saving mode on. Is it normal? I'm worried about this
JNoise05 said:
My Galaxy Note 8 has this problem. I installed an app which read the temperature and it reaches 40°C when I play video games. It has the power saving mode on. Is it normal? I'm worried about this
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i've installed diagnosis app to check the temp, mine reaches ~40C(i think this is the battery temp) when i play also. so i think many of us is experiencing this *____*
Just with normal use the left side of my unit is getting annoyingly warm. Hopefully they can fix this with an update or something. I'm experiencing this on stock, anyone on custom software experiencing this too?
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Hey thanks for all your input guys. It's good to know I'm not the only one experiencing these problems. So far, I don't think it's bothering me to the point that I wish to call Samsung up for a replacement. It does get a bit warmer especially if I have the pen out and writing some notes. I do also understand it's more than likely that the cpu is located there but I've never had a warming problem w/ other smartphones and tablets I've had.
Either way, thanks for all the input!
I agree
JokeZony0u said:
I do also understand it's more than likely that the cpu is located there but I've never had a warming problem w/ other smartphones and tablets I've had.!
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I agree with you, my father's got an iPad mini and the gadget doesn't present warming problems and battery life is much better. Do you think all Note 8 devices present the same problem? I'm thinking seriously of replace mine for a brand new Note 8.0 but if it presents the same problem, I'll be wasting my time...
I am thinking to buy the phone but I saw some posts there are some heat issues. So what is the problem besides the phone getting too hot? Is it shuting down when it gets too hot or get really laggy? Is there any other problem when heated except it gets really hot?
Rupar4o said:
I am thinking to buy the phone but I saw some posts there are some heat issues. So what is the problem besides the phone getting too hot? Is it shuting down when it gets too hot or get really laggy? Is there any other problem when heated except it gets really hot?
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I haven't experienced any heat issues. I have yet to feel my g3 get warm Tbh.
Others (not sure which model) have reported issues with heat, to the point that it causes the device to throttle the brightness down. Again haven't experienced this on my at&t model.
Heisenberg420 said:
I haven't experienced any heat issues. I have yet to feel my g3 get warm Tbh.
Others (not sure which model) have reported issues with heat, to the point that it causes the device to throttle the brightness down. Again haven't experienced this on my at&t model.
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Thanks for the reply, someone with issues ?
Same here not felt it get warm even watching video.
When the phone gets hot several things happen.
1) The CPU is clocked down to help lower heat
2) Brightness is capped to help lower heat
3) If the phone continues to get too hot (usually when its already hot and you then start to play a really intense game, or benchmark the phone may shut itself down.
People complained a lot with the Korean model but I haven't seen anyone with a US model complain. Maybe the type of person that waits is less likely to be a phone gamer? They may have actually tweaked it so it doesn't activate as quickly or harshly. I do know some people disabled it on the Korean model. I haven't heard of anything bad happening but those few people may have felt dumb if it destroyed their phone and not posted that it did...
I have no heating problem with my lg g3 international D855 16gb model, even during quadrant test or playing games.
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Define an actual temperature for hot.
I disabled the thermal protection on my AT&T version and yes, I've felt it get quite hot while playing Final Fantasy 6. The heat radiated mainly through the metal power button but the entire top half of the device got pretty hot. Didn't bother me all that much tho, as I've had other devices get hot like that in the past.
I use exposed app CPU temp my g3 sits at about 30c and 45c which is normal temps and about 50ish whith thermal protection on disabled.
what heat issue
jutley said:
I use exposed app CPU temp my g3 sits at about 30c and 45c which is normal temps and about 50ish whith thermal protection on disabled.
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Do we have any official documentation from Qualcomm on how hot the cpu can safely be?
flaring afro said:
Do we have any official documentation from Qualcomm on how hot the cpu can safely be?
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Not sure it must be out there somewhere I am sure.
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I disabled the thermal protection on my AT&T version and yes, I've felt it get quite hot while playing Final Fantasy 6. The heat radiated mainly through the metal power button but the entire top half of the device got pretty hot. Didn't bother me all that much tho, as I've had other devices get hot like that in the past.
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My girlfriend picked this up yesterday and this is happening to her G3. Not playing games though, just browsing the internet/reading an article. It makes no sense to me. How can you take control over that? She doesn't want to root the phone.
But yeah, just reading something or even looking at Facebook, the phone gets way too hot.
I picked up the Verizon version yesterday. It's gotten pretty warm around the power button a few times for me also. Typically not bad or what I would consider unusual with one or two exceptions.
My G3 (UK) go very very hot yesterday when I was on the train playing a graphically intensive game.
It shut itself down and then refused to turn on again. Ever.
I tried everything all night but no joy. I got a replacement handset today.
I'm sure it was because of the overheating that the phone malfunctioned. Without knowing exactly what has happened to it the timing is too coincidental for it to be random hardware failure. It was SUPER hot!
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My G3 (UK) go very very hot yesterday when I was on the train playing a graphically intensive game.
It shut itself down and then refused to turn on again. Ever.
I tried everything all night but no joy. I got a replacement handset today.
I'm sure it was because of the overheating that the phone malfunctioned. Without knowing exactly what has happened to it the timing is too coincidental for it to be random hardware failure. It was SUPER hot!
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This is strange. Does the kernel not shut the phone down before it "fries" the SOC?,unless the throttling temps are too high? Wonder if this is linked to the display flickering problem myself and another poster had.
Batfink33 said:
This is strange. Does the kernel not shut the phone down before it "fries" the SOC?,unless the throttling temps are too high? Wonder if this is linked to the display flickering problem myself and another poster had.
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Funny you mention display flickering. I had that about 2 weeks ago. The display started flickering really badly, like nothing I've ever seen on any Android device, and I needed to pull the battery to reset. It didn't boot straight away either, it had to cool down a bit.
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Define an actual temperature for hot.
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this.
all phones get warm if you are on it for an extended period of time, surfing (using data), gaming etc etc screen on for long periods of time. those saying they can game and not have heat are lying to you. phone gets warm when screen is on for extended period of time and by phone I mean any phone
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Funny you mention display flickering. I had that about 2 weeks ago. The display started flickering really badly, like nothing I've ever seen on any Android device, and I needed to pull the battery to reset. It didn't boot straight away either, it had to cool down a bit.
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Yeah, i had a flickering display which didnt go away.I returned that phone. Another poster yesterday had the same issue.Im wondering if the GPU is frying itself? Although the GPU does throttle as well as the CPU. Running Antutu I would get 60+deg C maybe playing a game for an extended period of time for example is causing damage? Just a theory.
I dropped by tablet battery down once and now every so often the screen flickers with vertical lines and this is followed by loss of network and the thing reboots.
I've read this to be a battery problem.
Warranty is still active but I've rooted it and my Knox counter has gone up.
What do you think XDA? Just get a replacement battery?
NightShadow02 said:
I dropped by tablet battery down once and now every so often the screen flickers with vertical lines and this is followed by loss of network and the thing reboots.
I've read this to be a battery problem.
Warranty is still active but I've rooted it and my Knox counter has gone up.
What do you think XDA? Just get a replacement battery?
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If you have the ability, since it was dropped, I would open it and make sure connection is tight to battery and screen. Then if it still acts up, get a battery. Several people had battery issues out of the box. All it turned out to be for a few was a loose connection.
i was thinking about that but i'm afraid of voiding warranty. do i even still have warranty? due to the knox?
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If you have the ability, since it was dropped, I would open it and make sure connection is tight to battery and screen. Then if it still acts up, get a battery. Several people had battery issues out of the box. All it turned out to be for a few was a loose connection.
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Well ive opened it up and tightened everything i can see and it seems to work ok for a while, when the charge gets to around 20-30%, the tablet flickers, all mobile connections are lost and 75% of the time, reboots.
So i went ahead and got a new battery. Now this was worse kinda. At random moments, like unlocking the screen, or replying to a message, or maybe just a high cpu load event, the tablet just turns off and is unable to be powered back on without first connecting it to a power supply like a wall charger or a power bank.
The time and date will be reset once its back on and ill have to wait a few minutes before the auto network time setting kicks in before i can use something like whatsapp.
Anyone got any clue what might be causing this problem? Thanks in advance, helpful xdarians.
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Well ive opened it up and tightened everything i can see and it seems to work ok for a while, when the charge gets to around 20-30%, the tablet flickers, all mobile connections are lost and 75% of the time, reboots.
So i went ahead and got a new battery. Now this was worse kinda. At random moments, like unlocking the screen, or replying to a message, or maybe just a high cpu load event, the tablet just turns off and is unable to be powered back on without first connecting it to a power supply like a wall charger or a power bank.
The time and date will be reset once its back on and ill have to wait a few minutes before the auto network time setting kicks in before i can use something like whatsapp.
Anyone got any clue what might be causing this problem? Thanks in advance, helpful xdarians.
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I'm not by any means an expert or repairman of any kind, just so you know. I'm thinking maybe a loose connection at the terminals on the board the battery connects to or if they use a separate board for the battery to connect to and then to the main board it may be somewhere along in there. Maybe a loose wire going into the tab that connects to the prongs. It sure sounds like something isn't making a good connection. Sounds like a load gets put on it and it and that bad connection can't handle the load.
Might just be you're going to have to send it off...
You may be right. Sounds like a particular connection which does higher load or something. Once i put the tablet in power save mode, the symptoms never reappeared. I dont notice a drastic slowdown in the tablet either. Probably am prolonging the inevitable.
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You may be right. Sounds like a particular connection which does higher load or something. Once i put the tablet in power save mode, the symptoms never reappeared. I dont notice a drastic slowdown in the tablet either. Probably am prolonging the inevitable.
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I am facing exactly same issue what you have described and am in same situation, have tripped Knox on my Tab S 8.4.
I can see that you have been able to suppress the behavior by putting it to Power Saving mode. Have you experienced flicker and reboot since then? I am planning to take it to Samsung store not sure if they will honor warranty, did you tried that?
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I am facing exactly same issue what you have described and am in same situation, have tripped Knox on my Tab S 8.4.
I can see that you have been able to suppress the behavior by putting it to Power Saving mode. Have you experienced flicker and reboot since then? I am planning to take it to Samsung store not sure if they will honor warranty, did you tried that?
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nope, ever since the Power Saving mode solution, it hasnt flickered and rebooted yet. and my warranty was expired by that point so i didnt bring it to the shop. no noticable reduction in performance so far
possible battery connector
NightShadow02 said:
Well ive opened it up and tightened everything i can see and it seems to work ok for a while, when the charge gets to around 20-30%, the tablet flickers, all mobile connections are lost and 75% of the time, reboots.
So i went ahead and got a new battery. Now this was worse kinda. At random moments, like unlocking the screen, or replying to a message, or maybe just a high cpu load event, the tablet just turns off and is unable to be powered back on without first connecting it to a power supply like a wall charger or a power bank.
The time and date will be reset once its back on and ill have to wait a few minutes before the auto network time setting kicks in before i can use something like whatsapp.
Anyone got any clue what might be causing this problem? Thanks in advance, helpful xdarians.
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I have seen this problems on 2 tablets 10.5 and 8.4 the connector where battery is connected on motherboard gets loose which causes reboots and flicker
Solution in my case was resoldering that connector again
i had the same problem, opened up my tablet, just disconnected the battery, cleaned the contacts, pushed it back, made sure its nice and snug, put it all back together and now battery doesn't drain as fast, no more flickers and reboots!
hmm. i'll have to give it a try. you think this may be something to do with condensation?
Sorry for the bump, but I'm having this issue as well on my S 8.4. Custom ROM. The thing with me is that it's not consistent. One day, it will do it a few times; others, no issues whatsoever. I'll try the suggested if it gets progressively worse.
Hey guys,
Unfortunately our home's tablet (Tab s 8.4 Wifi) has the same problem.
It never did weird whatshowever, but when I flashed a custom rom (which went perfectly smooth actually) the screen flashes and the tablet reboots sometimes.
Now it weird that this never happened before and only when I flashed a custom rom it began showing this behaviour.
I am affraid of opening this tablet, and I guess because of the custom rom there is no warranty left anymore (or can this be bypassed by some terminal trick?)
Also I question myself if this is not a software issue, and that it can be fixed with software or so?
Thanks for answering!
My Fix
Hey Guys!
I might have some surprising news to tell about this "issue".
I saw some unboxing video's and saw at what place the battery connector was placed. It was some sort of a 'push to click' system.
So what I did was the following:
I pushed the tablet at the place of the battery connector. I tried this at various places until I heard a *click*.
Now I don't have this issue anymore. Jay!
I hope this will help you too!
I started to have the same issue on a Tab Pro 12.2, presumably after the battery has lost considerable amount of its energy. Normally I remember this tablet to have a dazzling 10+ hours of usage time. Just after some serious usage time of more than 2 years this issue started, along with increasing temperature and finally reboot. From time to time Android gave a warning message about overheating. From time to time charge values drop big values at a time. From 45 to 20 or 80 to 50. Seems arbitrary. This was happening even when I was on stock, then I switched to some Android 6 stock port from some other tablet. Still the same.
I believe the battery needs replacement. (That's obvious after 18 months, I just mean blinking is related to this) Hope I can find a high quality one cause there are several garbage batteries.
Hey,
Since some weeks I have a very annoying Problem with my Redmi Note 5 (global) always shut down (completely off, no restart) as soon when I am out side or the ambient temperature is getting low like for example -4°c / 24,8 Fahrenheit. It completely turns off and sometimes doesn't want to turn on again for quite a while and also don't take a charge. The temperature should normally not be a big deal for a phone and my girlfriend also owns a rn 5 global and she never had such a problem. I already did a reflash of miui and also now did a clean flash of Xiaomi EU rom as both didn't fixed it I also tried a different kernel now (basickernel by sgspluss) in combination with Xiaomi EU rom (phone was always rooted with magisk) but nothing helps. There is no massive battery drain and when I use a app to read CPU / battery temperature they seem also be okay. I have really no idea what could cause it I really hope someone here has an idea.
There are no Xiaomi service centers in my country.
Cel00 said:
Hey,
Since some weeks I have a very annoying Problem with my Redmi Note 5 (global) always shut down (completely off, no restart) as soon when I am out side or the ambient temperature is getting low like for example -4°c / 24,8 Fahrenheit. It completely turns off and sometimes doesn't want to turn on again for quite a while and also don't take a charge. The temperature should normally not be a big deal for a phone and my girlfriend also owns a rn 5 global and she never had such a problem. I already did a reflash of miui and also now did a clean flash of Xiaomi EU rom as both didn't fixed it I also tried a different kernel now (basickernel by sgspluss) in combination with Xiaomi EU rom (phone was always rooted with magisk) but nothing helps. There is no massive battery drain and when I use a app to read CPU / battery temperature they seem also be okay. I have really no idea what could cause it I really hope someone here has an idea.
There are no Xiaomi service centers in my country.
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All phones are not meant to be use under low temperature, that's written on their papers, that no one's read, kkkk. So under very low temperature and high temperature, the phones shut down, so be cool, that's not a problem related to phone, is related to temperature. Just keep him warm, and will not shut down.
LGR0102 said:
All phones are not meant to be use under low temperature, that's written on their papers, that no one's read, kkkk. So under very low temperature and high temperature, the phones shut down, so be cool, that's not a problem related to phone, is related to temperature. Just keep him warm, and will not shut down.
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Between +2 and -4°c is not really a temperature for a phone to trigger temperature protection. Also non of my coworkers and even the phone from my girlfriend which is also a Redmi note 5 shut down at this temperature.
Cel00 said:
Between +2 and -4°c is not really a temperature for a phone to trigger temperature protection. Also non of my coworkers and even the phone from my girlfriend which is also a Redmi note 5 shut down at this temperature.
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Just saw on internet, that about -4°c the phone starts to shutdown randomly.
LGR0102 said:
Just saw on internet, that about -4°c the phone starts to shutdown randomly.
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I had -10c here and my phone not shuts down.
xell75 said:
I had -10c here and my phone not shuts down.
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Same here. I have seen my LCD getting a little frozen (ghosting effect was really visible) but no early shutdown
@Cel00
If out of two Whyreds You have, only one has this problem then it looks like a hardware damage
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Hi! The same problem is on my brother's phone.(redmi note 5) but not on my phone(redmi note 5).There are no Xiaomi service centers in my country..
MikiGry said:
Same here. I have seen my LCD getting a little frozen (ghosting effect was really visible) but no early shutdown
@Cel00
If out of two Whyreds You have, only one has this problem then it looks like a hardware damage
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Then it seems I'm the lucky one without any ghost effect issues, I'm in the 4th month of use now and I not had any serious issue yet (Including not any image retention/ghost effect)
Anyone ever notice their phone getting hot and shutting down features or even turning off? I know this might be kinda extreme... My 6 pro has been shutting down all sorts of things just to cool the phone and eventually shutting off. This has been happening while I'm in a sauna after working out with the lowest brightness on even. But my Note 10 plus never even mentioned anything to me ever even with full brightness. Thanks for the help
It happened to me once with a Galaxy S7 but it was in a heatwave that said I read on forums that several users complained about an overheating problem on the pixel 6.
As the chip is made in partnership with Samsung and it is well known that exynos chips overheat other than waiting for software upgrades or sending it back there is nothing that can be done.
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My 6 pro has been shutting down [...] while I'm in a sauna.
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But my Note 10 plus never even mentioned anything to me ever even with full brightness. Thanks for the help
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Interesting that your Note 10 Plus works in a sauna-environment. I would definitely call that an extreme situation where no phones needs to properly work, after all we are talking about an ambient temperature of ~ 65°C to 90°C, that's much hotter than even a desert. Most commercial products only operate up until 70° Celsius, Industrial usually up to 85°, Military ones even higher.
Personally I would never/have never taken my phone inside a sauna out of fear it might get damaged, after all it's a thousand dollar product. Treating it with care and caution is usually a wise choice, if longevity is of any concern.
Most smartphone (and desktop) processors can only take about ~100 Degrees Celsius (internal, chip temperature), before they throttle down into the abyss and try to cool down (to prevent permanent damage). But if they are in a sauna... there is no cooling down, lol. Afterall they lack a dedicated fan. As an example: It's a situation comparable with your ambient room temperature in the summer - if you have 30° Celsius in your room, but outside it's 40°, your room of course will not cool down, but heat up even more. ESPECIALLY not if you have several heaters on (= processor, display, et cetera).
That's why it's quite the achievement of your Note 10 to properly function in that kind of situation, that seems like a well-balanced phone in terms of heat/cooling. Props to Samsung in that case.
According to several reports in this forum, Tensor can get quite toasty, even in a normal environment. It shutting down in a sauna does not surprise me. There's probably nothing that you can do here, expect switch the phone or hope for a Google firmware update that lowers the coreclock.
I haven't had any overheating. I think the very first day when I was setting up the phone and restoring from my cloud backup it got a little warm, but mine hasn't overheated at all or shut down anything. I am probably not pushing the envelope of what any phone could handle, however.
Haven't witnessed any overheating on my unit.
Never had this happen on any of my recent phones including my Note 10 plus and my buddy has a new 20 Samsung as well.. No problems for them or anyone else with their iphones and a few others while they are in sauna as well.. even my samsung ear buds murder this thing lol
NOTE TO ALL POTENTIAL 6 OR 6P BUYERS: this is not a common phenomenon. Just want to put that out there.
I use GSAM bettery monitor (with the ADB mods) and it works great to watch the temp. Once or maybe twice it got warm (107F) when I was backing up the entire unit to my NAS (or vice versa). Ever since it gets warmer when I use it more, and then cooler when I don't.
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Anyone ever notice their phone getting hot and shutting down features or even turning off? I know this might be kinda extreme... My 6 pro has been shutting down all sorts of things just to cool the phone and eventually shutting off. This has been happening while I'm in a sauna after working out with the lowest brightness on even. But my Note 10 plus never even mentioned anything to me ever even with full brightness. Thanks for the help
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I think you answered your own question buddy... The temperature in the sauna ranges typically between 60oC to 95oC. Your Pixel phone is designed to operate up to 45oC at extreme situations.
I'm afraid the problem lies with the owner in your case, not the device itself.
A Sauna?! A SAUNA?? Did I read that right? I .... I .... I just don't understand. And when my sister "washes" her Galaxy S20 under the tap, the first thing she says: "Samsung says it's OK! The phone is Waterproof and Heat Proof and Mud Proof!" ... ok the last two things are false but every galaxy owner I've come across thinks their phone can be used in a shower, hmmm....
Again... I knew I would catch some crap for posting this.. but I'm trying to figure out why most and yes I said most phones do not have a problem including my old note 10+ and also my other friends phones and random people as well..
My Note would be full brightness and wouldn't even really feel hot. Warm yes and it would continue to work just perfect.. I even tried to put my 6 pro in battery saver mode which shuts down cores and it still could not last 5 mins at the lowest brightness.. My Note in performance mode and full brightness would last the full 25+ minutes I would be in there.
Looking for advice or answers. I've stated comparisons with the same scenarios with two completely different phones of my own along with others. One works great and another does not..