Question super fast charging - Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3

Why cant I see the toggle for super fast charging like on my s21 ultra on the z fold 3?only option is fast charging and fast wireless charging

Well if you plug in your fold with a 25w or 45w charger, it automatically appears as super fast charger. If you plug or wireless charge your phone with anything else it just bumps it down to fast charging(cable) or fast wireless charging.

That's odd. That was implemented on Android 10. Even my new Note 10+ running on Q has it, my 10+ running on Pie doesn't.
It's possible there's a toggle in Developer options.
There should be a toggle in Device Care.
Try doing a settings search for it.

Sonin66 said:
Well if you plug in your fold with a 25w or 45w charger, it automatically appears as super fast charger. If you plug or wireless charge your phone with anything else it just bumps it down to fast charging(cable) or fast wireless charging.
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sorry for the confusion..what I meant is when I go to settings and battery option on my s21 ultra I could see the super fast charging toggle button but on the z fold 3 I cant

blackhawk said:
That's odd. That was implemented on Android 10. Even my new Note 10+ running on Q has it, my 10+ running on Pie doesn't.
It's possible there's a toggle in Developer options.
There should be a toggle in Device Care.
Try doing a settings search for it.
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will try to check the device care but on the developer option I cant find it

my s21 ultra charges faster because it has that option

zmokez008 said:
sorry for the confusion..what I meant is when I go to settings and battery option on my s21 ultra I could see the super fast charging toggle button but on the z fold 3 I cant
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I know that the 21u said it but I think they removed it because it wasn't like the note 10 that really could take advantage of the 45w super fast charging. This is my guess as I wonder the same thing but saw when I used my 45w it still said super fast charging

Sonin66 said:
I know that the 21u said it but I think they removed it because it wasn't like the note 10 that really could take advantage of the 45w super fast charging. This is my guess as I wonder the same thing but saw when I used my 45w it still said super fast charging
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my z fold 3 only says fast charging not super fast charging even when I use the same charging brick use on s21u while when I use it on s21u its shows super fast charging

Sonin66 said:
I know that the 21u said it but I think they removed it because it wasn't like the note 10 that really could take advantage of the 45w super fast charging. This is my guess as I wonder the same thing but saw when I used my 45w it still said super fast charging
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On Android 9, 25 w brick it shows fast charging.
On Android 10, same 25 w brick shows super fast charging.
Both are charging at the same rate I believe.
Semantics is all it is; it sounds like it charges faster
As long as it's charging at about 2%@minute, it's fast charging. Slow charging is 1%@minute.
At around 80% it will ramp down to 1%@minute when fast charging.
At 90% it will ramp down again to 1%@about every 1-2 minutes.
If the temp is too low fast charging will not engage. If it gets too high fast charging will disengage or stop charging entirely.

zmokez008 said:
my z fold 3 only says fast charging not super fast charging even when I use the same charging brick use on s21u while when I use it on s21u its shows super fast charging
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This is on the Samsung 45w charger I have

blackhawk said:
On Android 9, 25 w brick it shows fast charging.
On Android 10, same 25 w brick shows super fast charging.
Both are charging at the same rate I believe.
Semantics is all it is; it sounds like it charges faster
As long as it's charging at about 2%@minute, it's fast charging. Slow charging is 1%@minute.
At around 80% it will ramp down to 1%@minute when fast charging.
At 90% it will ramp down again to 1%@about every 1-2 minutes.
If the temp is too low fast charging will not engage. If it gets too high fast charging will disengage or stop charging entirely.
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So thats how it is...I dont know if its just me or I just feel Its a little bit slower like at least 25mins slower..anyway will try to take a deeper look into it on the settings..thanks for the response guys!

blackhawk said:
On Android 9, 25 w brick it shows fast charging.
On Android 10, same 25 w brick shows super fast charging.
Both are charging at the same rate I believe.
Semantics is all it is; it sounds like it charges faster
As long as it's charging at about 2%@minute, it's fast charging. Slow charging is 1%@minute.
At around 80% it will ramp down to 1%@minute when fast charging.
At 90% it will ramp down again to 1%@about every 1-2 minutes.
If the temp is too low fast charging will not engage. If it gets too high fast charging will disengage or stop charging entirely.
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I think it's also semantics but it does charge faster than my old chargers I had lying around which is why I opted to get the 25w charger from samsung when buying my fold 3

Sonin66 said:
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This is on the Samsung 45w charger I have
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when try again later when I get home thanks

zmokez008 said:
when try again later when I get home thanks
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The 25w charger says the same(super fast charging). These are official Samsung chargers using type c to type c. Maybe that's your prob as you won't get the fastest charge using type a to type c

Sonin66 said:
I think it's also semantics but it does charge faster than my old chargers I had lying around which is why I opted to get the 25w charger from samsung when buying my fold 3
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Well I have two hardware identical Note 10+'s, the older one had the battery replaced a few months so both batteries are fairly fresh.
The only difference is the OS version/firmware.
They both fast charge at the same speed but the newer one calls it super fast charging.
I'll try hooking the newer one up to a 10-15 w brick and see what it says.
Android 10, the new bad gf

blackhawk said:
Well I have two hardware identical Note 10+'s, the older one had the battery replaced a few months so both batteries are fairly fresh.
The only difference is the OS version/firmware.
They both fast charge at the same speed but the newer one calls it super fast charging.
I'll try hooking the newer one up to a 10-15 w brick and see what it says.
Android 10, the new bad gf
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Let us know the turn out! I honestly don't know why Samsung turned off our phones from really super fast charging using all the 45w. Instead they capped us off to only going to 25w max. I'm only guessing a lot of people were frying their phones or their batteries didn't last long

Sonin66 said:
Let us know the turn out! I honestly don't know why Samsung turned off our phones from really super fast charging using all the 45w. Instead they capped us off to only going to 25w max. I'm only guessing a lot of people were frying their phones or their batteries didn't last long
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The 45 w brick isn't that much faster overall.
It peak boost is in the first 40%, exactly the range where you don't want to discharge into and where you don't want to stress the battery even further with heavy current loading when charging.
A lot of that energy at the higher wattage is wasted as heat; it never reaches the surface of the plates to charge anything.

Fold 3 chargue 25w maxime

First to answer the question, there is only a toggle for fast charging on the phone, none for super fast charging even though it can "super fast charge".
The fold 3 supports PD and PPS with respective volt/amp charging as per the attached Pic. To get it to say super fast charging, your charger needs to be PPS capable to give it the full 25watts, otherwise it will drop to 15-18watt charging and only show fast charging. The difference between fast charging and super fast charging on the fold 3 only shows a 10 minute variance realistically.
From prior research, Samsung brand super fast Chargers only actually charge at a max of 22 watts.(using PD [email protected], at 90% efficiency)
Tbh The only time I've found super fast charging to be really worth the difference is when driving and using GPS with the screen on and open. Or if you're using the inner screen while charging with the brightness up

My Z Fold 3 on the stock Samsung 25W USB C to USB C wall charger.
My Note 20 Ultra 5G on the stock Samsung 25W USB C to USB C wall charger. Both Super Fast Charge and show it. They even light up the blue charging animation circle.

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A way to charge faster?

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Hey, do you all know a way to charge the phone faster? maybe a kernel or something? It charges so slow and thats the only reason why i would return this phone. It's very annoying.
Solution: Get the charger in the pic below. it's amazing how much faster it charges and it charges the battery that is in the charger as well. 40 bucks.. def worth it.
I have noticed that when my phone battery is really low, if plugged into a usb port via charging cable that came with the phone, the phone still died. It does take a long time to charge though, is this due to the larger battery?
Charging really sucks
I noticed that yesterday more than ever. I was driving for many hours, and the whole time I had my phone plugged in. After a 13 hour day my phone would still not go above 15%. Granted I was using google maps and listening to podcasts on doggcatcher, but my evo never had a problem charging to 100% doing the same thing. Then I noticed the red notification light that turns on while charging was not even on. I turned off the phone removed the battery for a minute, then when I turned it back on and pugged it in the light came back on again. I hope I didnt just get a defective phone.
It's samsung i think. the regular galaxy s phones charge slow too. smh very annoying. the battery has nothing to do with it because I had an extended batter 3200MAH that be charging father than this on the Nexus 1 (HTC).. htc has better changing capabilties
Only way to charge it faster is to turn the phone off when charging. This is not a phone where you can throw it in the charger for 30 minutes and expect a quick recharge to last you through the evening (like HTC or Motorola phones).
Econ212 said:
I have noticed that when my phone battery is really low, if plugged into a usb port via charging cable that came with the phone, the phone still died. It does take a long time to charge though, is this due to the larger battery?
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USB can provide .5A. The phone, when pushed to the limit can draw more than that which may be why your phone was actually discharging.
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stepinmyworld said:
Hey, do you all know a way to charge the phone faster? maybe a kernel or something? It charges so slow and thats the only reason why i would return this phone. It's very annoying.
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How long is long? 2-3 hours for a full charge is normal when on AC power, 4-6 when on USB.
This assumes your are not actively using the phone, aka no gaming, netflix, etc.
i actually think this thing charges fast compared to the evo 3d. Mine charges fully from dead in about 1 1/2 hours.
i use the charger brick from my ipod instead of the samsung one though. It may put out more juice then that jacked up samsung one. that thing stinks, plus causes screen issues
I ran in to this with my EVO when Running Bluetooth, Full Bright and GPS while in the car. I purchased a 2amp charger for the car and have not had the same issues since going to 2.0amp.
Well I have tried this twice, and saw that battery charged faster. (but that's just me... Have not really tested to prove it really makes a difference)
I installed battery calibration from market and did that full charge and unplugged 10x then let drain. When I charged the phone it did it in record time since I had the phone.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled program...
Econ212 said:
I have noticed that when my phone battery is really low, if plugged into a usb port via charging cable that came with the phone, the phone still died. It does take a long time to charge though, is this due to the larger battery?
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The phone will only draw 450mA from a USB port. It can easily use more than that while running misc. tasks. You should only use a high Amperage charger when your battery is low (1A or higher) and limit USB cable use to when you're just transferring data or when you don't have another option.
Also the phone only uses 650mA MAX to charge the battery. The difference in what the 1A stock charger is able to provide should presumably allow you to run your phone at the same time without reducing the charging current. If this is true than a 1.5-2A charger would be ideal, allowing a fully dead battery to be charged in about 3 hours regardless of use.
BTW, this info is taken based on the work done with the i9100 sgs2. They currently have kernels that raise the charging rates to 550 and 750 respectively.
walord said:
The phone will only draw 450mA from a USB port. It can easily use more than that while running misc. tasks. You should only use a high Amperage charger when your battery is low (1A or higher) and limit USB cable use to when you're just transferring data or when you don't have another option.
Also the phone only uses 650mA MAX to charge the battery. The difference in what the 1A stock charger is able to provide should presumably allow you to run your phone at the same time without reducing the charging current. If this is true than a 1.5-2A charger would be ideal, allowing a fully dead battery to be charged in about 3 hours regardless of use.
BTW, this info is taken based on the work done with the i9100 sgs2. They currently have kernels that raise the charging rates to 550 and 750 respectively.
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Well we have someone a few post back that claims to charge battery from dead to full in 1 and 1/2 hours.
Mine takes at least 3 hrs to charge. My Nexus S takes 3 and 1/2 to 6 hrs.
I have use chargers ranging from .7a to 2a.
these top-shelf phones tend to user more power than necessary for a lot of functions. first off, if you're rooted try lowering the max frequency with setcpu and / or change the governor to conservative, or (recommended) on-demand with the power-save bias to about 450-700 so it increases to say 800mhz instead of 1200 (or about 250-400 bias for standard usage).
if you use the navigator a lot, you can put it in airplane mode after about 5min of travel and out will cache the rest of your route. gps still works in airplane mode. if you're at work you could always use airplane mode between breaks.
also try setting your display mode to standard instead of dynamic (if not already) when you have no plans to use apps that beg to be eye-candy.
remove unnecessary bloat widgets like calendar, google search, and task manager shortcut (they run services) and kill background data as often as you can.
airplane mode and/or max 500 freq while charging.
if you're using zedomax OC kernel v1 2 or 3, reboot the phone before you leave it idle for extended periods of time because it seems to have trouble underclocking again, our update to the v4.1 beta kernel (or newer) available on downloadandroidrom.com
this post took 8% of my battery
What are the odds we will get SBC coded into our kernel's, or was/is this just a HTC thing?
Mine works perfect. From about 15-20%, if I plug it in the wall, I'll get to full in about 1.5 hours.
wait how you do it?
There's an app 4 the Touch Pro2 called nueBattery2 that'd actually increase the draw from USB from .5mA to 1mA. Is this not possible 4 the E4GT?
The phone has to think it's plugged into AC to ask for more than 450 mah.
I believe it checks this via shorted data cables of the USB cord. The stock charger shorts those cables so the phone knows it can draw more amps. Settings/about phone /status will show you if its drawing 450 (USB) or more (AC). Using a non-oem wall charger can result in (USB) charging instead of AC even if the charger says 1000mah. Using a pure charging USB cable with the data wires setup correctly, plugged into a computer can give you AC charge rate albeit no data connection to your computer.
whatsitsnamenow said:
Only way to charge it faster is to turn the phone off when charging. This is not a phone where you can throw it in the charger for 30 minutes and expect a quick recharge to last you through the evening (like HTC or Motorola phones).
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+1 on this. Noticed that if I turn the phone off when charging it charges twice as fast.
R1ptide said:
The phone has to think it's plugged into AC to ask for more than 450 mah.
I believe it checks this via shorted data cables of the USB cord. The stock charger shorts those cables so the phone knows it can draw more amps. Settings/about phone /status will show you if its drawing 450 (USB) or more (AC). Using a non-oem wall charger can result in (USB) charging instead of AC even if the charger says 1000mah. Using a pure charging USB cable with the data wires setup correctly, plugged into a computer can give you AC charge rate albeit no data connection to your computer.
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That is correct. I use a USB cigarette outlet adapter in my car and running navigation and playing music at the same time would kill the battery while charging... until i shorted the two middle pins in the adapter.
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...i shorted the two middle pins in the adapter.
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So, would this wrk w/ USB cables, & is there a way 2 still allow sync? Couldja post a pic or instructions?

2A charger vs included 1A?

Hey all, question here about chargers.
I have 3 chargers at my disposal, a Samsung travel charger @0.7A, included charger block @ 1.0A, and my HP Touchpad block @ 2.0A.
The touchpad charger charges from empty to full in 3h15m, uninterrupted. Not blindingly fast, but good.
The included one takes around 4+ hours.
The travel one is so slow, check out the screenshot below, over 5 hours and at 94% only.
Question is, is there any detriment to using the non standard included charging brick or can I use the higher amperage charger safely?
Thanks
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mettleh3d said:
Question is, is there any detriment to using the non standard included charging brick or can I use the higher amperage charger safely?
Thanks
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None whatsoever.
ive been reading that the phone is capped at ~0.65A for charge rate
@mettleh3d
if you had turned off WiFi it would probably have reached 100% before 5 hours using the 0.7A charger
using the included 1A charger it takes exactly 3hr+45m to go from 0% to 100% measured
AllGamer said:
using the included 1A charger
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Was I cheated by T-Mo? The charger that came with mine is labeled "travel charger" and is .7A.
Actually guys, there are drawbacks to using higher amperage.
The standard charger of 1.0 amps was bundled with the battery because it was engineered that this combination would yield around 300 charging cycles before the battery starts losing it's efficiency.
The faster (higher amps) a charger you use the faster your phone will charge. However, fast charging cycles negatively affect the longevity of the battery. Fast charging cycles also will severely increase the charging temperature of the phone and its battery and depending on how high it gets, it may be detrimental to the phone or battery. The higher amps the charger is, the quicker the battery will start being less efficient. Put in other words, if you use a 2 amp charger every day, the battery may only last 200 charging cycles before you start noticing that your battery is getting weak.
Conversely, if you use a lower-specced charger than the 1.0 Amps Samsung provided, your battery longevity may improve. I do not have numbers exactly but if you are interested, go read on the subject. My guess is if you use the 0.7 amp charger, you may be able to successfully get 320 or 330 charge cycles out of your battery. Again, don't quote me on these numbers.
I'd suggest for every-day usage you continue using your 1.0 Amp charger that Samsung provided. For travel or on the spot (when you quickly need battery juice) feel free to use the 2.0 amp charger. As long as you don't use the 2.0 charger every day, you are fine. Every now and then is perfectly acceptable.
thanks alienz, was hoping for a detailed response like this.
Technically phones have regulators that only allow an amount of amps to be charged with. But I would only charge with the Samsung included one. Like I tried to use Apples charger block but it somehow charged my phone slower
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yup, i can confirm from experience from my previous phones
it's mostly the heat that damages the battery, it doesn't really affect the phone itself
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The faster (higher amps) a charger you use the faster your phone will charge. However, fast charging cycles negatively affect the longevity of the battery. Fast charging cycles also will severely increase the charging temperature of the phone and its battery and depending on how high it gets, it may be detrimental to the phone or battery. The higher amps the charger is, the quicker the battery will start being less efficient. Put in other words, if you use a 2 amp charger every day, the battery may only last 200 charging cycles before you start noticing that your battery is getting weak.
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IMO my time is worth more than a few extra cycles of a battery. Just pick up a few extra ones. Not like the OEM will last forever if you trickle .001 A into it every time.
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madman604 said:
IMO my time is worth more than a few extra cycles of a battery. Just pick up a few extra ones. Not like the OEM will last forever if you trickle .001 A into it every time.
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i carry always a spare pack with me
and an extra one is always ready in the office, and another at home, and one more in the car, i keep swapping the car one more often just because it's winter and it's also the one that will get charged the least if i leave it in the glove box
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i carry always a spare pack with me
and an extra one is always ready in the office, and another at home, and one more in the car, i keep swapping the car one more often just because it's winter and it's also the one that will get charged the least if i leave it in the glove box
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That thing you said about heat...
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That thing you said about heat...
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really cold batteries dont work.
First a little ohms law: I = V / R. Amps(I) = Volts(V) divided by Resistance(R)
The phone charger probably puts out 5 Volts (mine does). The resistance is determined by the phone. So the charge current is not going to change just because you have a 2amp charger vs a 1amp charger. The only way to force more amps into the phone is to increase the voltage of the charger. For example say the phone resistance is 5 ohms, then the charger will put out 1 amp (5V/5R). To charge at 2 amps, you would need to up the voltage to 10 volts. DO NOT DO THAT! YOU WILL DISTROY THE PHONE!
It is also probable that the phone has an internal charging circuit to control the actual current to the battery, so that if you leave the charger plugged into the phone, the battery does not overcharge. That circuit is going to cut off the voltage to the battery when is senses the battery is fully charged.
If the phone is trying to pull more amps then the charger can provide, the charger will be getting quite hot. As long as the charger is not hot, then it is providing enough current for the phone to charge properly.
While your logic is sound, the HP touchpad charger definitely charges the device faster than the included brick.
The phones internal charging circuit will only draw as many milliamps as its designed for.
If its designed to only draw 750mA because thats all the circuit is designed to draw max on A/C then thats all it will draw off the 2000mA adapter.
The speedier charging is a placebo effect.
Just because a power source can supply it does not mean the device will use it all.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332522
read this. exhaustive testing and info !
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332522
read this. exhaustive testing and info !
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A faster charge off the OEM adapter that outputs 750mA as opposed to a usb port that outputs 450-500mA max is not new news or surprising and makes total sense
This also does not negate my statement of the device will only charge as fast as the circuit allows it to. so if its designed for 750mA max, charging from a 2000mA charger will yield the same charge in the same amount of time but with a placebo effect, because users think bigger must mean faster, with out taking into account the basics of charging circuit mechanics and basic properties of electricity and current.
Your phone will only draw as much current as it needs to charge the battery, and if the circuit only needs 750mA, it is not designed to work with any more, then thats all it will pull, always. No exceptions.
I can test with all 3 chargers and post my results.
They will be from 0% to 100% no breaks, on airplane mode, and i wont touch the device other than to monitor progress now and again; probably overnight. battery indicator pro shows what time i plugged in and what time it reached 100%, i'll take screenshots throughout.
While I don't refute the circuitry inside and the rules they obey (im an MAE from UCLA), i really want to show that charging time is decreased with the 2A.
I can think of a couple of reasons it might charge slower with the 1amp charger.
1. The phone will pull more than 1amp when charging. I doubt that it does. I think the nominal charge rate is somewhere around 750mA.
2. The 1amp charger is defective. Maybe it only puts out 500mA. These little chargers are pretty realiable, but out of the millions they make, a few defective ones may get out.
3. The phone was not in the same state when you did the tests. For example, if you are overclocking, maybe you had different clock rates or governer selected. Or maybe there are some background apps, waking up, and slowing the charging time.
4. You are mistaken about how long it takes to charge.
-LF

UCH10 Fast charging not working

I have just bought the UCH10 from Sony to try out on the fast charging, its seems charging at the same rate as a regular 2.1A Charger.. Anyone facing this issue?
finoqq84 said:
I have just bought the UCH10 from Sony to try out on the fast charging, its seems charging at the same rate as a regular 2.1A Charger.. Anyone facing this issue?
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I don't know about the UCH10, but I know with my Powergen charger I see it going into HV (fast charge) mode. (The charger I have has an indicator for when it's in 9v mode).
However, I have noticed this device's thermal throttling is pretty aggressive. You need to let the thing idle if you expect it to charge at any reasonable rate thanks to the Snapdragon 810 being a power hog.
Confimed the UCh10 charger fast charge working
Only got 13% from 1% for 15mins
What happened!!
Mine came with the UCH10 charger and am using my short Sony usb cable that came with my headset (EC300). I went from 4% to 100% in 1 hour and 35 mins. At the end of the day with my bluetooth headset and smart watch conneted all day (12 hours) moderate use emails,mms,calls. I have about 42% remaining. It only seams to be getting better with each charge. Today it went from 5% to 100% in 1 hour and 22 mins.
Perheps Sony's fast charging is to speed up overall charging at a faster rate. As i was from Note 5, its charging takes only 10 mins to jump from 5% to 38%!!
Perheps they are both using different fast charging tech?
finoqq84 said:
Perheps Sony's fast charging is to speed up overall charging at a faster rate. As i was from Note 5, its charging takes only 10 mins to jump from 5% to 38%!!
Perheps they are both using different fast charging tech?
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Both are using the same under different names. Samsung named it "Adaptive fast charging" and the rest use qualcomm's name "Quick charge".
For example mine is in the box with standard 1.5 normal charger, but I am using the charger from my dead note 4 (yes it is a quick charger one) which is charging z5p at the same speed like my note 4. Also I am monittoring the charge rate, and I can confirm that samis Adaptive charger charging at max using qualcomm's quick charge standard our z5p devices.
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If note 5 charging so fast it must be another tech from Samsung (or wrong battery stats - believe me I experienced these few times on my note 4 during flashing AOSP roms).
Cheers
Edit 2:
I can remember that note 4 when stock (tw) is charging much more aggressively during initial charge (upto around 50%, and then it just slow down), while AOSP is fast charging constantly (lower rate compared to samis stock tw rom) but use quck charge upto 90-95%.. It is a setting at the end. Yoi can force set this with custom kernel.

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the ZTE Axon 7 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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On Quick Charge, it's fast. On a older computer, it's painfully slow. In my car, on a standard charger, it's not too bad. I just bought a QC 3.0 charger for my car and it'll charge about 30% in my 35 minute drive home (have to test that some more).
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On Quick Charge, it's fast. On a older computer, it's painfully slow. In my car, on a standard charger, it's not too bad. I just bought a QC 3.0 charger for my car and it'll charge about 30% in my 35 minute drive home (have to test that some more).
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I would double check the charger port and make sure your plugging into the QC 3.0 port, and not the 2.0A port (not sure if yours has one as well or not) my Axon 7 charges about 45-50% in my 25 minutes ride home so It doesnt sound like its charging quite as fast, unless its QC2.0
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I would double check the charger port and make sure your plugging into the QC 3.0 port, and not the 2.0A port (not sure if yours has one as well or not) my Axon 7 charges about 45-50% in my 25 minutes ride home so It doesnt sound like its charging quite as fast, unless its QC2.0
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Which car charger you have?
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Have tried to push the battery as hard as I can while charging at the same time. The phone won't stall or drop charge thankfully. Gets a little hot but nothing like other phones I've owned (Nexus 6P would boil, OnePlus one would slowly drop battery until it died, iPhone 5s would get too hot to touch, HTC M7 would also become too hot to touch and unresponsive). If you're wondering if you can use this phone with GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi Hotspot, Data, Spotify while charging at the same time you can.
B27 A2017U, From 37% to 95% in 45 minutes. 5 minutes of screen and one 5 min call during charging. I won't use fast charge often because I don't need it, battery health is more important to me.
Charging speed is very fast. Battery life is great. I usually have ~20% left after running it from about 6AM to 11PM. I did misconnect the charger dongle one night, and so was at 11% starting the day. I switched to ultra power saving mode and was at 10% at the end of the day!?!
Charging speeds tbh are fairly decent. On QC 3.0 i get about 95% in about 1 hour. Nothing compared to Dash charge on the OP3, that method is insanely fast. To compare OP3's 3000 mah takes about 40~45 minutes to top off. Considering the additional 250maH on the Axon, i think the 1 hour approx charging time is good. I suppose once you get the taste of Dash charging, QC becomes less palatable
P.S. Axon's power saving mechanisms are actually quite good. No need for any 3rd party apps. I don't miss Greenify considering the background apps get killed when the screen goes off. So battery life being decent is a good trade off.
I've been impressed by the charging speed. It's close to the Moto X Pure that I loved.
I've personally never had a phone that had any type of quick charge until this phone, so I'm certainly impressed.
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Question: is QC3 a killer of battery? Is charging at low amp better, or...? Cuz I read here and there that it's still better to use a slow speed charging device so that the battery doesn't heat up and doesn't wear off too fast.
What are your thoughts about that?
LeKeiser said:
Hello
Question: is QC3 a killer of battery? Is charging at low amp better, or...? Cuz I read here and there that it's still better to use a slow speed charging device so that the battery doesn't heat up and doesn't wear off too fast.
What are your thoughts about that?
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If you charge it before you sleep, I would use a charger with a lower am so it can prolong the battery's life. Using quick charge 3.0 is convenient, but it will certainly decrease the battery's life over a period of time.
Before bed: Not recommended to use another adapter to charge any phone that didn't come with it, but I would use a different adapter with a slower charging rate and voltage.
When you're about to go out or etc: Quick charge 3.0
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I use the Aukey charger. I have 2 portable QC3 and one "traditional" QC3 also. And I forgot which brand but a good one as a slow speed charger.
I thought that QC3 was different than the "old" high speed charger because it had something to do directly with the SnapDragon. The "old" high speed chargers are just sending more amps like 2A or more, while QC3 is more "controlled" so it didn't affect the battery. Am I totally wrong?
Has anyone noticed their charging time increase by 10-20 minutes or so? Could be my imagination as I also have an op3 now..
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Has anyone noticed their charging time increase by 10-20 minutes or so? Could be my imagination as I also have an op3 now..
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Probably your imagination. Dash charge is much faster that QC. If your phone's charging up in an hour it's fine.
bonk3rzzz said:
Probably your imagination. Dash charge is much faster that QC. If your phone's charging up in an hour it's fine.
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even faster than QC3.0?
LeKeiser said:
even faster than QC3.0?
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Oh yes absolutely. I came from an OP3 to Axon. It's the only thing I miss about the OnePlus 3. And the ROM. And the front finger print scanner. And updates.
On a more serious note, Dash charge is really fantastic. As advertised. 3000 mAh takes 40 to 45 mins, but the most important feature is that it doesn't heat the phone up and using the OP3 while charging is a better experience.
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I think QC3 is already pretty fast, so... Charging low speed when I'm not in a rush, following some (your?) advices here.
I had ordered a 1+3 and canceled when I saw the Axon7, but I had also a Dash Charger on the way and couldn't cancel that one. Too bad they're two different technologies
The 1+3T is... nice
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I think QC3 is already pretty fast, so... Charging low speed when I'm not in a rush, following some (your?) advices here.
I had ordered a 1+3 and canceled when I saw the Axon7, but I had also a Dash Charger on the way and couldn't cancel that one. Too bad they're two different technologies
The 1+3T is... nice
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Yeah i absolutely hate the existence of the op3t cause it has everything that op3 didn't. And yeah don't use the dash charger with anything else unless you like watching things getting smoked up.
LeKeiser said:
Hello
Question: is QC3 a killer of battery? Is charging at low amp better, or...? Cuz I read here and there that it's still better to use a slow speed charging device so that the battery doesn't heat up and doesn't wear off too fast.
What are your thoughts about that?
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I don't trust it to keep the battery in good condition over a long time. So I use a normal charger instead.

Any Wireless Charging Amateurs? Need Your Feedback!

Can someone give me some feedback related to BATTERY LIFE in terms of wired vs wireless charging (fast charging disabled)?
I already know that fast charging CAN reduce battery life. Do we have any info on wireless charging? Since it's an inductive charging, some part of it's energy it's released as heat (not used for charging) and I think it SHOULD affect the battery.
The wireless charger I bought is a Wireless Qi Fast Charge Standing Samsung EP-N5100 with fans incorporated to reduce the heating. (Yeah, I use it on a compatible Samsung smartphone)
I made the mistake to have the fast charge active for some time (didn't know it was active by default), but I only charge it from 40 to 80 so I hope no less damage has been done. Since I plan to keep the phone for a while (I doubt I'll switch in 2 years), I want to try and be careful with the battery.
I've charged my S7 for 2 years almost only wireless (fast charging) and I've had no issues. I keep charging my S9 almost only wireless and I think that for the 2 years (max) I'm keeping a phone, I'll not have any battery related problems.
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raducanmihai said:
I've charged my S7 for 2 years almost only wireless (fast charging) and I've had no issues. I keep charging my S9 almost only wireless and I think that for the 2 years (max) I'm keeping a phone, I'll not have any battery related problems.
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Thanks. My girlfriend used only fast charging/wireless fast charging and it screwed up her battery life on the S7. Or maybe she let the battery go frok 100 to 0 too many times
Merci pentru raspuns.
Fast charging absolutely wrecked the batteries of HTC 10s, I only use USB-PD now since it's a bit less aggressive than QC3
I'm gonna post something someone told me.
"Just 4u I did a non scientific test tonight using my s9+. Each test ran for 20 minutes. Baseline is phone at rest with all apps closed.
Fast cable charging raised temp 3F.
Fast wireless charging raised temp 15F. (Using 2018 Samsung fast charger)
Slow wireless charging raised temp 11F. (Same charger, not using supplied power supply, forcing slow charging)"
"During my test fast wireless charging didn't get even close to the 113F top limit recommended by Battery University. I wouldn't worry so much. Batteries are finicky, and yours may or may not degrade slowly regardless of the care you take in babying it."

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