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Sup 'droids...
It's time for a new phone and I'm on the hunt doing research. Such a hard choice! I've had a Galaxy S1, S3 and S5 and loved them all so I went and got the S6 the other day without ever reading about it. When I went to install my ROM of choice I found out that Samsung is now officially releasing only the douche ROM...so I returned it 3 days later.
I read that the 5X was going to be released soon and also read some stuff on the Moto X Play (which is what it's called here in Canada, available at Telus). The 5X seems ok...I could potentially wait a month for that delivery (if Telus even carries it), or I could go get the Play or the G4 today--which seems to be the forerunner at this point due to it having slightly better specs than the Play.
My questions relate to custom ROM experiences. I like to have AOSP support with all the fancy settings available to me! I especially like hardware keys. My S3 was able to turn the flashlight on by holding the home key. I know the G4 doesn't have hardware buttons anymore so I'm not even sure if that's a thing. Maybe volume keys instead? That might create problems with track seeking though. Whatever...as long as there are options lol.
So...what kind of experiences--good and bad--have you guys had with this phone? Is there good ROM support? It seems like M will be out soon...does that mean the code will also be available for developers? I see a few ROM's available but unfortunately I can't test them out because I don't actually have the phone.
I'm sure I'll have more questions but thought I'd get a discussion going for those interested in sharing their experiences.
Thanks.
i'm somehow convinced that when the official android M update from LG finally released, the developer scene would start to bud here and there.
but for now, i think the developers are gathering only in some unlocked bootloader variants...
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I read that the 5X was going to be released soon and also read some stuff on the Moto X Play (which is what it's called here in Canada, available at Telus). The 5X seems ok...I could potentially wait a month for that delivery (if Telus even carries it), or I could go get the Play or the G4 today--which seems to be the forerunner at this point due to it having slightly better specs than the Play.
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The play is a midranger with a good battery not comparable with a flagship like the G4. Maybe you were thinking of the Style or Pure as its known in the US.
My questions relate to custom ROM experiences. I like to have AOSP support with all the fancy settings available to me! I especially like hardware keys. My S3 was able to turn the flashlight on by holding the home key. I know the G4 doesn't have hardware buttons anymore so I'm not even sure if that's a thing. Maybe volume keys instead? That might create problems with track seeking though. Whatever...as long as there are options lol.
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Not too much at the moment. Just root. To use xposed entails risk as there is no recovery. Unless you can source a H815 euro variant of the G4.
I'm sure I'll have more questions but thought I'd get a discussion going for those interested in sharing their experiences.
Thanks.
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What you need from roms ? that stock with root can't give you.
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What you need from roms ? that stock with root can't give you.
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I'll be honest, I was about to use my middlefinger to write an aggressive post for you but the intelligent part of my brain said "STOP! THINK!". So I thought...and thought again. Coming from Nexus devices running CM only, on the G4 I have yet to find a reason to even consider a custom ROM. I sometimes miss the pure Android but that's all about it. It's the first time since my Nokia E72 in 2007 I did not switched a ROM for more than a month. Let's see where this goes. Good point mate!
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Coming from Nexus devices running CM only, on the G4 I have yet to find a reason to even consider a custom ROM. I sometimes miss the pure Android but that's all about it. It's the first time since my Nokia E72 in 2007 I did not switched a ROM for more than a month. Let's see where this goes. Good point mate!
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Will you be able to convince the OP of that ?
Otherwise he needs to look elsewhere.
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Sup 'droids...
It's time for a new phone and I'm on the hunt doing research. Such a hard choice! I've had a Galaxy S1, S3 and S5 and loved them all so I went and got the S6 the other day without ever reading about it. When I went to install my ROM of choice I found out that Samsung is now officially releasing only the douche ROM...so I returned it 3 days later.
I read that the 5X was going to be released soon and also read some stuff on the Moto X Play (which is what it's called here in Canada, available at Telus). The 5X seems ok...I could potentially wait a month for that delivery (if Telus even carries it), or I could go get the Play or the G4 today--which seems to be the forerunner at this point due to it having slightly better specs than the Play.
My questions relate to custom ROM experiences. I like to have AOSP support with all the fancy settings available to me! I especially like hardware keys. My S3 was able to turn the flashlight on by holding the home key. I know the G4 doesn't have hardware buttons anymore so I'm not even sure if that's a thing. Maybe volume keys instead? That might create problems with track seeking though. Whatever...as long as there are options lol.
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It's too early for the G4 now. Currently only the EU H815 model has an unlockable bootloader. LG's official page says more devices will be added to the list soon, but I wouldn't count on that. Since you're from Canada and propably won't get the H815 on contract, it'd be risky. If I had your patience, I'd wait for the 5X. You seem to be an Android purist. I wouldn't want to deal with a device running a custom version of Android. Also, even if CM or any other AOSP ROM would make its way to the various variants of the G4, they're going to have these little issues here and there because of bad or missing documentation from the manufacturer. It'll be a buggy experience overall. For example, I'm sure the camera will be a mess on CM/AOSP/A
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So...what kind of experiences--good and bad--have you guys had with this phone? Is there good ROM support? It seems like M will be out soon...does that mean the code will also be available for developers? I see a few ROM's available but unfortunately I can't test them out because I don't actually have the phone.
I'm sure I'll have more questions but thought I'd get a discussion going for those interested in sharing their experiences.
Thanks.
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It's great so far. Running vanilla Android was a nice experience but I got bored. Having a custom UI with the option to use a custom vanilla Android is the perfect place for me. But as I said, right now I have no reason to go vanilla.
5X = 32gig no sd
G4 = sd
I can't live with 32gig so G4 fills all my needs. Stock too.
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Thanks for the input guy! I'm glad to hear that the G4 won't have much ROM support for some time--not that I'm glad for the *lack* of support, I'm just happy that I was informed of this *before* I made my purchase lol. There are some things that vanilla doesn't seem to offer me. Some features are not needed (pie and other recent/quick access features, and others I can't even think of cos I never turn them on in my current ROM lol); however, the ability to alter the power menu, the ability to add custom hardware keys (mainly for flashlight; if not a hardware key, then at least a toggle in the tray, or in the power menu), status bar changes (clock, color, battery % in numbers, double-tap for screen off), led control, etc (perhaps all these can be altered with apps or via Xposed. @onetwelve You said above there could be problems with Xposed because there's no recovery. You mean TWRP recovery? You can't mean that, so I'm confused :s).
The lack of camera support would suck. I am by no means a photographer; the main thing I use my camera for are taking random photos and also taking quick snapshots that require a fast-focus to be achieved. It's frustrating when camera apps don't work properly. I think pretty much every camera is going to be good enough for my purposes. 21MP vs 16MP = whoopdeedoo.
SD card support is not a concern for me. I've lived with 16GB for years and it's almost never been a problem unless I record a bunch of videos before I get home. I don't put music on my device (only audiobooks). Getting a 32GB internal memory phone would be like landing in a pot of gold haha!
My buddy has been nagging me to get an iPhone 6 and jailbreak it--he says I'll never turn back...but I'm not sure, I love Android and don't really wanna learn a whole new interface.
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Thanks for the input guy! I'm glad to hear that the G4 won't have much ROM support for some time--not that I'm glad for the *lack* of support, I'm just happy that I was informed of this *before* I made my purchase lol. There are some things that vanilla doesn't seem to offer me. Some features are not needed (pie and other recent/quick access features, and others I can't even think of cos I never turn them on in my current ROM lol); however, the ability to alter the power menu, the ability to add custom hardware keys (mainly for flashlight; if not a hardware key, then at least a toggle in the tray, or in the power menu), status bar changes (clock, color, battery % in numbers, double-tap for screen off), led control, etc (perhaps all these can be altered with apps or via Xposed. @onetwelve You said above there could be problems with Xposed because there's no recovery. You mean TWRP recovery? You can't mean that, so I'm confused :s).
The lack of camera support would suck. I am by no means a photographer; the main thing I use my camera for are taking random photos and also taking quick snapshots that require a fast-focus to be achieved. It's frustrating when camera apps don't work properly. I think pretty much every camera is going to be good enough for my purposes. 21MP vs 16MP = whoopdeedoo.
SD card support is not a concern for me. I've lived with 16GB for years and it's almost never been a problem unless I record a bunch of videos before I get home. I don't put music on my device (only audiobooks). Getting a 32GB internal memory phone would be like landing in a pot of gold haha!
My buddy has been nagging me to get an iPhone 6 and jailbreak it--he says I'll never turn back...but I'm not sure, I love Android and don't really wanna learn a whole new interface.
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There is no custom recovery as in there is none for the G4 variant you most likely will be getting in Canada, as of now. However, there are reports of an unofficial Bootloader unlock method coming for many variants of the G4. It's important to note that in this case you must not take OTA updates or the unofficial unlock method won't work. Anyway, no need to get into detail much.
There's no need for a custom recovery since flash fire is enough to get xposed working.
Btw. Is that a Rick & Morty reference?
Cool, thanks for the info. So it seems even the G4 won't suffice for me ...guess I'll wait for the X5 and see what happens there. I doubt Telus will carry it so I'll have to buy it outright. Support for that is going to be active and functional?
Never watched Rick & Morty...which did you think I was referencing?
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Cool, thanks for the info. So it seems even the G4 won't suffice for me ...guess I'll wait for the X5 and see what happens there. I doubt Telus will carry it so I'll have to buy it outright. Support for that is going to be active and functional?
Never watched Rick & Morty...which did you think I was referencing?
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I guess you mean the 5X? In this case, yes, you can expect the great minds of XDA to develop for this device and since the 5X is relatively cheap and people tending towards mid-high-range devices, you can expect a big fellowship in the 5X development section and forum in general.
Nvm, I was referring to the "whoopdeedoo". Realized that "whoopdeedoo" is a very common saying. Just binge-finished Rick & Morty but somehow my brain is still processing the information.
EDIT: A Rick & Morty reference would be like, uh, like "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub", or "Get shwifty" or how much "Schmeckles" does the Moto X cost and so forth. Wait, what?
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Thanks for the input guy! I'm glad to hear that the G4 won't have much ROM support for some time--not that I'm glad for the *lack* of support, I'm just happy that I was informed of this *before* I made my purchase lol.
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Yes, it certainly pays to do your research before you dive in.
There are some things that vanilla doesn't seem to offer me. Some features are not needed (pie and other recent/quick access features, and others I can't even think of cos I never turn them on in my current ROM lol); however, the ability to alter the power menu, the ability to add custom hardware keys (mainly for flashlight; if not a hardware key, then at least a toggle in the tray, or in the power menu), status bar changes (clock, color, battery % in numbers, double-tap for screen off), led control, etc (perhaps all these can be altered with apps or via Xposed. @onetwelve You said above there could be problems with Xposed because there's no recovery. You mean TWRP recovery? You can't mean that, so I'm confused :s).
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am not too knowledgable on the xposed side of things. it was an interaction i had with someone on youtube and they said if you do not have access to kdz, then in case of a boot loop you would not be able to recover. since you're in canada and the carriers there are no better than us carriers, xposed might not be an option unless you REALLY know what you're doing. There's these TOT's instead so somebody more knowledgeable can answer.
The lack of camera support would suck. I am by no means a photographer; the main thing I use my camera for are taking random photos and also taking quick snapshots that require a fast-focus to be achieved. It's frustrating when camera apps don't work properly. I think pretty much every camera is going to be good enough for my purposes. 21MP vs 16MP = whoopdeedoo.
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yeah, vendors keep cameras very close to their chest. Only stock based roms will preserve camera or lets say are more certain to preserve it.
other stuff is going to be buggy or not work too well. this is down to developers so you end up using 3rd party cameras but its not the same as stock when it comes to cameras.
The cameras on the nexii are pretty good from what i've heard. But I would contend that the lack of OIS is an egregious omission when the last two nexii had it. Maddening! why go to the trouble to develop such a good camera and leave it out (!!!)
This means you will have to have a good handhold to avoid blur or camera shake indoors or in low light. But if the light is enough i think you will be happy with the nexus cameras. They really have come a long way since the Nexus 4. In good light i would not be surprised to see them rivaling the S6/G4 in terms of preservation of details. They are that good. But unfortunately thats it.
Btw the nexii are 12MP shooters. Don't let the mega pickles bother you just check out the photos at the pixel level and see for yourself.
SD card support is not a concern for me. I've lived with 16GB for years and it's almost never been a problem unless I record a bunch of videos before I get home. I don't put music on my device (only audiobooks). Getting a 32GB internal memory phone would be like landing in a pot of gold haha!
My buddy has been nagging me to get an iPhone 6 and jailbreak it--he says I'll never turn back...but I'm not sure, I love Android and don't really wanna learn a whole new interface.
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thought the whole point of getting an iphone is that there is no need to do jailbreaking. not nowadays anyway. why would you want to jailbreak ios9 ?
Now that 1+ has screwed over the 6T with an even bigger design. I've been thinking of going for the S9. I held an S8 in my hand last week and the size is just perfect.
But i'm wondering about root. If i'm understanding it correctly, one should buy the exynos version as there's no root for the sd version, right?
Are there downsides to rooting that havne't been fixed yet?
If you want to root then forget about the US Snapdragon version. If done correctly I don't think you would run into many problems with the Exynos phone. I would look through this forum and read the posts that may show any problems you may face. You have to do a bit of wading to get through some but there's some good info here and plenty of help available.
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If you want to root then forget about the US Snapdragon version. If done correctly I don't think you would run into many problems with the Exynos phone. I would look through this forum and read the posts that may show any problems you may face. You have to do a bit of wading to get through some but there's some good info here and plenty of help available.
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And does the s9 have a strong developer community?
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And does the s9 have a strong developer community?
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Have a look through the Exynos dev forums
So, S9 doesn't have any DRM features you lose when rooting?
Also, i don't know if the dev community is strong by looking at the dev forums.
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So, S9 doesn't have any DRM features you lose when rooting?
Also, i don't know if the dev community is strong by looking at the dev forums.
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I would advise against unless you get some kind of great deal. The phone is decent nothing overley better than anything else, and the US versions are lock down tight, other versions seem to be full of hassles.
I am very impressed with the s9!( Exynos version)
I am facing some issues when running multiple apps together I mean Spotify facebook Instagram messenger snapchat and browsing the same time with 3 tabs there is some lag which is for a few seconds only
i barely see my s9 freeze but it happened
(at least is faster than my old pixel xl- I am never gonna left Samsung for google ..the optimization on a battery is better on my s9 the camera the AMOLED screen and useful futures wich you gonna get on the next Android version on stock )
PS go for it, if you using the phone all day long with heavy tasks take the s9 plus with 6 GB ram is gonna be worth it!
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I would advise against unless you get some kind of great deal. The phone is decent nothing overley better than anything else, and the US versions are lock down tight, other versions seem to be full of hassles.
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It is very expensive, but i've found deals for around 555$, and that's for the exynos version. SD isn't available here.
Is there Samsung or 3rd party fix for fingerprint scanner for Note 10+? I'm not even using screen protector, and that thing is accurate 50% of the time at best. Half the time it just exceeds 5 attempts and forces me to use password/pin. By far and away, the worst fingerprint scanner I've seen on any fingerprint enabled phones I've owned.
Do you have all the latest software in Samsung Members app and on the phone done? Mine works 10x better then it did on the S10+
When the time you have trouble scanning your finger, log in ur phone with password, then immediately create another set of fingerprint with the same finger. Ur successful rate will increase
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Do you have all the latest software in Samsung Members app and on the phone done? Mine works 10x better then it did on the S10+
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I don't use, or even have installed Samsung Members app on my phone... What software specifically do you think I need to have up-to-date, in order for fingerprint scanner to work better?
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When the time you have trouble scanning your finger, log in ur phone with password, then immediately create another set of fingerprint with the same finger. Ur successful rate will increase
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Rather than trying workarounds, I'm asking about the actual Samsung official patch/fix, which rumored to have been released for this issue. Articles like this one make me believe it exists and it's only a matter of finding and installing/flashing it.
For starters, the fingerprint scanner works fine since device release, now, the so called ffix is intended to prevent a potential security issue, appearing in some devices when people used silicone screen protectors, and NOT becase the fp scanner was inaccurate or such, and finally, the patch is available when carriers decide to issue it, in my case, the patch became available about 3 or 4 days ago, and it brings along the Nov security patch and some camera improvements
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For starters, the fingerprint scanner works fine since device release, now, the so called ffix is intended to prevent a potential security issue, appearing in some devices when people used silicone screen protectors, and NOT becase the fp scanner was inaccurate or such, and finally, the patch is available when carriers decide to issue it, in my case, the patch became available about 3 or 4 days ago, and it brings along the Nov security patch and some camera improvements
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Don't really understand the point/purpose of your comment "the fingerprint scanner works fine since device release" - it clearly doesn't work anywhere near what could be described as "fine" for me, and it should be fairly obvious from my post. That's why this thread was opened in the first place. It may be working fine *for you*, on your specific model of Note 10+ and your specific firmware/kernel/patch level, but what's the point of bringing up what works on your phone? I'm not trying to resolve issues with *your* device in this thread...
You're also making a lot of assumptions in your post, which are incorrect in my case. I'm not using my carrier's device - I'm using device from another country, which has not only different firmware than the one my carrier's Note 10+ has, but also different hardware. My carrier's Note 10+ is Snapdragon version and I'm using Exynos Note 10+. On top of that, my device is rooted, so even if I were using my carrier's phone model and firmware - I would still not get carrier's software updates via OTA because of root. For all of the above reasons, software updates, released by my carrier for their own version of Note 10+ have no connection or relevancy to me.
You are also incorrect in your assertion/assumption what changes fingerprint related November update introduced - it's NOT only for screen protector related security issue fix. Below is relatively full changelog - see item next to last
What's new:
* November security patches (Samsung Android Security Updates)
* Integration of Samsung Cloud and Microsoft OneDrive (Sync Gallery with OneDrive)
* Provides a natural and frictionless mobile to desktop data continuity experience for your pictures through OneDrive integration.
* The performance of Bixby has been improved
* Improved fingerprint recognition algorithm
* The security of your device has been improved
Here is a link to official Samsung changelog, which proves you wrong about the nature of fingerprint update:
https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-N975F/AUT/doc.html
The thing is, your device may be malfunctioning or something, because mine works fine since Sept 11, when I bought it, if you use an unbranded device, you just have to wait until the patch is released for your device, that's it, plain and simple, I just was saying that, regarding the fingerprint issue, samsung is seeding a patch that not only adesses the fp scanner, but also some more things, along with the Nov security patch, there is no point in trying to "prove me wrong" as I was by no means trying to convince you of ANYTHING, you will have to wait for the patch, you talked about "rumors", no, there are no rumors, the patch has been issued, unlocked, unbranded devices get updates sometimes later than carrier distributed ones, so, cool off, do not get overly defensive and agressive, you asked about the patch, you got some answers
Simple,
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The thing is, your device may be malfunctioning or something, because mine works fine since Sept 11, when I bought it, if you use an unbranded device, you just have to wait until the patch is released for your device, that's it, plain and simple, I just was saying that, regarding the fingerprint issue, samsung is seeding a patch that not only adesses the fp scanner, but also some more things, along with the Nov security patch, there is no point in trying to "prove me wrong" as I was by no means trying to convince you of ANYTHING, you will have to wait for the patch, you talked about "rumors", no, there are no rumors, the patch has been issued, unlocked, unbranded devices get updates sometimes later than carrier distributed ones, so, cool off, do not get overly defensive and agressive, you asked about the patch, you got some answers
Simple,
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Here is a quote from your post: ".. the so called ffix is intended to prevent a potential security issue, appearing in some devices when people used silicone screen protectors, and NOT because the fp scanner was inaccurate or such"- the obnoxious capitalization of "not" and this entire quote is definitely you, arguing and trying to disproof what I said about fingerprint scanner fix being available. I personally consider lack of willingness to admit ones own, obvious mistakes to be one of the most repulsive qualities in a human being, and you seem to have that quality... I strongly disagree with your statement that "there is no point" in proving you wrong: First, that's not what is happening here - you were the one, who disputed my comments first and started an argument with the above quote. The overall tone of your post was not helpful, fairly hostile and condescending. Second, you were wrong as Samsung's official firmware changelog shows. So, what's happening here is not me, trying to prove you wrong, but me, defending my original comments, which contain correct information, against your false, and misleading dispute of them about the nature of fingerprint scanner fix. I corrected you rather calmly, so it seems to me you're the one, getting riled up over your own mistakes and you should be the one to cool off.
You are also incorrect in pretty much everything you said about devices, which you called "unbranded", including your assumption that carrier branded firmware gets released first. That is a horrible mistake to make, and it shows you don't have any understanding of software/firmware development process, and how Samsung <-> carrier relationships work. I don't have to wait for anything because Samsung original firmware updates get released waaaay before carriers release their own branded version with their built-in bloatware. Places like this have firmware for my phone, available for download waaaaaay before you get your carrier's OTA updates.
Now it is clear, you are just trolling here
Thread closed.
No place here for pointless and acerbic arguments.
Hey guys, I recently purchased a S20 Ultra and am finding it a great phone. However, I've come to realize they've removed the encryption on boot-up feature which I was really looking to use for privacy reasons. I went and asked on the live chat on the Samsung website, and they said it was removed and I would have to "use a third party app or rom" to be able to get back this feature.
I'm now looking into installing a custom ROM and haven't done for many years so I need a bit of help with this, is it just me being stupid, or is there no custom ROM's really released for the S20 Ultra yet? As I've not been able to find one whilst searching.
Also I was curious to if anyone knew a easier way or setting that I could activate that I might have not noticed to be able to activate boot up/start up encryption for the S20?
Thanks in advance
Cazzia
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Hey guys, I recently purchased a S20 Ultra and am finding it a great phone. However, I've come to realize they've removed the encryption on boot-up feature which I was really looking to use for privacy reasons. I went and asked on the live chat on the Samsung website, and they said it was removed and I would have to "use a third party app or rom" to be able to get back this feature.
I'm now looking into installing a custom ROM and haven't done for many years so I need a bit of help with this, is it just me being stupid, or is there no custom ROM's really released for the S20 Ultra yet? As I've not been able to find one whilst searching.
Also I was curious to if anyone knew a easier way or setting that I could activate that I might have not noticed to be able to activate boot up/start up encryption for the S20?
Thanks in advance
Cazzia
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Hello mate,
No custom ROMs yet I'm afraid. I dont know whether this is a mixture of the crap Exynos variant, price or both. With the OnePlus 8 Pro just launched - i wouldnt hold out for much development for the S20 Ultra.
I believe the S20 line of devices have FBE (File Based Encryption). As such secure boot and the encryption option within settings has been removed.
Their was a guy in here claiming to have created a GSI (Generic System Image) that can be installed on any Google Project Treble device - S20 Ultra included. But His method of getting it installed made no sense whatsoever and he couldn't provide proof that it works and/or boots.
Sorry to "piss on your bonfire" (so to speak) but with the price being too high and the Exynos 990 being so bad - i cant see much development happening for this device. I may be wrong though....time will tell.
Best,
Speedy!!
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Hello mate,
No custom ROMs yet I'm afraid. I dont know whether this is a mixture of the crap Exynos variant, price or both. With the OnePlus 8 Pro just launched - i wouldnt hold out for much development for the S20 Ultra.
I believe the S20 line of devices have FBE (File Based Encryption). As such secure boot and the encryption option within settings has been removed.
Their was a guy in here claiming to have created a GSI (Generic System Image) that can be installed on any Google Project Treble device - S20 Ultra included. But His method of getting it installed made no sense whatsoever and he couldn't provide proof that it works and/or boots.
Sorry to "piss on your bonfire" (so to speak) but with the price being too high and the Exynos 990 being so bad - i cant see much development happening for this device. I may be wrong though....time will tell.
Best,
Speedy!!
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Hey Speedy, thanks for your prompt reply!
Yeah I received the Exynos version from Three UK signing up for a contract, I haven't noticed a massive speed problem but then again I am coming from a Hawei P20 Pro lol. I was told however I was going to receive a snapdragon version from Three, so would you say it's worth putting up a fight to try get the other version?
And thanks for informing me of the current situation regarding custom roms and FBE, I'll have to take a look into that and see to just what extent that covers/what is protects and what (on startup or just generally at the lock screen). Or possibly see if there's any third party apps that are able to lock/encrypt app/app data untill a passcode is entered when opening the app (which would obvousily disable background usage for security reasons I guess, if such a app even exists.)
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Hey Speedy, thanks for your prompt reply!
Yeah I received the Exynos version from Three UK signing up for a contract, I haven't noticed a massive speed problem but then again I am coming from a Hawei P20 Pro lol. I was told however I was going to receive a snapdragon version from Three, so would you say it's worth putting up a fight to try get the other version?
And thanks for informing me of the current situation regarding custom roms and FBE, I'll have to take a look into that and see to just what extent that covers/what is protects and what (on startup or just generally at the lock screen). Or possibly see if there's any third party apps that are able to lock/encrypt app/app data untill a passcode is entered when opening the app (which would obvousily disable background usage for security reasons I guess, if such a app even exists.)
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A snapdragon variant from Three UK? Is that even possible? Because the snapdragon variant is only sold the USA due a business deal between Qualcomm and Samsung in the early 90s - theirs a massive amount of hoohaa regarding this but long story short - Qualcomm said to Samsung "Yeah, you can use our products in your devices. As long as your sales dont directly compete with ours in our biggest markets" (Europe, Asia etc).
Mate, dont get me wrong - the S20 Ultra is a fantastic phone with solid specs. You'll be well off until your upgrade is due.
FBE is in place from the time your screen is off until you enter your pin/password/biometrics etc. Of course, that leaves the question of - Is FBE in place if no device security is in place? And to that i say I'm not sure my friend.
Is their any particular reason why you need encryption?
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A snapdragon variant from Three UK? Is that even possible? Because the snapdragon variant is only sold the USA due a business deal between Qualcomm and Samsung in the early 90s - theirs a massive amount of hoohaa regarding this but long story short - Qualcomm said to Samsung "Yeah, you can use our products in your devices. As long as your sales dont directly compete with ours in our biggest markets" (Europe, Asia etc).
Mate, dont get me wrong - the S20 Ultra is a fantastic phone with solid specs. You'll be well off until your upgrade is due.
FBE is in place from the time your screen is off until you enter your pin/password/biometrics etc. Of course, that leaves the question of - Is FBE in place if no device security is in place? And to that i say I'm not sure my friend.
Is their any particular reason why you need encryption?
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"A snapdragon variant from Three UK? Is that even possible?" Ahhh, this was something I was competently unaware of and just put my faith in they're live chat when they told me I was getting that variant, but I guess I got duped :cyclops:
I guess in terms on encryption, it's just the paranoid view of if I ever lost my phone the possibility of easily getting into my device to view private information and the new/easy software coming out these days to easily extract information from android phones etc. I know with the Pixel you can do boot up security and the older samsungs, just didn't know you couldn't on this one and didn't assume they'd remove such a feature as this is actually my first samsung
They have just told me I'm entitled to a 30 day no questions asked return, so I'm just considering this up to the other devices on they're site as I want to stay with Three because of they're awesome 5G network compared to a lot of others. I guess what I'm just thinking is should I keep a £78 a month phone contract for two years, when I was sold it as to come with a snapdragon processor (which is my own dumb ass fault for not checking I guess haha) The only other one I can see I would maybe swap to is a "Galaxy S10 Plus with Galaxy Watch" which they're doing for £56 a month, making it over £400 saving over 2 years, but there are a lot less features I guess on the S10 Plus than the S20 ultra, would be a bit of a downgrade I guess.
Cazzia said:
"A snapdragon variant from Three UK? Is that even possible?" Ahhh, this was something I was competently unaware of and just put my faith in they're live chat when they told me I was getting that variant, but I guess I got duped :cyclops:
I guess in terms on encryption, it's just the paranoid view of if I ever lost my phone the possibility of easily getting into my device to view private information and the new/easy software coming out these days to easily extract information from android phones etc. I know with the Pixel you can do boot up security and the older samsungs, just didn't know you couldn't on this one and didn't assume they'd remove such a feature as this is actually my first samsung
They have just told me I'm entitled to a 30 day no questions asked return, so I'm just considering this up to the other devices on they're site as I want to stay with Three because of they're awesome 5G network compared to a lot of others. I guess what I'm just thinking is should I keep a £78 a month phone contract for two years, when I was sold it as to come with a snapdragon processor (which is my own dumb ass fault for not checking I guess haha) The only other one I can see I would maybe swap to is a "Galaxy S10 Plus with Galaxy Watch" which they're doing for £56 a month, making it over £400 saving over 2 years, but there are a lot less features I guess on the S10 Plus than the S20 ultra, would be a bit of a downgrade I guess.
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I'm pretty sure a Snapdragon variant from a major UK retailer like Three, Vodafone etc is impossible buddy. I'm sorry.
In terms of extra security - their may be an option available to you. Its called Cerberus. It doesnt require root BUT offers more features if you have it.
Root is available for the S20 Ultra. Go here and take a look mate.
https://www.cerberusapp.com/
Had anyone figured a way to do this? i searched throughout all the internet about this.. and yet to find a solution.
I don't live in a country that Google sells the GP6P and(from my understanding) they'll lock it, NR availability will be set to False. Now i'm on a rooted GP6P and tried some modules(old mostly), none of them worked -- my ISP definitely supports 5G -- , if there is a module to enable it please upload it.
And whilst at that.. a way to get call screening enabled aswell...
No one figured out yet or simply don't want to.. For now we only have VoLTE by changing some build.prop parameters with Magisk module.
I was wondering... @Freak07 you seem to be a cool dude who eagerly supports the Pixel 6, maybe you would have any idea about it?
My carrier (Orange Poland) uses same 5G band and frequency as officially supported one (Magenta Austria) and I can't use 5G anyway..
On Pixel 5 it was simple because of QPST tool, with Tensor we are doomed
Another idea is to simply create a bounty, money would quickly improve the success
+1 for the bounty.
I am done waiting for my carrier to play nice with Google. My problem is that I also totally dislike Samsung, Oneplus etc.
We need to get this organised asap, I am sure there are plenty developers here on XDA willing to take that bounty.
Maybe we can use a platform like bountysource.com ?
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Maybe we can use a platform like bountysource.com ?
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GoFundMe would be better, because you can't collect $ from people on the site you mentioned. Actually as someone who is on XDA since 2010 and already organized one bounty...maybe I'd be someone trustworthy enough to organise it
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GoFundMe would be better, because you can't collect $ from people on the site you mentioned. Actually as someone who is on XDA since 2010 and already organized one bounty...maybe I'd be someone trustworthy enough to organise it
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Oh yeah, I totally forgot about gofundme, sorry!
Feel free to organize this, hopefully we can get enough people onboard to make for a tempting bounty.
I'm in too. (Vodafone Czech Republic)
I will try to work on it this weekend
Gonna use GiveButter since GoFundMe isn't supported in Poland.. GiveButter works worldwide in theory
I can provide any data from P6 latest Android 13DP2 (DP3 should be soon)
Oh I am in for middle east UAE Pixel fans
The Pixel 6 (non pro) community made a module for that purpose, I don't know if that one works for the P6 Pro, I'd advise not to use it, but you could ask the creator of the mod (github page is linked in that thread) if he is able to help you guys.
Activating 5G in unsupported countries?
I know this might require root, which I am more than willing to do. But is there a process or a magisk module that can activate 5G on unsupported countries? (btw im from PH)
forum.xda-developers.com
I remember that there was a relatively easy fix for the p4(a) and p5 to activate 5G in unsupported countries, even though I'm not sure if that still applies to the P6 Pro. Root required for both methods.
You could try these steps out (make backups!!!), but be warned that it might brick certain things.
https://www.getdroidtips.com/enable-5g-unlisted-countries-pixel-4a5g-pixel-5/
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The Pixel 6 (non pro) community made a module for that purpose, I don't know if that one works for the P6 Pro, I'd advise not to use it, but you could ask the creator of the mod (github page is linked in that thread) if he is able to help you guys.
Activating 5G in unsupported countries?
I know this might require root, which I am more than willing to do. But is there a process or a magisk module that can activate 5G on unsupported countries? (btw im from PH)
forum.xda-developers.com
I remember that there was a relatively easy fix for the p4(a) and p5 to activate 5G in unsupported countries, even though I'm not sure if that still applies to the P6 Pro. Root required for both methods.
You could try these steps out (make backups!!!), but be warned that it might brick certain things.
https://www.getdroidtips.com/enable-5g-unlisted-countries-pixel-4a5g-pixel-5/
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The pixel 6 lineup isn't on a Qualcomm chipset, Google has made their own chip called Tensor. Now the difference is that in Qualcomm's way they give you developer tools such as the Qualcomm Product Support Tools (QPST) which makes the Chip unlock its 5G capability, easy. Now in Googles Tensor's case we don't have access to these type of tools, and the Chip itself can lock the 5G modem.
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The pixel 6 lineup isn't on a Qualcomm chipset, Google has made their own chip called Tensor. Now the difference is that in Qualcomm's way they give you developer tools such as the Qualcomm Product Support Tools (QPST) which makes the Chip unlock its 5G capability, easy. Now in Googles Tensor's case we don't have access to these type of tools, and the Chip itself can lock the 5G modem.
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That eliminates the second method with the file editing, but the first method was successful for the Pixel 6 non Pro, so that should be a possibility for you guys here, even though that Magisk mod might have to be adjusted slightly.
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That eliminates the second method with the file editing, but the first method was successful for the Pixel 6 non Pro, so that should be a possibility for you guys here, even though that Magisk mod might have to be adjusted slightly.
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If so I'll give it a ago in a little bit..
- I have the Pro version.
Do not flash that file. It's for Qualcomm chips and you're basically flashing Qualcomm directories onto your phone.
I don't know how anyone can say it was successful.
5G and other 5G features are controlled by the carrier settings. And that's not easy to manipulate.
Don't ever approach this phone with a "well this module works for 4/4a/5/5a" mentality.
+1 don't do it, Tensor is Exynos based, QPST only worked on previous Pixels
Getting lucky with the relatively simple flags to enable VoLTE by flashing tons of other crap onto your phone is not a validation.
Okay I won't do it. And yeah that's what I thought.
Just that the fact that it worked on the non pro model caught my attention.
I've given up on 5G now even though my network supports it Google have said they wont certify the device, certainly won't be getting another Google phone after this
I'm still confused as to why people imported this device when carrier support was clear from day one.
I don't think it's right that an OEM controls that, but that's the reality we're dealing with.
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I'm still confused as to why people imported this device when carrier support was clear from day one.
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I think I know why, I will give my best shot:
Many prefer using Pixel phones as they offer the closest experience to iPhone (regularly OS updates for years to come, clean OS without unnecessary bloatware and clutter etc.) and they are willing to accept the current state of not having full connectivity support with a hope that things might change in the (near) future.
It's not like the first time a phone manufacturer aknowledges customer feedback. Call me overly optimistic but I think they will eventually cave in, at least for unlocking VoLTE and VoWiFi. Because more and more countries are shutting down the 3G cell towers.
As for unlocking 5G support - from my understanding that would be more complicated as that's subject to each country's policy and legislation.