How do I save my Redmi Note 8/4GB from app discards? - Redmi Note 8 Questions & Answers

I am a power user and I mostly switch a lot between apps, so I don't like discarding.
I use a custom ROM which is less heavy than MIUI ROM yet Still my background apps take a lot of memory that multitasking without discarding is not possible even with 4GB + 2GB zRAM I have.
Do you know any workaround for this without buying a new phone nor sacrificing apps, knowing that when I run cpuinfo in terminal: It doesn't show swp in features, so I don't think the swap will work out of the box with me and using a swap partition in my SD card will make the phone slow also except if there is a way to partition the internal storage or /data.

tberma said:
I am a power user and I mostly switch a lot between apps, so I don't like discarding.
I use a custom ROM which is less heavy than MIUI ROM yet Still my background apps take a lot of memory that multitasking without discarding is not possible even with 4GB + 2GB zRAM I have.
Do you know any workaround for this without buying a new phone nor sacrificing apps, knowing that when I run cpuinfo in terminal: It doesn't show swp in features, so I don't think the swap will work out of the box with me and using a swap partition in my SD card will make the phone slow also except if there is a way to partition the internal storage or /data.
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go to system build.prop and look for
ro.lmk.kill_heaviest_task=true
set it to false
(just an idea,not sure)
let me know if it worx

loopypalm said:
go to system build.prop and look for ro.lmk.kill_heaviest_task=true set it to false (just an idea,not sure) let me know if it worx
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loopypalm said:
go to system build.prop and look for
ro.lmk.kill_heaviest_task=true
set it to false
(just an idea,not sure)
let me know if it worx
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No I don't have the option anyway in build prop.

tberma said:
No I don't have the option anyway in build prop.
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if you don't have it make it
ro.lmk.kill_heaviest_task=false

loopypalm said:
if you don't have it make it
ro.lmk.kill_heaviest_task=false
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is this working for Android 11 too?

tberma said:
is this working for Android 11 too?
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should work

tberma said:
is this working for Android 11 too?
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copy build.prop somewhere you remember
edit it
reboot
if something goes wrong restore it
tberma​

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[Q] Manually transfer certain app to the sd-ext (ext3/4) ?

Just wondering is there any way to manually transfer certain app to the sd-ext (ext3/4).
Any hidden setting or tweak in S2E ?
I am using S2E but it moves all your applications to sd-ext and don’t let you choose the applications that you want to move.
I only want to move games,unimportant,less frequent used or non background applications to sd-ext.I think launchers and some other apps just run better or need to be in the internal memory for max performace and to minimize battery drain.
Is there any way to get around ?
if it is moving all your apps and you want to move certain apps back then you could use an app called system cleanup. its a really useful app,once its loaded its as simple as long pressing the desired app and choosing your option. titanium backup also does the same and has a batch mode. not sure if this is what your looking for or not?
edit: miss read your post,so i dont think this will move to sdext? but may come in useful
R.V.3 (MokeeOs)
slymobi said:
if it is moving all your apps and you want to move certain apps back then you could use an app called system cleanup. its a really useful app,once its loaded its as simple as long pressing the desired app and choosing your option. titanium backup also does the same and has a batch mode. not sure if this is what your looking for or not?
edit: miss read your post,so i dont think this will move to sdext? but may come in useful R.V.3 (MokeeOs)
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As far as i understand "system cleanup" will move certain apps to "/system".That is not what we did MTD partiton for.
The problem is when you install an app,S2E moves it to sd-ext(ext3/4) and don’t let you choose the applications that you want to move.I want to manually transfer the app either to"/sd-ext" or "/sdcard" or just keep it in internal memory(/system).
e.g. App A in system
App B in /sd-ext
App C in /sdcard
optimusodd said:
As far as i understand "system cleanup" will move certain apps to "/system".That is not what we did MTD partiton for.
The problem is when you install an app,S2E moves it to sd-ext(ext3/4) and don’t let you choose the applications that you want to move.I want to manually transfer the app either to"/sd-ext" or "/sdcard" or just keep it in internal memory(/system).
e.g. App A in system
App B in /sd-ext
App C in /sdcard
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Not sure if you confuse something? Apps on sd?
And yes, you're right: s2e doesn't let you pick individual apps - but... I believe that's a good idea thinking about performance (just my opinion, though).
Any time I have the feeling an app should be in internal I'd push it to system (usually i won't run out of space there as i strip a lot of bloat out). This makes even more sense to me than using two data partitions (what you would have when selectively moving apps to sd or vice versa).
All my user apps and dalvik-cache are on sdext (so there's no need for the OS to search and less possibility to struggle). I use custom mtd partitions, too, but the internal data partition isn't useless as there's still a lot of app data...
But like i said: just my opinion ymmv.
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)
eventcom said:
Not sure if you confuse something? Apps on sd?
And yes, you're right: s2e doesn't let you pick individual apps - but... I believe that's a good idea thinking about performance (just my opinion, though).
This makes even more sense to me than using two data partitions (what you would have when selectively moving apps to sd or vice versa)All my user apps and dalvik-cache are on sdext (so there's no need for the OS to search and less possibility to struggle).
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Nope,I am not confused.I want to manually move selected apps to
>Internal data partition
>SD-ext(ext3/4)
>SD Card(like APP2SD let you choose the apps you want to transfer to external storage)
In short,moving only select apps to the ext-3/4 partition.
The more system related stuff you move to the SD ext, the more information it needs to pull out from the SD Card.
As i said some critical apps need to be in the internal memory for stability and performance reasons while it's better to keep some heavy apps like Offline maps or Dictionaries to external memory (FAT32 partiton).
Any time I have the feeling an app should be in internal I'd push it to system (usually i won't run out of space there as i strip a lot of bloat out).
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I don't want to push apps to system as it's size is 140 MB and out of that 23 MB is free i.e you can't push more than 2-3 apps.And if you really want,you will have to change your MTD partiton again and again.
I use custom mtd partitions, too, but the internal data partition isn't useless as there's still a lot of app data.
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As S2E moves all your apps to sd-ext and don't let you choose whether you want to move or just keep in internal data partition.Whta's the use of internal memory and SD-Card meory.My internal data partition is 310 MB.I don't think the app data can fill even half of it.Moreover 512 MB of SD-ext will get filled very soon.Well,I don't care about running about of space as I can increase the size of ext partiton,I just want it to let me choose the apps that I want to move.
Any idea ?
Thanks
optimusodd said:
Nope,I am not confused.I want to manually move selected apps to
>Internal data partition
>SD-ext(ext3/4)
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I got that well but this one
optimusodd said:
>SD Card
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is not a good idea in my eyes (and from my experience).
FAT32 might be good to store some data (nothing db related or where apps are writing onto very often)
optimusodd said:
The more system related stuff you move to the SD ext, the more information it needs to pull out from the SD Card
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and that's where I think you are at least a bit wrong... an external partition (ext2,3 or 4) is treated just the same way like /data and /system. Of course it might be a bit slower than partitions on the internal drive (and have some faults or instabilities) but it's still a system partition while the FAT32 part of the SD card uses a different format (which will definitely affect performance).
I don't want to push apps to system as it's size is 140 MB and out of that 23 MB is free i.e you can't push more than 2-3 apps.And if you really want,you will have to change your MTD partiton again and again.
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nah, I don't think so - you just do it once and keep in mind that you want to push a few apps there (me for instance deletes a lot of stuff from the ROM, too... if I'm not mistaken that's more than I push back there)
As S2E moves all your apps to sd-ext and don't let you choose whether you want to move or just keep in internal data partition.Whta's the use of internal memory and SD-Card meory.My internal data partition is 310 MB.I don't think the app data can fill even half of it.
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My current stats (total/used in MB):
015/001 cache
300/249 data (= 83%)
960/368 ext
150/113 system
But I must confess that I didn't care to clean up my system recently...
Is link2sd something for u? It transfers individuale apps to and from the sd-ext partition.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire
Hazou said:
Is link2sd something for u? It transfers individuale apps to and from the sd-ext partition.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire
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I use the same link2sd and it works perfectly: it's easy to decide what applications to move to sd-ext or to keep into the internal memory.
stiven68 said:
I use the same link2sd and it works perfectly: it's easy to decide what applications to move to sd-ext or to keep into the internal memory.
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Is link2sd something for u? It transfers individuale apps to and from the sd-ext partition.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire
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Yep,link2sd can do the job but it could be better if S2E provides the same feature and let us choose the apps that we want to move.
Well,after a long forum research i have reached a conclusion that link2sd is way better than S2E.
eventcom said:
I got that well but this oneis not a good idea in my eyes (and from my experience).FAT32 might be good to store some data (nothing db related or where apps are writing onto very often)
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Yep,i did mean dictionary and maps.
And here comes link2sd to your rescue :
It also provides native apps2sd features on Android 2.2 and higher. It can move any non-protected user apps to SD card (force move), with batch moving capability.
me for instance deletes a lot of stuff from the ROM, too... if I'm not mistaken that's more than I push back there
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Did you use TB to remove bloatwares and other unnecessary stuff ?
optimusodd said:
Yep,i did mean dictionary and maps.
And here comes link2sd to your rescue :
It also provides native apps2sd features on Android 2.2 and higher. It can move any non-protected user apps to SD card (force move), with batch moving capability.
Did you use TB to remove bloatwares and other unnecessary stuff ?
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nah, most of the time manual edit. Best practice would be to do the testing by removing the apps one by one and if you're done delete them from the ROM zip and use this as your barebone (and remember which apps are safe to remove).
Btw there are a few good hints of Slymobi and me in the LeWa thread (regarding CM7) which could be seen as an update for the barebones entry in the cyanogenmod wiki.
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)
optimusodd said:
Yep,link2sd can do the job but it could be better if S2E provides the same feature and let us choose the apps that we want to move.
Well,after a long forum research i have reached a conclusion that link2sd is way better than S2E.
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I dont think link2sd is way better. The just do 2 different things.
Link2sd lets u manually push or pull apps to ext. So after each new app install u need to push the app again. It is only useful when u only want a couple of ur apps to ext. It works nice if u dont want to have every app on ext.
S2E will transfer all apps, data and / or dalvik to ext. So u always have enough internal memory. This works especially well when u transfer the apps to ext, but the data not.
They are both very goods apps. U cant compare them to each other, i think. It is just what u want at that moment
eventcom said:
nah, most of the time manual edit. Best practice would be to do the testing by removing the apps one by one and if you're done delete them from the ROM zip and use this as your barebone (and remember which apps are safe to remove).
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I have never tried barebone install lol.Have you tried one ?I use TB to remove them.Using terminal emulator is another option.
there are a few good hints of Slymobi and me in the LeWa thread (regarding CM7) which could be seen as an update for the barebones entry in the cyanogenmod wiki.Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)
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Can you share the link of your post ?
Hazou said:
Link2sd lets u manually push or pull apps to ext. So after each new app install u need to push the app again. It is only useful when u only want a couple of ur apps to ext. It works nice if u dont want to have every app on ext.
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It's possible to set link2sd to automatically move every new app to sd-ext just after the installation and then manually move back to the internal memory if necessary.
stiven68 said:
It's possible to set link2sd to automatically move every new app to sd-ext just after the installation and then manually move back to the internal memory if necessary.
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Yep i know ,
But then i dont see the point of using it, because s2e is already build into CM sort of (just need to download the interface). And with link2sd u get a massive script thats needs to be loaded. Not that it will slow down the device very much.
And with my device, link2sd sometimes wont load all the apps. But that is my experience.
Hazou
Hazou said:
Yep i know ,But then i dont see the point of using it, because s2e is already build into CM sort of (just need to download the interface). And with link2sd u get a massive script thats needs to be loaded. Not that it will slow down the device very much.
And with my device, link2sd sometimes wont load all the apps. But that is my experience.
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Here is why link2sd is better and we want to use it :
>It let us choose the apps we want to move.
>I don't want to move launchers and some other apps due to stability reasons.
>S2E moves and regenrates too much of a cache.
>S2E works only for CM roms
>link2sd provides better control
>some users have reported the issue that after sometime the apps starts to disappear in S2E.
>S2E doesn't work with Titanium Backup properly.
>S2E creates problems during Nandroid backup.I approve that.
>S2E only supports ext3/ext4
>In worst case scenario (card crash) you are gonna bang your head on the wall as it moves everything to sd ext partition.
>In S2E you can't use any application while your card is mounted as a removable disk on your PC.
Other features of link2sd :
Features:
- Create and remove link for apk, dex and lib files of the applications you select
- Automatically link newly installed apps
- Move any user apps to SD even though the app does not support moving to SD (for Android 2.2 and higher)
- Shows the apps that support moving to SD with native apps2sd (for Android 2.2 and higher)
- Set the default install location of the apps; auto, internal, or external (for Android 2.2 and higher)
- Batch link, unlink, reinstall, uninstall, "move to SD", "move to phone" functions (multi-select mode)
- Uninstall system applications
- Freeze and un-freeze system and users applications
- Convert system apps into user apps
- Convert user apps into system apps
- Integrate "Updated" system apps into system (ROM)
- Clear data and cache of the application
- Clear all apps cache at once (1-tap cache cleaner without being root)
- List applications, show detailed size information and link status
- Sort and filter applications
- Search applications by name
- Display available space information of internal storage, SD card and SD card 2nd partition
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Guess enough reasons to go with link2sd:silly:
optimusodd said:
Here is why link2sd is better and we want to use it :
>It let us choose the apps we want to move.
>I don't want to move launchers and some other apps due to stability reasons.
>S2E moves and regenrates too much of a cache.
>S2E works only for CM roms
>link2sd provides better control
>some users have reported the issue that after sometime the apps starts to disappear in S2E.
>S2E doesn't work with Titanium Backup properly.
>S2E creates problems during Nandroid backup.I approve that.
>S2E only supports ext3/ext4
>In worst case scenario (card crash) you are gonna bang your head on the wall as it moves everything to sd ext partition.
>In S2E you can't use any application while your card is mounted as a removable disk on your PC
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nothing wrong using link2sd - everybody has a different setup and different priorities. So just to tell you a different point of view: In my opinion moving apps from the stable and fast internal storage to an external partition is not a good solution at all - but if you aren't satisfied with installing just a hand full of user apps this is the only way to go. In opposite to your opinion i believe (and have the experience) that spreading the user apps onto two partitions (plus the system apps on the system partition) definitely is not more stable than just moving all apps in one place. To me this makes sense as the system needs more information about the app (where to find). It's like having two /data/app directories... I'm pretty much satisfied with my setup (s2e) and didn't have any major issues for one and a half year. I can't confirm any issues regarding cache or "lost apps". The only thing i experienced twice was the system forgot about the ext partition (which could happen with every other solution, too, afaik and hasn't been much trouble to solve).
Furthermore i really believe that the best place for the important stuff, like launcher and file manager, is in /system/app ...
But again: nothing wrong with different prefs...
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)

Nexus 7 flo users please help me asap

hello i decided to update my nexus 7 flo to the latest stock marshmallow this morning but im in dilemma now.. as i have only 235kb memory left in my system rom. please help how to free it .. i only have atleast 10 apps installed now and i really wonder why it takes that much of memory... by the way.. my n7 flo is rooted already. please see my ss below
It's rooted, so no OTA is possible. You can only do this - and they wrote:
"Caution: Flashing a new system image deletes all user data. Be certain to first backup any personal data such as photos"​
Then, what's the dilemma when you have no choice?
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It's rooted, so no OTA is possible. You can only do this - and they wrote:
"Caution: Flashing a new system image deletes all user data. Be certain to first backup any personal data such as photos"​
Then, what's the dilemma when you have no choice?
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with all due respect sir, i just want to ask if theres a way to free it up my system memory, im experiencing now some lagginess of my tablet which i think its because of that low system memory, so is there any way to delete some system app like map, keep, hangouts etc because i really dont need them.
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with all due respect sir, i just want to ask if theres a way to free it up my system memory, im experiencing now some lagginess of my tablet which i think its because of that low system memory, so is there any way to delete some system app like map, keep, hangouts etc because i really dont need them.
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I`m guessing that Your Titanium backups has taken a lot of your storage.... You could go in and delete the backups You dont need?.... Also you could use Titanium to uninstall system apps...... and cleaning up the temp cache of used apps could free up some more....
I have the 16gb version and it is not alot of storage to use on it, the micro sd slot is one thing I really miss from Nexus ..... but I mostly use a usb stick for movies etc :good: ....
You could also use the cleaner script found here to free about 224mb of storage : http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7-2013/development/rom-bad-boyz-nexus-7-stock-rooted-t3219148
The stock firmware fills nearly all of system and that's ok. It's not slowing you down.
If you need more space in the system partition for some reason delete system apps with TB like mentioned above.
waagbull said:
I`m guessing that Your Titanium backups has taken a lot of your storage.... You could go in and delete the backups You dont need?.... Also you could use Titanium to uninstall system apps...... and cleaning up the temp cache of used apps could free up some more....
I have the 16gb version and it is not alot of storage to use on it, the micro sd slot is one thing I really miss from Nexus ..... but I mostly use a usb stick for movies etc :good: ....
You could also use the cleaner script found here to free about 224mb of storage : http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7-2013/development/rom-bad-boyz-nexus-7-stock-rooted-t3219148
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yosmokinman said:
The stock firmware fills nearly all of system and that's ok. It's not slowing you down.
If you need more space in the system partition for some reason delete system apps with TB like mentioned above.
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Ya I tried that system cleaner but it didn't work for me, I got bootloop instead.

Will somebody use something like this?

Hi.
For now I have more ideas than time…
But thinking what I can make when will finish my current work
And want to know if someone want me to port my Good Old Work?
Good Old Work
Other thing, it will work on any k10 model…
I think that better will be if you increase zRAM than enabling swap partition/file because most people would use sd cards for that (and they are even slower than internal storage) specially if they have 8gb device.
Professor Woland said:
I think that better will be if you increase zRAM than enabling swap partition/file because most people would use sd cards for that (and they are even slower than internal storage) specially if they have 8gb device.
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Possibly you wright.
But ZRAM is ZIP compressed inactive RAM Memory blocks, so depending from ZIP Compression Level and ZRAM Partition Size, LINUX SWAP Partition or SWAP File normally bigger, it will be better one option or other…
And there always exist DATA SWAP File option…
Yes you can place swap file on /data, but I think most people would use /data for it's real purpose (apps). However if it doesn't take you much time than make it if someone want to use it - they will use it. In my case (1.5 GB RAM) I don't have any problems with RAM, I don't close (remove from recents) any app, and only time there is apps which is pushed out from RAM is when I use too much tabs in chrome or play heavy games which requires big chunk of RAM to run.
It will take time…
I recently formated my PC and forgot to backup some of development materials...
So now all my old projects from other devices Are Lost
I can use Shell Script from old Aroma, but I must make Application from 0
And I made old app Not in One Day, so it will take time to make app of the same level, logs , stability and performance.
I even not talking about all Virtual Ram Memory Parameters, it takes many time to find the best configuration and test all stuffs...
Why don't you make flashable .zip with init.d script to make/enable swap on boot? Just, I don't know if swap is suported on K10 kernel maybe you'll need to add support, and to tweak swap kernel toolkit/adiutor can be used, no need for making app for swap.
The same
Professor Woland said:
Why don't you make flashable .zip with init.d script to make/enable swap on boot? Just, I don't know if swap is suported on K10 kernel maybe you'll need to add support, and to tweak swap kernel toolkit/adiutor can be used, no need for making app for swap.
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K10 have all required things to make it
But qualcomm devices still don't have any recovery
My idea was finish Universal Smart Installer function of K10 Flasher, then I will release this stuff 100%
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K10 have all required things to make it
But qualcomm devices still don't have any recovery
My idea was finish Universal Smart Installer function of K10 Flasher, then I will release this stuff 100%
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I tought there was some ported recovery for qualcomm
Edit:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-k10/development/recovery-twrp-3-0-2-t3479837
No.
Professor Woland said:
I tought there was some ported recovery for qualcomm
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-k10/development/recovery-twrp-3-0-2-t3479837
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No, I was not able to port it, so now pvineeth97 is building it…

Android 9 upgrade very worthwhile!

I bumped up to 9 (47.2.A.2.33) and sacrificed wifi calling and volte (waiting for US firmware to catch up) but it's still totally worth it.
+ SD card is visible to apps!!! Meaning, you can store more than pictures on it. I spent the last year with the 'low disk space' notification on, uninstalling apps so i could update others. Now it's like i own an Android phone again
+ Bluetooth no longer hangs trying to connect to last device for 30-60s before you can connect to any other paired device
+ Bluetooth devices show battery levels
+ Google / Assistant voice commands launch to mic almost instantly
+ System feels very fast
+ Rotation lock improvement
+ New volume control works well
+ speakers sound perfect unless using Clearaudio+
+ Misc improvements
- new quick settings is both ugly and less useful
- can't get wifi calling in US (apparently) until 9 drops here because you need the oem....sin file
- still plenty of bloat on stock sony ROM
have you tried swapping the oem sin file with the 8.0 US oem file ?
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have you tried swapping the oem sin file with the 8.0 US oem file ?
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Yeah, tried adding the newest US to a TMobile and a custom firmware. I've only checked for wifi calling though, not volte specifically.
How is the battery life after the update ?
No bugs ?
And how did you proceed ?
What I don't like about version 9.
- Clock on the left
- Random GPS issues, apps or wdigets that can't find position. Never had this problem until the update.
- Screen auto-brightness almost always get it wrong. Old auto brightness functioned seamlessly, i forgot it was there. I'm always having to manual update the brightness now.
- UI Tuner hard to find, and important optiosn missing. How do I get the headset icon back??? I needed that.
- The top swipe down menu now requires 2 swipes the useful stuff, like the settings cog.
What I like about version 9.
Um... higher API level, so support for the future is better? That's honestly all I can think of at this point.
Hello Dean
What would you recommend for optimization of the Oreo version ? Firmware update, or just leave it stock ?
Hello.
For the brightness, just set it to what you want and after a while, it will be ok.
It learns your setting and will learn how you set it. so it's bad ton the beggining and then after 1 mouth it's ok.
It wass too bright for me at the beggining and i was always setting it down, now it's ok.
Yes that is not that important to me as battery life and gps
I've seeen several posts where people complain of important drain while the phone is idle
That would be a disaster
4G being unstable for everyday use or
GPS malfunctioning in the middle of a 6 day hike in the french alps would also not be so good
Of course it will be best if the phone is intuitive and the camera gets good results without having to remake the custom adjustments for each photo, but otherwise all the flashy stuff, speedtests etc is not really important unless you are a serious gamer.
4Gb ram is A LOT of power. When I was gaming it was only 64 kilo bytes (C64) and even my Imac only has 4Gb
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How is the battery life after the update ?
No bugs ?
And how did you proceed ?
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I can't compare battery life because with 8, I usually kept my phone in airplane mode and just used wifi calling and texts. That gave me great battery life around the house. I did use it heavily one day, lots of video calling and such. I got down to around 10% battery after 6:45 of screen time, so that's impressive!
I haven't used the GPS specifically.
The whole upgrade process was long because I backed up my DRM keys. Otherwise, just backup your data, use Xperifirm and newflasher -- it's easy.
Hi @jayarmstrong - would you please be able to share the procedure to update to that version?
I did receive a notification from Sony that it is available for my phone, but no methods work or detect the actual new version.
SONY support is asking for my patience, which I haven't got much of
TIA
Can you really install apps on the SD-card? That would be wonderfull, I already intended to buy the XZ4 compact, because I have not enough space
From what i have read, there isn't going to be a XZ4 Compact
Sopur said:
Can you really install apps on the SD-card? That would be wonderfull, I already intended to buy the XZ4 compact, because I have not enough space
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@Sopur I have upgraded to android 9 and unfortunately I can't install/move apps to SD card. To be clear Jayarmstrong said:
SD card is visible to apps!!! Meaning, you can store more than pictures on it.
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If I understand it correctly, it doesn't mean that you can now install apps on SD card. Or maybe I'm doing something wrong? But I think that this option is still blocked by Sony (as it was in android 8.0).
Csani said:
Hi @jayarmstrong - would you please be able to share the procedure to update to that version?
TIA
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If the built-in upgrade utility isn't offering the upgrade yet, it's probably not ready for your region. Doing it manually is a lot of work and the instructions are scattered around the forum with bits and pieces that are working, abandoned, or out of date. I don't have a complete set of directions to hand you but here's a couple snips from my notes:
backup DRM keys if you want your camera to work well edit: only needed if you're going to unlock bootloader or root
download new firmware using Xperifirm
install new firmware on your phone using Newflasher
to keep settings & data: delete persist*.sin, userdata*.sin, cache*.sin and all *.ta.*Data, settings and apps work as before
Janfry said:
@Sopur I have upgraded to android 9 and unfortunately I can't install/move apps to SD card. To be clear Jayarmstrong said:
If I understand it correctly, it doesn't mean that you can now install apps on SD card. Or maybe I'm doing something wrong? But I think that this option is still blocked by Sony (as it was in android 8.0).
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Sorry for the confusion. I can't install apps to the SD card but I can now direct apps to move their storage to the SD card. I'm doing this from the settings within apps, not from the Phone > Settings > Apps > Storage page. This was extremely helpful for me because I was able to move about 15GB of music, podcasts, books, etc. to the SD card.
There are other options, like rooting, that will allow you to move apps completely to the SD card, repartition your internal storage for more space, move apps to system locations, etc. Good luck!
Ok, so I could say to Whatsapp to storage media on the SD card again?
decker39 said:
From what i have read, there isn't going to be a XZ4 Compact
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Or is it?
https://www.t3.com/news/sony-xperia-xz4-compact-spotted-in-these-superb-images
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jayarmstrong said:
If the built-in upgrade utility isn't offering the upgrade yet, it's probably not ready for your region. Doing it manually is a lot of work and the instructions are scattered around the forum with bits and pieces that are working, abandoned, or out of date. I don't have a complete set of directions to hand you but here's a couple snips from my notes:
backup DRM keys if you want your camera to work well
download new firmware using Xperifirm
install new firmware on your phone using Newflasher
to keep settings & data: delete persist*.sin, userdata*.sin, cache*.sin and all *.ta.*Data, settings and apps work as before
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Thanks, bro - good to know. I think I will rather wait for the official update to hit me.
I simply haven't got the time any more like I had had before to mock around with these hacks.
But just out of curiosity, where are the .sin and .ta files kept? Or are they individually for each app?
Csani said:
Or is it?
https://www.t3.com/news/sony-xperia-xz4-compact-spotted-in-these-superb-images
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Lets hope it's true then :good:
Csani said:
But just out of curiosity, where are the .sin and .ta files kept? Or are they individually for each app?
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They are the partition files in the firmware you can download with Xperifirm if you choose to decimpress the files (which you should if you want to use newflasher).
You don't have to unlock your bootloader abd make a drm backup to install official Sony fw you download with newflasher. The drm keys only get wiped when you unlock. So if you don't want to root your phone, you can install a different customization (and Android version) by just downloading and flashing it with a locked bootloader.
Sopur said:
Ok, so I could say to Whatsapp to storage media on the SD card again?
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If Whatsapp has the option for external storage, then yes, it should work. On Oreo, on this phone, apps like Spotify, PocketCasts, Pocket, etc. could only see & use the internal storage. Now, the same apps can see the SD card and successfully move the bulk of their storage there.

Android System taking 8 GB

My Android system is taking 8GB, is this normal ?
My phone is just bootloader-unlocked, but not rooted, and without any custom rom installed
Is there a way to fix this ?
Thank you
Herel Adrastel said:
My Android system is taking 8GB, is this normal ?
My phone is just bootloader-unlocked, but not rooted, and without any custom rom installed
Is there a way to fix this ?
Thank you
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On my device the system is taking 11GB so doesn't seem unusual.
You can't change the size of system partition.
Also, there's 2 of them.
They're 2.5Gib each (on my 64Gib unit)
User data is only 51Gib. That's what you can be worried about. Updates to system apks do live on here.
I don't know what the storage tab is even counting as system... Possibly just all the partitions that you can't write to? (So they don't have to admit that your device has space you can't use).
Here's my guess...
The 64Gb is not Gib but base-10 Gb (ie. about 61Gib). Subtracting 51Gib userdata gives about 10Gib. My system is reported as 8.9Gb... Seems pretty close to me?
Herel Adrastel said:
My Android system is taking 8GB, is this normal ?
My phone is just bootloader-unlocked, but not rooted, and without any custom rom installed
Is there a way to fix this ?
Thank you
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Indeveloper settings disable log buffer and disable tracking in system tracing option and clear saved traces. If it doesn't work, make a factory reset. If it still doesn't work, flash latest stock rom with miui flash with clean all option selected.
cashflow67 said:
Indeveloper settings disable log buffer and disable tracking in system tracing option and clear saved traces. If it doesn't work, make a factory reset. If it still doesn't work, flash latest stock rom with miui flash with clean all option selected.
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Hey [ Cashflow67 ] can u post a screen-shot of the "log buffer disbale" and d "system tracking" options u mentioned. Its could help me alot, Thanks.
agbadino said:
Hey [ Cashflow67 ] can u post a screen-shot of the "log buffer disbale" and d "system tracking" options u mentioned. Its could help me alot, Thanks.
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Here screenshots. In system tracing, clear saved traces too.
Herel Adrastel said:
My Android system is taking 8GB, is this normal ?
My phone is just bootloader-unlocked, but not rooted, and without any custom rom installed
Is there a way to fix this ?
Thank you
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That's normal actually, depending on the phone and manufacturers such more features or bloatware. Considering A/B partitions, the system taking a bit more storage.

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