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If I root my mobile, do I lose my warranty? if so why because it only changes the software layer.
Because they can.
Sucks don't it.
By the way. A void warranty does NOT affect your statutory rights.
Un-rooting is easy enough, if you ever need to send it back.
tatey2457 said:
Un-rooting is easy enough, if you ever need to send it back.
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and what is the way back to the original ?
fourire said:
and what is the way back to the original ?
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flash an original RUU...and all root and custom rom away (gone)
with kind regards..Alex
Alex-V said:
flash an original RUU...and all root and custom rom away (gone)
with kind regards..Alex
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almost correct. you still have your custom amonra/clockworkmod recovery
tatey2457 said:
Un-rooting is easy enough, if you ever need to send it back.
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The problem with that is that the reason you will want to claim on your warranty is because your phone has failed in some way. Often, that failure can mean you can't unroot.
However, in my experience, HTC don't check the firmware of completely dead devices.
Regards,
Dave
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almost correct. you still have your custom amonra/clockworkmod recovery
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mmhhh...if i flash my original o2 ruu rom (from the o2 site) i lost custom recovery and also i have to root it again with unrevoked 3..!!??
with kind regards...Alex
Unfortunately for Telus users, there's no way to return back to stock. There is currently no 2.1 RUU for SLCD screens, let alone a specific one to telus.
I had some dead pixels on my Telus Desire, it was rooted, and i just exchanged it in store and noone even turned it on. I doubt you will ever encounter any trouble, as most of the front end staff won't know what rooting looks like.
Hello guys,
i've just bought this wonderfull device and i'm loving it...
so much that despite my signature i'm thinking to stay stock and not rooted for a while
but
i notice ram load gets around 1.1 gb out of 1.7 gb frquently and that loads of "bloatware apps" get in the ram memory.
now since i'm not rooted, is there any app or way to choose which apps must not open and get in the ram automatically ?
thanks
Not any effective way without root, I think. Task killers would only make the apps restart constantly and drain your battery. Greenify is really the best solution, but needs root.
However I must point out that unused ram is wasted ram. I've seen many users fanatic about keeping ram usage low, it's like having a huge gas tank on a car, but never filling more than a litre of gas.
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No such productive app until you root your device .
Best thing is to root.
Worst thing is to Task Manager.
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ok guys, so i guess going over 1gb of used ram is routine and not overloading
so for the time being i'll leave it as it is
thanks all
wwwpuntoit said:
ok guys, so i guess going over 1gb of used ram is routine and not overloading
so for the time being i'll leave it as it is
thanks all
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Just to remind you again, don't use RAM/Application killers. It's not effective and will make you consume more battery.
yep got it
You can delete some bloatwares in an official firmware from your PC and then you flash via Odin.
Memphis_ said:
You can delete some bloatwares in an official firmware from your PC and then you flash via Odin.
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This would invalidate my waranty ?
wwwpuntoit said:
This would invalidate my waranty ?
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This is possible but may complicate things.
I suggest stick to what you have now and if you decide to root, then it will be a piece of cake.
You can always go back to stock Samsung if you are just afraid of losing warranty.
yes i agree
but just so that i know :
OFFICIALLY, when you first root your phone, you have lost warranty once and forever ? i know you can flash back to stock and nobody will notice
it's just to understand properly how it works
wwwpuntoit said:
yes i agree
but just so that i know :
OFFICIALLY, when you first root your phone, you have lost warranty once and forever ? i know you can flash back to stock and nobody will notice
it's just to understand properly how it works
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You will void your warranty when you root.
You will get it back if you flash the stock Samsung firmware.
Simone said:
You will void your warranty when you root.
You will get it back if you flash the stock Samsung firmware.
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but you mean officially get it back ? or you just get it back because they don't know you have rooted before ?
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but you mean officially get it back ? or you just get it back because they don't know you have rooted before ?
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This thread wil help you. :victory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696
Simone said:
This thread wil help you. :victory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696
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probably i did not explain myself in the right way
i perfectly know how to root/unroot/flash roms and restock
i was just wondering how EXACLTY the warranty thing works
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probably i did not explain myself in the right way
i perfectly know how to root/unroot/flash roms and restock
i was just wondering how EXACLTY the warranty thing works
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Probably I did not explain myself in the right way, as well.
Rooted = Warranty is now void
Flash Stock Samsung Firmware + Unroot = Warranty OFFICIALLY back
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Probably I did not explain myself in the right way, as well.
Rooted = Warranty is now void
Flash Stock Samsung Firmware + Unroot = Warranty OFFICIALLY back
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ok thanks mate
Simone said:
You will void your warranty when you root.
You will get it back if you flash the stock Samsung firmware.
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This is not right for a few months:
Legality
Australia
Rooting of any device is legal if the purpose is to run legal apps
Europe
The Free Software Foundation Europe argues that it is legal to root or flash any device. According to the European Directive 1999/44/CE, replacing the original operating system with another does not void the statutory warranty that covers the hardware of the device for two years unless the seller can prove that the modification caused the defect.
United States
On July 26, 2010, the United States Copyright Office announced a new exemption making it officially legal to root a device and run unauthorized third-party applications, as well as the ability to unlock any cell phone for use on multiple carriers.
On October 28, 2012, the US Copyright Office updated their exemption policies. The rooting of smartphones continues to be legal "where circumvention is accomplished for the sole purpose of enabling interoperability of [lawfully obtained software] applications with computer programs on the telephone handset." However, the U.S. Copyright office refused to extend this exemption to tablets, arguing that the term "tablets" is broad and ill-defined, and an exemption to this class of devices could have unintended side effects
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http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31999L0044:EN:NOT
Memphis_ said:
This is not right for a few months:
EDIT
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31999L0044:EN:NOT
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For a few months? LOL
i'm confused guys,
so it's now legal to root devices ??
samsung should give repairs under warranty if devices are found to be non stock ?
Will I really lose my warranty if I unlock the bootloader and install custom ROMS?
And will I get back my warranty if I relock the boot loader and flash stock ROM?
Asus can't see I flashed my device in the past if I have stock ROM with locked bootloader, can they?
Can anyone tell me how this works exactly?
Everywhere I read I MAY risk to lose warranty.
Thanks in advance!
danielsinnema said:
Will I really lose my warranty if I unlock the bootloader and install custom ROMS?
And will I get back my warranty if I relock the boot loader and flash stock ROM?
Asus can't see I flashed my device in the past if I have stock ROM with locked bootloader, can they?
Can anyone tell me how this works exactly?
Everywhere I read I MAY risk to lose warranty.
Thanks in advance!
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No (well...can go either way)
Yes (although you don't really lose it in the first place)
Once you've flashed the factory image and relocked the bootloader, no they can't (only Nexus to have a tamper flag is the N5)
That warning is standard on all unlockable devices. It's a standard disclaimer they put on there just like any other company would (to cover their butts). However, I do see where the company is coming from. I've seen noobs unlock and start flashing, and then end up messing their device up beyond recovery. They then feel they have the right to get it repaired free of charge. If you know what you are doing, chances are good you'll be fine. If something is actually defective, and as long as you still have to ability to flash stock image and relock, you're good. That being said, I've also read stories of people getting RMAs successfully even though they were unlocked/rooted/ROMed. As long as you can make a case that the defect wasn't caused by your own doing, I would imagine you'd be okay.
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No (well...can go either way)
Yes (although you don't really lose it in the first place)
Once you've flashed the factory image and relocked the bootloader, no they can't (only Nexus to have a tamper flag is the N5)
That warning is standard on all unlockable devices. It's a standard disclaimer they put on there just like any other company would (to cover their butts). However, I do see where the company is coming from. I've seen noobs unlock and start flashing, and then end up messing their device up beyond recovery. They then feel they have the right to get it repaired free of charge. If you know what you are doing, chances are good you'll be fine. If something is actually defective, and as long as you still have to ability to flash stock image and relock, you're good. That being said, I've also read stories of people getting RMAs successfully even though they were unlocked/rooted/ROMed. As long as you can make a case that the defect wasn't caused by your own doing, I would imagine you'd be okay.
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Thanks mate for your explanation, I was looking for this.
I have some experience flashing android devices so I probably won't mess up my device I have bought my nexus 7 2013 recently and I don't want to have no warranty when I discover a hardware issue.. But everything seems to be fine actually. I'll install a cm 11 nightly soon.
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danielsinnema said:
Will I really lose my warranty if I unlock the bootloader and install custom ROMS?
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If you should ever need to bring your N7 to the service within the warranty, you will flash a stock ROM, unroot and lock the bootloader. Then you're 100% stock again with no sign of mods.
Do you have a N7 razor 2013?
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tetakpatak said:
If you should ever need to bring your N7 to the service within the warranty, you will flash a stock ROM, unroot and lock the bootloader. Then you're 100% stock again with no sign of mods.
Do you have a N7 razor 2013?
tetakpatalked from my N7100
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Yes, I think I have that version. I have the wifi only version.
Thanks for the tips man!
danielsinnema said:
Yes, I think I have that version. I have the wifi only version.
Thanks for the tips man!
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Good. Yes, it is probably razor flo, check to be sure. I have the same one. Just keep in mind to save all your data and settings elswhere as unlocking the bootloader for the first time will instantly wipe whole your tab and poasibly even corrupt the /data partition.
I have written this morning how to get out of it in one other N7 thread.
tetakpatalked from Nexus 7
tetakpatak said:
Good. Yes, it is probably razor flo, check to be sure. I have the same one. Just keep in mind to save all your data and settings elswhere as unlocking the bootloader for the first time will instantly wipe whole your tab and poasibly even corrupt the /data partition.
I have written this morning how to get out of it in one other N7 thread.
tetakpatalked from Nexus 7
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Yes I see.
I backed up everything in TWRP before I unlocked the bootloader.
I'm now have installed the latest nighty of Cm 11, which is running flawlessly.
Thank you all for telling me how stuff works!
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danielsinnema said:
Yes I see.
I backed up everything in TWRP before I unlocked the bootloader.
I'm now have installed the latest nighty of Cm 11, which is running flawlessly.
Thank you all for telling me how stuff works!
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Hey, great mate!
That's why we have a community here.
Don't hesitate to ask if anything.
tetakpatalked from Nexus 7
Yes thank you for creating this thread because then it helps encourage people like me want to root and learn things I want to learn to be a developer when I grow up!
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Hey all!
I'm new to Samsung completely, I have experience rooting, as I've had multiple Nexus devices, and other rootable phones. Just never had a Samsung. I recently took the Oreo OTA update, and was wondering about the best rooting method? Ive read that you lose secret folder. Is there a way to keep that?
Basically I just want to debloat more and theme without having to use Andromeda, as that is annoying.
zakkyzombie said:
Hey all!
I'm new to Samsung completely, I have experience rooting, as I've had multiple Nexus devices, and other rootable phones. Just never had a Samsung. I recently took the Oreo OTA update, and was wondering about the best rooting method? Ive read that you lose secret folder. Is there a way to keep that?
Basically I just want to debloat more and theme without having to use Andromeda, as that is annoying.
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At this point in time there is no root for the Verizon Samsung S8+.
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At this point in time there is no root for the Verizon Samsung S8+.
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Lame.
Thanks I appreciate your help.
Rooting for Verizon is not happening as of now as they Lock the Boot-Loader and just Phones aren't as easy to Root now
Yes it will work fine on oreo, as long as the 2nd to last number of the version you are on isn't a 3. Example:
Good: G950USQU2CRB7
Not Good: G950USQU3CRC6
^-- That right there is a no no for now
But afaik there is so rom in existence for 950u with a 3 there. Just something to watch for in the future.
You don't need to flash back to nougat stock first either. Your should be able to go straight to pcr. If you have trouble with the first step you can try flashing part 2 first, followed by 1 then 2 again, but i fine expect you will have any issues.
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If you have nougat or a specific type of Oreo root is still possible with PartCyborgRom (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...root-partcyborgrom-aqk3-samfail-odin-t3717702)
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If you have nougat or a specific type of Oreo root is still possible with PartCyborgRom (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...root-partcyborgrom-aqk3-samfail-odin-t3717702)
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But this will take you back to Nougat QL1. There isn't a root for our phones in Oreo yet. Darn Verizon.
ikoyhn said:
If you have nougat or a specific type of Oreo root is still possible with PartCyborgRom (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...oot-partcyborgrom-aqk3-samfail-odin-t3717702)
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I have a 2!
So basically what I'm gathering is, it downgrades the bootloader or kernal to a rootable state, then with wizardry I can flash a Oreo rom?
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I have a 2!
So basically what I'm gathering is, it downgrades the bootloader or kernal to a rootable state, then with wizardry I can flash a Oreo rom?
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Not exactly, this is a root/rom combo. So it will downgrade you back to Nougat version 2 bootloader firmware, root your device, and flash a ROM all at the same time. So there is no way to flash a different ROM since the rooting process and ROM flashing is built into one step.
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But this will take you back to Nougat QL1. There isn't a root for our phones in Oreo yet. Darn Verizon.
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True, but if anyone is still lucky enough to be on version 2 bootloader on Oreo they still can downgrade to Nougat version 2 bootloader and use that Root/ROM combo to root their device since it works on ver. 2 bootloader but not 3. And yeah, screw Verizon!
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Not exactly, this is a root/rom combo. So it will downgrade you back to Nougat version 2 bootloader firmware, root your device, and flash a ROM all at the same time. So there is no way to flash a different ROM since the rooting process and ROM flashing is built into one step.
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True, but if anyone is still lucky enough to be on version 2 bootloader on Oreo they still can downgrade to Nougat version 2 bootloader and use that Root/ROM combo to root their device since it works on ver. 2 bootloader but not 3. And yeah, screw Verizon!
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Ahh. Makes sense. Basically flashing a modded factory image?
I want to but am wondering what happens to the secure folder?
zakkyzombie said:
Ahh. Makes sense. Basically flashing a modded factory image?
I want to but am wondering what happens to the secure folder?
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Yeah its flashing an engineered firmware, and it trips knox which is needed for secure folder I think. I looked on my S8+ and couldn't find secure folder anywhere, so I'm guessing the ROM removes it.
Wrenerry said:
How is your battery life... ?
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I get about 6Hrs screen on time
nougat so it kinda sounds like i should not take the oreo update if i want to root / mod my s8+is that true or not? Thanks (my 1st samsung from htc)
Dayliter said:
nougat so it kinda sounds like i should not take the oreo update if i want to root / mod my s8+is that true or not? Thanks (my 1st samsung from htc)
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Yeah, I'd stay on Nougat.
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Yeah, I'd stay on Nougat.
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Man, I miss the days of flashing roms. Back on my note 3, i used to flash a new rom weekly and had a ball customizing things and seeing what new roms were comming out.
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Man, I miss the days of flashing roms. Back on my note 3, i used to flash a new rom weekly and had a ball customizing things and seeing what new roms were comming out.
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Whatever happened to those days. S**t, the last few ROMs I was flashing on the N6 were all pretty much the same. I miss being pissed off that one rom had all the things I wanted but looked hideous. Then everything got CM based and themes were everywhere. Then it all just got the same. Then it all got locked down. Almost like Android and Google were playing the devs getting them to make the mods, then them steal them, and incorporate them, then lock it down.
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Whatever happened to those days. S**t, the last few ROMs I was flashing on the N6 were all pretty much the same. I miss being pissed off that one rom had all the things I wanted but looked hideous. Then everything got CM based and themes were everywhere. Then it all just got the same. Then it all got locked down. Almost like Android and Google were playing the devs getting them to make the mods, then them steal them, and incorporate them, then lock it down.
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yeah, by the time the N6 was out things were pretty bad. But back in the N3 days - they were good.
ikoyhn said:
If you have nougat or a specific type of Oreo root is still possible with PartCyborgRom (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...root-partcyborgrom-aqk3-samfail-odin-t3717702)
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I'm sorry for this basic question, but does the phone being carrier unlocked make any difference? I know that has nothing to do with the bootloader; I'm simply asking if the phone not being Verizon-specific has any effect on rootability ... I was just about to purchase an unlocked S8+ when I saw this thread and almost spewed Mountain Dew all over my monitor. I had no idea Verizon had squelched root, although no surprise there, right?
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I'm sorry for this basic question, but does the phone being carrier unlocked make any difference? I know that has nothing to do with the bootloader; I'm simply asking if the phone not being Verizon-specific has any effect on rootability ... I was just about to purchase an unlocked S8+ when I saw this thread and almost spewed Mountain Dew all over my monitor. I had no idea Verizon had squelched root, although no surprise there, right?
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if its unlocked and international version, and you use it on verizon, you can still root without any problems from verizon. only verizon variant there is that crappy problem
hunteditor said:
I'm sorry for this basic question, but does the phone being carrier unlocked make any difference? I know that has nothing to do with the bootloader; I'm simply asking if the phone not being Verizon-specific has any effect on rootability ... I was just about to purchase an unlocked S8+ when I saw this thread and almost spewed Mountain Dew all over my monitor. I had no idea Verizon had squelched root, although no surprise there, right?
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Yeah there is root for all carrieres (verizon, tmobil, sprint, att) but its limited and the bootloader is still locked. I would still get a the international version, better root, more Roms, etc...
Unlocked vs International?
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Yeah there is root for all carrieres (verizon, tmobil, sprint, att) but its limited and the bootloader is still locked. I would still get a the international version, better root, more Roms, etc...
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When you say international version, is that simply the carrier unlocked version? And do you know if there is a certain model number or letter designation after the model number I should be looking for? I'm shopping on Swappa and eBay and need to be really careful. Thank you for the help, by the way.
Im trying to root the phone and install some brick prevention. I used helium backup already, is that enough?
And is it possible to turn on oem unlocking yet on the US models?
Also fastboot wont work.
No such thing as fastboot on Samsung phones.
There's plenty of information in these Note20 Ultra forums on the ins & outs of rooting, use the search function to locate the appropriate threads.......
A $1G paper weight.
Why do you want to root it?
These phones can run well, stock.
If it seems like a bad idea, it probably is.
blackhawk said:
A $1G paper weight.
Why do you want to root it?
These phones can run well, stock.
If it seems like a bad idea, it probably is.
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What a smug response. I'm loving this phone, I just want Linux on it and don't want to turn it into a $1000 paperweight.
And I also just want to know if helium is enough to prevent a brick.
Mwezi66 said:
What a smug response. I'm loving this phone, I just want Linux on it and don't want to turn it into a $1000 paperweight.
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Android is a modified Linux kernel.
There's always risk to rooting especially if you are inexperienced.
blackhawk said:
Android is a modified Linux kernel.
There's always risk to rooting especially if you are inexperienced.
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Do you know if helium is enough to prevent a brick? Cus if not ion wanna hear it
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Do you know if helium is enough to prevent a brick? Cus if not ion wanna hear it
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I don't think enough people use it to get an honest reply, aren't these features that Titanium Backup can do?
Don't try my friend
US devices cannot be rooted because they come with a locked bootloader from the source
windows4droid said:
Don't try my friend
US devices cannot be rooted because they come with a locked bootloader from the source
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You are misinformed. 9 series to nearly current anything one ui 3.0 and lower can be bootloader unlocked and rooted.
Nothing is enough to prevent a brick. There is no oem unlock. No fast boot.