Can't make it through the day on a single charge, and to make matters worse, where my iPhone used to climb 50% in less than an hour, the desire charges at a glacial pace. Screw froyo, do something about the battery life, HTC.
Vlad_M said:
Can't make it through the day on a single charge, and to make matters worse, where my iPhone used to climb 50% in less than an hour, the desire charges at a glacial pace. Screw froyo, do something about the battery life, HTC.
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so you're using froyo and your desire can't make it through a day?
I think he means he thinks HTC should concentrate on sorting the battery life and not on pushing out Froyo.
But tbh with heavy use my Desire lasts around 24 hours to maybe 36 tops on a full charge and also charges quickly through mains (not throught usb on pc that's slow).
I think he has a bad battery or is using a crap rom. Or has brightness on full, wifi on all day and bluetooth too.
I think "heavy usage" is a relative term. My wife and I both have the same phone, and are experiencing the same problems, so I don't think it's a case of a bad battery. My brightness is on auto, yes, wifi is on all the time however isn't this the point - so that the phone can use wifi for data when in a know network?
The phone is not rooted, therefore using the stock ROM.
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I think "heavy usage" is a relative term. My wife and I both have the same phone, and are experiencing the same problems, so I don't think it's a case of a bad battery. My brightness is on auto, yes, wifi is on all the time however isn't this the point - so that the phone can use wifi for data when in a know network?
The phone is not rooted, therefore using the stock ROM.
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*#*#4636#*#* in Phone, goto Battery History, then select Partial Wake Usage in the top drop down box, if anything is going above a very tiny blue bar, check it out.
Android system has quite a significant blue bar representing it. Now what?
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Android system has quite a significant blue bar representing it. Now what?
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There are loads of "tweaks" you can make to improve battery life of your handset... you can try the following and it should make a huge difference for you, and result in longer battery life span:
1. Lower screen brightness. Go to Settings -> Sound & display -> Brightness. Slide the brightness switch to the left to lower it or check the "Automatic brightness" box to let the phone use its sensors to adjust the screen according to the ambient light. You can also find dedicated screen brightness widgets in Android Market.
2. Turn off 3G, WiFi, GPS, and Bluetooth when you don't need them. The easiest way to manage these wireless radios is to use the Settings widget preinstalled on your phone. Tap the + button on your home screen -> Widget -> Settings. Once your chosen widgets are on any of your home screens, a simple tap turns each one on/off. You can also use "Power Control" widget found in home screen -> Widget -> Power Control. There are other widgets that do this in Android Market (e.g. SwitchPro), but these are already preinstalled and they're a nice-looking set.
3. Disable WiFi and 3G network notifications. Go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Wi-Fi settings. Uncheck the Network notification box so your phone isn't constantly scanning and looking for open networks to tell you about. For 3G, go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile Networks.
4. Disable "always on" mobile data. This is one of the biggest battery savers. Go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks. Tap "Enable always-on mobile data" to uncheck the box. I haven't found a negative consequence of disabling this feature, as Gmail and other apps/functions still work perfectly.
5. Turn off background data. If you're not using Google services, go to Settings -> Accounts & sync and uncheck the Background data box so that applications cannot sync, send, and receive data whenever they want to.
6. Lower the screen timeout interval. The phone's screen can be set to automatically turn off when you don't interact with it for a predetermined amount of time: 15 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute, 2 minutes, 10 minutes, or never. Depending on what you're doing, a too-short interval can become annoying (especially if you didn't disable your lock screen), so choose wisely.
7. Manually turn off the screen when not in use. Since the screen timeout function ensures that the phone's screen will turn off (unless you have it set to "never turn off"), it can be tempting to put the phone down when you're done using it and just let the screen turn off by itself. Instead, give the power button at the top of the phone a quick push to turn it off manually.
8. Turn off auto-sync. Go to Settings -> Accounts & sync -> Auto-sync.
9. Change auto-sync frequency (Weather, News, Stocks, Twitter, etc). If you don't want to turn off auto-sync, you can adjust how frequently data is retrieved/updated. The settings vary depending on the app (and some don't offer the setting at all), but it's generally found in the same place: Settings -> Accounts & sync. Select an account from the list and then tap "Account settings" to change the sync frequency.
10. Disable wireless network location services when not needed. Go to Settings -> Location -> Use wireless networks. Note that this (or one of the other options) needs to be enabled if you want to see and/or use your location in apps like Maps.
11. Turn off window animations. To turn it off, go to Settings -> Sound & display -> Animation -> No animations.
12. Don't use a live wallpaper. Use a static wallpaper instead.
13. Use a dark wallpaper. Some say that dark wallpapers are more energy efficient than light wallpapers. Others say it doesn't make any difference. Either way, there's no harm in using a dark wallpaper so you may as well do it.
14. Change WiFi sleep policy. This may sound counter-intuitive, but leaving WiFi on when the phone isn't being used and the screen is off is actually better than letting it sleep. When WiFi sleeps, 3G wakes up to sync, get email, and retrieve other data. 3G will eat up more battery than WiFi, so go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Wi-Fi Settings. Press the Menu button and tap Advanced, then Wi-Fi sleep policy. Choose "Never" from the pop-up menu.
15. Monitor your running services (or consider using a task killer). Just because Android 2.1 is supposed to an intelligent operating system that will manage your running apps for you doesn't mean it will always do things the way you want them to be done.
You can take matters into your own hands by going to Settings -> Applications -> Running services, where you can view what your phone is doing and manually stop certain activities. You can also download a third-party task killer from Android Market and kill selected apps to free up some resources and potentially save some power. Task killers are a polarizing topic in the Android community, so tread lightly when looking for recommendations or asking for help with them.
16. Choose your home screen widgets carefully. Widgets that need access to the internet to update information (e.g., Facebook, Twitter, Engadget, Slacker Radio, Weather, Stocks, News, Mail) can suck up a lot of juice if not managed well, so choose them carefully and set their sync/update frequencies to a reasonable interval.
17. Disable notification lights. This may not be practical if you're someone who really needs/wants to know when something happens on your phone when you're not looking, but for everyone else, feel free to turn off those notifications. Go to Settings -> Sound & display -> Notification flash and uncheck all the boxes.
18. Turn off phone vibration. If the ringer is on, why do you need the phone to vibrate? You're already in a loud environment that drowns out the ring; answering the call won't quiet your surroundings so you can hear what the person at the end of the line is saying.
And if your phone is set to silent, then an incoming call should be silent. Yes, the buzzing vibration may not be disruptive as your ringtone, but people still hear it.
So go to Settings -> Sound & display -> Phone vibrate and turn it off.
19. Turn off audible touch tones. In Settings -> Sound & display, uncheck Audible selection and turn off Audible touch tones.
20. Turn off haptic feedback. Once you get the hang of typing on the phone's on-screen keyboard, you can turn off the haptic feedback that was turned on by default. Go to Settings -> Language & keyboard -> Touch Input -> Text input -> Vibrate when typing.
You can disable haptics in other areas of the system by going to Settings -> Sound & display -> Haptic feedback.
Hi,
Had major battery problems before.
It seemed media was always running and draining battery.
This weekend i bought a new microsSD card an that somehow solved all my issues.
Migt be that something on my sd card was causing the power drain.
Try formating the sd card with pc and the insert it again in phone.
Peculiar. I have a perfectly standard Desire, nothing modified and get a day easily. I do have Juice Defender enabled (easy mode)
Sometimes I am just wondering ... We need to turn off so much in order to get decent battery life
I am watching the new iPhone 4 announcement ... it has much better hardware and very good battery life (10 hours video playing!).
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4. Disable "always on" mobile data. This is one of the biggest battery savers. Go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks. Tap "Enable always-on mobile data" to uncheck the box. I haven't found a negative consequence of disabling this feature, as Gmail and other apps/functions still work perfectly.
5. Turn off background data. If you're not using Google services, go to Settings -> Accounts & sync and uncheck the Background data box so that applications cannot sync, send, and receive data whenever they want to.
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So with these two off, my Exchange and Gmail will still sync?
Vlad_M said:
So with these two off, my Exchange and Gmail will still sync?
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Yes, disabling the Background Data will affect the auto sync to Google.
I think Im seeing light at the end of the tunnel...
I hated the batterylife when I first got the Desire. I disabled everything, no live wallpapers, no automatic updates, only couple widgets etc. I barely managed one day.
NOW after several weeks of usage, guess what. I am using automatic brightness, live wallpapers (starfield), News widget and Friends stream updating every hour, GMAIL. I surf some, read emails, play game or two, bit of GPS and Copilot, calls and txts... and I get through about two days!
I think the battery gets better with time!
On the South African forums where we discussed the phone everyone complains that it starts off bad, but after about a week the battery life is much much better....I am but 5 days in, and it's better, but let's see how much it improves.
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Yes, disabling the Background Data will affect the auto sync to Google.
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Can you elaborate on that? What is auto sync to Google if not gmail?
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Can you elaborate on that? What is auto sync to Google if not gmail?
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Well, if you have an unlimited data plan, then you might as well leave auto-sync and background data on.
Autosyncing allows for push e-mail with gmail.
If you try switching off auto-sync and background data, it means that you will not get the notifications in real-time from Facebook, for example, and on the drag down menu, and other similar things.
I have tried turning off background data, and not noticed any ill effects... I still get my push gmail etc....
EDIT: actually, turning off Background Data will stop push email happening as there's no data connection, or a periodic pull of email happening again, because of no background connection.
I guess it's a bit of a tradeoff really - connectivity vs battery life.
so far i have to say the battery is far worse than the HD2 with a good rom and radio but maybe its somthing to do with the fact this is new to me and i am playing more
The above statements read very contradictory.
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The above statements read very contradictory.
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over all with both phones running with same kind of stuff updating the HD2 useing xanny's evo rom 2.2 with radio 2.11 eats far less battery than the desire even though the HD2 has a 1240 mah battery and desire a 1400 mah but the my desire is new so i playing lots more but i am quite sure at the moment on even terms the HD2 set up i have will last far longer on one charge than my stock desire.
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I am watching the new iPhone 4 announcement ... it has much better hardware and very good battery life (10 hours video playing!).
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Apple says the iPhone 4 is rated at 7 hours of 3G talk.
HTC says the Desire is rated at 6.5 hours of 3G talk.
Not much of a difference in paper.
Still, let's see how thing will go in practical use.
In every day life, I know many people that charge their iPhone (3GS) 2 times every day. Now that sucks even more.
On my BlackBerry, I could tell the thing to turn off/on the attenna at certain times. This allowed me to disable notifications at night and resume them when I got up.
If there isn't one, is there one for sound? Sometimes I forget to turn it off and woken up multiple times due to incoming messages at night.
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On my BlackBerry, I could tell the thing to turn off/on the attenna at certain times. This allowed me to disable notifications at night and resume them when I got up.
If there isn't one, is there one for sound? Sometimes I forget to turn it off and woken up multiple times due to incoming messages at night.
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If you have some tech/application savvy, then get Tasker in the Marketplace for a couple bucks. It's like a custom feature development program; basically it lets you establish 'profiles' i.e., conditions under which certain 'tasks' are triggered, then the tasks themselves.
So for example, you would create a profile called 'Sleepy Time'; you could set that profile to activate when you hit a toggle switch, or you can even set it to turn on at a pre-specified hour. Hell, you can even set it to turn on at a pre-specified hour unless you have an active data session running.
The possibilities are somewhat limitless, but that's why I recommend it for more savvy users, because you have to 'build' the profiles and tasks manually (it's not very difficult, but it's not like your one-and-done single-purpose apps). Also, some folks post their purpose-specific pre-built profiles on the developers wiki for others to use.
Same goes for sound. You can have it disable all sounds except your alarm clock starting at a certain hour, you can even program it to disable all sounds unless you receive a call from, e.g., your wife/girlfriend/mistress.
Other than that, Juice Defender (also marketplace app), also has customized profiles for night, etc. and is much easier to configure (though you are more limited on WHAT you can configure). You need the Ultimate (paid) version for access to the most granular optimizations (e.g., disable all data synchronization between 1:30AM and 6:30 AM unless the screen is on, auto-disable my wi-fi when I'm not home, etc.).
As a recovering Blackberry user, I can empathize with some of your withdrawal symptoms. If you do end up with Tasker, PM me and and I will send you a copy of the profiles/tasks I built to replicate the Blackberry 'Sound Profiles' feature using a one-touch widget.
Juice defender, a couple bucks on the market saves your sleep. A few profiles and your set plus good training to get you started for the future. The extra battery life is just sauce for the goose
Hi there,
It looks like my phone is not "working" when in idle. For example, I need to open my Gmail app to update my email. When I get a sound notification for a supposedly new email, it's usually a 1 or 2 hours email.
Is there a setting I changed by mistake? Do you guys encounter this issue?
Thx guys
MIUI has quite aggressive doze by default, but it doesn't impact Gmail for me. Some apps might need toggling these settings:
1. enable autostart in app info
2. lock app in memory in recents screen
3. disable battery optimization in app info
But I would suspect that you have enabled Battery saver function - make sure that it's off (search for it in system settings).
Hi,
Gmail app is not listed in the menu where I can adjust the way the battery acts with it
And no, my battery saver is not activated
Still digging... if I don't reply back in several days, I may be completely lost into my hole