what happens when you take small ota on rooted phone - OnePlus 7T Questions & Answers

As the title states. Am just wondering what happens exactly when you take a ota on a rooted device. Am not talking about the full ota. Am talking about the smaller otas just curious to know

v.konvict said:
As the title states. Am just wondering what happens exactly when you take a ota on a rooted device. Am not talking about the full ota. Am talking about the smaller otas just curious to know
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You can't on OOS. You have to take full.

jhlogan said:
You can't on OOS. You have to take full.
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That much i know. I want to know what will happen

v.konvict said:
That much i know. I want to know what will happen
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Do it then tell us

ej8989 said:
Do it then tell us
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Am sure its already been done just wanna understand how root affects the partions when taking an ota

v.konvict said:
Am sure its already been done just wanna understand how root affects the partions when taking an ota
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You'll end up breaking your phone's functionality, simply causing boot looping, unable to root your device and have to install a full base factory ota to fix the damage done. And you wouldn't even be able to backup anything either since the device will basically be semi-bricked

Shen Ron said:
You'll end up breaking your phone's functionality, simply causing boot looping, unable to root your device and have to install a full base factory ota to fix the damage done. And you wouldn't even be able to backup anything either since the device will basically be semi-bricked
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Thanks for this. Am not new to flashing updates with root. Was hoping for a more detailed explanation. Like the ota updates a certain partition which when rooted will cause a bootloop because a certain partition wont readable

v.konvict said:
Thanks for this. Am not new to flashing updates with root. Was hoping for a more detailed explanation. Like the ota updates a certain partition which when rooted will cause a bootloop because a certain partition wont readable
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Every partition except the boot partition will be ok for the most part but you'll still end up boot looping even if you installed magisk over again, so unless you do a fresh install which depending on how badly you messed something up or forgot to disable any modules, you will have to start from scratch to save your phone. But if you already made a backup whether it's before everything went south or in twrp to save your data then you should be okay

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New HTC One M9 Verizon Update?

Anyone know what this is for?
Jrocker23 said:
Anyone know what this is for?
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Hm. 612 megs. That could be....well let's see.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Installed and currently on the Android is upgrading/Optimizing apps screen...... Hopefully won't take too much longer.
software repair patch for 5.1 as told by vzw customer service. what it is repairing i dont know
3.10.605.7 / Base: 2.12.C1144073
Nothing different.... Seems just like a security patch.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/htc-one-m9-update/
SnoStorm said:
Nothing different.... Seems just like a security patch.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/htc-one-m9-update/
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One can only wonder what the heck verizon does to their software such that it requires a 612meg security patch huh?
Anyhow.. Time to use that nandroid i posed in the dev section to accept the OTA.. -or- I will post an updated one later this evening.
Probably 600mb of updated NFL bloatware included and the rest just the security update.
Any word yet on whether this is really just a 612Meg security patch?
jtommyj said:
Any word yet on whether this is really just a 612Meg security patch?
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yup, nothing special
Anyone know if letting this thing run and update will break root? I'm stock, rooted. Don't want to lose that and not be able to get it back myself.
baune7 said:
Anyone know if letting this thing run and update will break root? I'm stock, rooted. Don't want to lose that and not be able to get it back myself.
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are you SOFF? if so, you will be fine
Yes.. I'm s-off and unlocked. So after it updates, will it still be rooted? Or would I havery to re-root it? I'm just worried because my cable Internet isn't working for a few days and I need my wifi tether. Thanks
Ran into an issue with this update. It failed to install on 11/3 with a error code 409, but when I try to download it again by selecting "Check for new system updates" it says I have the latest update. I've rebooted a number of times and it shows up every time. From what little information I can find online, I have to reset my phone to factory then attempt to update again. I want to avoid this so here I am.
I'm on my phone so I can't properly upload the screenshots. I posted Google Drive links for now
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B__V8WYcxeW8dkVxOXktZXZHcVU/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B__V8WYcxeW8YWdsU1kyMmZOcFk/view?usp=sharing
gumbyx84 said:
Ran into an issue with this update. It failed to install on 11/3 with a error code 409, but when I try to download it again by selecting "Check for new system updates" it says I have the latest update. I've rebooted a number of times and it shows up every time. From what little information I can find online, I have to reset my phone to factory then attempt to update again. I want to avoid this so here I am.
I'm on my phone so I can't properly upload the screenshots. I posted Google Drive links for now
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B__V8WYcxeW8YWdsU1kyMmZOcFk/view?usp=docslist_api
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B__V8WYcxeW8dkVxOXktZXZHcVU/view?usp=docslist_api
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Flash the custom firmware zip and restore the nandroid I posted of the update. Then wipe data for the app htcdm. Flash supersu.zip and you're done.
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dottat said:
Flash the custom firmware zip and restore the nandroid I posted of the update. Then wipe data for the app htcdm. Flash supersu.zip and you're done.
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I'm not rooted.
Update: I decided to just to a factory reset. Thankfully it worked and I am at the latest firmware.
So I've tried letting this update run a couple times. Downloading for the third time as I write this. When it tries to install, it just reboots into TWRP recovery and does nothing. Then I restart the phone and basically start the process all over again. Any guidance on how to get this squared away?? I met one of the members here with a card who S-offed, unlocked, rooted, my phone which I'm thankful for. Just want to be stock rooted is all. Don't really do much with custom roms on this phone. Thanks.
baune7 said:
So I've tried letting this update run a couple times. Downloading for the third time as I write this. When it tries to install, it just reboots into TWRP recovery and does nothing. Then I restart the phone and basically start the process all over again. Any guidance on how to get this squared away?? I met one of the members here with a card who S-offed, unlocked, rooted, my phone which I'm thankful for. Just want to be stock rooted is all. Don't really do much with custom roms on this phone. Thanks.
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I'm pretty sure you need stock recovery to take an OTA.
SigLover21 said:
I'm pretty sure you need stock recovery to take an OTA.
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Ok.. Thanks.. I'll have to check into that

How would the radio break when you root?

I know there are ways around breaking the radio, but I'm just really curious. How would rooting break the radio? Does it have something to do with the weird encryption that comes on some Marshmallow devices now? Thanks.
kernelpanic_ said:
I know there are ways around breaking the radio, but I'm just really curious. How would rooting break the radio? Does it have something to do with the weird encryption that comes on some Marshmallow devices now? Thanks.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but that was only in the early root guides. I think its been fixed because even after a week and a half after the launch, I rooted and didn't lose radios. Just follow the original root guide and you'll be fine. Or just install twrp and then leedroid or viper rom and make it much simpler for yourself
kernelpanic_ said:
I know there are ways around breaking the radio, but I'm just really curious. How would rooting break the radio? Does it have something to do with the weird encryption that comes on some Marshmallow devices now? Thanks.
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btort1 said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but that was only in the early root guides. I think its been fixed because even after a week and a half after the launch, I rooted and didn't lose radios. Just follow the original root guide and you'll be fine. Or just install twrp and then leedroid or viper rom and make it much simpler for yourself
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true the previous version of supersu rooting used to mess up encryption and break your signal post which they had set the flag to enforce encryption and thus letting you root and retain radio but then if you decrypt your data manually you used to lose radio again..
but now almost all of the custom roms like ice lee viper does let you root and decrypt data and radio works fine...
i have tried it on ice and lee both works fine and i am currently decrypted with super 2.74-2 system mode from su thread
SacredDeviL666 said:
true the previous version of supersu rooting used to mess up encryption and break your signal post which they had set the flag to enforce encryption and thus letting you root and retain radio but then if you decrypt your data manually you used to lose radio again..
but now almost all of the custom roms like ice lee viper does let you root and decrypt data and radio works fine...
i have tried it on ice and lee both works fine and i am currently decrypted with super 2.74-2 system mode from su thread
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So it does have something to do with the encryption
Side question for you - Have you noticed performance differences between encrypted and non?
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So it does have something to do with the encryption
Side question for you - Have you noticed performance differences between encrypted and non?
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Personally, I haven't noticed much difference, if any, at all between encrypted and unencrypted. Haven't bothered running any benchmarks, though, either.
schreckles said:
Personally, I haven't noticed much difference, if any, at all between encrypted and unencrypted. Haven't bothered running any benchmarks, though, either.
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So it does have something to do with the encryption
Side question for you - Have you noticed performance differences between encrypted and non?
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doing benchmarks on both theres is no difference, if anything its a bit slower decrypted.
kernelpanic_ said:
I know there are ways around breaking the radio, but I'm just really curious. How would rooting break the radio? Does it have something to do with the weird encryption that comes on some Marshmallow devices now? Thanks.
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also the losing of the radio during root, like said in pervious post is a thing of the past, fixed like the first week. Just make sure your using the latest twrp recovery, and this su
afuller42 said:
doing benchmarks on both theres is no difference, if anything its a bit slower decrypted.
also the losing of the radio during root, like said in pervious post is a thing of the past, fixed like the first week. Just make sure your using the latest twrp recovery, and this su
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No decrypted devices are always faster in performance due to less layer of security while ur soc tries to access files . but then again those differences are very hard to notice . . . encrypted devices are always a bit slower than decrypted. . .
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Flashfire supporting Pixel (XL)?

Hi
Does anyone know anything a out the current status of Flashfire on the Pixel (XL)?
I've tried to backup data and the screen turned black, afterwards I hard to hard reset the phone to get it working again.
niko26 said:
Hi
Does anyone know anything a out the current status of Flashfire on the Pixel (XL)?
I've tried to backup data and the screen turned black, afterwards I hard to hard reset the phone to get it working again.
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Good place to start https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire
danw_oz said:
Good place to start https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire
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I've tried to contact him already, plus asked him in one of his threads/posts. No response.
niko26 said:
I've tried to contact him already, plus asked him in one of his threads/posts. No response.
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It's probably because he got sick of being asked the same question over and over again.
If I read the XDA forums http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433 searching for the word PIXEL. This app appears that people have this working on Pixel XL, but not since the November release
danw_oz said:
It's probably because he got sick of being asked the same question over and over again.
If I read the XDA forums http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433 searching for the word PIXEL. This app appears that people have this working on Pixel XL, but not since the November release
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Thanks for your comment.
I was not asking why he was not replying to my questions - I've got total sympathy for that because the number of messages he might get must be insane.
My question still stands: Obviously Flashfire is not yet aware of the different layout of partitions on the Pixel phones. Does it still work correctly? If not, did Chainfire say anything about Flashfire being fixed to work with the pixels? I couldn't find anything, that's why I'm asking here.
I assume any announcement on it working on the Pixel will be made when it works on the Pixel. Much like superSU. (hope that doesnt sound like an ass thing to say) it's just the way things have been. unless someone else works on something and it looks like they are going to beat another dev to the punch, you don't usually see any info, much like boot-loader unlocks, rooting of a certain phone etc.. i.e when there is a bounty and team blahblah looks like they gonna take the glory, BANG! suddenly there's a solution that said dev was already working on secretly but wasn't planing on releasing any time soon but since there's competition, kinda thing. Know what I mean?
SuperSU is going to be a much higher priority for him to get going reliably with twrp and the new partition layout.
larsdennert said:
SuperSU is going to be a much higher priority for him to get going reliably with twrp and the new partition layout.
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Hey just curious what you mean by this. I know that TWRP has some bugs but I thought everything with SuperSU was worked out
I'm thinking they are still working on having them coexist without one wiping the other
larsdennert said:
I'm thinking they are still working on having them coexist without one wiping the other
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No they work fine, especially SuperSU. TWRP is in alpha but works for installing and most other things but backup and restore does not yet.
larsdennert said:
I'm thinking they are still working on having them coexist without one wiping the other
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Wow, that was like week number one.
You're waaaaaay behind on updates.
Lol then we should get on chain fires case
larsdennert said:
SuperSU is going to be a much higher priority for him to get going reliably with twrp and the new partition layout.
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What? SuperSU working perfectly with twrp. As others said twrp still in alpha and some features are iffy, but SuperSU is solid.
Without Flashfire, how do we install a new OTA update if we are rooted? What's the proper/safe procedure?
s1dest3pnate said:
Without Flashfire, how do we install a new OTA update if we are rooted? What's the proper/safe procedure?
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Are you verizon?
Because if you're verizon then add Verizon to your profile so people can appropriately address your questions.
And add your freaking state/country while you're at it. :good:
CZ Eddie said:
Are you verizon?
Because if you're verizon then add Verizon to your profile so people can appropriately address your questions.
And add your freaking state/country while you're at it. :good:
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My apologies. T-Mobile, US - added to profile. Thanks for the suggestion!
s1dest3pnate said:
Without Flashfire, how do we install a new OTA update if we are rooted? What's the proper/safe procedure?
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You can sideload the update via ADB supposedly.
I've never used that method though.
I just flash the entire update on top of my old OS using flashboot and my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/info-how-restored-to-stock-soft-t3494478
Make sure to remove the -w from the script if you don't want your old data/apps wiped.
Then re-root your phone afterwards.
Nothing to worry about there if it's not a Verizon phone.
s1dest3pnate said:
Without Flashfire, how do we install a new OTA update if we are rooted? What's the proper/safe procedure?
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I do it like in this guide http://www.droid-life.com/2013/02/1...date-a-nexus-without-root-or-custom-recovery/
Very helpful, thanks guys. I did it and it worked - ran flash-all with -w removed. I wonder though if there's any downside to doing this that may not have been identified yet, such as extra space being taken up or diminished performance (even if negligible) possibly due to some duplication of data or something like that.
s1dest3pnate said:
Very helpful, thanks guys. I did it and it worked - ran flash-all with -w removed. I wonder though if there's any downside to doing this that may not have been identified yet, such as extra space being taken up or diminished performance (even if negligible) possibly due to some duplication of data or something like that.
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No, no downside at all. Flash all without the -w is how most people do it. It could even be argued that it is better.
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Does the 7x have a/b partitions?

I want to install magisk, but I still want to be able to take ota updates. I also want to keep the stock recovery if possible. Is there a good way to do this, or will I have to flash TWRP?
Edit: it looks like magisk v15 is bricking 7x's. Should I wait a bit before I try to install it?
I Could Be Dead Wrong But..
epickid37 said:
I want to install magisk, but I still want to be able to take ota updates. I also want to keep the stock recovery if possible. Is there a good way to do this, or will I have to flash TWRP?
Edit: it looks like magisk v15 is bricking 7x's. Should I wait a bit before I try to install it?
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I Do Believe You Need To Be Rooted To Install Magisk...
And to root you have to Unlock your Bootloader.
Your device will Reject Any and All O.T.A.'s with an Unsecure (A.K.A. Unlocked) Bootloader.
That's why you get that hidious *Warning!* message everytime you reboot.. your device knows it's unsecured.
You can sideload all the upcoming O.T.A.'s when someone makes them available.. I kinda doubt that is going to be on day one though.
The Nice thing about those of you that are rooting is, you can just pay the $18.00 bucks and bring your phone back to stock with that D.C. tool that is being discussed in the Q & A.. I assume it works on all variants ?
Anyway.. good luck to you if you do decide to go ahead and unlock that Bootloader.
RaiderWill said:
I Do Believe You Need To Be Rooted To Install Magisk...
And to root you have to Unlock your Bootloader.
Your device will Reject Any and All O.T.A.'s with an Unsecure (A.K.A. Unlocked) Bootloader.
That's why you get that hidious *Warning!* message everytime you reboot.. your device knows it's unsecured.
You can sideload all the upcoming O.T.A.'s when someone makes them available.. I kinda doubt that is going to be on day one though.
The Nice thing about those of you that are rooting is, you can just pay the $18.00 bucks and bring your phone back to stock with that D.C. tool that is being discussed in the Q & A.. I assume it works on all variants ?
Anyway.. good luck to you if you do decide to go ahead and unlock that Bootloader.
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Magisk is a rooting method, I know from experience that you don't already have to have a rooted phone. Also magisk v14 added a feature where you could patch the boot image and flash it via adb.
What's this "D.C. tool"? It sound interesting
Damn.. It's Been So Long..
epickid37 said:
Magisk is a rooting method, I know from experience that you don't already have to have a rooted phone. Also magisk v14 added a feature where you could patch the boot image and flash it via adb.
What's this "D.C. tool"? It sound interesting
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You Are 100% Correct...
You're conversing with an old "SuperSu" guy here.. I totally forgot mag's is a rooter like Su.
But you still have to Unlock that loader to make it happen.. You are not going to get any O.T.A.'s
I know Magisk can hide root for things like netflix... But not to recieve Vendor Updates.. unless things have changed drasticly.. please correct me if I'm wrong..
But again.. sideloading is always an option.
RaiderWill said:
You Are 100% Correct...
You're conversing with an old "SuperSu" guy here.. I totally forgot mag's is a rooter like Su.
But you still have to Unlock that loader to make it happen.. You are not going to get any O.T.A.'s
I know Magisk can hide root for things like netflix... But not to recieve Vendor Updates.. unless things have changed drasticly.. please correct me if I'm wrong..
But again.. sideloading is always an option.
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I'm probably wrong, but from what I've read, you can still take ota's with an unlocked bootloader?
A Virgin...
epickid37 said:
I'm probably wrong, but from what I've read, you can still take ota's with an unlocked bootloader?
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When It Comes To Huawei.. I'm A Virgin...
Every other phone I've seen, the O.T.A. will notify you that your system has been "Modified" and will not attempt the update.
When you root.. Your Phone Becomes Insecure.. and is vernable to Malware, Virus, Hacks and god knows what else.
O.T.A.'s are Signed Packages.. They Ain't Going To Da Hood To Do Business...
Keep it locked if you want everything on day 1.. Then you can Root to your hearts content.
epickid37 said:
I'm probably wrong, but from what I've read, you can still take ota's with an unlocked bootloader?
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Note u definitely can't take OTA updates with Magisk installed. What's worse is the normal recovery doesn't have a proper update option so u'll have to use Huawei's Dload method which fails if u have tampered the system. Restoring to the stock ROM with a locked bootloader is also incredibly hard on Huawei/Honor devices.
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ayush rao said:
Note u definitely can't take OTA updates with Magisk installed. What's worse is the normal recovery doesn't have a proper update option so u'll have to use Huawei's Dload method which fails if u have tampered the system. Restoring to the stock ROM with a locked bootloader is also incredibly hard on Huawei/Honor devices.
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Here's how to take ota updates with magisk. But what your saying is Huawei doesn't use recovery to update, they use proprietary methods that detect system modifications, right?
epickid37 said:
Here's how to take ota updates with magisk. But what your saying is Huawei doesn't use recovery to update, they use proprietary methods that detect system modifications, right?
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Thats not what I meant, Huawei does use the recovery to update like any other phone but their recovery doesn't let the user to sideload their own OTA files. U'll have to use their Dload method which is an absolute pain.
Further, the Magisk page u posted here mentions the system and vendor must not be modded so that means you can't use any app like Titanium Backup to block or uninstall apps since it tampers the system. Thats really annoying since the whole point of rooting is to modify the system. Also if u used TWRP then u will have a hard time trying to find the right recovery file corresponding to the firmware u r on. It is really hard for Honor devices since u'll have to download a large file and, using a tool on XDA, extract the images u need. IMO rooting this phone is worth it right now especially since it is new and will constantly be recieving OTAs in the coming months.
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ayush rao said:
Thats not what I meant, Huawei does use the recovery to update like any other phone but their recovery doesn't let the user to sideload their own OTA files. U'll have to use their Dload method which is an absolute pain.
Further, the Magisk page u posted here mentions the system and vendor must not be modded so that means you can't use any app like Titanium Backup to block or uninstall apps since it tampers the system. Thats really annoying since the whole point of rooting is to modify the system. Also if u used TWRP then u will have a hard time trying to find the right recovery file corresponding to the firmware u r on. It is really hard for Honor devices since u'll have to download a large file and, using a tool on XDA, extract the images u need. IMO rooting this phone is worth it right now especially since it is new and will constantly be recieving OTAs in the coming months.
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Ah, ok. Thank for your help!

when is the new security update for August out guys?

Just wondering when the new security update will be out as I feel the last one is making my battery drain quite a lot. Tried all the normal routine stuff and still nothing specially after two factory resets. Here is hoping that with the new software it will be fixed
Hey Goku80, judging solely by past-trends, it should most certainly be out today.
It's live guys! https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/crosshatch-pq3a.190801.002-factory-15db810d.zip
Flashed August full image from google website and touchscreen doesn't work. Can't even use pin to access phone. Anyone else?
BoboBrazil said:
Flashed August full image from google website and touchscreen doesn't work. Can't even use pin to access phone. Anyone else?
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Could I flash it without root? Sorry it has been a long while since I did something like this. I remember on the OnePlus you could flash manually
ota is not here yet
Goku80 said:
Could I flash it without root? Sorry it has been a long while since I did something like this. I remember on the OnePlus you could flash manually
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The OTA can be flashed using stock recovery. No wipe.
spotmark said:
The OTA can be flashed using stock recovery. No wipe.
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True but means I need to use ADB which I don't have a pc
Goku80 said:
True but means I need to use ADB which I don't have a pc
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You can flash it as long as your BL is unlocked. It has nothing to do with root. You still need to use the flash-all batch file though, so a computer is still necessary.

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