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Just curious if anyone else doesn't care about root anymore.
I haven't rooted since I took the Marshmallow update, and I don't miss a thing about root. My phone runs great without a custom kernel or the ability to write to the microSD with apps that don't normally get to do so.
I'm not arguing that being unrooted is better. The only real benefit to not having root is that I can just take the security updates OTA with no fuss or muss. But I'm not paranoid about security updates, so that doesn't matter much to me. It's just that if root was such a good thing, why don't I miss it?
I agree, it isn't work the effort anymore. My next Smart Phone will be Google only.
Yup, haven't rooted in a while. It's nice being able to take the security updates and keep the phone a little more locked down. Only thing I miss is ad blocking.
Not to derail this thread. I have some input for un-rooted users. But also my feelings for root.
You un-rooted users try Adguard? The Google Play version works for Samsung and Yandex browsers only.
The other browsers require the version that comes from their site.
But Adguard is limited to VPN only for un-rooted devices and may use a tad more RAM and battery and be slower. Rooted or not, Adguard may be the best ad-blocker for Android.
What about Good Lock? Can you run that on un-rooted marshmallow phone? Dunno, maybe you can?
Then there's package disabler apps on Google Play that you can use to deal with bloat. Tried those?
However, I'd miss root too much to go without it, personally. No V4A for easy tunes listening, Xposed customization (or custom ROMs) and individual core control, and one of my favorites: modified Swype with top number row and one added shortcut to edit keyboard.
What kind of screen on time are guys getting on battery stats? I usually get 8 hours plus on the stock sized capacity battery but that depends on what I'm using there phone for. -(Browsing seems less intensive compared to streaming, gaming, downloading and talking.-use effects stats the most...)
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idk about not needing root lol
but not needing a custom rom is acceptable lol
i know for me im stock rooted only to remove bloat center my clock to put percent in battery instead of on the side
plus once you have adaway and the 1 for youtube you cant go back *At least i think so*
I am not root as yet i have no problem so far yet with the stock rom
I have not rooted since the Marshmallow upgrade, either. I miss Titanium Backup and FolderMount, but I am too lazy to unroot for the frequent security updates.
I specifically root for AdAway and V4A sound processing. Being able to have root is more important to me than Android Pay, Samsung Pay, Samsung Apps Store, and all apps that force 1 minute video ads to play before you can do anything else.
Since Samsung has decided to start locking bootloaders on all new phones they sell, eliminating the possibility to root....its time for me to switch brands and even carriers. Its been a long time coming.
My next phone in 2 months will be on Cricket. I am leaving Sprint Postpaid after 12 years and will be saving $80 a month in plan cost on the 2 phones on my account... even after 18% employer discount on my Everything Data Family 1500 plan. I dont need unlimited data anymore and Cricket has faster LTE than Sprint in my area.
I am looking at buying the Nexus 6P (or the brand new HTC Nexus model), the Motorola Z (if they make an unlocked force edition) or the new Axon 7.
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I think root is not needed for now but if note 4 is note get nougat or further updates we will need root for custom roms or add new features our phone
Out of nowhere, I suddenly get this:
https://samsung-firmware.org/download/GALAXY Tab PRO/8be3/BTU/T900XXSBPL3/T900OXABOH4/
The Changes text is useless, literally just says "N" - but sure as hell isn't Nougat as it was only 80Mb. Just found it very odd since my 12.2 Pro is so old, I wasn't expecting any updates. And it's too old for the monthly security patch thing on newer devices.
Anyone know what it is about?
The 12.2" Pro isn't exactly like its younger siblings the 10.2, and 8.4. which only have 2Gbs of RAM to your 12's 3Gbs. As such you have managed to enjoy Lollipop, where as the rest of us have been left on KitKat. So it wouldn't surprise me that your getting updates. Besides Lollipop may be old, but it is still able to use the Security Updates, from Google. Assuming Samsung were still assed to pass those along.
Ah, I had no idea that the smaller ones didn't get lollipop. Let me assure you that updates to my tablet dried up a very long time ago!! That's why I was so surprised to receive this one out of the blue.
Wish they'd release another 12 inch tab
Yeah thing is IIRC.. Lollipop is the minimum level required to receive Google's monthly Security Fixes. Which is probably what was updated.
You could simply verify this by checking the Device Settings > About Device. Then scroll down till you spot it.
It might not be Marshmallow, but some of those Updates actually do fix things that needed fixing at the time. e.g Stage fright, or the Qualcomm Quadrooter Bugs.
Any ideas if Samsung finally will update Android on their phones including the new Note 10/10+ fast this year? P30 Pro will have acces to Android Q Beta this September...any news for the Note?
Was a reason i moved away from Samsung phones, i really like the Note 10 + and i really want to purchase it but, can't stand waiting month for the new Android version...
So what you think?
Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest
winol said:
Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest
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A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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If timely OS updates is high on your priority list, you bought the wrong phone.
I have owned the Note5, Note7, Note8, and Note9. I recall the Note 8 update to Oreo occurred the April after it was released, and the Note9 Pie update occurred in February after it was released (carrier versions, anyway). So you're looking at Q1 2020 for the update.
However, half the time the Android updates contain things that Samsung has already had in their software for a year or two, so... it's not that big a deal. That said, I still am always super excited when it happens (so I get it).
I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.
Hazzay88 said:
I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.
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Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything
torickray said:
Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything
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You are missing Android 10
really if you care about the android updates as soon as possible just go to a Pixel device. on the other hand just buy a phone you like and get the updates when they come, an android update doesn't really change a lot, a lot of what is added to the base android are features that are common among third parties, so for a device from a manufacturer like Samsung all the android update means is you get a bigger number and some of the phones features move from the Samsung UI to base Android.
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You are missing Android 10
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Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.
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A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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Software is important for EVERYBODY, what I tried to tell you is this: if you like/want a note10 device, it works fine as it is, it will update in due course, if the updates are your most uttmost concern, then a pixel would be the perfect choice for you, it is well known that samsung is never the first to issue updates, knowing this, better get something else
After seeing the YouTube video of One UI 2.0 over Android 10, I can't see anything that exciting. Android 9 (RIP desserts) runs great, and 10 looked like a very incremental update.
Just enjoy your phone you just got it . Q will come orob will get 10 and 11 . Let's get 9 working good before we think of getting 10
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Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.
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You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late
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You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late
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there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.
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there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.
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I had the Pixel 2 XL and when the update came through my battery life improved which was already good but improvement in any department is good.
Why should you come to this forum and complain about Samsung update when you know how they work?
We all know the update will take some time to be available since the moment we buy it. We like this phone not because of the google update that we eventually will get, but because of the features that not available even with latest google update.
You should buy pixel and iphone then. Or huawei.
Exactly
I've only had one recent "need" for an android upgrade(Wireless android auto), just to find out that after we got it that google had restricted the feature to google devices. After 6 months of google claiming it was the Samsung's issue, even though no other brands worked either, they came out with a "beta" that enabled Wireless AA on other devices, no patches from samsung required.
There are so few important updates in Android these days, it's the least of my concerns.
Hello, i just got my A3 2017. I have a few questions, i hope you can answer them.
1) Android version is Oreo 8.0, security 1. december 2018. I want to know if they fixed the bootloop and crash when you use certain wifi's. And if there is any other major fault on this android version.
2) Is there any reason to downgrade to 7.0 or 6.0.1 on this phone ? I dont care about latest version, i just want the version that works best with no problems.
3) Can i use call recorder on this phone and how ? I will not root the phone (have my reasons) and i want only official roms
4) Anything i should know about this phone to get the best experience ?
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Hello, i just got my A3 2017. I have a few questions, i hope you can answer them.
1) Android version is Oreo 8.0, security 1. december 2018. I want to know if they fixed the bootloop and crash when you use certain wifi's. And if there is any other major fault on this android version.
2) Is there any reason to downgrade to 7.0 or 6.0.1 on this phone ? I dont care about latest version, i just want the version that works best with no problems.
3) Can i use call recorder on this phone and how ? I will not root the phone (have my reasons) and i want only official roms
4) Anything i should know about this phone to get the best experience ?
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To start, yes, all issues have been fixed. Now, with these requirements you're pretty much limited to oreo as you can't downgrade to a version with an older bootlader without rooting or using a custom recovery. The oldest build you can flash is the August 2018 one since it shares the same bootloader (Version 3) with the December 2018 one. Now call recording is pretty much dependent on CSC (Country Sales Code). So unless your phone came with a CSC that allows call recording, you'd have to switch to one that does have it, otherwise you'd have to root and flash a package that unlocks all CSC specific features on your existing rom. And lastly, yeah Exynos 7870 isn't that great anymore and even though samsung keeps using it in phones, the RAM and Storage of this phone really kill it, so unless you are going to do basic tasks with frequent maintenance, this phone won't really be your cup of tea.
Thank you for your replies,
Im happy that problems have been fixed and i can remain on 8.0 with no problems. Call recording is probably off but i can live with that. As for speed, there is no worries, i mostly just use it for calls and messages and occasionaly browse a webpage and use google maps. Coming from samsung s5 mini, this should be plenty fast.
I did some testing and using lab501 web browsing simulation with wifi on and screen on normal, battery lasted a whooping 1060 minutes. Coming from s5 mini which lasted about 300 minutes, u can understand how i feel. Also i tested always on screen: in 10.5 hours battery went down 3%. I am still deciding whether to use it or not. Its also a lot faster than my s5 mini, that was basicly the main reason i upgraded phone. s5 mini was otherwise perfect, but it was really slow.
I am wondering about some camera tips. I want to get the most out of camera. How to tweak it ?
Just wanted to say so far i am very happy with my phone. It is snappy enough (obviously with disabled animations and some apps), battery is great. Camera obviously could be better but thats a compromise you have to take. I wish it was a bit smaller, i have to use it with 2 hands often. Its very slippery, i use a "condom" for it but that is also slippery, which is absolutely stupid. I ordered like 6 new "condoms" of different looks and types and hope that 1 of them will make the phone as awesome to hold as s5 mini was. Remember s5 mini back cover is basicly rubber, that phone sticks to your hand ! I have some more questions.
1) how to get the most out of the camera, what settings ?
2) is it possible to remove the back cover and replace it with a rubbery back cover, like s5 mini had ? Or maybe buy some duct tape that would be less slippery and just stick it to the phone ?
Advice & expertise needed,
Few questions & hope someone can advise, & help.
Ok, I have had a Note 10+ in the box for awhile & decided to use it, as I forgot about it, actually I thought I lost it during a move a year ago. It has no updates, no security updates & still running Android 11. I took a screenshot of current update info from software updates page in settings.
I noticed during past year updates were released to 12, & T-Mobile platform for note 10+ within last 4 months. Twas hoping I would get an ota update within last 7 weeks, as that is when I turned my device on. I'm more concerned about getting security updates then a UI 12 update. I'm on the T-Mobile platform, SM-N975U1. I took the sim card from my T-Mobile S9 Note & installed it into my UNLOCKED Note 10+ & is working on TMobile without any issues. Splash screen is still splashing the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ not T-Mobile platform if that helps with anything. When I try software updates I get the popup below in SS. Was hoping I would get an OTA update. Any ideas on how to get security updates, or Update to 12 with security? Or am I going to have to flash using SmartSwitch? Or should I just root, or too soon, as I read the note 10+ may be on the list for one or even maybe two more updates? If for sure no chance for updates I would most likely root, but what are your thoughts? I want a secure device, & I don't want to pay $1500 for a $600, then a $800, then a $1000, $1500000 for a inflatisanity device when This note 10+ running max memory, is immaculate, not a scratch & runs fantastic I'd would have been using it 1.5yrs ago if I wouldn't have lost it. Please give me (us) good news as it sleeps with me under my pillow
Thanks guys.. as I'm always grateful
BliTzer
Congratulations. The N10+ is Samsung flagship's at their zenith.
I run 2 N10+'s still loaded with 9 and 10 by choice. Updates/upgrades can and do break things. This one in my hand will be 3 yo in October. It looks and runs like new.
Current OS load is over 2 yo, security is not an issue. Anything from Pie or above is relatively secure if you don't do stupid things.
I recommend you stay on 11.
I see no great benefits to scoped storage and 12 is a mess. I prefer Android 9; more functionality with trusted 3rd party apps.
blackhawk said:
Congratulations. The N10+ is Samsung flagship's at their zenith.
I run 2 N10+'s still loaded with 9 and 10 by choice. Updates/upgrades can and do break things. This one in my hand will be 3 yo in October. It looks and runs like new.
Current OS load is over 2 yo, security is not an issue. Anything from Pie or above is relatively secure if you don't do stupid things.
I recommend you stay on 11.
I see no great benefits to scoped storage and 12 is a mess. I prefer Android 9; more functionality with trusted 3rd party apps.
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Your the 2nd person to tell me slowly backup then run from anything above 11. Ok, well I'll stay as is. I run SD maid pro to clean & keep storage out of a mess, & I don't download anything, & don't open emails if not on contact list. I also have note 9 & a Samsung S8 which has a 570 PPI 4k capabilities truly amazing device. I wish my 50" TV looked that clean..I'm so done with LG TVs btw, huge problem with their Chinese WiFi cards, same TV with 6 cards changed out.
Thanks for the advice.. very grateful..
Later BliTzer
Try this settings mod, blocks adware globally and some blacklisted sites...
I had a scripted malicious jpeg I downloaded about 2 years ago. It damaged files in the download folder but not folders or the files in them when I opened it.
Spotted it right away and deleted it. Some files were repairable and the rest I deleted. No real damage. However if that got into my database on the SD card it wouldn't have been pretty.
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Try this settings mod, blocks adware globally and some blacklisted sites...
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I have been using Adguard for ad blocking and tracking on android and also widnows for a long time. It even blocks ads on youtube. The software is very good, but remember that it is Russian soft. Hell can see what data and where it can send it.