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Hello there,
I have just bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 LTE T805 and I am going to root it using the method described in
the thread below
[ROOT]Official CF-Auto-Root By Chainfire. [T-700][T-705][T-800][T805]
But I don't know which one is better for my tablet Helium or TWRP? And where can i find a tutorial on how to install either of them? If there is not a tutorial available, could you please guide me through the whole proccess?
I have read on another thread that I could use an app, by the name Flashify currently available on Play store, but i don't know how to use it and if it is safe to use it with the CF-Auto-Root method mentioned above?
(Lots of people that used this app were pretty happy after using it and without problems too, but i want your experience on the matter)
To tell you the truth :angel: I am a huge fan of TWRP and I would have been very glad if I could use it again on my new tablet also.
(I had it installed on my previous tablet an Asus Transformer Pad and it worked flawlessly).
So to sum it up
Could you please tell me what to do and how to do it in order to backup my tablet before i Root it?
Which one Helium or TWRP is safer to use?
Thank you all in advance for your time,
Heluim is to backup your apps/data. Twrp can make an image of your whole os and data so you can restore from bootloops. Installing twrp via flashify is safe with cfautoroot as cfautoroot just flashes root and reverts back to your old recovery. Just download flashify, pick install recovery, then hit twrp and pick twrp 2.8.1.0 and hit yup. Then reboot and youll have twrp. You must cfautoroot first to use flashify.
Dont use twrp 2.8.3.0 as it doesnt work.
I would perfer twrp over heluim becuase its a custom recovery. Not a fan of helium as I use titianuim backup.
I would use TWRP. Basically, root first, then install TWRP via Flashify. Version 2.8.4.0, the latest, works fine. I have used it to both back up and restore and there are no problems. It does have a tendency to enable MTP when you first run it which will throw an error when you do a backup (the error is meaningless and doesn't actually do any harm, but the red type will cause panic, so the first time you go into TWRP hit the mount button and make sure MTP is disabled).
I also use Titanium Backup for backing up and restoring apps and recommend it highly. Between TWRP and TB, I can wipe, install a ROM and restore all my apps in about an hour and the TWRP Nandroid backups mean I can always easily recover if something isn't quite right.:good:
Thank you!!! Thank you both so much, for the much needed advice, much obliged!!! :good:
I will do as you advised me and thank God you clarified everything about the differences between Helium vs. TWRP :good:
Hookmt said:
I would use TWRP. Basically, root first, then install TWRP via Flashify. Version 2.8.4.0, the latest, works fine. I have used it to both back up and restore and there are no problems. It does have a tendency to enable MTP when you first run it which will throw an error when you do a backup (the error is meaningless and doesn't actually do any harm, but the red type will cause panic, so the first time you go into TWRP hit the mount button and make sure MTP is disabled).
I also use Titanium Backup for backing up and restoring apps and recommend it highly. Between TWRP and TB, I can wipe, install a ROM and restore all my apps in about an hour and the TWRP Nandroid backups mean I can always easily recover if something isn't quite right.:good:
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I usually just restore the data partition after installing a new rom instead of using TB then just wipe caches. . I only use TB for backing up and restoring certain apps or data. Doesnt take me anywhere near an hour, using either method.
ashyx said:
I usually just restore the data partition after installing a new rom instead of using TB then just wipe caches. . I only use TB for backing up and restoring certain apps or data. Doesnt take me anywhere near an hour, using either method.
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Nice idea, thanks. In the case of a clean flash, however, which is the only time I'm using TB to restore, I often want to restore only some apps and use things for a while and not everything I was experimenting with before.
Since rooted phones can't take OTA's, we have special considerations before updating. (flash/wipe/then recover ... ). Google restores a lot but I've discovered not many system or app settings. TWRP makes full backups, but if your data is full of pics and videos there's not enough available space for backups.
I have Titanium Backup Pro but I'm not sure 'when' to use it for recovery. Individual app restores sure, but what about a complete restore? After a flash and boot, should I bypass the Google setups, install TiB, and restore with that? Will that give me a 100% restored device (all system and app settings)?
Will this work? Is there a better strategy? Or is it impossible to get 100% recovery.
Insight/ Advice are appreciated.
Can't systemless root take OTAs?
Keithn said:
Can't systemless root take OTAs?
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From my limited understanding ... no! Any boot, recovery, or system mods cause OTAs to fail when trying to apply. Getting AP working is a different issue.
since i'm not comfortable using command line programs i find myself using NRT when an update is due. in the end it's just a graphical frontend with some instructions but it makes me feel more secure.
enough rambling, your question is answered in one of the FAQs in wugs homepage:
http://www.wugfresh.com/faqs/how-to-update-ota-not-working/ said:
If you use Titanium Backup it is recommended to only backup user apps + data (not system apps), because when you update to the new android version, the system apps are most likely updated, so restoring an old system app backup will overwrite your new system app with the legacy version; and if you were just to restore the data, it may be incompatible with the new version of the system app. There are some exceptions to this rule; as in – you might be able to get away with restoring some system data, however if you chose to go this route then make sure you just restore the data (not the app), you do so selectively (as in – one system app at a time), and you know how to delete that app data if it doesn’t work properly (Settings > Apps > All > navigate to the particular app > clear data > reboot your device.)
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following that link, i mostly find my self making complete backups with TiBa and then following option #1 for smaller updates and #2 for bigger ones.
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following that link, i mostly find my self making complete backups with TiBa and then following option #1 for smaller updates and #2 for bigger ones.
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Thanks for the valuable info. It appears a full restore (all system settings) is impossible after an upgrade/update. Maybe restoring app data with a TiBackup is possible, but I'm still confused about the 'when' to do this - after the Google restore? Bypass the Google restore?
I recently moved away from Apple where their update/upgrade restore was almost 100%. Maybe some day Google will follow and this will be a moot point.
Mesmurized said:
Thanks for the valuable info. It appears a full restore (all system settings) is impossible after an upgrade/update. Maybe restoring app data with a TiBackup is possible, but I'm still confused about the 'when' to do this - after the Google restore? Bypass the Google restore?
I recently moved away from Apple where their update/upgrade restore was almost 100%. Maybe some day Google will follow and this will be a moot point.
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google is certainly impoving on that part, it's only a matter of time until this kind of backup is fully implemented.
if you took a look at the link, you may have realised that at least with option 1 you would not have to go through the setup/restore process again.
in my case, i usually go for the restore option given, as it restores some of the system settings in a compatible way, which TiBa can not as already said.
another option, to carry over all of your settings to the update is to:
make a full backup with TiBa
unroot/reflash your current build (if you are using NRT choose 'no wipe mode' similar to the description in the FAQ. this way you don't have to restore anything and can ignore the next step.)
restore your full backup without fear of compatibility issues(never mind, can't restore system settings without root. stupid me.)
take OTA or trigger the update otherwise
in this case it would of course be pretty much useless to restore the google backup.
Broken303 said:
google is certainly impoving on that part, it's only a matter of time until this kind of backup is fully implemented.
if you took a look at the link, you may have realised that at least with option 1 you would not have to go through the setup/restore process again.
in my case, i usually go for the restore option given, as it restores some of the system settings in a compatible way, which TiBa can not as already said.
another option, to carry over all of your settings to the update is to:
make a full backup with TiBa
unroot/reflash your current build (if you are using NRT choose 'no wipe mode' similar to the description in the FAQ. this way you don't have to restore anything and can ignore the next step.)
restore your full backup without fear of compatibility issues(never mind, can't restore system settings without root. stupid me.)
take OTA or trigger the update otherwise
in this case it would of course be pretty much useless to restore the google backup
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I checked out Option #1 and the rest of NRT for that matter. In fact I have NRT installed. What is does mostly depends upon stock and I have Pure Nexus. In addition, it's a toolkit. Toolkits isolate users from an "understanding" of the process. However, it's the understanding that is necessary to have a fully integrated backup/restore process and to respond to issues/problems that may arise. Bottom line, I don't use toolkits.
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I checked out Option #1 and the rest of NRT for that matter. In fact I have NRT installed. What is does mostly depends upon stock and I have Pure Nexus. In addition, it's a toolkit. Toolkits isolate users from an "understanding" of the process. However, it's the understanding that is necessary to have a fully integrated backup/restore process and to respond to issues/problems that may arise. Bottom line, I don't use toolkits.
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ok then, i thought your switch to android was very recent and therefore you had very little experience. indeed toolkits are in the way of a learning curve when it comes to android.
to my knowledge the closest thing you can get to a full backup/restore process for manual updates is to use the google backup to restore the system settings and use TiBa to restore your own (user)apps and data (possibly overwriting the apps google may have tried to restore/-install). with pure nexus afaik being very close to stock using the tag to not wipe user data should in theory still work without causing problems.
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ok then, i thought your switch to android was very recent and therefore you had very little experience. indeed toolkits are in the way of a learning curve when it comes to android.
to my knowledge the closest thing you can get to a full backup/restore process for manual updates is to use the google backup to restore the system settings and use TiBa to restore your own (user)apps and data (possibly overwriting the apps google may have tried to restore/-install). with pure nexus afaik being very close to stock using the tag to not wipe user data should in theory still work without causing problems.
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If I understand correctly, do you recommend allowing Google to restore everything it wants, then running TiB restore after that?
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If I understand correctly, do you recommend allowing Google to restore everything it wants, then running TiB restore after that?
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yes, basically. i would still be cautious when it comes to sms/mms and make a copy of every important file on the sdcard aswell.
the only problem i ever encountered this way was with whatsapp, which i had to reinstall and then manually move over its folder on the sd card from the previous installation.
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yes, basically. i would still be cautious when it comes to sms/mms and make a copy of every important file on the sdcard aswell.
the only problem i ever encountered this way was with whatsapp, which i had to reinstall and then manually move over its folder on the sd card from the previous installation.
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I have a separate app for call logs and SMS/text messages. I'll use it!
I always have everything on /sdcard backed up .... It's just those darn system/app settings that are missing. Oh well, thanks for your help. Think I've come a little closer to a full 100% restore.
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Since rooted phones can't take OTA's, we have special considerations before updating. (flash/wipe/then recover ... ). Google restores a lot but I've discovered not many system or app settings. TWRP makes full backups, but if your data is full of pics and videos there's not enough available space for backups.
I have Titanium Backup Pro but I'm not sure 'when' to use it for recovery. Individual app restores sure, but what about a complete restore? After a flash and boot, should I bypass the Google setups, install TiB, and restore with that? Will that give me a 100% restored device (all system and app settings)?
Will this work? Is there a better strategy? Or is it impossible to get 100% recovery.
Insight/ Advice are appreciated.
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Just follow #10 from Heisenberg's rooting guide & your apps/data stay intact.
ING3NIEUR said:
Just follow #10 from Heisenberg's rooting guide & your apps/data stay intact.
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That's the easy part! Restoring app settings and all of system settings is the hard part
Mesmurized said:
That's the easy part! Restoring app settings and all of system settings is the hard part
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As long as you follow the guide and don't wipe your phone, then there's no need to restore your apps/settings. They should still be there on your phone. The only thing you have to restore is TWRP/root.
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... The only thing you have to restore is TWRP/root.
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If a flash update is performed, do you still restore TWRP/root? I would think not as it would overwrite the newly flashed update and likely make the system unstable in the least or unbootable at the worst!
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If a flash update is performed, do you still restore TWRP/root? I would think not as it would overwrite the newly flashed update and likely make the system unstable in the least or unbootable at the worst!
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If you are rooted, your phone will not take an OTA update. So you have two options....flash the new factory image or wait for somebody to upload a flashable update zip. The easiest way is to just download and flash the new factory image. If you follow the guide, you are also flashing stock recovery. So, you have to re-flash TWRP and root. Your data/apps stay intact.
ING3NIEUR said:
If you are rooted, your phone will not take an OTA update. So you have two options....flash the new factory image or wait for somebody to upload a flashable update zip. The easiest way is to just download and flash the new factory image. If you follow the guide, you are also flashing stock recovery. So, you have to re-flash TWRP and root. Your data/apps stay intact.
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Thanks for you input, but after all this, at the least many system settings are lost even after Google does it's full restore. I know, I've done it many times. I'm looking for a process/strategy that restores system settings (and all data settings) after an upgrade.
Mesmurized said:
Thanks for you input, but after all this, at the least many system settings are lost even after Google does it's full restore. I know, I've done it many times. I'm looking for a process/strategy that restores system settings (and all data settings) after an upgrade.
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Im very confused by this whole thread you have unlocked bootloader rooted phone running twrp and wondering how to stay up to date with latest google factory images?
You dont have to backup your phone to install the factory images and you can flash the new one over the current one. You can simply download the latest factory image from google and manually flash the files from fastboot or use the flashall.bat. just make sure to edit the flash allscript so it doesn't flash userdata or recovery as the flashing of userdata will delete your user data)
Flash the following from the factory image. Dont flash recovery or userdata (recovery will over write twrp and userdata will wipe your data partition.
Boot.img
Cache.img
System.img
Vendor.img
Radio.img
Then boot into recovery and reinstall su.
The_Automator said:
Im very confused by this whole thread you have unlocked bootloader rooted phone running twrp and wondering how to stay up to date with latest google factory images? ...
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No. Please re-read post #1.
I want to restore all system and app settings AFTER a flash update. It is possible to retain many (most) app settings if the internal storage is not wiped, but this does not apply to system settings.
Mesmurized said:
No. Please re-read post #1.
I want to restore all system and app settings AFTER a flash update. It is possible to retain many (most) app settings if the internal storage is not wiped, but this does not apply to system settings.
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Updates modify the system partition of the phone i have found that using titanium backup to restore system apps has always caused issues for me as the files have been modified by the update and you are then overwriting the update with settings from a previous version this can make settings copied incorrectly or cause issues with new features that have been implemented to the system partition. Personally I think it could create more issues than it solves is there a specific setting or thing you are trying to preserve?
Quite simple. I don't know what Backup/Restore through TWRP actually does, if it backs up the whole phone or if it just backs up your apps, or if you can have it do either.
My Note 4 is rooted and I really hate changing ROMs just because I end up having to re-install my apps. It's a PITA.
Is there really an easier, quicker way of doing things when I switch ROMs? Can I backup/restore my apps with TWRP? If not, then what about with Titanium Backup Pro? I have that as well. I've been manually restoring my apps each time I change ROMs.
TWRP makes copies of the entirety of the selected backup partitions (Whole Phone), using Titanium backup onto your SD card would probably be the best option for backing up apps.
The correct way is you should do both. You only need to do twrp backup once to have a full image of your phone. This is very helpful if your new rom crashed. You just need to restore the twrp image and you will have your phone back exactly the same setup before the crash. Second, you also need a full backup of all your apps with Titanium Backup, this helps you to restore all the apps back to the new rom. Make a note here, if you flash a new OS version, like 5.1 lollipop to 6.0 MM, do not restore app data, instead, just restore the apps only. Apps force closed if you restore app data.
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JOSHSKORN said:
Quite simple. I don't know what Backup/Restore through TWRP actually does, if it backs up the whole phone or if it just backs up your apps, or if you can have it do either.
My Note 4 is rooted and I really hate changing ROMs just because I end up having to re-install my apps. It's a PITA.
Is there really an easier, quicker way of doing things when I switch ROMs? Can I backup/restore my apps with TWRP? If not, then what about with Titanium Backup Pro? I have that as well. I've been manually restoring my apps each time I change ROMs.
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Titanium backup has a setting that allows you to make TWRP flashable zips . It allows you to do the operation as a batch as well so you could make a single zip with all the apps you want restore or you could do them individually or in specific groups. Since your rom selection is based upon system Img. This should work unless you went from a Touchwiz to Aosp base.
Hi,
I recently tried a custom rom on my old phone and it worked pretty well. I liked the OS and now want to also do that on my current phone. But i do still have a few questions i hope you can help me with.
- Can i make a full backup of my phone (with app data) to my PC or maybe to my old phone? I am currently not rooted and tried helium backup but saw that sadly not all apps allow a backup.
- I know about titanium backup. Is there some way (if the above cant be done) i can root my phone without wiping the phone? So i can then use titanium backup to make a proper backup with data, then install the custom rom and after restore the apps+data.
In short: I hope i can somehow make a full backup with app data so i can install the custom rom and restore my app data again.
Looking forward to your replies.
Thanks in advance.
Nothing? No one ? =(
To root you need to unlock the bootloader, which wipes all user data. So you can't use root to backup your data. This is why I unlock the bootloader immediately after getting a phone.
You can try an adb backup though.
razr96 said:
To root you need to unlock the bootloader, which wipes all user data. So you can't use root to backup your data. This is why I unlock the bootloader immediately after getting a phone.
You can try an adb backup though.
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Thank you for your reply and thx for the tip. Ill be doing that too from now on when i get a phone.
As long as i can make a full backup with abd (with app data), Im fine with wiping to root it. But just wanted to make sure i can get app data back after the root process.
Do you happen to have a link to a proper backup using abd guide?
Thanks
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sm00th4f3 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-t3602583
You might wanna read this and try it
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/adb-fastboot-commands-bootloader-kernel-t3597181
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Well with a few side searches i was able to open the cmd (admin), do a adb devices (which found a device) and then run the app + data command.
('adb backup -apk -shared -all -system -f C:\backup.ab')
I saw the screen on my phone to start it, which i did but it stays on Shared Storage (where before this mentioned the apk's that were being backed up). This is taking pretty long (as in hours). Is this normal or did something went wrong and is it stuck on that part?
Edit (Update): I stopped the whole thing and tried again. Now it finished in about 10 - 15 min. I did get a message "backup finished". However in the folder i gave up, there is nothing to see. folder is still empty
Edit2 (update): Found the backup.ab file. Apparently it was in a different folder i thought it would be. So if i then also make a copy of the internal storage and do this command, i should be good right? After doing that, unlock and root, i can use the 'adb restore C:\backup.ab' and have all apps + app data back as it was before the unlock/root ?
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sm00th4f3 said:
In a sense. Yes, but you might wanna read some threads about that first.. Otherwise. No one would wanna go back after unlocking his phone. Since restoring a backup from a locked phone on an unlocked phone can cause some issues.
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I'm not really sure what you mean though.
If i unlock my phone with my code and then make the backup with adb and just in case, a copy of my internal storage, can't i use restore on the unlocked/rooted phone to have the apps + their data back and use them again ?
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sm00th4f3 said:
No you can't. It will brick your device. The backup can only be used when your phone is still locked. So it is basically not needed at all.
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So you are saying that there is no possibility to backup my apps+data, unlock/root/custom rom, and then restore my apps+data at all?
That was some what the question of my first post.
So its either, fully wipe with everything lost, then root etc. etc. or just keep it the way i have it now?
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sm00th4f3 said:
The normal procedure is as follows:
After an unlock.- your data always gets formatted. So a backup is totally wasted time.
The backup isn't wasted time - if it is done after unlocking your phone, while it still has stock rom.
In case flashing goes wrong, make the backup while not having flashed twro etc at all.
You don't have to wipe anything if you just want root, since the phone will reset-wipe your data on its very own.
Just unlock it, let it reboot, Flash twrp, install root zip file. Reboot
In case of flashing a custom rom. Flash twrp, boot to twrp. Use the Reboot menu and reboot again into recovery
Reboot->Recovery (in twrp menu).
Then Wipe-> Factory Reset
Wipe-> Advanced Wipe-> Wipe System partition only
Wipe-> Advanced wipe-> select Data partition-> Change file system to ext4
Reboot Menu in TWRP->Recovery
Wipe Dalvik and Cache
Flash Rom
Flash Gapps if not stated otherwise in Instructions of Rom Thread
Flash Magisk or SUperSu , depends if you want root or not. If you don'T want encryption on older Roms, flash one of the two.
Encryption will later on be optional through Phone Security Options.
Wipe dalvik and cache.
Reboot.
Wait a bit.
Setup phone, done.
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Yes but as you mentioned, unlocking means a full wipe. And i cant restore apps + their data from a stock phone backup to an unlocked phone as it can cause issues.
In my very first post i asked if i could make a backup of the apps + their data to restore them after unlocking/rooting/custom rom or whatever. Simple answer then is no.
So i either have to just wipe my phone and basically start all over, only unlock/root etc etc first.
Or just keep my phone stock like how it is now and just do nothing and wait until i get a new phone (which will be in a long time still)
CHANGED: You must flash the dm-verity.zip on ROM install to use the backup/restore feature of TWRP. It won't work if /data is encrypted. I jumped the gun when making this thread.
EDIT2: I had also flashed dm-verity on install so /data wasn't encrypted.
Which Dm Verity did you use which version??
Does this mean even today with the latest versions of twrp and magisk you cant restore the backups made of an encrypted phone? I just got a new Moto G7 Power and got it setup with those two things and made a backup - havnt tried restoring yet. Does your solution of flashing the dm-verify.zip thing mean the phone will be unencryped then? Because I cant have that, I rather not have backups. What about the old "adb backup" type command line does that still work?
I've had my phone since the day they were available at metro and I can't and don't even try to backup or restore anything anymore. On roms it always has broken lockscreen where you cannot secure phone. Because of this I stay encrypted and setup my **** all over again when I change roms.
flash713 said:
I've had my phone since the day they were available at metro and I can't and don't even try to backup or restore anything anymore. On roms it always has broken lockscreen where you cannot secure phone. Because of this I stay encrypted and setup my **** all over again when I change roms.
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I see, too bad it's a nice function to backup/restore I guess I'll just backup my important data individually and try not to mess up my Rom.
TaZeR369 said:
I see, too bad it's a nice function to backup/restore I guess I'll just backup my important data individually and try not to mess up my Rom.
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Check this out. I haven't used it yet but I'm about to try it. Join «Migrate - Custom ROM Migration Tool» on Telegram: https://t.me/migrateApp
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-migrate-custom-rom-migration-tool-t3862763
There's a new add-on for it on telegram link
TaZeR369 said:
I see, too bad it's a nice function to backup/restore I guess I'll just backup my important data individually and try not to mess up my Rom.
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Me too. I haven't a bit of luck with encrypted stock restores. I was told it would work if you don't restore /data, but when I made a backup without /data, it failed to restore. I HAVE been able to restore unencrypted customs though. I only backed up system, data, and boot when I succeeded. It's been a while. I think you have to wait a long time for the 1st boot after the restore, as if it were rebuilding ART or something. Haven't had any luck stopping stock from encrypting either. I hate not messing up my ROM. Boring.....
Perhaps I am missing a critical detail, but I just successfully restored my latest LOS(lineage-17.1-20200524-UNOFFICIAL-ocean) & older CRD(crDroidAndroid-10.0-20200405-ocean-v6.4) backups(*) using TWRP(twrp-installer-3.3.1-2-ocean).
SELinux is NOT enforced, but "Trust"(lulz) claims the phone is encrypted.
My methodology requires installing the same base f/w I used when originally installing the ROM(former newest RETAIL for CRD & newest RETUS for LOS), root, flash copy partitions zip, flash>factory reset>1st boot of the original ROM zip, enable debug, install TWRP, boot into TWRP, wipe all & restore backup(*).
I just restored successfully 2x's on my xt1955-5.
I loaded LOS 10 & 3rds from scratch, made all my settings tweaks & made Titanium b/u(JIC), made TWRP b/u(*) then restored my previous CRD daily install using steps above. Then I repeated the above steps(again) to go back to my new, fresh LOS. It is annoying to have to reload f/w, et al, but def easier than reloading & retweaking the OS & all 3rds from scratch... Titanium fails to restore most settings + other nits.
To restore a backup(*) of a ROM I am currently running, I just boot to TWRP, wipe all & restore.
*: To make the original TWRP backup, I will run it & it will fail. I open the log file and find the last file/folder that "error"ed, delete the offender & re-run backup(boot, data & system). It works for me, no DM-verity flash required.
As always, YMMV.
Edit: PS: The problems seem to be stemming from beta testing the new "Trust"(lulz) framework, on all 10 ROMs(?). Would be nice to get that ironed out. A new Recovery wouldn't hurt, either. AFAIK, these problems exist in OFR, too.
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Perhaps I am missing a critical detail, but I just successfully restored my latest LOS(lineage-17.1-20200524-UNOFFICIAL-ocean) & older CRD(crDroidAndroid-10.0-20200405-ocean-v6.4) backups(*) using TWRP(twrp-installer-3.3.1-2-ocean).
SELinux is NOT enforced, but "Trust"(lulz) claims the phone is encrypted.
My methodology requires installing the same base f/w I used when originally installing the ROM(former newest RETAIL for CRD & newest RETUS for LOS), root, flash copy partitions zip, flash>factory reset>1st boot of the original ROM zip, enable debug, install TWRP, boot into TWRP, wipe all & restore backup(*).
I just restored successfully 2x's on my xt1955-5.
I loaded LOS 10 & 3rds from scratch, made all my settings tweaks & made Titanium b/u(JIC), made TWRP b/u(*) then restored my previous CRD daily install using steps above. Then I repeated the above steps(again) to go back to my new, fresh LOS. It is annoying to have to reload f/w, et al, but def easier than reloading & retweaking the OS & all 3rds from scratch... Titanium fails to restore most settings + other nits.
To restore a backup(*) of a ROM I am currently running, I just boot to TWRP, wipe all & restore.
*: To make the original TWRP backup, I will run it & it will fail. I open the log file and find the last file/folder that "error"ed, delete the offender & re-run backup(boot, data & system). It works for me, no DM-verity flash required.
As always, YMMV.
Edit: PS: The problems seem to be stemming from beta testing the new "Trust"(lulz) framework, on all 10 ROMs(?). Would be nice to get that ironed out. A new Recovery wouldn't hurt, either. AFAIK, these problems exist in OFR, too.
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Have u tried the new 3.5 twrp
Lol...and here it is a couple years later and I'm still searching whether a force-encrypted twrp backup of stock has been figured out how to restore...Pulled up my own thread. Lol.
i miss being able to backup android properly. it made me behave completely differently with my phone. it was a toy instead of just some tool. i'd just install every single rom, kernel modem operating system i could find or i'd just plagiarize the hell out of you guys for sh*ts and giggles and man i loved android so much back then but now its my cell phone. :\ i just liked the colorful language, i wasn't signing anybody else's code.
it's such a tedious thing now, even compared to before and i suppose that's their intention perhaps.